字幕表 動画を再生する 英語字幕をプリント . This event will have live subtitles. Please sit where you can see the text clearly. Thank you. you. LIAM: Are we ready for some more? Thank you very much to everyone for coming back, I was hoping that we would get a really good crowd back and that too many of you haven't just gone to the pub, which I think my dad has done, which I was tempted to do, I tried to ring him but I think he is two pints deep. Is he happy. We had a good debate this morning for the leadership hustings, it was very camaraderie and friendly and lively so the pressure is on guys to play nice. The 40-second rule we brought in in the earlier event seemed to work quite well, so initially for the first questions we want a 40-second answer and I will be hurrying you along when that comes to a close. Then, after a certain number of questions, we will move to a two-minute final summation, which will close the show. So, we have been going back through questions, we tried to vary things up, because this is a different role and tried to focus on people who are very specific about deputy leadership questions. These are the things I have have been told to say, that I have to say. Candidates drew lots half an hour ago to decide which will stand at which podium. The results mean that Angela Rayner will go first, followed by Dawn Butler, Richard Burgeon, Rosena Allin Khan and, Ian Murray. If you could keep on top of that, that would be great, because numbers are not my thing, or just basic logic. So each question will be asked to every candidate, when the candidates come out we will have no open statement and no candidate will be permitted to interrupt or heckle their owe poniesent, but a bit of light banlter is helpful. If you want to dive in and say things that is fine, but keep it nice and friendly. Shall we start? My first question is from Jennifer Corcoran in Southport. In front row, very brave! It's not a stand up gig. What key message from your campaign can I deliver on the door step to inspire our voters old and new. So it's about the key message of what you want to bring to the position that Jennifer can deliver on the doorstep. ANGELA: Thank you for your question, I did visit Southport during the General Election campaign and the key message is utilising every inch of our movement, our fantastic movement, energising and bringing it together to sell what socialism is about, what the Labour movement is about, that is our greatest thing and that is reaching our full potential as a movement and making sure that everyone can do that. I think, actually my role and my back story talks about how we can unify the party to make sure we get behind our leader and we win the next General Election because I can't think we can wait any longer. (APPLAUSE). LIAM: Excellent timekeeping, Dawn, same question to you, what key message from your campaign can be trifr delivered on the door step to inspire voters old and new. DAWN: Whenwe can wait any longer. (APPLAUSE). LIAM: Excellent timekeeping, Dawn, same question to you, what key message from your campaign can be trifr delivered on the door step to inspire voters old and new. DAWN: When I knock on the door what I want people to say is "oh, yes I know what Labour has delivered for us, Labour has delivered locally and a metro mayor or a crime commissioner and Labour will deliver to us from Government." Labour has made my life better, my family's life better, my children and grandchildren's life better. I want people to understand that socialism is about aspiration, it's about making sure you have a solid foundation in your life, that we build your life, we make you better, we are a part of you and that nobody gets left behind. When I knock on the doors that is what I want to hear them say to me. LIAM: Thank you, Dawn. The same question to you, Richard. RICHARD: Thank you very much, Jennifer for that question. I will be on the door step with you as a campaigning deputy leader. I want a people-powered campaign so I want to strengthen our campaign and message by focussing on ten key policies in partnership with the members and the Trade Unions to sell on the door step. I remember when I joined the Labour Party back in the mid 90s being very taken by the way John Prescott used the role of deputy leader as a campaigning role. I see it in the same way, not a leader in waiting, not a mischief leader in waiting but a team player working for all of you to get Labour back into Government. LIAM: Ian, are you going to be a mischief maker. IAN: Certainly not, but I want to speak to Jennifer about how she managed to get the Labour vote up 7% in the last election, because my main message about standing for deputy leader is to go out and stand in the seats we won and lost and the seats we will never win and listen to the public and reflect on what they are telling the Labour movement on what we have to do to get into Government. We have a Conservative majority, it's a disaster, the only way we can transform the country and places like south port is to listen to what the public are telling us, change it and get us back into the Government so that the people of Southport get the Labour Government they deserve. The first stop is to listen to the seats that we won and lost and listen to people like Jennifer who managed to put up the Labour vote up by 7% for Liz Savage in Southport. LIAM: Thank you. Rosena, what about your key message? ROSENA: Thank you very much, Jennifer and thank you everyone for being here today. My key message are of hope and unity. As the daughter of a single mum who had to work three jobs to put food on the table, as a mixed race child, growing up in poverty under Thatcher and Major I was written off. The Labour Party believed in me, I am the embodiment of what can happen when the Labour Party believes you in you, I now work as a doctor in our NHS. I want to knock on doors and say the Labour Party believes in you, our future generations, let's join together, rebuild from the grassroots and rebuild organisational capacity and take the fight to the Tories and show future generations through hope and unity we believe in them too. (APPLAUSE). LIAM: So, this was a very popular question and I am making no further remarks about it. It is how would you support the leader and how would you overcome any differences? That is from Elaine owe Callaghan in Liverpool. We will start one on that one, Dawn. DAWN: Thank you for that. So, look, people talk about unity, but I have walked the walk of unity. It's great that everyone is talking about being united but I have walked that walk, I have served under two Labour Prime Ministers and they don't come around that often, but we need to get us back there again and we need a Labour Government and I have served in the Shadow Cabinet. I will never, ever join a coup, because nobody votes for a a disunited party. It's a united party that wins elections, so don't just talk about unity, let's show unity, let's show it and so I will take us to the finishing line and we will have another Labour Prime Minister. LIAM: Richard, same question to you, how would you go back supporting the lead what if there were differences between the two of you. RICHARD: Well, whoever wins leadership election, whether it's Becky who I am supporting in this campaign, whether it's Emily, Keir, Lisa or Jess, I will be a team player, lacer focussed on working with and for them to deliver a Labour Government. We have to support our elected leader, I was under great pressure to do the wrong thing, which was wrong for the party when people were trying to get rid of our elected leader, I of course refused to go along with that and I am proud I took the position position. The Labour Party has always been a broad coalition of socialists like myself, social Democrats and Trade Unions, it needsgreat pressure to do the wrong thing, which was wrong for the party when people were trying to get rid of our elected leader, I of course refused to go along with that and I am proud I took the position. The Labour Party has always been a broad coalition of socialists like myself, social Democrats and Trade Unions, it needs to remain like that, as Howard Wilson says "a bird needs two wings to fly" and we can fly together, turn around this defeat and get back into Government at the next election. LIAM: Ian, how do you see that role. IAN: Well the role of deputy leader is to support the leader of the party and not only that but the entire Labour movement. I have already pledged as one of my five pledges to be the voice of the Trade Unions, the affiliates and societies that are part of the Labour family and to be their voice in the Shadow Cabinet and to the leader. I also think the role is to organise, organise, organise and get the party into a fit state in the country to take the policies forward and take the views of not just the leader but the entire Labour movement forward. I think there is one thing that is critical in that is to be a critical friend of the leader. In times gone by every single leader of the Labour Party has surrounded themselves with everyone who agrees with them and I think