and you glove that 65 percent of Americans including

eighty-two percent of Republicans 66 percent

independent and BP 3 percent democrat

see the support the death penalty for people convicted of murder

those he made extremely high numbers to me a course this comes on the heel

last week the botched execution Clayton Lockett who is a Oklahoma in May

who suffered a collapse main after the injection that they gave him

didn't work and he was riding in pain before dying of a heart attack

more than 40 minutes after the procedure began to these numbers in general

seem really high do you because I twirling and capital punishment humbled

I'm actually surprised the majority of Americans are still in favor of capital

punishment and I think it kinda goes back to

the idea punitive consequences for

at per crime like murder and crime like murder serious work late unlock it did

was terrible he killed a 19-year-old woman

I he buried her alive I he was in the process and robbing her home

I mean he was convicted he was found guilty in a terrible crime

of course he should be punished severely but with that said

when you look at the numbers when you look at what our justice system was

originally supposed to be about what it was primarily supposed to be about

the death penalty doesn't make sense yes our justice system is supposed to be

punitive

but it was primarily supposed to be about rehabilitation

was primarily supposed to be about up you know

making sure that nonviolent criminals been spent time behind bars but they

would get rehabilitated people who were

violent criminals as long as it didn't involve murder would get rehabilitated

and if you were convicted of murder spend time spent her entire life behind

bars I would much rather do that

because a you're not 100 percent sure that the person has been convicted is

guilty

we have the innocence project that is exonerated multiple people

up it through DNA evidence and DNA testing that we did that story let's

meet one in 25 people

on your bro are bound to be in a state that's incredibly high

it's so incredibly high so when you look at but evidence and you look at all the

different factors that go into convicting innocent people

because the bias it by season all those other issues

the death penalty doesn't make sense and I find It really sad that the majority

of Americans are still in favor

of capital punishment yeah for the Anna is the same reason why

when you add to watch Game of Thrones the worst ecstatic to see joffe

die yeah it's a bummer that she's very bad but also because people think I'll

death penalty for the worst possible situation what if someone did this to my

mother to my sister to my brother whoever may be

yeah that person she added that quality city has a question should the worse for

the worse

among us good at that party most part say yes the proper question to ask is

are you

are you people the death penalty it means that a certain percentage

innocent people are gonna die meaning and then yup I get a lesser known

outbreaks I know rather than wait they never asked the question yeah it was a

question wrong

yeah about how we would you be able to death penalty if he knew that one in 25

the people convicted her innocent

would %um I would say no I would be babe a bit yep

there so poor at a hundred are adeptly innocent and every time they do on these

projects the willie

that a law school goes in and they try to exonerate they do

they have exonerated normal all ok it's only that's why the guy in Illinois

got shut down into criminals up in jail right now and he stopped at but maybe

that's why stop the death penalty

because he knew he was gonna go to jail we have at my

you know him the people who are for the death penalty I have to ask

why do you think it is that we don't do it up in the in the square in the public

square

why don't we have Stone Inc swelling is killin wood stoves when we do that

the reason is because we feel like it the bases are a whole whole picture

because it lowers our humanity you know when when that when you murder someone

it day it doesn't it is in a deterrent with Norman if they had the

repercussions

up the death penalty is a more violent society so what we're doing is saying

yes let's have burbank

what appealed to the darkest under Palolo Valley

a humanity instead of trying to set an example a bar to handle your problems in

a civil society

you know we're back in the dark ages were murdering people

to show that murder is wrong so again as justin and it's backwards thinking and

nobody

it said again nobody thinks it through nobody talked about correctly

the guys who don't talk about it correctly like Bill Donohue these not on

television anymore

little doubt he said let's do it into wanna we have televised executions if

we're proud

a bar justice system what we do in a secret yeah

well if you don't think it's the darkest the the dark underbelly up society

I mean is that is fascinating seventy-four percent of death penalty

proponents and 49 percent of Americans overall

say they favor the death penalty even if the person being executed

