Name: "プロジェクト2025はフロリダ2020" - マクスウェル・フロスト下院議員、デサンティス、ICE拘束、デュー・プロセスについて ("Project 2025 Is Florida 2020" - Rep. Maxwell Frost On DeSantis, ICE Detentions And Due Process)
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Hey everybody, welcome back. Ladies and gentlemen, my next guest this evening is a congressman who represents Florida's 10th district. Please welcome back to The Late Show, Representative

皆さん、お帰りなさい。皆さん、今晩のゲストはフロリダ州第10選挙区を代表する下院議員です。レイト・ショーにお戻りください下院議員

Good to see you again. Yeah, good to be here.

また会えて嬉しいよ。ああ、ここで会えて嬉しいよ。

It's been a bit. Last time you were here, you'd been in office for nine months or something along those lines. It's been two and a half years now. Compare and contrast your experience from the first year to now in the middle of your third year, and please support your answer with specific examples.

ちょっと久しぶりだね。前回ここにいらっしゃったときは、就任して9カ月とかそんな感じでしたよね。もう2年半になります。1年目と3年目の途中の今を比較対照し、具体例を挙げてお答えください。

Look, obviously, we're in just so much chaos right now in this country. And when I think back to when I first got into Congress, I felt like we were doing so much good work with the administration. It was a different administration, by the way.

今、この国は大混乱に陥っている。そして、私が議員になったばかりの頃を思い出すと、政権とはとても良い仕事をしていると感じていた。ちなみに別の政権だった。

Different Congress. But I felt like, you know, this fight against far-right neo-fascism, for me at least, was mainly taking stage in my home in Florida, fighting against Ron DeSantis and the extremism there. And something I always told people is that Project 2025 is actually

違う議会だ。しかし、極右のネオ・ファシズムとの戦いは、少なくとも私にとっては、主に私の故郷であるフロリダの舞台で、ロン・デサンティスやそこでの過激主義との戦いのようなものだと感じていました。そして、私がいつも人々に話しているのは、プロジェクト2025は実は

Florida 2022, Florida 2020. And the stuff that's going on around the country right now, we've actually been dealing with in the South for a long time, especially my state of Florida.

フロリダ2022、フロリダ2020。今、全米で起こっていることは、実は南部、特に私の住むフロリダ州で長い間対処してきたことだ。

So the difference is, it's like the struggle in my state has kind of been just spread throughout the nation. And honestly, that day after Election Day, I had a hard time getting up, probably like a lot of other people, and I wasn't automatically feeling hope. You know, we think of hope as like a feeling. But I think about something I learned, which is like, you know, long marriages, something people always say is that love isn't always a feeling. A lot of times it's a choice that you make actively. And I just thought, well, hope is the same way. I'm not always going to feel it when I wake up in the morning. And to be honest, like, I don't always feel it every morning, but I'm actively going to choose it. So we're definitely in a different time.

その違いは、私の州での闘いが、全米に広がっているということだ。正直なところ、選挙の日の翌日、私はなかなか起き上がれず、おそらく他の多くの人たちと同じように、自動的に希望を感じることはできなかった。私たちは希望というものを感情のように考えている。でも、私が学んだことを考えると、それは、長い結婚生活の中で、人々がいつも言うことなんだけど、愛は必ずしも感情とは限らないということなんだ。多くの場合、それは積極的に選択するものなんだ。希望も同じだと思ったんだ。朝起きたとき、いつもそれを感じられるとは限らない。正直な

Well, a lot of people, a lot, a lot of people chose to be hopeful last week. Five million people plus turned out for the No Kings rally, which was really, it was an act of hope, it was hopeful to see. Thousands of people, thousands of people turned out in your district in central

さて、先週は多くの人々が、多くの人々が、希望を持つことを選んだ。500万人以上の人々がノー・キングスの集会に集まった。何千人という人々が、何千人という人々が、あなたの選挙区である中部に集まった。

Florida on the heels of the president sending in both National Guard, nationalized Army,

フロリダ州は、大統領が州兵と国軍を派遣した、

National Guard, so Army members into Los Angeles and Marines, and they're using and violating posse comitatus, arresting people. And you have, that was all in response to ICE doing raids around Los Angeles, somewhat indiscriminately, and even going into courts where people are trying to do the right thing and pulling them out and trying to get them out of the country without due process. You, you have described that as taxpayer funded, uh, kidnapping operation.