you need to be a critical friend to reflect the voice of the Labour movement and take that forward so we can have a strong leadership team. LIAM: And you, Rosena, in terms of differences and also working together with the leader. ROSENA: The number one role of the deputy leader is to support the leader. I fundamentally believe that and actually I am the only the only deputy leader who hasn't nominated a cand dealt because I will work with anyone. We haven't been as united as we could have been and should have been at leadership level. I have been proud to serve on Jeremy's front benchs but I had to take some tough decisions about Brexit, but I picked up the phone and I am honoured to call him a friend and I said it whats I need to do, will you support me on that. It's always been respectful because the only way to go forward is to unite and walk the walk and not just talk the talk at a leadership level. LIAM: Everyone is sticking nicely to the time frame, also found my dad over there. He is back from the pub. I was keen to make a few of the other questions we selected to the relevant.... I told you I couldn't remember the order of things, sorry, Angela, same question to you, apologies, how do we see the role in terms of working with the leader and potentially ironing out differences? ANGELA: Well, I think you can't be a leader in waiting, you have to be a support to the leader and I made a conscious decision to stand for deputy leader because my strengths are in organising and supporting our leader. Jeremy will tell me I have always been a friend who has not been shy at saying what needs to be said, but you will also now in my four years I have never been anything but pluralist and supporting our party and our movement. So that is why I have received so much support so far and so much nomination and I thank everyone for your support, but I promise you I will be a campaigning deputy leader that will not do anything that takes us away from power and will make sure that we do get that Labour Prime Minister next General Election. LIAM: So as I say, wanted to select some questions that were pertinent to where we were in Liverpool. One of the main issues facing the city at the moment is that there is a desperate need for a new hospital in the Royal Liverpool Hospital that is going to be five years late following the collapse of Carillion, we did a story saying that the overall cost is £1.1 billion now. One question here which is saying that this person's biggest fear is the continued privatisation of the NHS, can you give your view as to how we can stop this and also reverse it. So, we are starting with Richard on this one. RICHARD: I think the kind of campaign that is going on in Liverpool in support of our NHS and in support of the hospital is the kind of campaign rooted in our communities that as deputy leader I would support. I am proud that the Labour Party has a commitment to public ownership, I think we need to further deepen that and when we analyse our devastating election defeat we have to make sure we don't throw out the baby with the bath water. That means no retreat on our commitment to public observe ownership, no retreat from defending our health service from Donald Trump and his counterparty in this country, Boris Johnson, so I salute the campaign and I will support that in any way I can. LIAM: Ian, how concerned are youownership, no retreat from defending our health service from Donald Trump and his counterparty in this country, Boris Johnson, so I salute the campaign and I will support that in any way I can. LIAM: Ian, how concerned are you about privatise within the NHS. >>: IAN: Hugely concerned and in actual fact it has opened it up to a trade deal with the NHS. With Donald Trump the NHS is being created by the Labour movement, it was saved from the Tories in the mid9 autos and it looks like the Labour movement will have to save it again. That is because the NHS is not only important for country, but it epitomises our values, free at the point of use and regardless of someone's ability to pay. The issue is huge in Wales and our Labour in power in Wales shows you what can be done when have you Labour in power with the NHS. So let's get this hospital sorted and also expose the lies of Boris Johnson's lies on the NHS. He is claiming there is more money when it's going to be legislated for to freeze it and he is talking about building 40 new hospitals which we know is a lie. Let's get this hospital sorted for the people of Merseyside. LIAM: Thank you very much. Rosena Allin Khan, I think you know a few things about the NHS. ROSENA: Firstly I am so proud of the campaign here in Liverpool, but also thank you to any NHS worker or supporter who is in the audience. I still do shifts in the A&E, I have put on my scrubs and I have worked under a Labour and a Tory Government. As a doctor I stand side by side and we can't give the patients the help they need. I will stand up to this Government as a doctor, as a proud Labour sister, it's the best thing we have given this country as a Labour Government, but a Labour Government also gave me the hope and opportunity to serve in our beloved NHS. It has to stop any form of privatisation must stop, it must be completely publicly owned, it is the thing I am so incredibly proud of and as deputy leader and even if I am not elected I am going to stare the Tories in the eye, every single day I am elected representative and fight for our NHS. LIAM: Angela, what are your views on the privatisation situation? ANGELA: It's a scandal what has happened with the Liverpool Hospital and actually the Carillion collapse shows you what privatisation has done within our public services and within our NHS. I was a regional convener for over 200,000 public sector workers across Unison, I stood on the picket lines against academyisation of our schools, I was there within charmly within this election campaign to say leave our A&E department alone, I will continue to fight to reverse the privatisation of our key public services and to fight for what I believe socialism is about and that is key public services delivered within the public sector. LIAM: Same to you, Dawn. DAWN: Be under no doubt,er wound the fight of our lives. My mum who came over in the Windrush organisation worked in the NHS. In 1945 Labour created the NHS, in 1977 we saved it from collapse in the Tories. We are in that fight again, you deserve a new hospital, but trust me, Boris and his crew want to sell the NHS to Donald Trump, they are at the moment data harvesting our data to sell to Donald Trump. We need to stop it, but we need to fight together, both here and in Liverpool, we must unite as a Labour family to fight to save our NHS and our services at every single point when they are trying to close an A&E, when they are not trying to close a hospital, we have have to win the moral argument and we have to fight together to save the NHS and get you a new hospital. LIAM: While we are on the topic of public ownership and services and the north it seems a good time to ask about the trains. Duncan Havant from Rochdale CLP may have come on a train, he is asking about better train services in the north. He want know how you will achieve a Crossrail for the north? IAN: I nearly missed the hustings today because I came up from London on Avanti trains and it terminated and Crewe and trying to get here was impossible, they said I was to get on a two carriage train to Chester and made my way from there. There was 200 people trying to get on that train, quite simply the transport system is creaking under privatisation and we have to renationalise the rail network as quickly as possible. We have to make the argument to get money out of London in terms of transport spend and into the transport spend of the north east. Can you imagine a scenario of economic development in north west and the north east in Scotland where I am from if those regions were able to work together to put a transport infrastructure project together that increased development in those regions. It would be transformative and it would mean that people could work and economic growth in this region and other regions neighbouring it could be transformed. That is what we have to do in terms of Labour movement work towards that by regions in the north working together. LIAM: We have heard a lot of talk about HS2 in the national press, but up here we lake to talktransformed. That is what we have to do in terms of Labour movement work towards that by regions in the north working together. LIAM: We have heard a lot of talk about HS2 in the national press, but up here we lake to talk about HS3. >>: I support the renationalisation of our railways. I think it is essential for passengers and for staff and absolutely, it is an abombenation that so many central Government decisions that affect the people that live in the north east of the country are take are taken in London. We have to be serious about that and if we are going to be serious, we need to listen to what they want. Even if we look at northern rail as an example, this Tory Government have no way of