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  • CHRIS HEWETT: Hello and welcome to Google Play.

  • I'm Chris Hewett.

  • Now, "Star Trek Into Darkness" is one of the most eagerly

  • anticipated movies of the summer.

  • I'm delighted now to be joined by the man who is the villain

  • of the piece, the man who's front and center in the

  • posters behind me, and the man who plays the enigmatic and

  • malevolent John Harrison.

  • It is, of course, Benedict Cumberbatch.

  • Hello, sir.

  • Thanks for joining us.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Hello.

  • How are you?

  • Lovely to be here.

  • KIRK: I request permission to go after him.

  • MALE SPEAKER: Star Fleet is not about vendetta, Kirk.

  • KIRK: Maybe it should be, sir.

  • MALE SPEAKER: Jim, you're not actually going after

  • this guy, are you?

  • KIRK: I have no idea what I'm supposed to do.

  • I only know what I can do.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: You're a very popular man.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Well, yeah.

  • Am I?

  • CHRIS HEWETT: I'll explain why, because we asked users in

  • Google+ and various other social networks to send in

  • questions for you, and they bombarded us.

  • It was like photon torpedoes.

  • They just bombarded us with questions.

  • They had many, many questions.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: I like the reference.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: Thank you very much.

  • And some of them were very personal.

  • They wanted to know your favorite

  • fruit, favorite perfume.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: That's outrageous.

  • That's really close to the skin.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: The color of your toothbrush.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Terrible, terrible, terrible,

  • terrible, joke that.

  • [INAUDIBLE] get over it.

  • I can't get away with it.

  • My favorite toothbrush?

  • CHRIS HEWETT: No, the color of your toothbrush.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: The color of my toothbrush?

  • CHRIS HEWETT: Yeah.

  • I think it's very invasive.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Yeah.

  • I mean, once people start to imagine what actually cleans

  • my teeth at night and in the morning, then I start to worry

  • a little bit.

  • I like to remain a little bit enigmatic, so the color of my

  • toothbrush will remain a secret.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: OK.

  • Well, we'll ignore that one.

  • We have some of the very best ones here.

  • We'll start off with the first one.

  • It is from Cumberbatch Web.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Right.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: You may know those guys.

  • Adam, Montserrat, and Edrich, who all asked, roughly at the

  • same time, you've got an incredible fan base for your

  • work in "Sherlock," and working on "Star Trek"

  • obviously opens you to an even bigger one.

  • Did it intimidate you to work in a film franchise with such

  • a rich history, high expectations,

  • and a vocal fan base?

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: It's a good question.

  • Yes and no.

  • Basically, the first film, J. J.'s first outing with "Star

  • Trek" in 2009 made me realize that the franchise was in very

  • safe hands and that, to be honest, he's such an

  • extraordinary filmmaker and human being, if I was pleasing

  • his idea of what he wanted my character to be within our

  • version of Trekdom, then that was the only concern or

  • preoccupation I had to have with expectations.

  • Because otherwise, that way madness lies.

  • You're never going to be everyone's.

  • Someone's going to be throwing up in the corner going, this

  • guy is horrendous.

  • And that's fine.

  • That's allowed.

  • That's what the world's about.

  • I'm very aware, of course, of how possessive, and rightfully

  • so, Trekkies are.

  • There's a huge deal of respect I have for them because it's

  • not just a name for a group of fans.

  • It's actually about a level of knowledge and understanding of

  • the subject matter.

  • But it's a strange thing because actually, that takes

  • ownership of what it is, which originally was a creative

  • process and received by them as an audience, and now the

  • audience has sort of taken control of it.

  • So there's good and bad with that.

  • There's knowledge which I completely bow to and would

  • love to immerse myself in, and have done

  • since doing the film.

  • So yeah, I think my fears, which were rightfully there,

  • obviously, because of their presence--

  • although I have to say, a lot of them were incredibly

  • benevolent.

  • However vocal they may be about what they like or don't

  • like, they're opinions.

  • They're not going to kill me, I hope.

  • It's just they're normal human things who just have a real

  • enjoyment of quite exceptionally rich, materially

  • rich genre and cult that is "Star Trek."

  • CHRIS HEWETT: Did you tap into that when you were--

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: No, not in preparation, again, for the

  • same reasons.

  • I wanted to be free of my own fears of what I was trying to

  • live up to or be, and what I was joining and

  • being a part of.