州兵、つまり陸軍の隊員や海兵隊がロサンゼルスにやってきて、現行犯逮捕をしている。これは、ロサンゼルス周辺を無差別に家宅捜索し、正しいことを行おうとしている人たちの裁判にまで踏み込んで、正当な手続きなしに彼らを国外に連れ出そうとしている移民局に対抗したものです。あなたはそれを、税金で賄われる誘拐作戦だと言いましたね。

Well, because Donald Trump ran on this mass deportation thing, but the thing everyone needs to realize is deportation is a process. It's a legal process. Oftentimes it can take weeks if not months up to a year, depending on the case. And what's going on right now is actually not mass deportation even because people aren't being given due process. There is no legal process for people. We have ICE, ICE federal agents pulling up, terrorizing our communities, hopping out of unmarked vans, stealing and yes, kidnapping people, not giving them their day in court. And yes, human trafficking them to other nations, other countries around the entire world. And I want to be very, I like to be very clear about what's going on right now. So people understand that, that what is going on, I believe is outside of the bounds of the law. Due process is something that applies to every person in this country, regardless of your status. And this is from the party that likes to talk a lot about American exceptionalism, but they want to rip away the few things that make our country actually exceptional. And part of that is the fact that our rights are for everybody.

ドナルド・トランプは集団強制送還を掲げていたが、強制送還はプロセスであることを誰もが理解する必要がある。法的なプロセスだ。ケースによっては、数カ月どころか数週間から1年かかることもある。そして今起こっていることは、実際には集団強制送還ではないのです。合法的な手続きがないのです。ICEの連邦捜査官がやってきて、地域社会を恐怖に陥れ、覆面パトカーから飛び出し、人々を盗み、誘拐し、裁判の機会も与えない。そして、彼らを人身売買して、他の国、世界中の他の国々に送り出しているのです。私は、今何が起きているのかについて

And one of the things, one of the things that I see it that alarms me most and, and it does feel like kidnapping because as you said, unmarked windowless vans will show up. Men will get out wearing masks, balaclavas or masks, no identifying patches, do not identify themselves. They don't have badges. They don't show ID. They just grab people and put them in the van. I mean, in a state like Florida that has a stand your ground law and people can open carry, it's dangerous for those officers. Yeah. It's not just for the people because you know, why wouldn't you think that you were being attacked? No, it's, it's dangerous for everyone. It's completely chaotic. And my other thing is if you are proud of what you're doing, why do you have to wear a mask to do it? If you are, if you're operating within the bounds of the law, you shouldn't have to cover your face. And that's the problem with ice and with the administration right now is this whole thing is happening in the shadows. I actually just introduced the bill called the sue them act. Um, it sounds like sue them because we want people to sue them. Um, and what it does is it mandates where if someone is taken by ice and they're put in a detainment facility or they're put in a jail under what's called an ice detainer, that they are required to post publicly why that person is there, where they're at and all the information associated with the case.

そして、私が最も警戒していることのひとつは、あなたがおっしゃったように、無名の窓のないバンが現れることです。男たちはマスクや目出し帽、あるいはマスクをつけて出てくる。バッジもない。IDも見せない。ただ人を捕まえてバンに乗せるだけだ。つまり、フロリダのようなスタンド・ユア・グラウンド法があり、人々が銃を携帯できる州では、警官たちにとって危険なことなのです。自分が襲われるとは思わないでしょう？いや、誰にとっても危険なんだ。完全に混沌としている。そしてもうひとつは、もしあなたが自分のしていることに誇りを持ってい

Cause here's the problem is that I'm meeting so many families in my district and across the country that one day their husband goes missing and they just have no idea where their loved ones are at. And we have people going to hospitals. We have people calling morgues asking, is my loved one there? That's what this country has devolved to right now because of this president and because of this whole operation that is completely BS and lied to people. And he went around the country telling people that you can't afford your rent because of immigrants, that you can't send your child to school, you can't afford food because of trans people. No, it's because of mega billionaires like Donald Trump and corporations that have been rigging the system for so long. And this blame game is so normal in this. It's from the textbook of authoritarians and right-wing neo-fascists. And we have to call it out because he's trying to divide our country when really we have a lot more in common.

というのも、私の選挙区や全国で、ある日突然、夫が行方不明になり、愛する人がどこにいるのか見当もつかないという家族にたくさん会っているからです。病院に行く人もいる。私の愛する人はそこにいますか？それが今、この国が陥っていることなのです。この大統領のせいで、そしてこの作戦のせいで、人々は完全に嘘で固められたのです。そして彼は、移民のせいで家賃が払えない、トランスジェンダーのせいで子供を学校に通わせられない、食料を買えない、と人々に言って回った。そうではなく、ドナルド・トランプのようなメガ・ビリオネアと、長い間

We're going to take a quick break, but we're right back with more representative Maxwell-Crossley.

少し休憩を挟みますが、マックスウェル・クロスリー代表の続報をお届けします。

"プロジェクト2025はフロリダ2020" - マクスウェル・フロスト下院議員、デサンティス、ICE拘束、デュー・プロセスについて ("Project 2025 Is Florida 2020" - Rep. Maxwell Frost On DeSantis, ICE Detentions And Due Process)