understanding or recognition of what is going on at the system. They are looking at giving the franchise how to someone else, without an understanding of the poor timetabling and I am proud to be working with the unions to support renationalisation and making sure you have the rail service you all deserve. LIAM: You probably know a thing or two about travelling in the north, do you? ANGELA: There is a reason we called the minister at the time Failing Grayling in the north. You see the Monday that is spent in London and the south and it's connectivity, it's not just about rail, it's about buses and public transport and the connectivity between them. There is no reason why we have to put up with a fragmented privatised terrible system which treats staff appallingly as well and doesn't value the people that work in the system. So I absolutely want it renationalised, I want a connectivity, I want the money spent so that our businesses and our young people can get around the north and if you see what Greater Manchester is doing with our mayor, around making sure that young people get free transport as well, actually if we can get transport, free public transport, greener transport we can save the planet and allow our young people and allow everyone to get to work and get our businesses moving across the north which is incredibly important. LIAM: Dawn, something you would push for. DAWN: So page 90 of the 1997 made talked about how we renationalise our railways. We must take with us all of our policies that will work for the country and talk about it, from now until the next election, because those policies made sense. They say they are going to renationalise nationalise, the media didn't lose their shit, they said we need to do that. We have renationalise parts of the railway and it's worked, it's worked so well, what do this they do is privatise it again, all they want to do is put money in the pocket of shareholders instead of making sure the service works for you, so what we have to do is change all of that and we must look at our manifesto and know that we were doing the right thing. Our policies work, they are workable and sensible policies. Let's get into Government so we can put our policies into action. LIAM: That is the first swear word we have had today and I very much enjoyed it! DAWN: I promised I wouldn't. LIAM: It was a passionate moment, we all enjoyed it. Richard, what about yourself? RICHARD: I think Dennis Skinner was right when he said the Tories talk of a northern powerhouse is a complete con. It's not the northern powerhouse, it's turned out to be the northern poorhouse and we need investment in our communities and of course we need investment in transport. In Leeds I am on this pacer train which is mentioned day in day out, on one of these trains which is basically an old London bus on wheels. We deserve better than that, I am proud to be supported by Andy McDonald, the shadow transport secretary, doing such a great job as an advocate for modern public ownership and we cannot retreat on our policy of a modern publicly owned railway service. Before I was a Labour MP I was a train union lawyer working for, amongst others, Trade Unions representing workers in the rail industry. It has failed, the privatisation has failed worker, failed passengers and now the climate catastrophe on the horizon it's more important than ever we get a modern publicly owned railway service. (APPLAUSE). LIAM: So it sounds like you are all in favour of public railway. I just wanted to chip in slightly mischievously and ask if there is anything in the last manifesto you didn't agree with or you didn't think was done correctly? Can we start with Rosena. ROSENA: I am proud of our manifesto and I think many of you in this room would be as well. A lot of hard work from a lot of our colleagues some of whom are standing here today went into creating a manifesto that could I feel I could stand behind. A lot of the issues that we had we didn't are a media on our side, wouldn't let us get our positive messages across. We had to fight a defensive campaign which meant some of our messages were watered down. But we also weren't quite election ready, we didn't have long enough so it felt like some of our messages weren't getting out in the way they should and don't have the impact because too many were coming out in one go. I support the renationalisation of our rail services and it's all about accepting we need to protect our environment, we need cleaner and greener services and we know we can only do that by renationalising it. So I am really proud of our manifesto, there are incredible things in there, but come on, let's get a Labour Government, let's prove to this country they can trust us again and let's get back in there and get this manifesto deliverable and prove to people we can govern. RICHARD: govern. LIAM: When we asked this question, there were quite a few few candidates said there was too much in the manifesto. ANGELA: I am proud of the work I have done with yourselves on the national education service and I know my colleagues like Rebecca on the Green Industrial Revolution and Andy McDonald on transport we had put a lot of detail in and we had done the detail, but the overarching message wasn't there. That was the difference between us and the Tories, they had an overarching message but there was no detail, there was nothing in it. We had so much in it, we are apprenticeshipships and rebuilding the economy, which I don't think was that radical. My generation had free education, social housing and public housing, I don't that is radical. I don't think we had the overarching message that was pushing it across the line when we were facing such a hostile press and the difficulty around Brexit, they managed managed to pummel that down, but I have nothing bad to say what we were trying to achieve in our manifesto which, to me, was socialism. LIAM: Were you happy with the manifesto? DAWN: I was over the moon with the manifesto, I launch add bit of the race and faith manifesto in Liverpool and I launched it here and thank you to everyone who came out and supported that. But let me explain something about the manifesto and a bit of the manifesto that got a lot of stick. Free broadband, now that sort of came out of blue, we were like free broadband and everyone was talking about it, when I spoke to John McDonnell he was doing a tour around the country and he was talking to businesses and businesses said we are not competitive enough because we haven't access to broadband we, need broadband to make our businesseses work and grow and that is where the free broadband pledge come in, but we didn't have to time to explain it, but it was really to help the north build their business, so we didn't have time to explain it. Let me tell you something else, in Loughborough they said it was like a Toby Carvery, you had loads of stuff on your plate and you are eating it and all of a sudden I am coming up and giving you some gravy and there is some Brussels sprouts and I haven't finished eating my potatoes and so it was a bit much, that is all. (APPLAUSE). LIAM: First swear word, first mention of Toby Carvery at a leadership hustings. Richard, you are involved in the manifesto, what do you think of Dawn's plate a bit too much and too much gravy on your plate? plate? RICHARD: As a vegetarian I can't answer directly. I back our policies in the 2019 manifesto. I think we need to learn the lessons of this devastating defeat. Brexit overshadowed party loyalists and I also want to speak out about the demonisation of a decent man. There is no city in this country, I will I will claim another ten seconds. There is no city in this country that knows as much as you do about how newspapers like the right wing Sun newspaper demonise decent people that is why I was proud to take The Sun to court, be cross-examined by them for two days, defeat them in court and use the compensation to set up a local internship for young people in Leeds. So just as they demonise people in the city they have also demonised John demonised Jeremy Corbyn. The last point I will make is I will set in place working with the unions and the members working out the ten best bread and butter policies to raise living standards from the day I am elected deputy leader we will be out around the country connecting communities so by the time we get to the next election we can win that General Election. (APPLAUSE). LIAM: Ian, anything about the manifesto that didn't work for you or on the door step. IAN: Can I say what was great in the manifesto, the Green New Deal which has been mentioned by Angela. I thought the prescription of the economy not working for the majority in this country was excellent and the majority would agree that the economy doesn't work for all parts of the country. When you asked the question I wrote down too many things in it, a lot of people have said that, I think the next manifesto should have a relentless focus on the future how we deal with climate change, automation, the world of work and how we fund our public services and try and give a vision and