What does that bode for him going into the fall November against President Trump?

The Biden campaign has every right to say what they have done tonight and what they did last Tuesday gives them confidence.

Let's also be careful.

We're in the primary campaign and things are often different.

One of the arguments that Senator Sanders made about Secretary Clinton four years ago Senator Sanders making about the Biden campaign now Hillary Clinton made it about Barack Obama is when a Democratic candidate is winning all these states in the South.

Well, guess what.

South Carolina is not gonna be a battleground state in the general election.

If it is, it's game over right.

We don't expect Alabama or Mississippi or Arkansas to be battlegrounds.

Those will be Trump's states in the general election.

But But to the Biden campaign's point, let's just take case in point.

Michigan.

This was the state.

Remember?

Sanders wanted narrowly last time when he did.

So when Bernie Sanders won this state four years ago, one of the things we probably didn't spend enough attention on is understanding the weakness.

Hillary Clinton won Macomb County, but just barely.

It was a big warning flashing sign that Hillary Clinton had problems with blue collar workers in the industrial Midwest.

How did Trump become president?

Trump became president by flipping by flipping Michigan number one just 10,000 votes.

But a win is a win flip.

Michigan flipped Wisconsin 22,000 just shy of 23,000 votes and flipped Pennsylvania by 44,000 votes.

That's why Donald Trump is president.

United States.

So what Joe Biden wants to argue is I was born in Scranton.

I just won the Michigan primary.

He won Minnesota Trump.

Hillary Clinton won that, but just barely.

And Wisconsin is on the will get to Wisconsin later in the campaign.

So if you look at 2020 what Joe Biden wants to say is, I'm competitive.

I proved I'm competitive and these air still to come as we go forward.

It's a perfectly rational argument to make, especially if you look at the suburbs.

One of the things that's been really interesting as we look Texas was a surprise last week.

Let me pop this out here and show you Texas was a surprise last week, right right here in the Dallas area, one of those congressional seats that flipped a Republican health seat in 2016 that became a Democrat health seat in 2018.

There's another one right here.

Just outside of Oklahoma City was a Republican health seat became a Democratic seat in 2018.

Joe Biden is winning in almost all of those districts.

California would be the one exception where you see Senator Sanders doing some of that.

But in places that flipped from red to blue helped make Nancy Pelosi speaker.

They are in the suburbs there, in the suburbs like northern Virginia.

There's a seat right here that flipped.

Look at all that Biden blew.

This was a Republican House seat a few years ago.

It's a Democratic seat now, so Joe Biden's campaign can make the case that in the suburbs African American turnout, they're proving that they have a coalition that shapes up well for a general election.

They could make that argument wolf.

It does not make the case that it's a guarantee, but against Senator Sanders, especially if Sanders argues on the blue collar guy If you look at the state of Michigan tonight, Biden has those bragging rights.

Does it necessarily carry overto?

November absolutely not.

Doesn't give his campaign some steam when you look at the cities and the suburbs and the blue collar areas.

Absolutely good point indeed.

David Chalian Way.

Take a look and let's do a delegate track right now as we take a look at the delegate so far tonight, let's start off with Michigan.

Yeah, 125 delegates at stake.

Take a look at what we've been able to allocate Already.

34 delegates for Joe Biden, 19 delegates in Michigan for Bernie Sanders.

What you see there is a 15 net delegate lead so far out of Michigan for Joe Biden.

So taking the lead.

The ad.

Now he's adding a 15 that delegate lead.

We still have 72 delegates toe allocate out of Michigan.

In Missouri, we've allocated more than half the delegates.

Already 68 delegates at stake.

26 of them went to Joe Biden.

12 of them went to Bernie Sanders.

There you have a 14 delegate lead for Joe Biden again as a net lead, so he's just adding and adding to his already existing lead.

We still have 30 delegates to assign in desert.

So delegates to date right now, given all the contest that have happened so far, all the contest.

You need 1991 delegates to win the nomination.

Look at this wolf.

Joe Biden has 713 delegates to date.