  • But I can step back now a little, and I have done, and

  • watched a lot more than I remembered having watched

  • sporadically as a child, both in film and television form,

  • and just been blown away by the level of sophistication,

  • dry wit, generosity, incredible condensing of

  • morality plays in these episodes.

  • There had to have been so many issue-driven drama highlights,

  • whether it be the first interracial kiss, or just

  • tackling any kind of idea of identity and place and purpose

  • and belonging, and also this wonderful, Utopian ideal of

  • what democracy in the future could be, this

  • all-encompassing star fleet of a universe that's tied by

  • bonds of a democracy rather than war and splintered

  • savagery and all the other things that threaten it.

  • It's interesting.

  • I think what J. J. does so generously in a sort of

  • Shakespearean way, especially with my character,

  • is flesh that out.

  • So I feel that he brings that generosity in a Shakespearean

  • way to all of his characters in a way that the original

  • series does as well, and so I hope that's something that

  • honors their intentions and their

  • expectations, I should say.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: The second question is from Nadia, who

  • asks, do you have anything in common with John Harrison?

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: I look a bit like him, also I've got a

  • little bit more light in my eyes normally

  • than I do in the poster.

  • I'm being very facetious.

  • Do I have anything in common with him?

  • Well, yeah.

  • I'm very loyal.

  • I'm quite tribal about the people that I care about.

  • I'm fiercely defensive of those who are close to me and

  • that I love, and that includes this family of people I just

  • worked with on this film.

  • It's a powerful reflection that is seen all the way

  • through J. J,'s work of family and connections and

  • friendships and loyalty, and it pays off because it's

  • something that every audience member can empathize with, and

  • it doesn't close it down as being just a Sci-Fi film or

  • even an action thriller.

  • It's something that everyone can enjoy

  • for that very reason.

  • And I would say that is an aspect that I share with him

  • and Harrison to a degree, because while his acts may be

  • incredibly violent and vicious and unremitting, the purpose

  • behind them, the intention is very pure and based on a moral

  • drive and a very human passion to fight for the underdog, to

  • fight for the right and survival of his people, his

  • tribe, and to make sure that there is an element of balance

  • being redressed in the powers of the modern, or futuristic

  • landscape that he's in.

  • He's a terrorist, and one man's terrorist is another

  • man's freedom fighter.

  • And terrorism is often born, not always, but often born out

  • of a minority struggle for understanding and some kind of

  • ability to answer, politically, where they're at

  • with superpowers or what we deem as being democracy being

  • imposed on them, or despotism, or lack of rule of law.

  • And desperate times call for desperate measures, and so I

  • think it's no surprise that in popular culture, there are

  • lots of bad guys who have motivations that are premised

  • in terrorism because of that.

  • It's permeated our popular culture.

  • We're still making sense of it because it is,

  • sadly, a modern reality.

  • FEMALE SPEAKER: Outnumbered.

  • KIRK: So we come out shooting.

  • JOHN HARRISON: I am better.

  • KIRK: At what?

  • JOHN HARRISON: Everything.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: Sharon says--

  • India, Aggie, Annie, and Aurora Luna--

  • great name-- all want to know, is it more fun playing a

  • villain than a hero, and was it hard to find

  • your naughty side?

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: See, this is a bit like the

  • theater, television, radio, film question.

  • It's not very easy to give a generic answer because

  • especially this one, he's complex and he's not, I would

  • say, just a villain.

  • That's the whole point of him is you're seeing somebody who

  • demands a lot of sympathy and respect.

  • So as far as getting my badass, kickass, action man

  • stuff on, yeah, that's very enjoyable.

  • And to try and control and antagonize such

  • extraordinarily iconic protagonists as Kirk and Spock

  • was great fun, and wonderful to work that out with Chris

  • and Zach, who are just fantastic actors and really

  • good friends as well.

  • So that was fun.

  • It was great fun.

  • And as far as throwing people against walls, and running

  • through glass, and jump, and still be flying through the

  • air like you do in a flying dream where your pace gets big

  • and you suddenly start to take off, that's what's happened

  • whenever I've had a flying dream.

  • And to be able to do that in real life with a harness and

  • wires like a rehearsed stunt rig is just dreamy.

  • It's amazing.

  • It's really, really exciting.

  • And it was an incredible stunt team.

  • Marcus and Martin De Boer, my incredible stunt double, and I

  • would work out with Zach's stunt double.