aspiration of a what this country should look like in 10, 20 or 30 years time. The one thing that wasn't in the manifesto which came later was sorting out the injustice towards women and the criticism that the party got for that the nofs deserved because it has to be sorted and the Labour Party were going to sort it and next time they get into Government we are going to have to sort it. LIAM: Okay. Am I in the right zone? Are we starting again? We will move on to Angela and start with a question from James Gardner, we were going to have to talk about Brexit at some point. He says many Labour leaders feel left behind in the party and the country, what is your strategy to win them back? ANGELA: The next election won't be fought or won on Brexit, but what we do have to do now, immediately is talk about what type of post EU world we will be living in, because what I worry about at the moment is Donald Trump with the help of Boris Johnson getting his hands on our NHS. The lack of protections for our environment, the lack of protections for our employment rights and our consumer rights, we have got to relentlessly take it to the Tories for the next few years and then build upon what we want to see and that is the anti-competition rules making sure that they can get their hands off our public services and that we can rebuild our economy and rebuild our industries here so that we can do the best by every single part of our country, including Scotland, including Wales and including areas like this that have been held down for far too long. LIAM: Interesting, Dawn, obviously Liverpool is a strongly remain voting area and has stayed with Labour, how do you win the leave areas back. DAWN: It's by listen, by going there, building locally the communities, I have a campaign organised recruit and educate. We need to get back into the grassroots of communities, all over the country and listen to what they have to say. Not judge, not talk over them, but listen to what they have to say and from that we start building, from that we start winning and we start building trust. We need to start building trust again, because Brexit is going to harm their lives if we don't get it right. We are not going to win the votes in Parliament, the only thing we are going to win is the moral argument, so we need to get back to the roots and get back to the people who have left us and make sure that borrowed vote they have given to Boris we get it back next time and we win every single leave seat next time and we don't give opportunity for hate to seep in either. LIAM: I think I am right in saying that you disagreed with the party's Brexit stance going into the election, is that correct correct? RICHARD: No, it was correct to bring people together on this subject but it failed. I have experience of this representing a constituency, Leeds East that voted overwhelmingly to leave and have announced that if I am deputy leader I will chair a special commission into how we win back the 50 plus seats we lost in leave areas. In my constituency which voted overwhelmingly to leave, our majority was reduced was reduce by a big margin, but we got a higher vote in 2001, 2005 and 2010. I am proud that my campaign is chaired by Laura Pidcott who lost her seat because of leave. So I am mindful, we have to understand as well we lost half of our votes to people who voted remain and half of our votes to people who voted leave, it's a distribution of those votes that caused the problem, so we can't leave anyone behind, we need to bring people together and fight the battles of future, not the past. LIAM: Thank you, Richard. Ian, what about yourself? IAN: As you can tell from my accent I know what constitutional politics can do to rip a country apart. The big lesson for the Labour movement is never to face both on the constitutional issues of the way, because if you stand in the middle of the road when it comes to the constitution you get hid by cars on both sites, the issues of Brexit have been the totem I can issue of what we have had to deal with. We have to deal with where we are now, what we are now is that Boris Johnson will try to bring us out at the end of December with a new deal, what we have to do is in paverl every single industry lost and job lost, as a result of the lies now lie at his door and we will be holding him to account. As deputy leader one of the pledges I have made is I will go around the country in a constitutional convention to find out how we govern every single nation of the United Kingdom, because it matters, it matter to the Labour Party and we need to be close to the European Union. LIAM: Rosena, you are were a remain voting area, how do you think you can reconnect with the leave voters?s? ROSENA: I accept, though I campaigned to remain and I was proud to vote against Johnson and Theresa May's deal. I understand why people are leaving. As the daughter of a Polish woman who has lived in this country for 45 years who has experiences hate crime, I understand the importance of rebuilding our communities. As someone who works in the NHS alongside nursing staff and cleaners and porters from all over the EU who cry and say we feel let down and we don't feel welcome anymore, we have to rebuild their trust. How we build trust is by listening. As the deputy leader I am going to roll up my sleeves, get on a train when we renationalise the rail services, I am going to go into Scotland, Wales and around our country and I am going autosay thank you to our activists and ask people how they get the vote back, the ones they loaned to the Tories and I am going to take this fight to Boris Johnson and his cronies in Parliament and I am going to defend our workers rights, our environmental protections and I am going to defend the NHS. I hope you are with me. (APPLAUSE). LIAM: So we are here in Liverpool today and this seems a pertinent question from Benjamin, he wants to know if you, when you are the deputy leader will continue to make sure that Labour is an anti-austerityausterity party, I would add an extra question, Boris Johnson is talking a lot about infrastructure projects when reconnecting with the north and building bridges and someone left a comment on our website saying that bridges won't look after your nan, so how much of that reconnecting and funding local Government is really important to you in terms of social care as well? Dawn. DAWN: Am I next? I was one of the very few MPs who voted against the Welfare Reform Bill. The reason why I did it is because I wanted us to be an anti-austerity party. I didn't understand how we could be arguing as a Labour Party for austerity, it made no sense to me. My principles wouldn't allow me to abstain, I had to vote against it. So I will continue to do that, I will continue to ensure that we are an anti-austerity party and Jeremy Corbyn was in that lobby with me and let me tell you if it wasn't for Jeremy we wouldn't have had the anti-austerity manifestos we had that we fought for in the General Election. We have to continue with that anti-austerity stance, because it helps nobody. Let me tell you Boris doesn't care about anyone but Boris, we need to care for each other. LIAM: Thank you, Dawn. Richard, how important will fight be austerity to you? RICHARD: When I was first elected as a membership of Parliament in 2015 and Ed Miliband stood down I was one of ten Labour MPs said whoever puts themselves forward as leader must be anti-austerity, that is why I nominated Jeremy Corbyn to be leader of the Labour Party in 2015 and that is why I support him in that campaign and the second leadership campaign. I was also one of the 48 Labour Party MPs who voted against the Tory Welfare Bill and we can't go back to the future. I remember when Labour wasn't an anti-austerity party and I know that the members and the unions want to it to remain an anti- austerity party and as deputy leader you have this promise from me, in the Shadow Cabinet and hopefully in the cabinet I will be a voice for members and Trade Unions on the point of anti-austerity and all of the other issues that are so important to you. LIAM: Ian, in Liverpool, the council have lost £420 million since 2010, how would you address the massive impact it's had on communities. IAN: Thank you for the question, Dave Hanson who was a Labour Party MP and one of the best Labour Party MPs there lost his seat at the election and we have to learn why and we have to learn those lessons quickly so that we don't lose wonderful MPs like Dave Hanson again and we can get it back into Labour hands. Local Government has been savaged by this Tory Government because they know that local Government is where this Labour movement works. We have a tremendous friend here in rather ham, setting that aside, local Government is the last defence of public services across the country. The capital city I represent in Edinburgh has had hundreds of millions of pounds stripped out of its budget and that is the services that look after education and social care and as you said, look after our grannies rather than build bridges. We have to fund and be confident in local Government