might suffer extreme pain and struggle for Brett for more than 20 minutes

before dying so that goes to the to the revenge backwater right because to the

stuff that

that where Dhabi me though

you don't your constitution with thank you I love the rug because I do not

trust but to say

when we have a discussion about our gun rights when we talk about the second

amendment don't fuck with back

right yeah with that that the priority when it comes to cruel and unusual

punishment well who cares

when it comes to the issue of torture who cares for her to come to the issue

of someone winner in pain

as they're being executed and by the way they might be in it then press OK

who cares that's not a priority that's not a part of our constitution that they

have no criminal

not now to the UK and forget they just don't think about a fortnight say that

to change who I am

just like John McCain said the reason why I am against torture it isn't

because I've then it's in

it not inspired that would be called that because we're better

then that we show how this is how we know you probably you don't go and

become a terrorist you don't you think

in dark corners where we think the rule of doesn't apply and that's exactly what

we're doing day don't care

I because they don't think it's a violation of cruel and unusual

punishment but I think it's

not cruel the thing is not unusual the thing is totally fine at this

bastard of a murderer suffer a bit longer before he died he think that's a

good thing not a bad things he can't point this thing

things out and say see that this to say about it is that a No

see how good it yes exactly and so is a toy different argument

meat we eat we have the same tendencies to so I mean we watch out

yeah but when we watch Game of Thrones again wouldn't want to copy died

many and many people in this room said you know what he died too easily that he

just after that but never more true

we all have a tennis with that as we had be very careful how we

talk with these issues because to get to the right place

need to find the right motivation the right incentives telling these people

you are you are hurting then dividing our Constitution does a poor those words

mean nothing to that Mackay

yet to talk to innocent people they're working to death by accident how much

how much money 'cause

and even then maybe make some progress but not as much as I

like to have but you know the joffrey example a

if they were showing live execution as you say I think it would turn a lot of

people

against this because the yes saw someone for 20 minutes

the botch execution and watching the the main you know and then just

riding or the electric chair when I was going and then the people have have

pride

all that horrible stuff if they saw that we actually saw that

I yeah you don't you think people just 30 return some people have your so

fucking turned on by that date

you know days to have lynchings will bring children to watch yes

the reason why we setting public executions because we don't want to

become a fucking he that what people cheering clapping they loved it

ABC what time will it happen in this country and other countries during the

French Revolution

when we're executing people by the dozens whatever when I say we I mean the

French

I they cheered because they in their minds it's just

even right right now and that would be you know with that crazy terrorist

I in parts the world when they when X ke people at the thing you know the I was

on their side

the cheer when we exclude these people here they cheer be the thing we're doing

the right thing

ship so you brought up a point earlier steve we said that

will people go 100 something happen you're cute if somebody raped your

daughter killed your life %um want the guy dead wouldn't hear what I say that

is

of course I'd won the guy dead I want the guy definitely get my

or wrong in the drive thru body what does that prove that proves that victim

shouldn't be the one

doling out the punishment enough we need to have a sober impartial person

Gill at giving up on us we do without legislators and judges

we'll let the big dumb but so because we up in traffic I want to shoot him in the

head

that doesn't mean it's alright yeah at

this thing about the numbers again he was eighty-two percent republicans

66 percent independent 53 percent a democrat

I guess I'd like to think a little better democrats but it's because we

don't have the right kinda conversations you know people just go well if he did

something horrible he should be treated Orleans never explained to them

that you know what this actually does is get you more what you don't want

yeah this kitchen wall yes to get you the schedule

the question should be how to reduce violence in america

that the quality videos by a double that penalty increase in violent

so let's get real at yeah that's what I would do that so you're right we have to

ask better questions to get better answers

and the questions they ask not what do we publish this guy who married a woman

alive

brought back in let's stedman thousand times you know that's what I would say

so they look bad questions