  • All the time, we'd be fighting and rehearsing these moves,

  • and changing things that J. J. did like or didn't like, and

  • accentuating different moves and changing the psychology of

  • the fights.

  • And I'm thrilled to sit back in the theater now and watch

  • that and go, wow.

  • That's me doing that.

  • It's something I've always wanted to do, and I was pretty

  • sure I could have a good go at it, not that I

  • knew I could do it.

  • But with those kind of people helping you to do it, you

  • can't really fail.

  • I think the results are pretty ferocious.

  • So yeah.

  • The short answer is yes.

  • I enjoy getting my bad on.

  • JOHN HARRISON: You have no idea what you have done.

  • I will walk over your cold corpses.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: From Cumberbatch Collins, what was the funniest

  • thing that happened on set?

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Oh gosh, there were many.

  • There was a very big prank played on me which by now is

  • probably common knowledge to this whole photon cream thing.

  • Basically, we go to NIF, which is this place that is Sci-Fi.

  • It actually exists, though, and Ed Moses, who runs it, I

  • think is the first person I've ever met who has yet to win a

  • Nobel Prize but will.

  • And rather like his aims, it's a question of

  • when, not if, at NIF.

  • That's my little catch phrase for NIF.

  • It's called the National Ignition Facility.

  • It's in Livermore, California, near San Francisco.

  • And we had to have quite a high level of security

  • clearance to get onto it to film there.

  • It was a miracle that we were actually there.

  • We were in Sci-Fi land as Sci-Fi characters, and the

  • trade-off between people working in this facility and

  • us was a beautiful, beautiful thing.

  • But in amongst all of that, you are in a building which

  • fires lasers around a chemical plant-sized industrial complex

  • to a point that is half the breadth of a

  • human hair of hydrogen.

  • And the idea is that by fusing hydrogen in that moment, the

  • only offshot will be water and the most

  • extraordinary amount of energy.

  • So it's a pure, unpolluting, and incredibly efficient form

  • of producing energy when it's going to happen, when it

  • actually happens, when it will work, which I

  • do believe it will.

  • I hope to God it will.

  • So anyway, that's the context for now me telling you a story

  • about an actor who's played Stephen Hawking, Oppenheimer,

  • Joseph Hooker, who's admittedly a botanist, but

  • still a scientist who's got his brain on as

  • opposed to his bad on.

  • And I got completely gulled by Simon Pegg and Chris Pine, who

  • convinced me, along with the collusion of the entire crew

  • in quite a creepy way.

  • It was bit body snatcher-ish.

  • It was like everyone was doing it.

  • Is that what's going on?

  • Photon cream.

  • So you put photon cream in dots around your face.

  • You don't even rub it in.

  • You just put it in dots around your face.

  • I thought it was something to do with the flows of certain

  • things, whether it be--

  • I mean, your temples do conduct an awful lot of your

  • thermostatic altering of your body temperature.

  • It's the whole trick of ice cubes on your wrists to cool

  • you down, and likewise, your forehead.

  • And I thought, yeah, that makes sense.

  • Pressure points, they're very integral to

  • your system's workings.

  • And also, J. J. had just given me a huge page of dialogue.

  • I have to set at speed.

  • I was running through corridors getting a phaser out

  • and being all action man-y talking a million miles an

  • hour, not like another character I play.

  • But it was given to me at eight o'clock in the morning

  • and I was doing it half an hour later, so I was in a real

  • world of wow, wow, wow, wow.

  • And then this photon cream thing was laid on me.

  • And then also, I was told that you had to shake the neutrons

  • off as well.

  • You had to do that to shake the neutrons off.

  • I'm like, neutrons.

  • Neutrons are harmless elements of an atom.

  • I don't really what--

  • anyway, I'll do it.

  • And the most burly, crotch grabbing, spittoon spitting,

  • yee har Americana just got off my horse guy, the most manly

  • American grip I've met, was like, [INAUDIBLE].

  • He was like [INAUDIBLE].

  • But even he, when Tommy Gormley, our first, was going,

  • OK, everybody, we've got to shake down,

  • you've got to do it.

  • Shake the neutrons off.

  • Shake the protons off.

  • He was doing it.

  • Shaking them off, shaking them off.

  • And Chris is going, I don't feel too good.

  • I've got a bit of a headache.

  • And Simon's going, yeah, me too.