Bernie Sanders has 589.

This is significantly.

He has.

Joe Biden has more than 100 delegate lead.

Now that is 120 224 delegate lead that that Joe Biden has over Bernie Sanders.

He's building such a substantial delegate lead this evening that as it continues along this pace, it is going to be extraordinarily difficult for Bernie Sanders to catch up in the delegate race.

A very important point indeed.

Jake and Emma.

It looks like it's going to be incredibly difficult based on the lead that Biden has right now, with the all important delegate count for Bernie Sanders to come back and the primaries in a week or more.

States are four states that Bernie Sanders did not win in 2016.

If you want to look at what those are.

And while I do that, let me just also say that, um, the Sanders campaign is obviously could have ah, hard decision to make.

I don't think they're gonna drop out anytime in the immediate future.

And certainly, it's certainly there's ah debate on Sunday, uh, then and I think that it will be something that the Sanders team wants to do is have the head to head debate.

The just to major candidates.

Tulsi Gabbert still running but has not met the threshold for the debate.

And I think Sanders is potentially a stronger debater on, and I think that they will make a least one last attempt to try to convince Democratic voters that he would be a stronger nominee against Donald Trump.

Because to be completely frank, I'm getting real 2004 vibes tonight, which is?

Democrats want to defeat an incumbent Republican so badly.

Democratic voters.

I mean that they decide which one is electable, and they decide which one is electable and they decide.

Okay, it's John Kerry, or, in this case, it's Joe Biden.

There's a huge coalescing around that person.

They want to end the primary process as soon as possible on and then basically they coronate this person.

Now what did we learn in the last few weeks?

Mark McKinnon, former George W.

Bush advisor, told me that actually, they feared Howard Dean more because Howard Dean, even though he was less predictable, there was a starker difference between Howard Dean and George W.

Bush.

And he was drawing much bigger crowds than John Kerry was able to on Howard Dean.

We had him on the on the Sunday show, and Howard Dean said, Now you tell me.

But the point is that when you have the Democratic electorate deciding that they're all a bunch of Rachel Maddow's and Chris Hayes is and the like that they're just, you know, progressive pundits and they're gonna pick out who is the best one.

Maybe they don't necessarily always know what they're doing.

Yeah, so first of all, I think this states that you were talking about are now in the in the wall there, that well, here we go through the voting voting next week, like Florida, Florida, Ohio, Illinois and Arizona and Arizona.

So those of the state to referring to a lot of death a lot of delegates and therefore states that Sanders lost last.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Which is why just communicating with people who are big supporters of Bernie Sanders tonight.

Um, they were not sugar coating it.

I mean, they can't.

Tonight is a very, very big disappointment.

We still have Washington State.

Ah, place where, uh, they're hoping maybe he can eke out a surprise, but they're certainly not counting on it.

And, um, that's sort of one dynamic that's going on.

The other thing is just to kind of bounce off of the conversation that was happening with our friends on the panel, as they were talking about.

If Bernie Sanders, you know, doesn't get the nomination and and how Joe Biden can get the Sanders people on board in a way that Hillary Clinton could not in the general election, I got a Siri's of texts from a Bernie Sanders delegate who I met at the convention in 2016.

Going off saying you are not going to get hit is not going to get people like me to vote for him, and people in the quote unquote establishment don't understand what we want and what we're for, and that we're not gettable if they support the kinds of policies that they dio now.

Is this person alone?

Probably not.

Is he representative of all Bernie Sanders voters?

No, but it just is a reminder of where the Democratic Party is.

Republican Party, you know, is it was in a similar place, so they ended up coalescing a lot more around Donald Trump, and they did around Hillary Clinton.

But that dynamic is very really it is very raw, and it is not going to go any time soon.

Now, just to give the Converse argument that I was just giving, uh, Bernie Sanders had a theory of the case.

And the theory of the case, as you noted earlier tonight was I could bring all these new people out to vote.

Look at what I did in 2016.

Look at the crowns and those people are not turning out to vote.

They're not.