and that is why the Labour movement has to seriously consider how we govern all the nations and regions and make sure that we centre Steve Rotherham's up and down the countries that is not only able to invest in public services but we are able to fight for more money for them. LIAM: Rosena, anti-austerity? ROSENA: I agree up with one heater in the house and my brother and I had to move it around from room-to-room in order to stay warm. There are 3,000 homeless children in Wandsworth tonight, which is my Borough, I know what hunger tastes like, I know what it feels like to be cold. It doesn't know or understand regional variation, it matters. You have a commitment from me, an unequivocal one that I will fight austerity with every fibre of my being. That is the reason I joined the Labour Party, it's the reason I work in the NHS and the reason I am standing for deputy leader because I am so proud we are the party of anti-austerity and as our deputy leader I am going to take that forward. I have been a local councillor, I know how hard it is on the ground. You have an incredible mayor who is doing everything you can for your community, but, at the end of the day, you guys are not getting the resources you need, you don't have fiscal autonomy and you deserve better, our country deserves better and our children deserve better. (APPLAUSE) . LIAM: Angela, I am sure you have seen the devastation austerity has done to your part of the world. How high up on the agenda will be making sure that money is put back into the local Government and NHS. ANGELA: I feel like the whole of my working life I have been fighting austerity. I was a home help looking after them. I as a Trade Union I ended up putting people in rooms like this and having to tell them that after 20 or 30 years service thefr going to lose their job. Let me say austerity has killed and injured the most vulnerable people in this country, while they give tax breaks and support to those at the top. That is absolutely obscene, it is what puts fire in my belly every time I am at a socialist economy, because at the end of the world no one should die on a trolley in this country and feel like they were not good enough or they weren't worth spending more time on and resources on them. That is socialism, that is what we do, that is what we will continue to fight for. (APPLAUSE). LIAM: So, this is on a similar theme, but it's more specific, Councillor Kate Walsh says currently child poverty is at 40%, I know in some places in Liverpool it's one in two children growing up in poverty. If a Labour Government was elected how you would make sure that poverty amongst the children doesn't rise and it's brought down, what specific measures you would take? RICHARD: Thank you very much, Kate, I want to pay train bought to the work the councillors are doing in difficult circumstances. Child poverty is a stain on the conscious of our nation, one of the richest countries in the world. The question is how, as deputy leader, would I ensure we combat child poverty. I don't think it's for the deputy leader to be a different political pole from whoever the leader is, so suffice to say this, I would ensure we have a democratic party, because I know that all of you fighting child poverty is one of your top priorities. If we have a democratic party where members and unions make policy and keep the PLP to that policy then we can ensure that whatever happens in the future years, tackling child poverty and having a progressive socialist agenda never slips from our party's agenda. LIAM: There are some terrible statistics about the youngest people in the country. How do we address that? IAN: Well those statistics should shame us all and they are heart breaking and we see it as politics every single week and Kate as a councillor will see it as well. Another seat we lost at the election, Grimes Jones was a great fighter for his community. We have to win these seat back. Firstly as deputy leader I would try to make the case in the Shadow Cabinet and with the new leader of the Labour Party that we have a childChild Poverty Eradication Bill. That Bill dictates every single thing that the Labour Government does to make sure we eradicate poverty and child poverty from a this country. The previous Labour Government took two million children out of poverty, we should celebrate that but the key thing that makes that different is being in Government Government, I hope we can say goodbye to child poverty for good in in country with the next Labour leader in number ten. LIAM: You must see the impacts of child poverty in your work. ROSENA: I see children coming in to A&E malnourished and breathing disorders as a result of living in substandard accommodation, I see them scared and a loss of hope and a rise in self harming and mental health issues and in fact I am proud to say I wrote to Kate, because I wrote to every single Labour councillor across the country that I could get an email address for to say I want to hear from you, I want to work with you, as deputy leader I will lead from the grassroots up understanding that we have incredible activists, including councillors at our grass roots. It's important we look at our manifesto and take our soerplist values and fight for jobs. If parents have opportunities they can provide for their kids. No child should have to go into school hungry like the kids in my area. I am going to fight for opportunities and jobs, but more importantly our kids futures depend on it, we cannot take our eye off the ball, not for a second. LIAM: There is too many children going to school hungry, what is the best way to immediately deal with that? ANGELA: Well, immediately what we need do is get a Labour Government as quickly as possible because I know what Labour Government did for me as one of those children waiting desperately to get to my free school meal. That is why I was happy in my portfolio to make sure we put VAT on private schools and made sure every country in this country would have had a free school meal. That is socialism in action. We have to tackle the disgusting situation and we are to highlight, the Tories think we make it up when the kids are lying in A&E on the floor, they think we are making it up when kids are rummaging through the bin for food. We have to hold the Tories to account for that and make sure we get the Labour Government going forward. We have got to make sure we get that SureStart Plus, all of the things we were advocating in our manifesto and working class people do not want hand outs, they want the means to be able to get a decent wage and look after their own family and their own kids and we have got to make sure we do that. LIAM: Dawn, how do we get child poverty coming down. DAWN: I was the minister for young citizens and youth engagement and I was in Government when we pulled two million children out of poverty and the Tories said we would never do it and we did. When the Tories got into Government, they changed the goal posts, they changed how they measured it, so now we don't know how many children are in poverty because they have changed how it gets measured. That is what they do, they try and trick people. We need to say that we are not going to accept that and we have to push policies like Sharon Hodgson who is chair of my campaign, Brexit club, making sure we have a breakfast club in the school. Sometimes it's the only meal that children get. Sometimes school uniforms are too expensive, we have to make sure that policies like that, we are pushing the Government. We can start winning the moral argument, even though we may not win the vote because of their stupid 80 majority. LIAM: As you can imagine there was quite a lot of questions on the usual of anti-Semitism in my party and the moderators and I thought it would be good to ask how you thought the role of deputy leader could help to tackle that issue. So Ian we will start with you. IAN: The anti-Semitism in our party and the cancer which has grown up in the party is something we should eradicate as simply as possible. It's another pledge I have made if I become deputy leader, I want every single case of anti-Semitism on my desk every week and I want to make sure they are dealt with and a zero-tolerance approach, not because we have to deal with it and get it out of our party, but we very to reconnect with a community that felt fearful of a Labour Government and I think that is something we should reflect on seriously. As deputy leader of this party I will take personal responsibility for compliance and complaints to make sure things are dealt with so community that felt fearful of a Labour Government and I think that is something we should reflect on seriously. As deputy leader of this party I will take personal responsibility for compliance and complaints to make sure things are dealt with so we never knock on a door and you get the answer I am Jewish and I cannot vote Labour. That is a disgrace and something I am determined to sort. LIAM: What about your, Rosena. ROSENA: If I am elected as deputy leader of the Labour Party my first major meeting will be with reps from