  • I have a stomachache.

  • Is this really safe?

  • I don't know.

  • And then at lunchtime, we were all given this thing to sign.

  • And that was supposed to the moment by which-- because we'd

  • done the shakedown and the cream about three or four

  • times in the morning.

  • And that was the moment that I supposed to read this

  • disclaimer and see what it said.

  • I didn't.

  • I was so concerned about--

  • Gormley had his birthday the day before and

  • he was a bit hungover.

  • Big day.

  • Lots of action to get through.

  • A bit of a tense moment.

  • I thought, Christ, that guy's getting really angry.

  • We're suddenly going to get thrown off the set unless we

  • sign this thing.

  • I'll just sign it.

  • And J. J. kept on coming up to me going, and that's

  • all he could do.

  • He just literally went.

  • And then other people would come up to me.

  • One AD, I turned to him, and I went, my signature's terrible.

  • Should I put--

  • I've got to do capital letters for my name.

  • Do you think that's a good idea?

  • And he just went, [LAUGHS], and walked away.

  • I was like, that's charming.

  • I'm just trying to be helpful.

  • There's nothing funny about that.

  • And then later in the afternoon, they finally let it

  • go when we were near wrap and Simon was given it read out.

  • I don't know if he did it on purpose, but he did a really

  • bad job of it.

  • And J. J. went, give it to the theater actor.

  • Give it to the Olivier Award winner.

  • So I picked up and looked at it and went, [CLEARS THROAT],

  • and did my best, high and proud, puffed cheeked and

  • chested oratory stance, and announced very loudly that I,

  • actor in "Star Trek Into Darkness," henceforth known as

  • the HH Project in the national facility hereafter known as

  • NIF do hereby say that I am fully aware that neutron cream

  • is totally useless.

  • What?

  • And the whole crew just went, just crying.

  • I mean, I've never heard laughter like that.

  • It went on for about five minutes.

  • And I was standing there just laughing and laughing and

  • crying, but out of sheer embarrassment and also joy.

  • It was a very nice moment.

  • They knew that they could do that to me and I'd take it in

  • good faith, and it was very much what the

  • whole thing was about.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: Fantastic.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: It was great fun.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: Tell me that's on the DVD.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: I hope it will be.

  • I think it will.

  • I've got a sneaky feeling it might be.

  • I really do.

  • There are further episodes to that story.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: Because you and Simon Pegg, Chris Pine, and

  • Zachary Quinto had a much publicized, or much tweeted

  • about night out.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Have you got the--

  • CHRIS HEWETT: I haven't got the pictures, but--

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: But you know them?

  • Our favorite one was of us, we were remodeled into the

  • Zoolander Jeep with shakes going.

  • It was one of those things, those slightly moving kind of

  • things that they do.

  • God, the internet is a breeding ground for the most

  • crazy and inventive stuff, and that was a

  • moment of enjoying that.

  • We had a really good night in San Francisco, and it was

  • hysterically funny.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: OK, this will be your last question now.

  • This is a question from the staff at the Google Play--

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Hello, staff at Google Play.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: Indeed Out of the previous "Star Trek"

  • movies-- and there are 11, of course--

  • which is your favorite?

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: The second one's

  • quite good I hear.

  • That's quite enjoyable.

  • It's pretty good, the second film.

  • I mean, the even numbers thing, definitely.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: Oh, you subscribe to that theory, the

  • even numbers [INAUDIBLE]?

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: A little bit, but I enjoy elements of

  • all of them.

  • I think they're such different incarnations, Picard and Kirk.

  • I love what Patrick Stewart did with it.

  • It was great to see an English bring that kind of

  • Shakespearean gravitas to what is a very Shakespearean kind

  • of subject.

  • And like I've been saying, the Trek universe treats its

  • character with profound generosity in the same way as

  • J. J. does in our outing.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: Even numbered.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Well, yeah.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: This is movie 12, so the rule continues.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Well, thank you very

  • much for saying that.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: There we go.

  • Well, that's all the time we have.

  • Benedict Cumberbatch, thanks so much for joining us.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Pleasure.

  • Thank you.

  • Hope to see you again.

  • CHRIS HEWETT: Thank you very much.

  • And head over to Google Play now to get cracking deals on

  • your favorite "Star Trek" movies.

  • Until next time, good bye.

  • BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Bye bye.

CHRIS HEWETT: Hello and welcome to Google Play.

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