the Jewish community to start the vital task of trying to rebuild the huge amount of damage that needs to be repaired that we have caused with the community. I am proud to have signed the board of deputies 10 pledges and I am engage with JLM. I will separate the complaints process from head quarts and make it independent and I would get the independent team to review all cases, acting swiftly and expelling people who have been anti-semitic. I will put a time limit on when cases need to be resolved by and I will commit to adopting every recommendation proposed by the EHRC. There is no room in our party for racism, I would hope that every deputy leader and candidate will apologise for the Jewish community for the fact that they no longer feel they belong in our movement. (APPLAUSE). LIAM: Angela, how do you see your role as deputy leader in dealing with this issue. ANGELA: We need action and not just words. I am proud this week, actually one of the legacies I was involved in from Unison is a group of our activists take people over to Auschwitz from Liverpool and our young people to show where anti-Semitism and racism can lead to and making sure that education is there. I make no apologies for being proud we have always been an organisation, a movement that has been proud of our anti-racist and anti-Semitism work that we have done. But we have to recognise, we have to recognise that our party has grown substantially and there mass been anti-semites in this party and we have to kick them out immediately and I see my role as making sure our systems, not just internal, internal, externally, our systems are robust enough so we can be proud of our roots as a party that stands up against any form of racism, anti-Semitism or fascism in this see my role as making sure our systems, not just internal, externally, our systems are robust enough so we can be proud of our roots as a party that stands up against any form of racism, anti-Semitism or fascism in this country. >>: The Labour Party and the socialist movement has a proud record of standing up against bigotry and racism. I hate racism, I suffer it every day, me saying I am going to be deputy leader, I have had more racism than I have had before. So I hate racism and it has to be eradicated. The majority of people in the Labour Party are not racist, are not anti-semitic, but we do have a few and they do have to be booted out of the party and what I want is a structure and system that works for everyone, I want to have the debate and the discussion about racism. I can have that debate about racism as a black woman that suffers it every single day and I want to have it and I don't want anyone to be scared about having a debate about racism, because we have to eradicate it, I want a system that works whether you are racist, homophobic or transphonetic, I want a system that means that everyone gets booted out of the party because there is no place for racists in our party. We have to make sure we kick that out. The thing is this, the EHRC are investigating us at the moment, it's nothing to be proud of. I don't want to jump the gun and whatever they are going to come out with, so I haven't signed the ten pledges because I want the EHRC report to be implemented in the party and then we sit down with the board of deputies, JLM and other Jewish groups and have a discussion about where we go next. I don't want to rush this, it's too important to get it right and we have to get it right. We have to eradicate racism and we have to get it right, I don't want to rush it, it has to be right. (APPLAUSE). LIAM: Richard, what about yourself? RICHARD: There is no place for anti-Semitism in our party, I never forget when I was at school meeting a survivor from Auschwitz who rolled up his sleeve and showed class mates the serial number from Auschwitz, that shows where hatred and anti-Semitism leads. I will support the leader in fighting anti-Semitism in our party and fighting anti-Semitism in society. I do believe obviously in working with the board in the fight against anti-submit. I have not signed and won't be signing the ten pledges however, because of some concerns I have. Firstly I am concerned about outsourcing our complaints procedure and how that would work in practice, so I think that needs clarifying, but secondly I want to work with the board of deputies and all Jewish organisation against discrimination. LIAM: Thank you, Richard. RICHARD: It's a serious point that I think we do need to address in detail. I am concerned that the minorities within a minority, whether it be LGBT Jewish people, black Jewish people, Jewish people who are a religious minority within that religious minority their voice need to be heard as well. We need to listen and act with the whole Jewish community and finally I would say this, in relation to the IHRA definition, the party added in a clear statement that it wouldn't undermine freedom of expression on Israel or on the right of Palestinians, so I do want, if I become deputy leader, discussions with the board of deputies to clarify all of those points, but of course, whoever is leader will make their decision. (APPLAUSE). LIAM: Okay, another issue here, this is from Richard in St Helen's north PLC. A few of you have talked about Steve Rotherham's role here and devolution, he wants to know if you would support electoral reform, constitutional reform and more regional devolution. Am I right we start with Rosena? So electoral reform more regional devolution, are you for it. ROSENA: Yes I am for regional devolution, I can see the benefits of what it's done in Liverpool and Manchester. I do think there is a discussion about electoral reform, but I don't think we can rush this. There was a referendum on an alternative voting system done almost a decade ago, which had a really low turnout and overwhelmingly people voted against it. I do think we need to look at where we need to work with other parties to affect the aims that we need do going forward for our community, but me personally, I am not a career politician, I had no plans to be a politician and when the chance came to represent my community where I am born and raised I threw my hat in the ring because I wanted to represent my community. I want to make sure if there was any form of electoral reform it took into account people who want to represent their community and I would want to make sure that that certainly didn't leave the conversation. LIAM: Thank you. Angela, I think a lot of people don't feel represented by the first past the post system, how do you feel about proportional representation? ANGELA: I think, first of all, my priority is around making sure that devolution and Scotland and Wales don't feel annexed to England and people in England don't feel like they are pitched north, south, east and west as well. I think the devolution and people having more control and feeling like they have got more control and power within their areas is a really positive thing and at the moment it feels like it's being grudgingly given rather than working in collaboration with our areas and when we could get devolution and that power back at source we see that people feel much more engaged in their politics. I think votes at 16 is incredibly important, our young people are engaged and they should get the vote at 16 and I think our current curriculum teaches kids about clonalism and empire and our democracy here today. That is what we need to be doing. LIAM: What about yourself, more power to the regions. DAWN: More power to the people every single time. Johnson is going to try and suppress the vote, we know that, voter ID, he is not going to reduce the age, it's all about suppressing the vote. We do need to talk about electoral reform. We need to have a discussion about it, have a discussion about how we move forward. The majority of people voted for left parties, but that wasn't reflected in Parliament. So now that debate is long overdue, they are going to put forward boundary changes. Boundary changes means we are going to lose at least 30 seats. That means we could maybe never get into power again if we allow them to get away with it. We have to have the debate and that is why, as your deputy leader I will travel around the country with my core strategy, campaign, organise, recruit and educate and I will make sure that this forms part of the discussion about what we do and how we do it. LIAM: Thank you. LIAM: Do you think we need a new voting system. RICHARD: I think we need toaire on with the work of our system and we need to defend our democracy because voter ID and the rigged boundary changes are are both from the republican play book. I also think that people won't take us seriously in relation to Democratising our society if we don't Democratise further our party. I think we can't have it where members and Trade Unions are the unpaid posties of the Labour movement, pushing leaflets through the doors without having a strong enough say about what is on the leaflets. Secondly I also support open selection so that members members and Trade Unions can have a full and democratic say and make the decision about who is their parliamentary candidate in each and every General Election. LIAM: Ian, I guess you know about devolution. IAN: I have been there, bought the T-shirt, burnt the T-shirt, doused the T-shirt and put it back on. LIAM: Is that your daily routine? IAN: Slightly larger T-shirt than usual perhaps. Governance is boring we didn't join the Labour movement to talk about governance but it's critical in a post Brexit Britain. I want to give power directly to our communities. You are right about councillors being our unpaid posties for the party, the councillors need the power and money and accountability and responsibility because they know their communities communities best. So I have made a commitment as deputy leader of the party, for making sure we stop talking about what we do with the constitution and we go around the country and build a proper constitutional convention about how we govern in the future, because our nations of the UK and more importantly the regions of the UK are incredibly important to this party and if we believe that the United Kingdom should stay together we need to get more power out of London and Westminster and into the hands of the people who know best that is in local communities, so that would be at the top of that list and it's the job of the deputy leader not how we organise our party but it's about time we reorganised our country and how we govern it. I am a big fan of proportional representation we have votes for 16 and 17-year-oldness Scotland, we have a different voting system in Scotland and for Government and for Scottish Parliament. The one caution I would give is we need to find a system that doesn't throw out the geographic link between the elected member and the public, if we break that link I think politics becomes even more divorced from the public. LIAM: Can I add one question myself, we talk about constitutional reform and we have heard Rebecca Long-Bailey talking about removing the House of Lords and we heard in the Labour manifesto John McDonnell talked about moving a key part of the Treasury up to the north. Would you consider moving parts of Government outside of London? ANGELA: My head quarts is in Manchester. I think it's important to move away from London and show we have a presentation across, whether it's in Scotland, or in Wales with our Welsh Government or in our regions with all areas. Our coastal and rural areas have always felt they have not been given the support they need and some of our key areas that feel left behind, we can inject that positive by having a present there and making sure we are much more broader on that and then a lot of my talent in Ashton under lime doesn't have to move to London, they can a stay there and deliver for our local economy and inspire people to stay local. LIAM: Dawn, would you consider breaking up the Government and moving pow ares to different parts of the country. DAWN: We would have to look at that, I think, yes. I also think now and I said this in Shadow Cabinet, can we start having our Shadow Cabinet meeting meetings around the country so we can go around the country, spend time there so we can have discussions with you as the Shadow Cabinet, let's start as we need to go on, so when we are in Government it seem so alien to us to be having something outside London, that was something I requested and Jeremy Corbyn said it could be done, so watch this space. LIAM: Richard, would you like Shadow Cabinet meetings in Leeds? RICHARD: That would be great on a number of levels. I would make myself unpopular if I say my dream for the location of Parliament itself would be halfway between Leeds and Bradford because I love going down to see Dawn and Rosena and I think think should have the pleasure of travelling on our nationalised publicly owned railways under a Labour Government up to halfway between Leeds and Bradford because even when the Romans were in charge, York, of course in the centre of the UK was the capital, so I am nod proposing that London is not the capital, but on a serious note I think it's good to hear from all parts of the community and represent the working class in all of its diversity and that means representing them geographically as well. LIAM: You can have a Toby Carvery after Shadow Cabinet? Ian, do you think we need to bring more power to places like Merseyside, obviously we have started to get some of the power was devolution, but perhaps not the funding and other powers we need. IAN: It's not just about devolving accountability, it's about doing something with that accountability and Merseyside and Greater Manchester and Scotland and Wales show you that devolution works and anyone that thinks that Parliament couldn't be moved out of London should try and land at London City Airport in a gale force winds and you would be convinced we should move it to the north. I don't want this debate to be about moving Government departments and moving the Treasury to Liverpool or the DWP to Newcastle, it's goat to be about moving the power so you don't need the departments in London at all, that is where a conventional should look at is where it's best to deliver power for the people of this country, because Liverpool is as far away from Westminster as the west of Wales is from Cardiff, as Inverness is from Edinburgh. Governments store power where Parliament is so let's get the powers out remember than talking about where the brass plate goes. ROSENA: I would like to reassure Richard I spent more than my fair share of times on the trains. I support a certain local football club, also my husband is from a Welsh maining village in the valleys of Wales so we have had our fair shares of cups of tea waiting on delayed trains. Whole hearted by I would welcome any opportunity to travel around the country and have meetings and have departments moved, but I also believe that fundamentally the power has to go back to the people. Nobody knows your communities like you do, you should have a say and as your deputy leader, I have already said I am going to roll up my sleeves and I am going to come here more times than you care to see me and I am going to ask you what matters to me, I am going to take those messages, back to Manchester where it is now but I do hope we move around the country. Just one more thing on the house of Parliament themselves. Has anyone noted that Zac Goldsmith has moved from one chamber to another. We need to have a look at how this works and think about what happens with the House of Lords going forward. LIAM: Are you purposely not revealing what the local football team is? Goldsmith has moved from one chamber to another. We need to have a look at how this works and think about what happens with the House of Lords going forward. LIAM: Are you purposely not revealing what the local football team is? >>: I support Liverpool, I have been a lifelong supporter. I am going to own it and in the words of MoSalah, being Scouse is a state of mind, so consider me Scouse. LIAM: I am just keeping well out of that one! So we come to our closing statements, thank you so much for answering those questions and thank you for submitting them so we will start from the original order with is Angela, we have two minutes now, exciting, look at the clock it's changed. You are not going to know what to do with that time. Two minutes on why you should be the deputy leader of the Labour Party. ANGELA: Thank you so much for sticking around this afternoon and listening to the debate, I think deputy leader is just as important as who we choose or or leader because they will be working with the leader to transform and make sure we continue on the path we started when Jeremy Corbyn was elected. And you should be proud of what we have achieved as a movement, you should be proud of what we do and I am delighted that the first hustings that we have had has been within the historic city of Liverpool, where the working class movement was pretty much much from Trade Unions and our Labour values in everything we do now. I am standing to be the next deputy leader of the Labour Party because I want our socialism, that is rooted in real people's lives, a socialism that understands the need of the country and offers solutions, so that those that desperately need it get that support. If you elect me I will work to bring our party together again, so that, as a movement, we can hold the Tories to account and challenge the Tories cuts to, privatisation and a tax on our communities. As a tried union organiser most of my life I know this won't be done through a top up down structures but a collective socialism socialism to achieve positive changes we all need. That has to come from within. We don't need a rethink and we renew purpose we need to reverse a long-term trends that have led us to losing four consecutive General Elections and convince people to join us on that journey or we risk becoming irrelevant. I don't ever want to feel like I did on December 12th, ever again. We have to face up to the harsh lessons we had on that election defeat. But that is what we will do together as a collective organisation and as a union rep, I work for positive change, challenging injustice, it's the same fundamental purpose that I have had as a Labour MP, I will fight every step of the way to ensure that we continue the path that we have started together so, if you elect me, you will elect us to win. LIAM: What about yourself, why should we elect you as deputy leader? DAWN: Thank you Liverpool, thank you for making me an honorary Scouse bird, I will carry this around with me. I am a working class Trade Unionist Unionist, I started work on a market stall selling bras and knickers in case you are interested. I have a record of winning for others, but also also a record of winning for the Labour Party. What I want to do is make sure we lay foundations to make sure that everyone has a chance to win. That means taking on the judicial system, putting in place the Hillsborough law which means everyone will have fair access to representation. I want to make sure we do things like that. I mean I won seat for Labour with a 24.81% swing, the biggest in the country. When it comes to unity, people may talk it, but I have walked it. Let me tell you you it ain't always easy, but if you are committed to getting a Labour Government and getting Labour in power you will do it. I am the first black woman to have spoken from the despatch box, I have served under two Labour Prime Ministers and I served in Jeremy Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet. I never have and I never will be part of a coup, because divided parties do not win elections. And I have been in Government, let me help us get us back there again in five years time. We can do it, we can get back into Government, this is a grassroots campaign, my campaign is a grassroots campaign, thank you to everyone that came out, Dawn for deputy, get Dawn on the ballot. Thank you so much. I want to discuss the democracy review, I voted against the Welfare Reform Bill because we are an anti-austerity party and that is what Jeremy Corbyn put in the manifests and let me tell you, I will not leave anyone behind, we will do this together, the higher the Tories build their barriers the taller we will become, so hold your heads up high, stand up straight, prepare for power because we are going to win the election in five years time with me as your deputy, let's do this. (APPLAUSE). LIAM: Richard, what about yourself. RICHARD: I want to start off, following that one. I want to start off by thanking each and every one of you from the bottom of my heart for giving up your spare time in all weathers to fight for a better society. I, like you, am an activist, I didn't stop becoming an activist when I became an MP, I didn't stop becoming an activist when I became a member of the Shadow Cabinet and I won't stop being an activist if I am your deputy leader. I feel the pain you did when the exit poll came out at the General Election. We cannot allow that ever to happen again. I believe that as members you are core to our movement, you are the core of our movement. I will be a campaigning deputy leader, I don't think the role of deputy leader is to be, as I say, a mischief maker in waiting, I don't believe the role of a deputy leader is to be a leader in waiting I believe the role of deputy leader is to be a campaigner and a servant of all our movement, of all of our broad church. I back our progressive policies. I fully support the two manifestos, we can't throw out the baby with the bath water, we can't go back to the future and think that will make everything okay. I will stand up for party democracy, as I say, we can't have a situation where members are treated as the unpaid posties of the Labour movement. Yes, please deliver leaflet, but if I am your deputy leader, I will ensure that you have a greater say in the policies that go on the leaflets. I will also ensure ensure that you will haved opportunity with the unions to decide who your parliamentary candidates are at each and every election and that is why I support open selection. We made to reconnect with our heart lands and that is where I chair a special commission on rebuilding our lost support. Together, as a broad church which can an achieve so much. I am proud from being from the left and supporting Jeremy on all occasion, I am also proud of being the secretary of Labour MPs as my hero, Harold Wilson set up. A worried needs twowith our heart lands and that is where I chair a special commission on rebuilding our lost support. Together, as a broad church which can an achieve so much. I am proud from being from the left and supporting Jeremy on all occasion, I am also proud of being the secretary of Labour MPs as my hero, Harold Wilson set up. A worried needs two wings to - bird needs two wings to ply. Let's fly and learn the lessons and you will succeed for our whole movement and our communities together. Thank you. LIAM: Ian you have two minutes. IAN: Thank you Liam and Liverpool. I shouldn't be here today, not because of the problems with the trains but I come have a housing estate in Edinburgh. I was left living with my older brother and my mum after after my dad passed away at the heart of Thatcher's power. We were brought up to be en cased in Labour, and also to support midLee Lothian football club, I am statistically more likely to be in jail than in Parliament. The other reason I shouldn't be here is because I won a seat that the Labour Party shouldn't win. I am the edge only red spot in Scotland for a second time after we have been blown away by this nationalist populus wave. I want to use that marginalist challenge to go around the country, and to organise the Labour Party into everything again. That needs too three things. It feeds into doing the stuff around the constitution that is vitally important for this party, not just for Scotland, but for all of the nations and the regions, we have to get power into the hands of the people that matter and out of Westminster. That is why I will take up the challenge of taking personal responsibility for the convention. I also want to go to all of seats we won and lost and to the seats we will never win and listen to you. Yes, we are in Liverpool, but we are a stone's throw away from five seats we have lost, we lost in Lee, how did we lose the seats while Liverpool has a majority of 30,000, that is what we need to do and as deputy leader I will go ahead and make sure we do that. I want to rid this party of any racism and anti-semitism, I will take personal responsibility for that and we need to unit as movement. I never want to feel how I felt on the 13th of December or how I felt when I was helping good colleagues cleaning out their offices. We need to unite and let's remove the tags of these ite, we invent as a Labour movement, I am not an ite I am a leader. All I want is the opportunity to serve you. Thank you. LIAM: Last but not least, Rosena. ROSENA: I want unity, not just unity within the Labour Party, but unity with the British people. I want their hopes and ambitions to be our hopes and ambitions, I want us truly to become the people's party by taking forward our proposals of radical change that the country wants. We have to start by showing we get it. We get the struggles and sacrifices that people make every day from Inverness to Ipswich and Torquay to Tyneside. My mum is from Poland, my dad is from Pakistan and I am proudly British. So modern multicult oaralism, I get it. Discriminational racism, I get it too. My mum worked three jobs. We were cold, we were often hungry, I failed my A-Levels because I was trying to work to supplement the income. Hard times I get it. I grew up under Thatcher and Major kid like me were written off. Then there was Labour Party. The Labour Party believed in me and helped met to get to university to study as a doctor aged 24 and in Government we lifted 800,000 children out of poverty, the Tories have put them in. I still do shifts in my scrubs where I show up for work and alongside the NHS. Public service, I live it, I am driven by our Labour values of social justice, equality, hope and even by love, love of our party. As a doctor I start by listening, as your deputy leader I will listen, and then I will lead and support the leader and yes, I will offer loyalty, yes I will serve our party with the drive, the diligence and hard graft that got me out of poverty and into Parliament. As an emergency doctor people trust me with the lives of their loved ones. I am asking you to trust me with our party as your deputy leader. I will fight every day, I will listen to you, I won't let you down, please give me your vote to serve as your deputy leader and we will take this fight back to the Tories. I believe in Labour, I believe in you and us and I believe we can win, Liverpool, thank you. LIAM: Thank you very much, thank you everyone who stayed. We are all off to the Toby Carvery, can I have a round of applause for the people of Liverpool and everyone who came and a round of place for our candidates. (APPLAUSE)
B1 中級 リバプールからライブ副リーダーハスティング (Deputy Leadership Hustings Live from Liverpool) 4 0 林宜悉 に公開 2021 年 01 月 14 日 シェア シェア 保存 報告 動画の中の単語