字幕表 動画を再生する 英語字幕をプリント EVENING'S DEBATE. AND WE JUST UNDER TWO WEEKS LEFT IN THE CAMPAIGN, THERE'S A LOT ON THE LINE FOR EVERYONE TONIGHT. SO SETTLE IN. I'M PLEASED TO BE JOINED BY THE LEADERS OF BC'S THREE MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES. WE HAVE THE LIBERALS' CHRISTY CLARK. THE GREENS' ANDREW WEAVER. AND JOHN HORGAN FROM THE NDP. WELCOME TO YOU ALL. >>> I WANT TO EXPLAIN HOW THE NEXT 90 MINUTES WILL UNFOLD. WE WILL BEGIN WITH OPENING STATEMENTS IN JUST A MOMENT. WE HAVE CONSULTED WITH SOME OF THE TOP POLITICAL OBSERVERS IN THE PROVINCE TO FORMULATE QUESTIONS TAILORED TO EACH SPECIFIC LEADER. THERE WILL BE A PORTION OF THE DEBATE WHERE THE LEADERS WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO QUESTION AND DEBATE EACH OTHER ON THREE MAJOR THEMES AND OTHER HOT TOPICS. AND THERE ARE, OF COURSE, QUESTIONS FROM AVERAGE BRITISH COLUMBIANS. WE ARE GOING TO BE OBSERVING SOME STRICT RULES OF ORDER. THERE ARE TIME SEQUENCES AND WE ARE USING A CLOCK. IF THE LEADER GOES OVER THE ALLOTTED TIME, THEIR MIC WILL BE CUT. THERE WILL BE TIME FOR FREE DEBATE BETWEEN THE LEADERS. WE HAVE DECIDED ONLY TWO LEADERS WILL BE ALLOWED TO DEBATE AT A TIME. THIS WAS A FORMAT THAT WAS AGREED TO BY THE POLITICAL PARTIES AND BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BROADCAST CONSORTIUM. SO LET'S GET UNDERWAY. >>> THE ORDER OF THE EVENING HAS BEEN PREARRANGED IN A DRAW WITH ALL THE PARTIES AND OPENING REMARKS WILL BE ONE MINUTE IN LENGTH EACH. GOING FIRST IS THE NDP'S JOHN HORGAN. Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU, JENNIFER, AND THANK YOU TO THOSE VIEWERS WHO ARE TUNING IN TONIGHT. >>> IN THIS ELECTION, YOU HAVE A CLEAR CHOICE. FOUR MORE YEARS OF THE GOVERNMENT WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP OR A GOVERNMENT THAT'S WORKING FOR YOU. OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS, LIFE HAS BEEN GETTING MORE DIFFICULT. YOU ARE WORKING HARDER BUT NOT GETTING AHEAD. MEDICAL SERVICES PREMIUMS KEEP GOING UP, HYDRO RATES KEEP GOING UP, HOUSING COSTS ARE OUT OF CONTROL. THE SERVICES THAT YOU COUNT ON AREN'T THERE FOR YOU WHEN YOU NEED THEM, AND THE JOBS THAT WE COUNTED ON ARE DISAPPEARING AND BEING REPLACED BY LOW-WAGE, PART-TIME WORK. I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD FOUR MORE YEARS OF CHRISTY CLARK AND HER RICH DONORS CALLING THE SHOTS. I BELIEVE THERE'S A BETTER WAY. WE CAN HAVE A BRITISH COLUMBIA THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. I WANT TO SEE AN AFFORDABLE BRITISH COLUMBIA WHERE SERVICES THAT YOU COUNT ON ARE THERE FOR YOU AND AN ECONOMY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP HAVE HAD THEIR PREMIER. IT'S TIME YOU HAD ONE THAT WORKS FOR YOU. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Mr. HORGAN. >>> LET'S MOVE ON NOW TO ANDREW WEAVER FROM THE GREENS. HE HAS THE NEXT SPOT. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE TONIGHT FOR THE DEBATE TONIGHT. YOU KNOW, I'M THRILLED TO BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU OUR EXCITING VISION OF A PROSPEROUS FUTURE FOR OUR BEAUTIFUL PROVINCE. LIKE THE REST OF OUR EXCEPTIONAL TEAM, I AM NOT A CAREER POLITICIAN. I HAVE COME TO THIS AS A SCIENTISTS, FOR MOST OF MY LIFE, I HAVE BEEN AN EDUCATEDOR AND A SCIENTIST. JUST FIVE YEARS AGO, I WOULD NEVER HAVE IMAGINED MYSELF AS A LEADER OF A POLITICAL PARTY, BUT AFTER YEARS OF CHALLENGING MY STUDENTS TO BE MORE ENGAGED IN OUR DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS, IF THEY WANTED TO FACILITATE CHANGE, I REALIZED I NEEDED TO TAKE MY OWN ADVICE. AND SO WHEN JAMES DIRK, THE FORMER LEADER OF THE BC GREENS, ASKED ME FOR THE FOURTH TIME IF I WOULD RUN, I SAID YES. SO SINCE BEING ELECTED I HAVE TRAVELLED ACROSS BRITISH COLUMBIA AND WHEREVER I HAVE GONE, BRITISH COLUMBIANS HAVE SAID THE SAME THING. THEY ARE DESPERATE FOR A NEW VISION FOR THIS PROVINCE AND THAT THEY CAN VOTE FOR RATHER THAN BEING TOLD WHAT THEY SHOULD BE VOTING AGAINST. TONIGHT I'M EXCITED TO BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THE BC GREEN VISION WITH YOU. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Mr. WEAVER. >>> LET'S MOVE TO LIBERAL LEADERICS CHRISTY CLARK. YOU HAVE 60 SECONDS. >> THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN TONIGHT. I KNOW HOW BUSY EVERYBODY IS. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO TO HELP BUILD A STRONG BRITISH COLUMBIA. YOU KNOW, DOING WHAT IS RIGHT ISN'T ALWAYS DOING WHAT'S POPULAR. BUT DOING WHAT'S RIGHT IS WORKING. IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, WE ARE NUMBER ONE IN ECONOMIC GROWTH, NUMBER ONE IN JOB CREATION. OUR HEALTHY OUTCOMES ARE AMONGST THE BEST IN THE WORLD, AND OUR STUDENTS SCORE AMONGST THE BEST IN THE WORLD WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR TEST RESULTS. WE ARE CONTROLLING SPENDING AND THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN INVEST IN HEALTH CARE, IN HOSPITALS, IN SCHOOLS, IN ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE WITHOUT GOING INTO DEFICIT. WE ARE DOING THIS TOGETHER. BUT IN THE FACE OF RISING PROTECTIONISM IN THE UNITED STATES, THE QUESTION IN THIS ELECTION IS WHICH LEADER HAS THE SKILLS TO LEAD US IN THE TIME OF UNCERTAINTY. WHICH OF US WILL PROTECT AND PRESERVE JOBS FOR BRITISH COLUMBIANS, TO SECURE A STRONG BC AND A BRIGHT FUTURE? >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms. CLARK. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR STAYING TO TIME. WE WANT TO NOW FOCUS ON THREE MAJOR THEMES TO BEGIN THIS DEBATE IN EARNEST AND WE ASKED FOR INPUT FROM THE PEOPLE OF BC AND RECEIVED AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE. THERE WAS ONE PARTICULAR THEME THAT EMERGED RIGHT OFF THE TOP. THAT WAS THE HIGH COST OF HOUSING IN THIS PROVINCE. GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. PETER DENT FROM KAMLOOPS WROTE THAT HIS TWO UNIVERSITY-EDUCATED KIDS SAY THEY JUST CANNOT AFFORD TO BUY IN THE LOWER MAINLAND AND SO THEY ARE LOOKING TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN CANADA. THIS WAS A THEME ECHOED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND LED US TO CHOOSE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AS OUR FIRST TOPIC. SO THE PARTIES HAVE DRAWN FOR SPOTS. AND THE FIRST QUESTION FROM THE CONSORTIUM GOES TO JOHN HORGAN OF THE NDP. Mr. HORGAN, YOUR PARTY HAS BEEN PREPARING TO BECOME GOVERNMENT FOR SOME 16 YEARS NOW. AND AS PART OF YOUR PLAN TO MAKE HOUSING MORE AFFORDABLE, YOU HAVE SUGGESTED A $400 REBATE FOR RENTERS. NOW, WE DID THE MATH. THAT WORKS OUT TO ABOUT $33 A MONTH. CAN YOU TELL US HOW WILL THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO HOUSING? YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS TO RESPOND. >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. AND THE HOUSING RENTER REBATE IS JUST ONE PART OF A MULTIFACETED PLAN TO MAKE LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE FOR BRITISH COLUMBIANS. WE HAVE BEEN RAISING ALARM BELLS ABOUT THE HIGH COST OF HOUSING IN BRITISH COLUMBIA FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS. AND WHAT WE GOT BACK FROM THE BC LIBERALS WAS STONED FACES. NO DESIRE TO TAKE ACTION TO STOP THE FLOOD OF SPECULATIVE MONEY COMING INTO THE MARKETPLACE AND DRIVING UP THE COST OF HOMES HERE IN METRO VANCOUVER. AND IN FACT, RIGHT ACROSS BRITISH COLUMBIA. THE CONSEQUENCE OF THAT IS THAT WE HAVE A SEEN $600,000 INCREASE IN THE COST OF A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME BETWEEN 2014 AND 2016. IF YOU CAN'T FIND A PLACE TO BUY, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND A PLACE TO RENT, BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT EITHER. 15,000 BRITISH COLUMBIANS ARE ON THE WAIT LIST AT BC HOUSING LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE BROUGHT IN THE RENTERS REBATE TO MATCH THE HOMEOWNER GRANT WHICH HAS BEEN IN BRITISH COLUMBIA FOR OVER 50 YEARS NOW. IF HOMEOWNERS CAN GET A BREAK FOR OWNING A HOME, WE FEEL THAT RENTERS DESERVE A BREAK AS WELL. IT'S $400. IT CAN GO A LONG WAY TO HELP PEOPLE PUT A FEW MORE DOLLARS IN THEIR POCKET WHILE THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE. WE ALSO WANT TO CLOSE THE LOOPHOLES OF THE ACT THAT ALLOW BAD LANDLORDS TO MAKE IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR TENANTS BY MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE TO STICK TO LEASES, THE RENOVICTION AND DEMOLITION ISSUES OVER THE LOWER MAINLAND. THE LEADERS OF THE LIBERALS HAVE FAILED TO ADDRESS THOSE BIG ISSUES. >> Jennifer: CHRISTY CLARK IS UP NEXT. YOUR GOVERNMENT DENIED THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE HOUSING MARKET FOR A LONG TIME. WHY DIDN'T YOU INTERVENE SOONER? >> YOU KNOW, THE THING ABOUT HOMEOWNERSHIP IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ALREADY OWN A HOME, YOU HAVE A LOT OF EQUITY IN THAT HOME. IT IS YOUR INVESTMENT AND IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO PROTECT. SO IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT OUR GOVERNMENT MADE SURE WE DID ALL OF OUR HOMEWORK BEFORE WE MOVED WITH A 15% TAX ON FOREIGN BUYERS WHICH HAS HAD EXACTLY THE EFFECT THAT WE HOPED IT WOULD. WE MOVED ON A LUXURY TAX FOR HOMES OVER $2 MILLION, AND NOW WE ARE HELPING FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS, 42,000, WITH A LOAN OF UP TO $37,500 FOR EACH OF THEM TO HELP GROUP TOGETHER THAT ALL-IMPORTANT DOWN PAYMENT. THE NDP WANT TO SCRAP THAT PLAN AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS THEY WANT TO SUPPORT PEOPLE STAYING IN RENTAL HOMES WITH A DOLLAR A DAY. EVEN THE NDP'S CANDIDATES SAY THAT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY A DROP IN THE BUCKET. I THINK MOST OF US WANT OUR KIDS TO BE ABLE TO OWN THEIR OWN HOME. THEY DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT, JOHN HORGAN, AS THEIR LANDLORD. THEY WANT TO LIVE SOMEWHERE THAT BELONGS TO THEM. THAT'S WHY WE STARTED THE HOME PROGRAM AND THAT'S WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE, BECAUSE FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS SHOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO GET INTO THIS MARKET. THE FOREIGN TAX HAS HAD THE IMPACT THAT WE WANTED IT TO HAVE. RELIEF ON THE PROPERTY PURCHASE TAX IS HAVING AN IMPACT AT HELPING PEOPLE GET INTO THEIR FIRST HOMES AS WELL. WE BELIEVE THAT THE DREAM OF HOMEOWNERSHIP SHOULD STAY WITHIN THE REACH OF THE MIDDLE CLASS AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE MADE THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms. CLARK. >>> AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, Mr. WEAVER. WE KNOW THAT THE 15% FOREIGN BUYERS' TAX INITIALLY DID COOL THE REAL ESTATE MARKET TO SOME EXTENT. YOU ARE NOW PROPOSING DOUBLING THAT TAX TO 30% AND EXPANDING IT ACROSS THE PROVINCE AS WELL AS INCREASING THE PURCHASER'S PROPERTY TAX. ARE YOU CONCERNED AT ALL ABOUT THE IMPACT THIS MAY HAVE ON THE EQUITY THAT BRITISH COLUMBIANS HAVE IN THEIR HOMES? >> NO. IN FACT, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THERE HAS BEEN A SPECULATIVE HOUSING MARKET. HOUSES SHOULD BE THERE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE IN, NOT TO BE VIEWED AS COMMODITIES TO TRADE LIKE GOLD OR POTASH. WHAT WE HAVE RECOGNIZED AS WELL IS THIS GOVERNMENT HAS LEFT THIS AS AN ISSUE TO GET OUT OF CONTROL. WHEN THE FOREIGN OWNER TAX WAS BROUGHT IN, IT WAS 15% ONLY FOR METRO VANCOUVER. THIS HAS NOT SOLVED THE PROBLEM. IN FACT, GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZES THAT THEY ARE EXPECTING INCREASING REVENUE FROM THE FOREIGN TAX. IF THE TAX WAS TO WORK, YOU WOULD EXPECT THE DECREASING REVENUE. BUT THEY ARE BUDGETING INCREASING REVENUE. WE BELIEVE THE TAX IS TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE IN BRITISH COLUMBIAN CAN ACTUALLY LIVE HERE AND WE'RE EXTENDING IT TO 30% ACROSS THE PROVINCE. NOT JUST IF YOU OWN A PASSPORT THAT'S FOREIGN AS THE PREMIER DID. WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THAT IF YOU LIVE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA AND PAY -- AND YOU PAY TAXES IN CANADA, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE AND OWN YOUR OWN PROPERTY. SO THAT IS OUR APPROACH. IT ACTUALLY PUTS PRESSURE ON THE UPSIDE OF THE MARKET. OUR PROPERTY TRANSFER TAX CHANGES WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE IT CHEAPER FOR PEOPLE TO SELL AND BUY HOMES UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS. IT ONLY KICKS IN IN LARGER AMOUNTS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE MEGA-MANSIONS. YOU KNOW, I RAISED THIS IN THE LEGISLATURE FIRST AND WHILE THE BC NDP WOULD HAVE SAID THAT THEY HAVE BEEN RAISING IT FOR THREE YEARS, THE REALITY IS FOR THAT TIME, THEY HAVEN'T OFFERED ANY SOLUTIONS. THE BC GREENS ARE A SOLUTIONS-BASED PARTY AND WE PROPOSE A DIVERSE ARRAY OF POLICIES THAT WILL MAKE LIFE AFFORDABLE IN BC. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE. NOW THAT YOU HAVE HEARD THE PARTIES' POSITIONS, WE WILL GET INTO THE DEBATE PORTION ON HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. LEADERS ARE GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK EACH OTHER QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT THIS FIRST THEME AND THE RESPONDENTS WILL HAVE 45 SECONDS UNINTERRUPTED AND THEN THE TWO LEADERS WILL DEBATE THAT QUESTION FOR 90 SECONDS. THE LEADER NOT INVOLVED IN THE DEBATE WILL NOT PARTICIPATE. AGAIN, WE'LL REMIND YOU POSITIONS HAVE BEEN DRAWN, AND Mr. HORGAN WON THIS PARTICULAR SEGMENT. HE WILL LEAD OFF WITH A QUESTION TO Ms. CLARK ON HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU. Ms. CLARK, YOU SAID YOU WAITED TO GET THE RIGHT ANSWER. WHILE YOU WAITED, THE AVERAGE HOUSING PRICE IN VANCOUVER WENT UP $600,000, ELIMINATING ANY PROSPECT OF YOUNG PEOPLE BUYING A HOME IN THIS PROVINCE. WHY DID YOU WAIT SO LONG? WAS IT BECAUSE YOUR RICH DEVELOPERS WERE MAKING A BUNDLE OR WAS IT YOU JUST DIDN'T CARE ABOUT FAMILIES NOT BEING ABLE TO BUY HOMES IN METRO VANCOUVER? >> WE CARE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ALREADY OWN THEIR HOMES TOO. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOUNG PEOPLE GET INTO THOSE FIRST HOMES BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IF YOU OWN YOUR OWN HOME, GOVERNMENT WASN'T GOING TO TAKE SOME INITIATIVE SO DRAMATIC AND SO HARMFUL THAT IT MEANT YOU LOST THE EQUITY IN THE HOME THAT YOU HAVE BUILT. A 15% FOREIGN TAX ON BUYERS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE IN NORTH AMERICA. WE COLLECTED THE DATA AND WE MADE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND GUESS WHAT? IT WORKED. IT COOLED THE MARKET. BUT IT'S NOT ALL WE NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO SUPPORT FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS THROUGH THE HOME PROGRAM WHICH IS UP TO $37,000 LOAN. THE NDP WANT TO SCRAP THAT. THEY WANT TO PAY RENTERS A DOLLAR A DAY TO STAY IN A RENTAL ACCOMMODATION. I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO OWN THE HOME THAT THEY LIVE IN. >> Jennifer: YOU -- >> I MET TODAY WITH YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, FAMILIES THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO STAY IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. THEY ARE LEAVING BC FOR OTHER JURISDICTIONS BECAUSE HOUSING PRICES ARE JUST TOO HIGH. WHEN I TALK TO CEOs OF TECH COMPANIES THEY SAY THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE THEY HAVE IN RETAINING PEOPLE IS THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. THEY DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A BASEMENT APARTMENT, BUT THAT'S ALL THEY CAN FIND. YOUR NEGLIGENCE OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS HAS LED TO A MARKET THAT IS UNATTAINABLE FOR THE FAMILIES YOU PROFESS TO REPRESENT. AND TO MAKE RENTERS SECOND-CLASS CITIZENS I THINK IS PRETTY -- WELL, I WOULD CALL IT PATRONIZING -- >> HOW IS ONE DOLLAR A DAY GOING TO HELP A TECH WORKER BE ABLE TO RENT A HOME IN VANCOUVER? AND HOW IS SCRAPPING THE FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS PROGRAM, 42,000 PEOPLE, NO INTEREST, NO PAYMENT LOAN FOR FIVE YEARS, FOR 37 AND A HALF DOLLARS AT THE TOP END SO THAT PEOPLE CAN OWN THEIR OWN HOME? HOW IS SCRAPPING THAT PROGRAM GOING TO MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA? >> WHY SHOULD ANYONE BELIEVE YOU NOW? JUST BEFORE AN ELECTION, YOU ARE ALWAYS QUICK WITH A SMILE AND A PROMISE BUT YOU DON'T DELIVER. SAME THING WITH HOUSING. THE MARKET HAS SLOWED BUT THE AVERAGE PRICE HAS NOT COME DOWN. I STOOD TODAY WITH FAMILIES IN FRONT OF A HOME 900 SQUARE-FOOT HOME, $1.2 MILLION ASSESSMENT. THAT HAD GONE UP $300,000 OVER THE PAST 18 MONTHS -- >> HOME LESS AFFORDABLE IS NOT HAVING -- IS HAVING JOB LOSSES IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. AND HAVING THE HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN THE COUNTRY AS WE DID UNDER THE LAST NDP GOVERNMENT. >> Jennifer: I'LL STOP YOU BOTH THERE FOR THAT PORTION OF THE DEBATE. THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ALLOW Ms. CLARK, WHO HAS A QUESTION FOR Mr. WEAVER, AND HIS ANSWER WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED AND THEN THERE WILL BE TIME FOR A DEBATE BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU. Dr. WEAVER, YOU ARE ADDING THREE NEW PUNITIVE TAXES FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PURCHASE A HOME AT A TIME WHEN GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DOING EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE THING, AND THAT IS LOWERING TAXES FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY A HOME. HOW DOES THAT MAKE LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE? >> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. IN ACTUAL FACT FOR MOST PEOPLE, THE PROPERTY TRANSFER TAX THAT WE ARE CHANGING WOULD ACTUALLY DECREASE THE COST OF BUYING AND SELLING A HOME. WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THAT IN OUR SOCIETY, TAXES SHOULD BE PROGRESSIVE RATHER THAN REGRESSIVE. WE BELIEVE THOSE WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY SHOULD PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL CHANGE, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THE HOMEOWNER GRANT. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY LIVING IN A MANSION DOES NOT NEED THE HOMEOWNER GRANT TO THE SAME EXTENT AS SOMEBODY WHO IS EARNING -- SORRY, SOMEBODY LIVING IN A MANSION EARNING A LOT OF MONEY DOESN'T NEED IT TO THE EXTENT SOMEONE STRUGGLING TO GET INTO THEIR FIRST HOME. THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE. OUR APPROACH IS TO INCENTIVIZE THROUGH A PROGRESSIVE TAXATION, THE BUYING OF SELLING HOMES AT THE LOWER END AND CLAMPS AT THE UPPER END, PARTICULARLY SO BRITISH COLUMBIANS CAN LIVE IN THEIR OWN PROVINCE. >> WHAT YOU ARE INTRODUCING, I MEAN, FOR VIEWERS WHO MAY BE TUNING IN FOR THE FIRST TIME TO THE ELECTION, ARE THREE NEW TAXES. A LIFETIME CAPITAL GAINS TAX, AN ADDITIONAL SURTAX ON TOP OF EXISTING PROPERTY TAXES THAT WOULD GO TO THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT, NOT TO YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AND A PROPERTY TRANSFER TAX. AND I ALWAYS THINK THAT THERE IS -- YOU KNOW, POLITICIANS CAN ALWAYS COME UP WITH NEW WAYS TO GET YOUR TAXES AND SPEND MORE -- >> THAT'S IN ACTUAL FACT, Ms. CLARK, WHAT WE ARE ADDRESSING IS THE ISSUE YOU HAVE FAILED TO ADDRESS FOR THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS. WE'RE ADDRESSING SPECULATION. WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING IS PEOPLE WHO FLIP HOMES. THEY LIVE IN A HOME FOR SIX MONTHS, THEY MOVE TO A NEW HOME. AND THEY ARE USING MOVING TO HOMES AS A MEANS OF TRADING A COMMODITY. OUR LIFETIME CAPITAL GAINS TAX DOES NOT APPLY TO SOMEBODY LIVING IN PLACE. IT DOES NOT APPLY TO SOMEONE LIVING IN A HOUSE FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS. IT ONLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE FLIPPING HOMES. THE OTHER -- THE FOREIGN BUYERS TAX IS TO ENSURE THAT BRITISH COLUMBIANS COULD ACTUALLY LIVE IN OUR PROVINCE. >> BUT DOCTOR WEAVER, I MEAN, I'M GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION OF Mr. HORGAN, WHICH IS BOTH OF YOU ARE DETERMINED, IN YOUR PLANS, TO KILL JOBS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. HOW DOES THAT MAKE IT MORE -- >> WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IN BRITISH COLUMBIA IS TO ENSURE THAT LIFE IS AFFORDABLE FOR BRITISH COLUMBIANS, THAT BRITISH COLUMBIANS CAN ACTUALLY LIVE IN THEIR HOMES. WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S TIME TO PUT PEOPLE FIRST, NOT YOUR CORPORATE DONORS. NOT YOUR UNION DONORS. BUT PEOPLE FIRST IN THE PROVINCE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA AND THAT IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE BC GREEN POLICIES. >> Jennifer: AND THAT IS TIME. Mr. WEAVER, MAY I CLARIFY FOR MY OWN PURPOSES. IS IT Dr. WEAVER -- >> I DON'T MIND, DOCTOR OR Mr. OR ANDREW. >> OR DOCTOR Mr. >> I STICK WITH THE FORMTIES. WHICH DO YOU PREFER? >> I HONESTLY DON'T MIND. >> Jennifer: Mr. WEAVER IS IN THE SCRIPT. SO I'LL STICK WITH THAT. IT IS YOUR TURN TO ASK THE QUESTION AND YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO ADDRESS Ms. CLARK. THE CLOCK HAS BEEN RESET. PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU. THE HOUSING CRISIS IN BC HAS BEEN GETTING WORSE FOR YEARS. YET YOU HAVE BARELY DONE ANYTHING TO ADDRESS IT. WHY ARE YOUR LIMITED MEASURES ONLY FOCUSSED ON VANCOUVER WHEN PEOPLE ACROSS THIS PROVINCE ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE COSTS OF HOUSING? >> WELL, IT'S FOCUSSED ALL OVER METRO VANCOUVER. SO, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY FROM THE LANGLEY BORDER TO -- TO THE COAST. AND IT'S A 15% TAX ON FOREIGN BUYERS. FIRST PLACE IT'S BEEN DONE ANYWHERE IN NORTH AMERICA, AND IT HAS WORKED EXACTLY AS WE EXPECTED. TORONTO IS NOW COPYING WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND SLOWED DOWN THE RATE OF GROWTH IN THE PRICE OF HOUSING. WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO MORE OF THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP HOMES AND HOMEOWNERSHIP WITHIN THE REACH OF THE MIDDLE CLASS. I DON'T THINK ADDING THREE NEW TAXES INCLUDING A SURTAX ON TOP OF PROPERTY TAXES IS A WAY TO MAKE LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE. THE PLAN TO SCRAP THE HOME PROGRAM IS GOING TO HELP EITHER. ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE MADE IS KEEPING IT AFFORDABLE FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS. >> AGAIN, Ms. CLARK, YOU HAVE ACTUALLY MISSED THE POINT OF ACTUALLY DEALING WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS. YOU HAVE NOT ADDRESSED SPECULATION. IN THE LEGISLATURE, I RAISED THE FOREIGN TAX YEARS AGO, WHEN TALKING ABOUT OTHER JURISDICTIONS. FINALLY, YEARS LATER, YOU INTRODUCE IT. IN THE LEGISLATURE, I TALKED ABOUT SPECULATIVE LOOPHOLES, SO-CALLED BEAR TRUST LOOPHOLE. WHEN I RAISED IT IN THE LEGISLATURE, YOUR MINISTER OF FINANCE SAID TO ME, WE WON'T DO IT BECAUSE OF THE UNFORESEEN CONSEQUENCES. SURE THERE WERE. A HOUSING MARKET THAT HAS GOT OUT OF CONTROL. Ms. CLARK, THE US HOKING CRISIS EXISTS IN VICTORIA -- HOUSING -- IN KELOWNA, IN KAMLOOPS. IT'S NOT JUST HERE IN METRO VANCOUVER. WHY HAVE YOU LEFT THE REST OF THE PUBLIC UNDER THE BUS -- THROWN THEM UNDER THE BUS. >> Dr. WEAVER, WE HAVE INTRODUCED THE HOME PROGRAM, WHICH IS A LOAN -- INTEREST-FREE, NO PAYMENT LOAN FOR FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS, THE LUXURY TAX ON HOMES OVER $2 MILLION. BUT, YOU KNOW, Dr. WEAVER, YOUR PLAN TO ADD A SURTAX ON TOP OF PROPERTY TAXES IS NOT GOING TO MAKE LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE. NEITHER IS Mr. HORGAN'S PLAN FOR A DOLLAR A DAY TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN CONTINUE TO RENT AND NEVER OWN THE ROOF OVER THEIR OWN HEADS -- >> CLEARLY -- WELL, CLEARLY YOUR PLAN HAS NOT WORKED BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE CRISIS WE'RE IN PRECISELY BECAUSE YOUR PLAN HAS NOT WORKED. HAD THE BC LIBERALS HAD A PLAN, LISTENED TO THE BC GREENS IN THE LEGISLATURE, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION TODAY. BUT WE DIDN'T. THIS PROBLEM HAS GOT AWAY FROM ITSELF. YOU HAVE TAKEN TOO LONG TO ACTUALLY DEAL WITH IT AND NOW YOU ARE DOING STOP-GAP METHODS SLOWLY IN METRO VANCOUVER. >> Jennifer: THUCHLT WE'LL WRAP UP THIS PORTION OF THE DEBATE. TIME FOR THE NEXT THEME HCHLT WHETHER IT IS JOBS, INVESTMENTS, AND GROWTH, OR DEBTS, THE ECONOMY IS TOP OF MIND. WE SAW THIS JUST YESTERDAY AS THE SOFTWOOD LUMBER DISPUTE WITH THE U.S. REARED ITS HEAD AGAIN AND THAT'S A TOPIC WE MAY HEAR MORE ABOUT FROM THE LEADERS TONIGHT. >>> FOR NOW, THE FIRST QUESTION ON THE ECONOMY BY DRAW GOES TO LIBERAL LEADER CHRISTY CLARK. Ms. CLARK, IN THE LAST ELECTION, YOU RAN ON A FAMILIES FIRST AGENDA. IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, HOWEVER, BC HYDRO RATES HAVE GONE UP, MEDICAL SERVICES PREMIUMS HAVE SOARED AND ICBC RATES HAVE ALSO CLIMBED. CAN YOU TELL BRITISH COLUMBIANS HOW THIS IS PUTTING FAMILIES FIRST AND HELPING THEM? >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, JENNIFER. MSP RATES FOR MOST PEOPLE ARE NOW DOWN BACK AT 1993 LEVELS AND WE'RE MAKING SURE LIFE IS MORE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE THROUGH THE BILLION-DOLLAR TAX CUT, ON THE WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ELIMINATE IT ALTOGETHER AS THE ECONOMY GROWS. MAKING LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO USE THE PORT MANN BRIDGE REGULARLY BY ABOUT $1,100, GIVING RELIEF ON TOLLS AND ALSO A SIMILAR PROGRAM FOR $250 WORTH OF RELIEF FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THE FERRIES. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, TAKE-HOME PAY HAS INCREASED BY $8,500. MOST -- MOSTLY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE LOWEST MIDDLE-CLASS TAXES ANYWHERE IN CANADA, AND YOU CAN TRUST THAT WITH THE LAST TIME THE NDP WAS IN POWER AT $8,500 A YEAR GROWTH, TO A $400 LOSS IN TAKE-HOME PAY IN THE DECADE THAT JOHN HORGAN AND THE NDP WERE IN POWER. THE WAY TO KEEP LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE -- AND YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF TALK ABOUT TAXES TONIGHT -- IS NOT TO DOUBLE THE CARBON TAX, WHICH BOTH JOHN HORGAN AND Dr. WEAVER ARE PROPOSING. IT'S NOT TO ADD SURTAXES AND MORE TAXES FOR HOMEOWNERS. IT'S NOT TO ROLL MSP INTO TAXES AND CALL IT BY ANOTHER NAME. IT'S TO ELIMINATE TAXES, TO MAKE GOVERNMENT SMALLER AND PUT MORE MONEY IN YOUR WALLET, BECAUSE I THINK YOU CAN SPEND IT BETTER THAN GOVERNMENT CAN. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms. CLARK. AND OUR NEXT QUESTION ON THE ECONOMY GOES TO THE LEADER OF THE GREENS. Mr. WEAVER, YOU HAVE MADE A NUMBER OF EXPENSIVE PROMISES INCLUDING FREE DAYCARE FOR CHILDREN UNDER 3 AND EXPANSION OF EDUCATION AS WELL. ON MONDAY YOU RELEASED THE COST OF YOUR PLATFORM. THERE'S $146 MILLION DEFICIT IN THE FIRST YEAR ALONE. OUR QUESTION TO YOU IS HOW DO YOU PLAN TO PAY FOR THOSE PROMISES AND CAN BRITISH COLUMBIA AFFORD A GREEN PARTY GOVERNMENT? >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. IN OUR FULLY COSTED PLAN WE HAVE ARTICULATED THE VISION OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, A VISION TO STIMULATE THE NEW ECONOMY, A VISION TO MOVE US TO THE 21ST CENTURY. OUR PLAN IS BUDGETED TO BE BALANCED OVER THE COURSE OF THE FOUR-YEAR TERM THAT WE'RE SEEKING. THERE'S NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT MARCH THE 31ST IN ANY GIVEN YEAR, WHEN GOVERNMENT SPENDING RUNS AMOK AS MINISTRIES TRY TO GET THE MONEY OUT THE DOOR SO THEY CAN START AFRESH ON APRIL 1ST. WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S IRRESPONSIBLE GOVERNANCE AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS THINKING ABOUT BUDGETING ON THE TERM OF YOUR OFFICE. OUR PLAN IS TO ACTUALLY ASK PEOPLE WHO CAN PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE TO DO SO PROVIDED WE'RE TELLING THEM WHERE THE MONEY WOULD GO. OUR PLAN IS ALSO TO ASK CORPORATIONS TO PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND WE'RE TELLING THEM WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO GO. YOU KNOW, WE ARE MAKING PUBLIC EDUCATION OUR SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT PRIORITY. I STOOD ON THE LEGISLATURE TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO AND SAID, WE WOULD MAKE PUBLIC EDUCATION OUR TOP PRIORITY, AND WE HAVE DELIVERED. OVER $4 BILLION INVESTED IN PUBLIC EDUCATION. BUT IT'S A QUESTION OF PRIORITIES. THE PREMIER'S PRIORITIES SUPPORTED BY THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION ARE LNG. THAT'S WHY THEIR PLAN IS SO SUBSIDIZE WOOD-FIBRE LNG, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THE 100 UNION JOBS THERE, TO THE TUNE OF $440,000 A YEAR PER JOB. THAT IS RECKLESS ECONOMICS. OUR PRIORITIES ARE PEOPLE AND CHILDREN. WE BELIEVE THAT THE CITIZENSHIP IN BRITISH COLUMBIA SHARE OUR PRIORITIES, THAT WE NEED TO PUT PEOPLE FIRST RATHER THAN THE VESTED INTERESTS OF OUR CORPORATE DONORS ON THE LEFT AND THE BIG UNION DONORS ON MY RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Mr. WEAVER. >>> OUR LAST QUESTION ABOUT THE ECONOMY FROM THE CONSORTIUM GOES TO THE NDP LEADER. AND Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE COMMITTED TO RAISING TAXES FOR THOSE MAKING MORE THAN $150,000 AS WELL AS INCREASING CORPORATE TAXES. IN OTHER WORDS, ARE YOU PROMISING TO NOT RAISE ANY OTHER TAXES FOR FOUR YEARS IF YOU ARE ELECTED? >> WE TABLED A FULLY-COSTED THREE-YEAR FISCAL PLAN BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE IN THE LEGISLATURE IN FEBRUARY. WE PLAN TO ROLL BACK THE MILLIONAIRE TAX BREAK THAT CHRISTY CLARK AND THE BC LIBERALS GAVE THE WEALTHIEST PEOPLE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, A BILLION DOLLARS OVER THE TERM IN GOVERNMENT, AND GIVE SOME RELIEF TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE A YEAR AS A RESULT OF THE CHOICES THAT THE BC LIBERALS MADE. ICBC RATES, HYDRO RATES, FERRY FARES, TUITION FEES. WHEREVER YOU LOOK, WHEREVER GOVERNMENT COULD PUT THEIR HAND IN YOUR POCKET, THE BC LIBERALS HAVE DONE THAT. WE BELIEVE THAT A MODEST INCREASE IN OUR CORPORATE INCOME TAX BY 1%, WHICH WOULD MATCH ALBERTA, SASKATCHEWAN, AND MANITOBA IS REASONABLE. AND I BELIEVE THAT OUR PLAN WILL WORK TO PUT MONEY BACK IN PEOPLE'S POCKETS AND KEEP THE ECONOMY GOING. THE BC LIBERALS ON THE OTHER HAND WANT TO KEEP GIVING TO THE PEOPLE THAT GIVE TO THEM. THEIR BIG DONORS GET BREAKS WHILE THE REST OF US PAY THE PRICE. I THINK THAT'S WRONG AND I THINK BRITISH COLUMBIANS THINK THAT'S WRONG AS WELL. FOR ME, THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT GIVING PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN THEIR OWN PROVINCE, WHO WANT TO MAKE LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SERVICES THAT PEOPLE COUNT ON ARE THERE FOR THEM WHEN THEY NEED IT IN AN ECONOMY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. THAT'S NOT THE BC LIBERAL WAY. THEY TAKE ALL OF THEIR ENERGY AND PUT IT INTO THEIR BIG DONORS AND LEAVE THE REST OF US BLOWING IN THE WIND. I THINK THE TIME FOR THAT IS OVER. I THINK IN THE DAYS AHEAD, AS THIS ELECTION RUNS DOWN, THE LIBERALS WILL HAVE HAD THEIR DAY AND IT'LL BE TIME FOR THE BC NDP TO TAKE POWER AND BUILD A BETTER BC. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Mr. HORGAN. THAT BRINGS US TO LEADER DEBATE ON THE ECONOMY NOW, AND YOU HAVE HEARD EACH LEADER RAISE PLANKS IN EACH OF THEIR ECONOMIC PLATFORMS. NOW MIGHT BE A CHANCE FOR THEM TO HAMMER SOME OF THEM DOWN. THE FIRST LEADER UP IS CHRISTY CLARK. OPTED TO USE HER FIRST QUESTION TO ASK JOHN HORGAN OF THE NDP. GO AHEAD, Ms. CLARK. >> THANK YOU. Mr. HORGAN HAS FINALLY DEVELOPED AN INTEREST IN THE SOFTWOOD LUMBER AGREEMENT NOW WE ARE ON THE EVE OP AN ELECTION. SINCE BECOMING THE NDP LEADER THREE YEARS AGO, HE DIDN'T RAISE SOFTWOOD LUMBER EVEN ONCE IN THREE YEARS IN QUESTION PERIOD. WHY IS THAT, Mr. HORGAN? >> WELL, Ms. CLARK, IF YOU CAME TO QUESTION PERIOD MORE OFTEN, MAYBE I WOULD HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. BUT IT'S A BIT RICH FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN ABSENT FROM THE SOFTWOOD LUMBER DEBATE FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO NOW, 13 DAYS BEFORE AN ELECTION, TO SOMEHOW SAY SHE CARES ABOUT FOREST WORKERS. THERE ARE 30,000 FEWER FOREST WORKERS WORKING IN BRITISH COLUMBIA TODAY THAN THERE WERE WHEN THE BC LIBERALS CAME TO POWER. 150 MILLS HAVE CLOSED ON THE BC LIBERAL WATCH, AND NOW CHRISTY CLARK EXPECTS YOU TO BELIEVE HER THAT SHE CARES ABOUT THE JOBS THAT ARE AT RISK WHILE SHE WAS CHASING LNG AND NOT FOCUSSING ON OUR FOUNDATIONAL FOREST INDUSTRY, THE CONSEQUENCES COULD BE DIRE FOR FOREST COMMUNITIES AND CERTAINLY DIRE FOR FOREST WORKERS. MY COMMITMENT IS TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY SO WE CAN GET A DEAL DONE IN THE INTERESTS OF OUR FOREST SECTOR AND THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN IT. >> Mr. HORGAN, I MEAN, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVEN'T DEMONSTRATED MUCH INTEREST IN SOFTWOOD LUMBER SO FAR. THREE OF YOUR CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS ARE BEING PAID FROM PITTSBURGH FROM THE STEELWORKERS UNION. YOU HAVE TAKEN THE BIGGEST POLITICAL DONATION IN BC HISTORY FROM THE GUYS DOWN IN PITTSBURGH. THE SAME PEOPLE THAT STOOD BESIDE DONALD TRUMP WHEN HE CALLED OUR BC FOREST WORKERS A DISGRACE. I THINK WE ARE FINALLY BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU NEVER EVEN RAISED IT IN THE LEGISLATURE, NEVER ASKED ABOUT IT -- >> WE HAVE RAISED FORESTRY ISSUES FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS -- >> YOU HAVEN'T, Mr. HORGAN -- >> YOU HAVE BEEN SENDING RAW LOGS OUT OF BRITISH COLUMBIA -- >> YOU HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT THE SOFTWOOD LUMBER -- >> THOSE ARE JOBS LEAVING BRITISH COLUMBIA. YOU DID NOT GO TO WASHINGTON TO TALK TO TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. RACHEL NOTLEY DID. YOU DID NOT GO TO WASHINGTON TO DEFEND OUR INTERESTS. BRAD WALL WENT TO DEFEND THE INTERESTS OF SASKATCHEWAN. YOU HAVE BEEN ABSENT ON THE FILE, Ms. CLARK. THE DEAL EXPIRED TWO YEARS AGO. TWO YEARS AGO. AND NOW, TWO WEEKS BEFORE AN ELECTION, YOU WANT WORKERS IN -- >> I ASKED YOU A QUESTION. >> -- THAT YOU CARE ABOUT THIS QUESTION. YOU DON'T. YOU DON'T. >> I DID ASK YOU A QUESTION, WHICH IS WHY YOU RAISED IT IN THE LEGISLATURE -- >> YOU ARE NEVER THERE. >> YOU CAN ONLY ASK A QUESTION IF I'M THERE -- YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION ANY DAY YOU ARE THERE -- >> I INVITE YOU TO LOOK UP HANSARD. I KNOW YOU WOULD RATHER WATCH THE HOCKEY GAME. GO AND LOOK. THE NUMBER OF TIME WE HAVE RAISED FORESTRY IN THE -- >> HOW OFTEN HAVE YOU RAISED IT -- I HAVE GONE AND LOOKED -- >> I BET YOU HAVE. >> YOU HAVEN'T RAISED IT IN QUESTION PERIOD EVEN ONCE. AND I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT -- [ Speaking Simultaneously ]. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU FOR THAT PORTION OF THE DEBATE. THANK YOU FOR THAT PORTION OF THE DEBATE. Mr. WEAVER IS UP NEXT. HE HAS A QUESTION FOR Ms. CLARK ON THE ECONOMY, AND YOU WILL HAVE SOME TIME TO HAVE THAT QUESTION AND THEN A RESPONSE AND DEBATE BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU. >> THANK YOU. Ms. CLARK, PRIOR TO THE LAST ELECTION, YOU PROMISED A HUNDRED THOUSAND JOBS. $100 BILLION PROSPERITY FUND. A UNICORN IN EACH OF OUR YARDS FROM LNG, YET YOU FAILED TO DELIVER. WHY SHOULD BRITISH COLUMBIANS TRUST YOU TO DELIVER THIS TIME? >> WELL, I THINK MOST BRITISH COLUMBIANS WILL KNOW THAT OIL AND GAS HASN'T BEEN A GREAT GROWTH IN THE MARKET RECENTLY. ALBERTA HAS GOT ITS PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF IT. AND OUR LNG PLAN HAS GONE SLOWER THAN WE WANTED BECAUSE OF MARKET CONDITIONS. I THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WANT US TO GIVE UP. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WANT US TO WAVE THE WHITE FLAG, AND Dr. WEAVER, BOTH YOU AND Mr. HORGAN HAVE OPPOSED PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND THE MAJOR LNG PROJECTS EVERY SINGLE STEP OF THE WAY. I AM GOING TO KEEP AT IT BECAUSE I AM DETERMINED TO BUILD THAT PROSPERITY FUND FOR OUR KIDS, AND I AM DETERMINED TO CREATE THOSE JOBS FOR WORKING PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THE PROVINCE. THERE IS ONLY ONE PARTY THAT HAS A PLAN TO CUT TAXES, CREATE JOBS AND CONTROL GOVERNMENT SPENDING, AND THAT, Dr. WEAVER, IS THE PARTY THAT I REPRESENT, THE BC LIBERALS. >> Ms. CLARK, YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ON THIS FILE. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS YOU EITHER INTENTIONALLY MISLEAD OR JUST SIMPLY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND SIMPLE SUPPLY-DEMAND ECONOMICS OR YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE NEW ECONOMY. AS I STOOD IN THE LEGISLATURE, FOR YEARS, POINTING OUT THAT THIS WAS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN I RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S A BIT RICH FOR Mr. HORGAN TO CRITICIZE YOU ON LNG BECAUSE THEY WERE RIGHT BEHIND YOU, RIGHT BEHIND YOU CHEERLEADING THE WAY. AS I STOOD THERE POINTING OUT THAT THE ECONOMICS DOESN'T WORK. PEOPLE HAVE BUILT HOTELS IN TERRACE IN ANTICIPATION, PEOPLE HAVE RENOVATED HOMES IN KITIMAT IN ANTICIPATION. YOU HAVE MISLED THEM. >> NO, NO, Dr. WEAVER. WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW YOU AND THE NDP TO PUT AN END TO LNG. AS THE MARKET IMPROVES, THESE PROJECTS WILL GO AHEAD FOR BRITISH COLUMBIANS. BUT BOTH OF YOU WANT TO WAVE THE WHITE FLAG AND END THOSE JOBS AND HOPES AND DREAMS OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A REGULAR PAYCHEQUE TO LOOK AFTER THE PEOPLE THAT THEY LOVE -- >> I'M NOT SURE WHAT JOBS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, Ms. CLARK, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO JOBS. IN FACT, SO DESPERATE IS YOUR GOVERNMENT TO LAND A SINGLE LNG PROJECT, SO DESPERATE, THAT YOU ARE BUILDING THE SITE C DAM FOR A MARKET THAT DOESN'T EXIST, AT 15 CENTS -- >> DELIVER CLEAN ENERGY FOR OUR KIDS, Dr. WEAVER. >> THOSE PLANTS WHO MIGHT CHOOSE TO COME HERE FOR -- >> WE WANT TO DELIVER CLEAN ENERGY FOR OUR KIDS. >> YOU ARE SUBSIDIZING. >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE -- >> TO THE TUNE OF $440,000 PER PERSON, PER YEAR ON THE BACK OF TAXPAYERS. >> WE WANT TO CREATE -- >> OUR PRIORITY IS PEOPLE. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU FOR THAT DEBATE. Mr. HORGAN, YOU ARE UP NEXT, AND Mr. HORGAN HAS CHOSEN TO ASK Mr. WEAVER A QUESTION ABOUT THE ECONOMY IN THIS LEADER TO LEADER DEBATE. GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU. Mr. WEAVER, YOU AND YOUR SUPPORTERS SUPPORTED TWO BUDGETS TABLED IN THE BC LEGISLATURE THAT CUT SERVICES FOR KIDS AND EDUCATION, AND SENIORS AND CUT SERVICES IN HEALTH CARE. WHY WOULD YOUR SUPPORTERS WANT TO SUPPORT A PARTY THAT THINKS THAT IT'S OKAY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET ON THE BACKS OF THE VULNERABLE, THE WEAK AND THOSE WHO NEED HELP? >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, Mr. HORGAN. UNLIKE YOUR PARTY, I ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR AND I SAY REASONS WHY I VOTE FOR IT. IN ANY DECISION, IT'S ABOUT GIVE AND TAKE AND IN MY CASE, I HAVE DOCUMENTED WHY. WHAT IS A BIT RICH, ACTUALLY, FOR YOU TO HAVE THE AUDACITY TO CRITICIZING MY VOTING RECORD WHEN I SAT IN THE LEGISLATURE FOR FOUR YEARS AND WATCHED YOUR M.P. VOTE ON EVERY ISSUE COLLECTIVELY. STAND UP AND VOTING FOR INCREASING THERMAL COAL EXPANSIONS OUT OF VANCOUVER, AGAINST WHAT THEY BELIEVE, TO SEE NICK SIMONS NOT SHOWING THE ROOM BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T BEAR TO STAND UP AND VOTE. TO SEE THEM VOTE FOR THE LNG INCOME TAX ACT. IT IS A BIT RICH FOR YOU TO HAVE THE AUDACITY TO CRITICIZE MY VOTING RECORD WHICH IS TRANSPARENT AND BASED ON EVIDENCE. >> Mr. WEAVER, WHAT BRITISH COLUMBIANS HAVE BEEN TIRED OF OVER THE PAST 16 YEARS IS A BC LIBERAL GOVERNMENT THAT DOESN'T PUT THEM FIRST. AND WHEN YOUR SUPPORTERS SEE THAT YOU HAVE SUPPORTED THAT INITIATIVE, THOSE BUDGETS THAT CUT CLASSROOMS, THAT CUT RESOURCES TO EMERGENCY ROOMS, AND CUT SERVICES FOR PEOPLE, THEY HAVE TO ASK THEMSELVES, ARE THE GREENS REALLY IN THIS TO WIN THIS, OR THEY IN THIS -- >> Mr. HORGAN -- >> EVERYONE I TALK TO WANTS THE BC LIBERALS GONE -- >> Mr. HORGAN, I PROMISE TO DO POLITICS DIFFERENTLY. I RECOGNIZE AS A CAREER POLITICIAN, YOU KNOW NOTHING BUT SAYING NO AND BEING ANTAGONISTIC TO THE BC LIBERALS. WE NEED BETTER GOVERNANCE IN BC -- >> I'M AN TIG ANALYSISIC TO A GOVERNMENT THAT DOESN'T PUT PEOPLE AT THE CENTRE OF THEIR POLICIES. THE BC LIBERALS HAVE BEEN IN THIS FOR THE WEALTHY DONORS AND NOT THE PEOPLE OF BC. >> CLEARLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE BECAUSE YOUR DECISIONS ARE PUTTING YOUR BIG LABOUR INTERESTS -- >> NOT AT ALL. NOT AT ALL. WE HAVE FOCUSSED EVERY DAY ON MAKING LIFE BETTER FOR BRITISH COLUMBIANS. WE HAVE MADE THREE COMMITMENTS IN THIS ELECTION CAMPAIGN TO MAKE LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE -- >> UNCOSTED COMMITMENTS THAT ARE IRRESPONSIBLE AND WILL -- >> FULLED COSTED -- >> TWO ECONOMISTS COMING OUT CRITICIZING IT. WE HAD TWO -- >> HIRED TWOISTS -- >> THE LIBERALS HIRED TWO ECONOMISTS. >> NOT SENSIBLE. WHEREAS YOUR PLAN IS JUST SIMPLY LA-LA LAND PLAN. >> MY GOODNESS. >> MONEY GROSS ON TREES. ARE YOU GOING TO LOSE YOUR TEMPER ON ME NOW, BECAUSE YOU DID IT LAST WEEK. >> COME ON. >> THIS IS THE PROBLEM -- >> LISTEN TO ME, ANDREW, YOU LOOK LIKE THE REST OF THE POLITICIANS. PEOPLE IN THE CENTRE OF OUR POLITICS. >> WITHOUT EVER OFFER A SOLUTION. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU. NOW THAT BRINGS US TO QUESTIONS FROM THE CONSORTIUM REGARDING LEADERSHIP. HOW MUCH OF A FACTOR IS PERSONALITY OVER POLICY WHEN IT COMES TO BEING PREMIER, AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH Mr. WEAVER. Mr. WEAVER, EARLIER THIS WEEK, YOU SAID THE GREENS' STAND FOR ORDINARY PEOPLE IN COMPARISON TO THE LIBERALS' TIES TO BIG BUSINESS AND THE NDP TO BIG UNIONS, WE WANT TO ASK YOU IF THIS IS A CLOSE ELECTION, AS MANY BELIEVE IT WILL BE, YOU MAY BE IN THE POSITION OF DECIDING WHO WILL GOVERN. SO WHICH PARTY WHEN YOU SIDE WITH TO FORM GOVERNMENT? >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. IT'S DIFFICULT TO ANSWER RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE PEOPLE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA HAVE YET TO DECIDE THE OUTCOME OF THIS ELECTION. WE RESPECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA, SO WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE ELECTION OCCURS. WE HAVE AGREED AND WE HAVE PROMISED AT ALL TIMES TO WORK WITH WHOEVER FORMS GOVERNMENT, AND WE WOULD HOPE THAT IF WE FORM GOVERNMENT, THE -- MY COLLEAGUES TO MY RIGHT AND LEFT WOULD HAVE HOPED TO WORK WITH US. I PROMISE TO DO POLITICS DIFFERENTLY IN THE LEGISLATURE. I WORKED TO ENSURE THAT BILLS GOT PASSED. I RAISED ISSUES THERE THAT GOT DEALT WITH, AND YOU CAN BE EFFECTIVE IN DOING THAT IF YOU ACTUALLY TREAT YOUR COLLEAGUES WITH RESPECT. BUT WHEN YOU ARE SITTING IN THE LEGISLATURE WATCHING FOUR YEARS OF Mr. HORGAN HURLING ABUSE AT Ms. CLARK AND THEN THE MINISTERS AND HER GOVERNMENT HURLING ABUSE BACK, WHAT YOU FIND IS THAT IT'S A DIFFICULT WORK TOGETHER. SO BC GREENS ARE PUT TOGETHER AN EXCEPTIONAL SUITE OF CANDIDATES, EXCEPTIONAL SUITE OF CANDIDATES WHO ARE STEPPING ASIDE FROM THEIR CAREERS, NOT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE CAREER POLITICIANS, BUT BECAUSE OUT OF A SENSE OF CIVIC DUTY, THEY BELIEVE WE NEED TO RECLAIM OUR DEMOCRACY, RECLAIM OUR DEMOCRACY FOR THE PEOPLE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA, AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT OUR TEAM. AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE ELECTION. THERE'S A PROCESS THAT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED. YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS THAT IS FOLLOWED IS THE PARTY THAT WINS THE MOST SEATS MUST GO TO THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND SEEK THE DECISION TO FORM OR NOT FORM A GOVERNMENT. WE'LL LET THE PROCESS FORM OUT AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO Ms. CLARK AND Mr. HORGAN PHONING THE OFFICE UP AND SAYING, WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE YOU ARE THE ONE CONTROLLING THE MAJORITY OR YOU ARE IN A MAJORITY GOVERNMENT OR POSITION. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER, SIR. >>> TO THE LEADER OF THE NDP NOW, AND Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE DESCRIBED YOURSELF IN THE PAST AS MERCURIAL WHICH IS BY DEFINITION SYNONYMOUS WITH TEMPERAMENTAL, UNPREDICTABLE, VOLATILE. THE QUESTION FOR YOU IS -- AND Mr. WEAVER RAISED IT ABOUT YOUR TEMPER -- DO YOU HAVE AN ANGER MANAGEMENT ISSUE? >> OF COURSE NOT. LOOK, I'M AN IRISH DESCENDENT AND PASSIONATE. WHEN I SEE A GOVERNMENT THAT IGNORES CHILDREN IN CARE TO THE POINT WHERE THEY TAKE THEIR OWN LIVES, I GET ANGRY AND I THINK BRITISH COLUMBIANS DO AS WELL. WHEN I SEE A PREMIER FIGHT WITH TEACHERS AND MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO LEARN FOR A GENERATION OF KIDS, I GET ANGRY. I'M PASSIONATE AND FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES BUT I HAVE ALWAYS MADE IT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR IN MY CONSTITUENCY AND TO WHEREVER I HAVE TRAVELLED TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE AT THE CENTRE OF MY POLITICS AND EVERYTHING THAT I DO. I GET UP EVERY DAY TRYING TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR MY NEIGHBOURS, TRYING TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR MY COMMUNITY, AND TRY AND MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR BRITISH COLUMBIANS. THAT'S WHY I'M IN THIS ELECTION. THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT AFTER 16 YEARS OF NEGLECT, IT'S TIME TO SEND THE LIBERALS TO THE OPPOSITION BENCHES AND WE HAVE PUT FORWARD A PLATFORM THAT FOCUSES ON PEOPLE, MAKING LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE. NOT INCREASING HYDRO RATES, NOT INCREASING MSP RATES, NOT INCREASING ICBC RATES, BUT CAPPING THOSE UNTIL WE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE ABSOLUTE MESS THEY HAVE CREATED OVER THE PAST 16 YEARS. THESE CROWN CORPORATIONS ARE NOT INSTANT TELLER MACHINES FOR THE BC LIBERALS. THEY WERE CREATED IN THE PAST BY THE SO CRED GOVERNMENT AND THE NDP GOVERNMENT TO BE THERE FOR PEOPLE, NOT FOR POLITICIANS. WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT. AND YES I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Mr. HORGAN. >>> NEXT QUESTION TO Ms. CLARK ON THIS TOPIC, AND IN THE PAST YEAR AS PREMIER, THE RCMP LAUNCHED AN INVESTIGATION INTO CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS AS A RESULT OF DONATIONS TO YOUR PARTY. YOU FINALLY STOPPED TAKING A SALARY TOP-UP AFTER PRETTY BIG PUBLIC BACKLASH, AND YOU ALSO FALSELY ACCUSED THE OPPOSITION OF HACKING INTO YOUR PARTY'S WEBSITE. HOW DO YOU REPAIR BRITISH COLUMBIANS' DAMAGED TRUST IN YOU? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE THING THAT MATTERS MOST TO BRITISH COLUMBIANS IS JOBS. AND IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, WE HAVE CREATED 226,000 NEW JOBS SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE JOBS PLAN. WE ARE NUMBER ONE IN JOB CREATION IN THE COUNTRY. WE HAVE THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE COUNTRY. SURE A LOT DIFFERENT FROM THE NDP TIMES, WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT WAS DOUBLE ON VANCOUVER ISLAND. IT WAS 16% IN PLACES LIKE PRINCE GEORGE. I THINK WHAT MATTERS TO PEOPLE IS LOWER TAXES. WE ARE DELIVERING A BILLION DOLLARS IN TAX CUTS FOR PEOPLE. MORE JOBS. WE ARE NUMBER ONE IN JOB CREATION IN THE COUNTRY. AND I WOULD SAY THAT IN THESE TIMES OF RISING PROTECTIONISM IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE ELECTION OF PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, WHAT BRITISH COLUMBIA IS GOING TO NEED IS A LEADER WHO IS TOUGH BUT WHO IS CALM AND IS CONSIDERED. A LEADER WHO DOES HER HOMEWORK. WE CANNOT WIN DEALS LIKE THE SOFTWOOD LUMBER AGREEMENT AND WE CAN'T WIN THE OTHER PROTECTIONIST MEASURES THE AMERICANS ARE PROPOSING TO UNDERTAKE IF WE DON'T CONTROL OUR TEMPERS. I AM SOMEONE, YOU ARE RIGHT, IN MY TERM AS PREMIER HAS EXPERIENCED SOME CONTROVERSY, BUT I HAVE ALWAYS DONE THAT WITH THE BEST INTEREST OF PEOPLE AT HEART, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE CREATING JOBS FOR PEOPLE. I KNOW THAT IF WE LEAVE MORE MONEY IN YOUR POCKET, YOU CAN SPEND IT BETTER THAN GOVERNMENT CAN, AND I DON'T THINK GOVERNMENT SHOULD GET ANY BIGGER. THAT'S WHAT LEADERSHIP MEANS TO ME. IT MEANS REMEMBERING WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ORDINARY BRITISH COLUMBIANS, AND I HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO STICK WITH THAT. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms. CLARK. NOW THE LEADERS GET TO ASK EACH OTHER ABOUT LEADERSHIP, AND ONCE AGAIN, THERE IS A QUESTION FOLLOWED BY AN UNINTERRUPTED ANSWER, AND THEN A 90-SECOND DEBATE. SO WE BEGIN WITH Mr. WEAVER OF THE GREENS WHO HAS A QUESTION FOR Mr. HORGAN. >> YES. THANK YOU. Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE PLAYED BOTH SIDES OF THE BIG MONEY ISSUE. ATTACKING Ms. CLARK ON THE ONE HAND FOR TAKING MONEY FROM CORPORATIONS AND UNIONS AND AT THE SAME TIME ACCEPTING THEM YOURSELF. IF, AS YOU SAY, WE CAN'T TRUST HER BECAUSE OF THESE DONATIONS, HOW CAN PEOPLE TRUST YOU? >> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, AND IT GIVES ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THE VIEWERS AT HOME THAT WE, OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS IN THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION, HAVE PUT FORWARD LEGISLATION SIX TIMES TO GET BIG MONEY OUT OF POLITICS, TO BAN UNION AND CORPORATE DONATIONS, TO PUT A CAP ON INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS, TO PUT A CAP ON DONATIONS FROM OUTSIDE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA TO DO AWAY WITH THAT. THE BC LIBERALS VOTED AGAINST IT. THE BC LIBERALS WOULDN'T EVEN ALLOW DEBATE TO TAKE PLACE THE LAST TIME WE BROUGHT IT FORWARD. I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO GET BIG MONEY OUT OF POLITICS AND THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR AN NDP GOVERNMENT IS TO DO JUST THAT. IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR A GOVERNMENT, MINISTERS OF THE CROWN AND THE PREMIER, TO SIT DOWN WITH DEVELOPERS, MINING COMPANIES, AND OTHER COMPANIES, CHANGE PERMITS, ISSUE REGULATION CHANGES TO HELP THEM WITHOUT PEOPLE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA BEING PRETTY SKEPTICAL. WE NEED TO GET MONEY OUT OF POLITICS. >> YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION. YOU SPECIFICALLY STATED, WE CAN'T TRUST THE BC LIBERALS' DECISIONS BECAUSE OF THE MONEY THAT'S GOING TO THEM AND YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED WHY WE CAN TRUST YOU. WE KNOW THAT THE UNITED STEELWORKERS ARE PAYING TWO OF YOUR SENIOR CAMPAIGN DIRECTORS TO ACTUALLY RUN YOUR CAMPAIGN. WE KNOW THAT THEY CONTRIBUTED $1.7 MILLION TO YOUR CAMPAIGN LAST YEAR. WHO IS CALLING THE SHOTS ON YOUR CAMPAIGN? IS IT YOU OR IS IT THE UNITED STEELWORKERS? HOW CAN WE TRUST YOU WHEN WE RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE DON'T DONATE $1.7 MILLION TO YOUR PARTY WITHOUT AN EXPECTATION SOMEWHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING COMING BACK? >> WORKING PEOPLE IN A PROVINCE WHERE THEY HAVE SEEN 30,000 JOBS SHED IN THE FOREST INDUSTRY WANT SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO CHAMPION TO THEM. IT'S THE SAME COMMITMENT I GAVE TO THE PEOPLE AT HOME. I'M IN THIS FOR YOU. THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION IF THE NDP IS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO FORM THE GOVERNMENT, WE'RE GOING TO BAN BIG MONEY -- >> DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO. >> TO PEOPLE -- >> DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO. THE GREENS ARE PRINCIPLED. >> SIX MONTHS AGO, YOU BECAME PRINCIPLED. IN SEPTEMBER -- >> BANNED THE DONATIONS TO OUR PARTY RECOGNIZING IT WAS WRONG AND A BIT RICH FOR YOU AND YOUR PARTY TO STAND UP AND CRITICIZE THE LIBERALS FOR DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE DOING. $10,000 -- [ Speaking Simultaneously ]. >> BECAUSE TAKEN BIG PILES OF MONEY. THE ONLY WAY WE STOP THAT IS TO PUT -- >> BC LIBERALS ARE GOING TO WIN THE NEXT ELECTION? DID YOU JUST SAY THAT? >> TAKE THE BIG MONEY OUT OF POLITICS -- >> I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID THAT, JOHN. >> Jennifer: WE WILL LEAVE THAT DEBATE PORTION ON THE FLOOR FOR THE TIME BEING. Mr. HORGAN, YOU ARE UP NEXT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT TOPIC AND YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO ASK Mr. WEAVER A QUESTION REGARDING LEADERSHIP. >> THANK YOU, JENNIFER. YOUR DEPUTY LEADER HAS SAID PUBLICLY HE HAS NO PROBLEM IN SEEING FOUR MORE YEARS OF CHRISTY CLARK. I THINK THAT YOUR SUPPORTERS WHO WANT TO SEE THE END OF THIS GOVERNMENT, THE MOST CORPORATE-FUNDED GOVERNMENT IN THE HISTORY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA, WOULD BE SURPRISED BY THAT. WHY IS IT THAT IT'S OKAY FOR YOUR DEPUTY LEADER TO SAY I'M OKAY WITH THE LIBERALS WHILE YOU SAY YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE GOVERNMENT. >> IN ACTUAL FACT, Mr. HORGAN, YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO, THAT Mr. OLSEN WAS ASKED A QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO RUNNING IN A CAMPAIGN. FRANKLY, YOUR SUPPORTERS HAVE -- RATHER THAN OFFERING A VISION, RATHER THAN OFFERING A VISION FOR BRITISH COLUMBIANS TO GET BEHIND, YOU HAVE HAD 16 YEARS TO DO THAT. 16 YEARS. YOUR WHOLE NARRATIVE IS TO BE BETTER THAN THE BC LIBERALS. WELL, Mr. HORGAN, BETTER THAN REALLY BAD IS JUST PLAIN BAD AND THIS IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE. YOU DON'T OFFER PEOPLE IDEAS. YOU DON'T OFFER PEOPLE VISIONS. YOU PULL UP RHETORIC. YOU THROW IT OUT OF CONTEXT AND TO YOU -- I'M SURE YOUR PARTISAN SUPPORTERS THINK THIS IS GREAT. BUT YOU HAVE TO TELL US WHAT YOU DO. YOU FAILED TO DO SO AGAIN. YOU HAVE FAILED TO DO SO FOR 16 YEARS, WHICH IS WHY Mr. THE BC GREENS HAVE GROWING ACROSS THE PROVINCE BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE THERE FOR THEM. >> YOU KNOW FULL WELL THAT THE PEOPLE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA HAVE HAD 16 YEARS OF A BC LIBERAL GOVERNMENT THAT HAS PUT THEIR CORPORATE DONORS FIRST. THEY HAVE PUT THE PEOPLE AT THE BACK BURNER AND THE BC GREENS HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING THAT. YOU HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING THAT OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS. I THINK THE PEOPLE AT HOME WANT TO KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO BE ELECTING A GOVERNMENT THAT WILL PUT THEM FIRST. OUR PLATFORM IS THERE. BC NDP.CA FOR EVERYONE TO GO AND SEE. TALKS ABOUT MAKING LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE, THE SERVICES THAT YOU CARE ABOUT, HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, BUILDING, TRANSIT, DOING THE THINGS THAT WILL MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES STRONGER -- >> THANK YOU, Mr. HORGAN -- THANK YOU FOR READING YOUR PLATFORM OUT TO -- THE ISSUE HERE, Mr. HORGAN -- >> WE'RE OFFERING THE PUBLIC A CHANGE FROM WHAT WE HAVE HAD. >> YOU HAVE HAD 16 YEARS. >> HOPE FOR THE FUTURE. I HAVE BEEN THE LEADER FOR THREE YEARS. >> YOU HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO INSPIRE BRITISH COLUMBIANS -- [ Speaking Simultaneously ]. >> ON THE WEEKEND, AND THERE WERE A THOUSAND PEOPLE THERE -- >> THERE WEREN'T A THOUSAND PEOPLE IN THE COME DR BECAUSE -- >> YES, THERE WERE. >> YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE VICTORIA CONFERENCE CENTRE. >> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. [ Speaking Simultaneously ]. >> PEOPLE WANT TO CHANGE THE GOVERNMENT. AND YOU ARE OFFERING -- >> THAT IS NOT COSTED PROPERLY, OUTRAGEOUS AND IN FACT -- >> IT'S NOT OUTRAGEOUS -- >> LET'S LOOK AT THE EDUCATION FUND. >> IT'S THE BC LIBERAL BUDGET -- >> NOTHING THERE FOR EDUCATION. WE COMMIT $4 BILLION -- >> ON TWITTER AT 2 IN THE MORNING, YOU HAVE THE TEACHERS -- YOU ARE ON TWITTER AT 2 IN THE MORNING ATTACKING TEACHERS -- >> THERE WE GO. PERSONAL ATTACKS FROM Mr. HORGAN. >> TEACHERS TO MAKE PUBLIC EDUCATION HAPPEN. >> Jennifer: CALL FOR A TIMEOUT RIGHT NOW AND LET COOLER HEADS PREVAIL FOR JUST A COUPLE OF SECONDS. Ms. CLARK, IT IS YOUR TURN TO DIRECT LEADERSHIP QUESTIONS TO ONE OF THE OTHER LEADERS, AND YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO DIRECT IT TO Mr. WEAVER. >> THANK YOU. AND I WILL NOT DEBATE WHETHER MY RALLY IS BIGGER THAN YOUR RALLY, Dr. WEAVER. [ Laughter ] >> I DON'T WANT TO DEBATE THAT EITHER. >> YEAH. THE NDP AND THE GREENS ARE IN ALMOST COMPLETE AGREEMENT TO DOUBLE THE CARBON TAX IN JUST TWO YEARS, DEVASTATING THOUSANDS OF JOBS ALL ACROSS THE PROVINCE. WHY ARE YOU PUTTING THOSE THOUSANDS OF JOBS AT RISK, Dr. WEAVER? >> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, AND I'M VERY PLEASED THAT YOU PUT THAT. FIRST OFF, THE BC NDP HAVE -- HAVE ACTUALLY SAID THEY'LL DO $50 SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD. AS YOU KNOW, Ms. CLARK, WE BELIEVE THAT LEADERS LEAD. WE BELIEVE THAT WHEN Mr. GORDON CAMPBELL STOOD UP AND RECOGNIZED THAT CLIMATE CHANGE WAS AN ISSUE, HE RECOGNIZED IT IN EVERY CHALLENGE AS AN OPPORTUNITY, WHICH IS WHY THE LIBERALS UNDER CAMPBELL TOOK OF THE ISSUE OF RAISING THE CARBON TAX TO $30 A TONNE. DID IT ACTUALLY HURT THE ECONOMY? NO. THE BC ECONOMY OUTPERFORMED THE CANADIAN ECONOMY BECAUSE IT WAS THE EMERGING ECONOMY THAT WE TOOK OFF IN. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE CORRECT WAY. YOU ARE TRYING TO TAKE US BACK INTO THE 20TH CENTURY, CHASING JOBS THAT DON'T EXIST, SQUEEZING WATER FROM ROCKS. THE BC GREENS HAVE A VISION FOR A NEW ECONOMY THAT PUTS PEOPLE FIRST, THAT RECOGNIZES OUR STRENGTHS AND BUILDS ON THOSE. NOT CHASE THE WEAKNESSES OF OTHERS. >> Dr. WEAVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA HAS LED THE WAY AND WE CONTINUE TO LEAD THE WAY IN NORTH AMERICA. NO ONE ELSE ON THIS CONTINENT PAYS A $30 CARBON TAX ALMOST RIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD. WE ARE PROUD OF WHAT WE ARE DOING. UNITED NATIONS HAS RECOGNIZED -- >> RECOGNIZED Mr. CAMPBELL. >> NO. WHICH REMAINS -- >> RECOGNIZED Mr. CAMPBELL. YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ON CLIMATE CHANGE. >> THE REASON THE CARBON TAX HAS WORKED -- >> YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ON THIS FILE. >> WE PUT THAT MONEY BACK INTO YOUR POSHTH -- >> THIS IS WHY THE L.A. TIMES -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. HOLD ON A SECOND. HAS GONE RIGHT BACK INTO -- >> YOU ARE PUTTING SOUND BITES AND RHETORIC. NOT DEALING WITH THE ISSUE. >> IT MEANS WE HAVEN'T HURT JOBS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. MEANS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE BEING THE FASTEST -- >> BECAUSE OF THE CARBON TAX. CIRCULAR ARGUMENT. >> BECAUSE THAT REVENUE CONTROL, GOING BACK INTO CUTTING PEOPLE'S TAXES TO KEEP THE ECONOMY STRONG -- >> THE LA TIMES WROTE A SCATHING ASSESSMENT OF YOUR CLIMATE LEADERSHIP AND POINTED OUT THAT BC HAS GONE FROM LEADERS TO LAGGERS. BRITISH COLUMBIANS LOVE TO BE LEADERS. THEY WON'T WANT TO BE FOLLOWERS. LEADERS LEAD. THEY DON'T WAIT FOR OTHERS TO CATCH UP AND THEN FOLLOW THEM. BC USED TO BE A LEADER. I WAS PART OF THAT LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT SET IN PLACE THOSE POLICIES. YOU SET UP A LEADERSHIP TEAM. IGNORED THE RESULTS. Mr. HORGAN IS TAKING SOME OF THE RESULTS AND IGNORING OTHERS. >> THE UNITED NATIONS, DR. -- NOT THE LA TIMES -- HAS RECOGNIZED US AS A -- >> UNITED NATIONS RECOGNIZED Mr. CAMPBELL'S EFFORTS AND FRANKLY IT'S A BIT RICH TO TELL ME WHAT THE U.N. -- AS I SERVED ON THE U.N. PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE, NOT ONE, TWO, THREE, BUT FOUR TIMES OVER THE YEAR. >> Jennifer: THAT IS TIME. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEBATE PORTION. WE WILL CONTINUE DEBATE BETWEEN THE LEADERS BUT WE WANT TO SWITCH JUST NOW TO A LITTLE MORE FREE FORM PART OF THE DEBATE THAT WE'RE CALLING HOT TOPICS. THE CONSORTIUM CAME UP WITH A SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR EACH LEADER. ONCE AGAIN HAVE 1:30 TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. NO DEBATE AGAIN ON THESE PARTICULAR QUESTIONS BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR CONCISE AND DIRECT ANSWERS. WE'LL BEGIN WITH Mr. HORGAN. YOU ARE ON THE RECORD AS BEING OPPOSED TO KINDER MORGAN EXPANSION, AGAINST THE SITE C DAM PROJECT AS WELL AS AGAINST THE CURRENT PROPOSAL TO REPLACE THE MASSEY TUNNEL WITH A BRIDGE. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE COUNTING ON THOSE SPECIFIC JOBS? >> CERTAINLY THE KINDER MORGAN EXPANSION IS NOT IN THE INTEREST OF BRITISH COLUMBIA. A SEVEN-FOLD INCREASE IN TANKER TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF OUR MAJOR METROPOLITAN CENTRE, THROUGH THE GULF ISLANDS UP THE STRAIT OF JUAN DE FUCA IS NOT IN THE INTEREST OF OUR PEOPLE, ECONOMY OUR ENVIRONMENT. SITE C, I BELIEVE THAT EVERY PROJECT THAT BC HYDRO HAS DONE SINCE THE 1980s HAS HAD TO GO TO OUR INDEPENDENT BC UTILITIES COMMISSION TO GET INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT AND APPROVAL AND CROSS-EXAMINATION OF WHERE BC HYDRO'S PROCEEDING. CHRISTY CLARK SAID NO TO THAT AND IS RAMMING THROUGH A NINE, TEN, $11 BILLION DAM WITHOUT ANYONE SAYING IT'S A GOOD IDEA EXCEPT BC LIBERALS. I DON'T THINK IT'S ACCEPTABLE PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT HYDRO RATES HAVE GONE UP 87% ON THE LIBERALS' WATCH. WE HAVE OTHER THINGS WE CAN INVEST IN THAT ARE CHEAPER AND SERVE US BETTER IN THE LONG TERM. WHEN IT COMES TO THE MASSEY BRIDGE, I WANT TO FOLLOW THE TEN-YEAR PLAN OF THE MAYOR TO BUILD TRANSPORTATION IN THE LOWER MAINLAND, AND EVERY MAYOR IN THE REGION, SAVE ONE, THINKS THAT THE MASSEY TUNNEL REPLACEMENT IS NOT THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM. WE NEED TO DEAL WITH CONGESTION THERE BUT WE HAVE MORE PRESSING ISSUES. THE PATTULLO BRIDGE IS PAST THE LIFE CYCLE IN FIVE YEARS IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AND THE LIBERALS HAVE ARED THAT. THEY HAVE GONE FORWARD -- IGNORED -- WITH A PLAN THAT NO ONE ELSE IN THE REGION SUPPORTS EXCEPT THEM. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER SOLUTIONS TO MEET OUR TRANSPORTATION CHALLENGING. >> Jennifer: Mr. WEAVER, YOUR QUESTION IS THIS: YOU HAVE COME OUT WITH A COMPREHENSIVE POLICY PLATFORM AND YOU ARE RUNNING CANDIDATES IN EVERY ALMOST EVERY RIDING. WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR CHANCES ARE OF FORMING GOVERNMENT AND WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO MAY THINK A VOTE FOR THE GREEN PARTY IS ACTUALLY A WASTED VOTE. >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND I DO APPRECIATE IT. LOOK, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST ELECTION, THE PARTY THAT WON THE LAST ELECTION WAS NOT THE BC LIBERALS. IT WAS THE NON-VOTER. 45% OF BRITISH COLUMBIANS. THAT'S ALMOST ONE IN TWO BRITISH COLUMBIANS DIDN'T BOTHER TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT INSPIRED TO VOTE. THE BC GREENS OFFER PEOPLE SOMETHING TO VOTE FOR, NOT VOTE AGAINST. I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO VOTE BC LIBERAL. NOT BECAUSE THEY LIKE WHAT THEY STAND FOR, BUT THEY ARE SCARED ABOUT WHAT THE BC NDP STAND FOR. I KNOW THERE'S A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO VOTE BC NDP. NOT BECAUSE THEY LIKE WHAT THEY STAND FOR. BECAUSE THEY FEAR THEM AND DISLIKE WHAT THE BC LIBERALS STAND FOR. I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CHECK OUT OUR PLATFORM, BCGREENS.CA, BECAUSE OUR FUTURE IS YOUR HANDS. IF YOU COME OUT AND VOTE, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. YOU KNOW, THIS QUESTION COULD HAVE BEEN POSED TO Mr. SILVER IN YUKON, WHO HAD ONE SEAT GOING INTO THE LAST YUKON ELECTION AND CAME OUT WITH A MAJORITY GOVERNMENT. OR RACHEL NOTLEY, WHO CAME OUT WITH A MAJORITY GOVERNMENT. THIS QUESTION COULD HAVE BEEN POSED TO Mr. TRUDEAU, WHO HAD 33 I BELIEVE SEATS AND THIRD PLACE AND CAME OUT WITH A STRONG MAJORITY OF GOVERNMENT. IT IS PRESUMPTIONOUS TO THINK THAT ANYONE OWNS A VOTE. OUR FUTURE IS IN YOUR HANDS. IF YOU VOTE FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN INSTEAD OF THE FEAR MONGERING TACTICS PARTICULARLY FROM Mr. HORGAN, RATHER THAN INSPIRING A VOTER WITH A VISION THEY CAN GET BEHIND ESSENTIALLY RUNS THE NARRATIVE YOU HAVE GOT TO VOTE FOR US BECAUSE YOU ARE BETTER THAN THE BC LIBERALS. BETTER THAN REALLY BAD IS STILL BAD. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU. Ms. CLARK, YOU ARE OFTEN TOUTING THE ECONOMIC SUCCESS OF THE PROVINCE. YET BC STILL HAS THE HIGHEST CHILD POVERTY RATES IN THE COUNTRY. WELFARE RATES HADN'T RISEN IN TEN YEARS. HOW CAN YOU BRAG ABOUT THE ECONOMY WHEN IT APPEARS SO MANY HAVE BEEN LEFT BEHIND? >> WE HAVE REDUCED CHILD POVERTY BY 50% IN BRITISH COLUMBIA AND WE NEED TO DO MUCH MORE, AND IN A PROVINCE THAT'S GOT THE FASTEST RATE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH, 226,000 JOBS SINCE WE INTRODUCED THE JOBS PLAN, OVER 90% OF THEM FULL-TIME JOBS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING PEOPLE IN FINDING THEIR WAY INTO WORK. THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN LOOK AFTER THE ONES THAT THEY LOVE. BEING ON SOCIAL ASSISTANCE ISN'T A GREAT LONG-TERM ANSWER FOR ANYBODY. AND I KNOW THAT MOST PEOPLE ON SOCIAL ASSISTANCE DO WANT TO FIND THEIR WAY INTO THE WORKFORCE. WE HAVE DONE A NUMBER OF THINGS, IN PARTICULAR SUPPORTING SINGLE PARENTS -- MOST OF THEM MOMS, BUT SOME OF THEM DADS -- WE PAY TUITION, CHILDCARE, BOOKS, TRANSPORTATION, AND WE WILL SUPPORT YOU FINDING THAT SKILLS TRAINING THAT YOU NEED TO GET OFF SOCIAL ASSISTANCE AND INTO A JOB BECAUSE I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT THE BEST WAY TO ALLEVIATE POVERTY AND THE REASON WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE IT BY 50% FOR CHILDREN IN BRITISH COLUMBIA IS BECAUSE WE CREATE JOBS FOR PEOPLE. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE THE TRAINING TO TAKE THOSE JOBS AND THAT ONCE THEY GET A JOB, THAT THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO GET A BETTER JOB AND THAT THEIR CHILDREN HAVE A CHANCE TO GET A JOB. BOTH THE NDP AND THE GREENS HAVE A BIG PLAN TO KILL JOBS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. I'D LIKE THE CHANCE TO KEEP LEADING IN CREATING JOBS AND MAKING SURE WE STAY NUMBER ONE. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms. CLARK. MOVE TO THE SECOND PART OF HOT TOPICS AND THAT'S A CHANCE FOR THE LEADERS THEMSELVES TO ASK ANOTHER LEADER ANY QUESTION THEY CHOOSE, NO HOLDS BARRED. 15 SECONDS TO ASK THE QUESTION. 45 UNINTERRUPTED SECONDS TO REPLY AND THEN THE TWO LEADERS WILL DEBATE THE ISSUE FOR AN ENTIRE MINUTE AND A HALF. THE FIRST LEADER TO LEADER HOT TOPIC QUESTION GOES TO Mr. HORGAN, WHO HAS CHOSEN TO DIRECT HIS QUESTION TO LIBERAL LEADER CHRISTY CLARK. Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU. AFTER 16 YEARS OF ILLEGAL CUTS TO PUBLIC EDUCATION AFTER THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT YOUR CHOICES AS MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND YOUR CHOICES AS PREMIER WERE AGAINST THE LAW, YOU HAVE NEVER APOLOGIZED TO THE KIDS THAT LOST A GENERATION OF EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY, YOU NEVER APOLOGIZED TO THEIR PARENTS, TO TEACHERS. WILL YOU DO THAT TODAY? WILL YOU APOLOGIZE TO THE KIDS, THE GENERATION THAT YOU STOLED? >> THANK YOU FOR THE KWECHLT I'M GLAD TO GET -- QUESTION. I'M GLAD TO TALK ABOUT EDUCATION BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT INVESTMENT WE CAN MAKE. IT'S INVESTING IN OUR FUTURE. I THINK HOW MANY PARENTS COME TO BRITISH COLUMBIA MAKING TREMENDOUS SACRIFICES, WE OWE IT TO THEM TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE BEST EDUCATION POSSIBLE FOR THEIR CHILDREN. THE NDP PLAN DOESN'T INCLUDE A NEW PENNY FOR EDUCATION. THEY MUST THINK THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT. AND OUR KIDS IN BC ARE NUMBER ONE IN READING IN INTERNATIONAL COMPARISONS AROUND THE WORLD, NUMBER TWO IN SCIENCE, NUMBER SIX IN MATH, AND AS A RESULT OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE CAME TO WITH THE BCTF, WE ARE ADDING JUST ABOUT 3,000 TEACHERS TO KLOPPS WHICH I THINK WILL MAKE IT EVEN BETTER -- CLASSROOM -- >> YOU SHORTCHANGED AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF KIDS FROM KINDERGARTEN THROUGH GRADE 1 THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORTS IN CLASSROOMS THEY DESERVED, NO SPECIALIST TEACHERS, NO TEACHER LIBRARIANS, AND NO COUNSELLORS. KIDS COULDN'T GET ASSESSMENTS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. YOU ARE ONLY YOUNG ONCE, Ms. CLARK, AND YOU STOLE A GENERATION OF KIDS BECAUSE OF YOUR BULL HEADED ON PUBLIC EDUCATION -- >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WRONG -- >> ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE. >> THE THING IS THAT -- I MEAN, THAT PUTS THE LIGHT TO THAT IS THE FACT THAT OUR KIDS ARE NUMBER ONE IN INTERNATIONAL COMPARISONS -- >> DESPITE YOUR GOVERNMENT, Ms. CLARK. DESPITE YOUR GOVERNMENT. BECAUSE OF THE PROFESSIONALISM OF THE TEACHERS IN THIS GREAT PROVINCE. >> THAT'S PRETTY GOOD -- >> THE SUPREME COURT TOOK 15 MINUTES -- >> HOLD ON A SECOND. >> 15 MINUTES TO TELL YOU YOU WERE WRONG. >> WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO -- >> YOU CAN'T APOLOGIZE FOR ANYTHING, CAN YOU. YOU CAN NEVER TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. >> THE NDP HASN'T PROMISED A SINGLE NEW PENNY FOR EDUCATION IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. >> YOU CAN'T APOLOGIZE FOR ANYTHING -- NEVER ACCOUNTABLE, NEVER RESPONSIBLE -- THAT'S THE LIBERAL WAY. >> THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN -- WE ARE MAKING -- >> PARENTS FORCED TO FUNDRAISE FOR TEXTBOOKS. YOUR LEGACY. >> WE ARE MAKING THAT INVESTMENT -- >> FORCED TO MAKE -- >> WE ARE NEED TO KEEP DOING BETTER. SO WE CAN STAY AHEAD AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT IN KIDS. >> FUNDRAISING FOR TEXTBOOKS. THAT'S THE BC LIBERAL PUBLIC EDUCATION LEGACY. >> Jennifer: I NEED TO STOP YOU THERE. OUT OF TIME FOR THAT PORTION OF THE DEBATE. OUR NEXT LEADER ASKING A QUESTION OF THEIR CHOOSING IS GREENS' LEADER ANDREW WEAVER, WHO IS DIRECTING HIS QUESTION TO Mr. HORGAN. Mr. ANDREW WEAVER, YOU MAY GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THIS. Mr. HORGAN, YOU MADE A PROMISE TO ABOLISH MSP PREMIUMS YET YOU AND YOUR CANDIDATES KEEP CHANGING YOUR POSITION HOW YOU WILL PAY FOR IT. HOW CAN BRITISH COLUMBIANS TRUST THAT YOUR LEADERSHIP, WHEN YOU PROMISED -- WHEN YOU WON'T TAKE A CLEAR STAND ON A MAJOR PROMISE YOU HAVE MADE? >> I HAVE BEEN CRYSTAL CLEAR ON THE PREMIUMS RIGHT FROM THE START. WE ARE THE ONLY PROVINCE IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAS THEM AND OVER THE PAST 16 YEARS, THE BC LIBERALS HAVE DOUBLED THEM. EVERY YEAR FROM 2008 UNTIL THIS YEAR, 4% INCREASE EVERY JANUARY. AND THE BC LIBERALS REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS WAS A PROBLEM UNTIL THEY WERE, AGAIN, DRAGGED KICKING AND SCREAMING. OUR PLAN IS TO ELIMINATE HALF OF THE PREMIUMS BY JANUARY 2018 AND PUT IN PLACE A BLUE RIBBON PANEL TO LOOK AT THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE COLLECTION OF MSP AND ELIMINATE BY THE END OF OUR FIRST TERM. THAT'S YOUR COMMITMENT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. >> WELL, MAY I PROCEED? >> Jennifer: YES. DEBATE AGAIN. >> THANK YOU. THAT MIGHT BE FINE AND DANDY, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE BASICALLY SAYING THEN THAT YOU HAVE A PLAN -- TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO COME UP WITH A PLAN. >> CORRECT. CORRECT. >> HOW CAN WE TRUST -- YOU HAVE A PLAN TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO COME UP WITH A PLAN, YET YOU STOOD BEFORE PEOPLE AND HAVE TOLD BRITISH COLUMBIANS YOU ARE GOING TO ELIMINATE MSP -- >> IN THE TERM -- YOU SAID EARLIER -- >> COULD I ACTUALLY GET SOME WORDS IN. YOUR FINANCE CRITIC SAID YOU WOULD INTRODUCE A PROGRESSIVE SYSTEM -- >> YOU SAID EARLIER THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO BALANCE OVER YOUR CYCLE OF TIME IN GOVERNMENT. WHAT IS IT OKAY FOR YOU TO SAY THAT BUT NOT OKAY FOR ME TO SAY THAT? >> IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO SAY THAT, Mr. HORGAN, BUT YOU HAVE SAID SO MANY THINGS -- >> WHY DOES IT ONLY BELONG TO YOU? [ Speaking Simultaneously ]. >> IT'S IN THE PLATFORM, I HAVE JUST SAID IT AGAIN. WE'RE GOING TO CUT THE PREMIUMS IN HALF IN JANUARY AND WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE THEM AT THE END OF THE FIRST TIME OF AN NDP -- >> AND THEN HAVE A PANEL TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO HAVE A PLAN AND HAVE A PLAN. TYPICAL NDP PLAN. >> YOU SAY YOU WANT TO HAVE A FOUR-YEAR PLAN AND THAT'S OKAY FOR YOU. IF SOMEONE ELSE SAYS THAT, THAT'S NOT OKAY. >> WE HAVE ARTICULATED PRECISELY HOW WE WILL ELIMINATE THE MSP, BY FOLLOWING THE ONTARIO MODEL. I WAS THE FIRST TO RAISE THIS IN THE LEGISLATURE -- >> THE FIRST? THE FIRST, Mr. WEAVER -- >> 50,000 PEOPLE -- AND GOT BOTH PARTIES HERE. THE BC GREENS GOT BOTH PARTIES. >> ELIMINATED IN THE FIRST TERM OF AN NDP GOVERNMENT. MSP WILL BE ELIMINATED IN THE FIRST TERM OF THE NDP GOVERNMENT. >> WE CAN MAKE POLITICS HAPPEN HERE IN BC. >> OH, MY GOODNESS. >> GOING TO GET MAD AT ME NOW TOO? >> COME ON, MAN. >> Jennifer: LET'S KEEP THIS RESPECTFUL, SHALL WE? LAST OF THE OPEN DEBATE QUESTIONS NOW. LIBERAL LEADER CHRISTY CLARK HAS A QUESTION FOR Mr. HORGAN. GO AHEAD. >> INDEPENDENT ECONOMISTS HAVE VERIFIED THAT Mr. HORGAN'S ECONOMIC PLAN IS COMPLETELY UNAFFORDABLE FOR THE PEOPLE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA RESULTING IN HIGHER TAXES AND HUGE DEFICITS. WHY ARE YOU PUTTING Mr. HORGAN, OUR KIDS, INTO A CRATER OF DEBT TO TUNE OF $6 BILLION? >> FIRST OF ALL, Ms. CLARK, INDEPENDENT ECONOMISTS AREN'T INDEPENDENT WHEN THE BC LIBERALS HIRE THEM TO DO THE ANALYSIS, AND THEY DID AN ANALYSIS INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH ON THE FISCAL PLAN THAT THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE TABLED IN THE LEGISLATURE BACK IN FEBRUARY. WE TOOK THE NUMBERS THAT YOU PUT BEFORE THE PUBLIC AND THEN RAN OFF TO SPEND PUBLIC MONEY CAMPAIGNING, SPENDING TAX DOLLARS ON $20 MILLION WORTH OF ADS ON TELEVISION. WE TOOK THOSE NUMBERS AND WE MADE DIFFERENT CHOICES. WE MADE CHOICES FOR PEOPLE. WE MADE CHOICES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SERVICES THAT PEOPLE DEPEND ON AND THEY CARE ABOUT WERE THERE FOR THEM. THAT'S OUR PLAN BASED ON THE NUMBERS YOUR FINANCE MINISTER TABLED, YOU HIRE SOMEONE TO DO AN ANALYSIS, THEY ARE NOT INDEPENDENT ANYMORE, Ms. CLARK, THEY ARE EMPLOYEES. YOU HIRED TWO PEOPLE FROM ONTARIO TO DO A HATCHET JOB ON THE PLAN THAT WE EMBRACED THAT WAS TABLED BY YOUR FINANCE MINISTER. >> Mr. HORGAN, IT'S A $6 BILLION PLAN. YOU HAVE GOT MSP, WHICH YOU ARE GOING TO CALL HIGHER TAXES, JUST BY ANOTHER NAME -- >> Ms. CLARK, YOU HAVE DOUBLED THOSE PREMIUMS OVER THE PAST -- >> THEY ARE AT 1993 LEVELS. >> NO CREDIBILITY. THEY ARE NOT. >> YES, THEY ARE -- >> THEY ARE GOING TO CHANGE IN JANUARY. THIS IS A TYPICAL BC LIBERAL PROMISE. >> HANG ON. >> WE'LL DO SOMETHING FOR YOU AFTER THE ELECTION. EVERYTHING YOU DO, Ms. CLARK, IS PREDICATED ON WINNING AN ELECTION, NOT ON GOVERNING FOR THE PEOPLE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA. >> WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO BE ABLE TO TALK, BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE WANT -- >> PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YOU STAND FOR, Ms. CLARK, AND THAT'S WHY THEY WANT YOU GONE. >> THE BC LIBERALS PLAN IS $6 BILLION IN NEW SPENDING THAT HAS TO COME -- NDP -- >> THEY HAVE ACCOUNTED IT IN THE FISCAL PLAN THAT WE TABLED TWO WEEKS AGO. >> IT WILL BE IN HIGHER TAXES AND DEFICITS THAT OUR KIDS ULTIMATELY HAVE TO PAY AS THE DEBT -- >> BALANCING IN YEAR ONE, TWO, THREE -- >> Mr. HORGAN, YOU INTRODUCED YOUR GOVERNMENT -- YOUR GOVERNMENT INTRODUCED EIGHT CONSECUTIVE -- >> IT WASN'T MY GOVERNMENT. IT'S 2017, Ms. CLARK. >> OUR GOVERNMENT HAS INTRODUCED -- >> PEOPLE AT HOME WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR THEM TOMORROW? THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN. >> THAT'S NOT TRUE. I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR THEIR KIDS AND MAKE SURE THEIR KIDS HAVE A GREAT FUTURE. >> TOMORROW. TOMORROW. >> I THINK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SACRIFICE TO LOOK AFTER THEIR KIDS DON'T JUST WANT TO KNOW ABOUT TOMORROW. I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE LONG-TERM FUTURE -- >> THAT'S TOMORROW, Ms. CLARK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- >> THAT MEANS MAKING SURE THAT WE RELIEVE THEM OF DEBT AS MUCH AS WE CAN, THAT WE KEEP TAXES LOW AND CREATE JOBS FOR THEM. >> TIME IS UP. >> Jennifer: TIME IS UP. YOU ARE CORRECT. A SPIRITED DEBATE. BOTH LOOKED INVESTED. I THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE YOU A FEW EXTRA SECONDS. >> I'M SORRY. >> Jennifer: NOT AT ALL. THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING THE TIME. >> UNBELIEVABLE. UNBELIEVABLE. >> Jennifer: FASCINATING TO LISTEN TO. >> JUST LOVE TALKING. >> Jennifer: NO, NO, THAT'S FINE. >>> LET'S MOVE ON TO QUESTIONS FROM THE VIEWERS AND LISTENERS. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE RECEIVED SOME 1,300 SUBMISSIONS AND WE WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME. BUT WE WERE ONLY TABLE TO USE A SELECT FEW, OBVIOUSLY. SO IN THIS ROUND, THINGS WILL SPEED UP A LITTLE BIT. EACH LEADER WILL RESPOND TO THE QUESTION WITH A 45-SECOND OR LESS ANSWER. SO HERE WE GO. OUR FIRST QUESTION IS ABOUT THE SOFTWOOD LUMBER TARIFF ANNOUNCED BY THE UNITED STATES. VERN RAT CLIFF OF COURTENAY ASKED THIS: WHAT DO YOU INTEND TO DO TO HELP THE BACKBONE OF THIS PROVINCE WITH A 20% TARIFF ON SOFTWOOD LUMBER? CHRISTY CLARK STARTS US OFF FOLLOWED BY ANDREW WEAVER AND THEN JOHN HORGAN. >> 60,000 PEOPLE DEPEND ON IT, ON FOREST INDUSTRY. 140 COMMUNITIES. JOHN HORGAN HASN'T RAISED IT ONCE IN QUESTION PERIOD IN THE LEGISLATURE. I AM GOING TO FIGHT FOR JOBS. I AM GOING TO STAND TOE TO TOE. I'M GOING TO BE TOUGH. I WILL BE STRONG, AND I WILL BE CALM AND RESILIENT IN MAKING SURE THAT WE GET THE BEST, FAIREST DEAL FOR BRITISH COLUMBIA WHEN IT COMES TO SOFTWOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW WHY -- WHY Mr. HORGAN TURTLED WHEN IT CAME TO SOFTWOOD. IT'S BECAUSE HE IS TAKING HIS ORDERS FROM THE UNION IN PITTSBURGH THAT IS FIGHTING FOR AMERICAN JOBS AND STANDING BESIDE DONALD TRUMP WHEN HE -- WHEN HE CALLS OUR FOREST WORKERS A DISGRACE. WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK AND TO FIGHT FOR YOU. I HAVE A RECORD OF FIGHTING FOR JOBS IN OUR PROVINCE. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO SOFTWOOD. AND I WANT PEOPLE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES AND OUR VIEWER TONIGHT TO KNOW WE HAVE GOT YOUR BACK. >> Jennifer: GO AHEAD, Mr. WEAVER. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS LOOMING ISSUE FOR TWO YEARS NOW. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED IS THIS GOVERNMENT HAS NOT GONE TO OTTAWA TO RAISE THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE, TO GET NEGOTIATIONS HAPPENING EARLY, COLLECTIVELY, PROVINCE-WIDE, CANADA-WIDE. YOU KNOW, OUR RECOGNITION IS THAT THE RESOURCES IN BRITISH COLUMBIA ARE OWNED BY THE PEOPLE. THEY ARE NOT OWNED BY MULTINATIONALS. THIS GOVERNMENT'S APPROACH HAS TO GIVE -- HAS BEEN TO GIVE TIMBER LOT LICENCES TO MULTINATIONALS. FIVE COMPANIES OWN VIRTUALLY ALL THE LOTS HERE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA AND THEY ARE BUYING UP SAW MILLS IN THE STATES STATES TO SHIP RAW LOGS TO THE STATES TO BE MILLED THERE. WE NEED TO LOOK HARD AT THE LICENSING PROJECT BECAUSE WE BELIEVE BC COMPANIES, BC PEOPLE SHOULD BE PUT FIRST, NOT THE MULTINATIONALS WHO ARE BASED ELSEWHERE. >> Jennifer: Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU, JENNIFER. I HAVE WORKED IN THE FOREST INDUSTRY. I REPRESENT A FORMER FORESTRY COMMUNITY THAT NO LONGER IS A FORESTRY COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE LOGS ARE LEAVING THE COMMUNITY AND GOING OFFSHORE. THAT'S THE BC LIBERAL LEGACY. Ms. CLARK HAD TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO STAND UP FOR FOREST WORKERS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA AND SHE CHOSE NOT TO. SHE COULD HAVE GONE TO WASHINGTON LIKE THE PREMIER OF ALBERTA AND THE PREMIER OF SASKATCHEWAN, TO DEFEND OUR INTERESTS AGAINST A PROTECTIONIST ADMINISTRATION. SHE CHOSE NOT TO. MY COMMITMENT TO FOREST WORKERS AND PEOPLE DEPENDING ON A DEAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO THRIVE AND PROSPER WITH OUR RENEWABLE RESOURCE SO MAKE SURE I'M WORKING ON IT EVERY SINGLE DAY, MAKE SURE I HAVE YOUR BACK, FIGHTING FOR YOUR AND FIGHTING FOR A DEAL FOR BRITISH COLUMBIA'S FOUNDATIONAL INDUSTRY. IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO ME AND BRITISH COLUMBIANS. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL MOVE ON TO YOUR NEXT QUESTION NOW. AND IT IS REGARDING THE FENTANYL CRISIS. IT'S FROM JACQUES MAREUX IN VANCOUVER. HIS QUESTION IS: MY FAMILY TEMPORARILY MOVED TO CHINATOWN IN FROM POINT GREY, GROUND ZERO OF THE OPIOID CRISIS. EVERY TIME WE HEAR A SIREN, WE THINK SOMEONE ELSE HAS DIED. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM? ANDREW WEAVER WILL START OFF BY US, FOLLOWED BY JOHN HORGAN AND CHRISTY CLARK. Mr. WEAVER. >> THANK YOU FOR THE KWECHLT IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THIS PROBLEM HAS THREE ASPECTS TO IT. NUMBER ONE IS THE ISSUE OF PREVENTION. NUMBER TWO, HARM REDUCTION AND NUMBER THREE, THE PATHWAY TO RECOVERY. THE BC GREENS RECOGNIZE AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS WORTH A POUND OF CURE. WE HAVE MADE A PROMISE TO INVEST $4 BILLION IN OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE HAVE A GENERATION OF CHILDREN WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THE SYSTEM, WHO HAD THOSE SERVICES TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM. THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES. THEY CAN'T GET ASSESSED AND PROBLEMS DEVELOP IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE SERVICES WHEN CHILDREN ARE YOUNG. THE HARM REDUCTION IS ACTUALLY BEING DEALT WITH WELL BY THE BC LIBERALS BUT WE ALSO NEED A PATHWAY TO RECOVERY AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE INVESTING AND CREATING A SEPARATE MINISTRY OF ADDICTIONS AND MENTAL HEALTH TO PULL THAT OUT OF THE HEALTH CARE BUDGET TO ENSURE THAT REMAINS A PRIORITY FOR US. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Mr. WEAVER. Mr. HORGAN? >> THANK YOU. I WAS AT A TOWN HALL MEETING LAST WEEK IN VICTORIA WHEN A MOTHER AND FATHER ASKED ME WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO AS A LEGACY FOR THEIR DAUGHTER WHO DIED AS A RESULT OF THE OPIOID CRISIS? 900 OTHER FAMILIES HAD THE SAME QUESTION FOR GOVERNMENTS, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS A CRITICALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE BC NDP GOVERNMENT THERE'S A CHAMPION WHO GETS UP EVERY SINGLE DAY AND MAKES SURE THAT MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTIONS ISSUES ARE AT THE FRONT OF THEIR AGENDA. THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO SUCCESS. THIS IS A MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTIONS CRISIS HAPPENING IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. AND WE NEED TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION. SAFE INJECTION SITES IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE SURE FENTANYL IS NOT COMING IN THE COUNTRY, AND WORKING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND USING THE MONEY OFFERED. IT'S SITTING IN AN ENVELOPE SOMEWHERE WAITING FOR ACTION. WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION NOW. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Mr. HORGAN. AND NOW THE QUESTION GOES TO CHRISTY CLARK. >> THANKS TO JACQUES FOR THE QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS SOMETHING THAT MANY, MANY, MANY PEOPLE ACROSS THE PROVINCE ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT. I'M A MOTHER. I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT TOO. AND I -- I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE REALLY ABOVE POLITICS. NOT THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THEM IN DEBATES. WE SHOULD. BUT WE SHOULDN'T PLAY POLITICS WITH THAT. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR LIVES. OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE SO FAR, OR ABOUT A THOUSAND PEOPLE SO FAR, HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES TO OPIOIDS. WE ARE LEADING THE CONTINENT IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS SPENT ON SUPPORTING PEOPLE, FINDING THEIR WAY TO RECOVERY AND SAVING LIVES. AND I KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE THINK, WELL, WHY YOU HELPING PEOPLE WHO PUT DRUGS IN THEIR BODY; NOBODY USE DRUGS. BUT WE SHOULD REMEMBER THAT EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT DIED IS LOVED BY SOMEBODY AND THEY DESERVE OUR HELP. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms. CLARK. WE WILL CHANGE GEARS SLIGHTLY. OUR NEXT QUESTION IS ONE FROM JACKLIN MURRAY IN DELTA AND THIS IS ONE OF MANY WHO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT POLLING AND TRAFFIC GRIDLOCK AND DRIVING IN THIS PROVINCE. SHE WANTED TO KNOW WHY JUST A FEW CROSSINGS HAVE TOLLS, AND SHE ASKS, IF IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO HAVE MINIMAL TOLLS ON ALL CROSSINGS. JOHN HORGAN STARTS OFF FOLLOWED BY Ms. CLARK AND THEN Mr. WEAVER. >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE ELIMINATING THE TOLLS ON THE PORTMAN AND THE GOLDEN EARS BRIDGE TO STOP THE CONGESTION MOVING TO THE PATTULLO BRIDGE AND ALEX FRASER. PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO CROSS THE RIVER; THEREFORE THEY ARE GOING TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS. THE LIBERALS BUILT A FOUR AND A HALF BILLION BRIDGE AND EXPECTED ONE GROUP OF CITIZENS TO PAY FOR IT. WE'RE NOT PAYING TOLLS ON THE SEA-TO-SKY HIGHWAY, ON THE NEW BRIDGE IN KELOWNA. I BELIEVE THAT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE BELONGS TO ALL BRITISH COLUMBIANS. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A COHERENT PLAN TO BUILD FOR THE NEXT GENERATION AND WE HAVE A CAPITAL PLAN THAT WILL PUT 96,000 PEOPLE TO WORK, BUILDING NEW TRANSIT, NEW INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE LOWER MAINLAND AND RIGHT ACROSS BRITISH COLUMBIA. I THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMY. IT'S GOOD FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT AS WELL. >> Jennifer: Ms. CLARK. >> THANK YOU. BUT I SHOULD ADD, Mr. HORGAN HAS OPPOSED ALMOST EVERY OTHER PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT'S GOTTEN UNDERWAY SINCE HE HAS BEEN IN THE LEGISLATURE INCLUDING THE REPLACEMENT FOR THE GEORGE MASSEY BRIDGE, THE PORT MANN BRIDGE, SITE C, AND THE SEA-TO-SKY HIGHWAY. ON THE TOLL PLAN, OUR PARTY IS THE ONLY ONE WITH A FULLY COSTED, BELIEVABLE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SUPPORT PEOPLE MAKING FREQUENT COMMUTE, IN MAKING LIFE A BIT MORE AFFORDABLE. UP TO ABOUT $1,100 SAVINGS BY CAPPING TOLLS AT $500. THE NDP PLAN IS TO LOOT THE PROSPERITY FUND, OUR CHILDREN'S INHERITANCE OF $500 MILLION AND THEN AFTER, THAT TAX EVERYBODY IN BRITISH COLUMBIA TO PAY FOR TOLLS DOWN IN THE LOWER MAINLAND. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GO. >> Jennifer: AND Mr. WEAVER, YOUR RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION FROM OUR VIEWER. >> YES. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH POLITICS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. ON THE ONE HAND, JUST BEFORE AN ELECTION, YOU HAVE THE NDP TRYING TO BUY VOTES. ON THE OTHER HAND YOU HAVE THE BC LIBERALS TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING. WE RECOGNIZE THOSE TOLLS WERE PUT IN PLACE FOR A REASON. GOOD PUBLIC POLICY ENSURES THAT YOU ACTUALLY USE YOUR -- THE TOOLS YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE YOU ARE DEVELOPING, TO ACTUALLY ENSURE THAT -- WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF THE CARS. THAT'S WHY THE GREEN APPROACH IS TO INVEST HEAVILY IN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. WE WILL BE MEETING THE MAYORS' TEN-YEAR PLAN BECAUSE THAT IS THE REAL ISSUE. PEOPLE CANNOT GET OUT OF THE CARS IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT OF THE CARS. THAT IS THE BC GREEN APPROACH. IT'S NOT CYNICAL VOTE BUYING OR VOTE GETTING. IT'S TO ACTUALLY DO WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF PUBLIC THROUGH GOOD PUBLIC POLICY. >> Jennifer: WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FROM SOMEONE WHO WROTE IN TO US. PATRICIA BEATON OF NORTH VANCOUVER WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, IF YOUR PARTY IN PARTICULAR FORMS THE NEXT GOVERNMENT, WHAT WILL YOU DO TO SUPPORT YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE AGING OUT OF FOSTER CARE? CHRISTY CLARK STARTS THIS ONE FOLLOWED BY Mr. WEAVER AND THEN Mr. HORGAN. >> THANKS FOR THE QUESTION, PATRICIA. IT'S -- IT'S A REAL ISSUE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA FOR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPENT THEIR TIME IN GOVERNMENT CARE, TRYING TO FIND THEIR WAY AFTER THEY LEAVE GOVERNMENT CARE. AND, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY -- THE FACT IS GOVERNMENT DOESN'T MAKE THE BEST PARENT. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN -- AND WE ARE -- TO MAKE SURE THAT FEWER CHILDREN FIND THEIR WAY INTO GOVERNMENT CARE BY SUPPORTING FAMILIES IN DOING A BETTER JOB. THAT'S HOW MY MOTHER SPENT MOST OF HER VOLUNTEER HOURS AS I WAS GROWING UP. IF WE CAN'T AND WE RECOGNIZE WE CAN'T DO THAT FOR EVERYONE, WE NEED TO SUPPORT CHILDREN WHO ARE IN CARE, ESPECIALLY AS THEY ARE AGING OUT. WE HAVE EXTENDED THE AMOUNT OF TIME OVER WHICH WE CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE CHILDREN WHO ARE IN CARE AFTER THEY AGE OUT, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING THEM ALONG THE WAY IN FINDING THEIR PATH WHICH IS SOMETIMES A REALLY DIFFICULT ONE. >> Jennifer: WE NEED TO STOP YOU THERE IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, Ms. CLARK, AND TO YOU Mr. WEAVER, YOUR RESPONSE. >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. Ms. CLARK, YOUR GOVERNMENT HAS NO CREDIBILITY ON PUTTING FAMILIES FIRST OR DEALING WITH CHILDREN IN FOSTER CARE. FRANKLY IT'S SHOCKING WAS BEEN TRANSPIRING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. THE BC GREENS HAVE A VERY CLEAR PLAN. WE RECOGNIZE THAT CHILDREN BORN INTO SITUATIONS THAT THEY THIS HAD NO CONTROL WITH NEED A LITTLE HELPING HAND TO GET THROUGH. WE INTRODUCED THE CONCEPT OF BASIC INCOME TO ENSURE THAT ALL CHILDREN AGING OUT OF FOSTER CARE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO BASIC INCOME, WHICH WILL ENSURE THAT THEY GET OFF TO A GOOD START. IT'S A GREAT INVESTMENT IN OUR YOUTH OF TODAY TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH PROBLEMS TOMORROW. THAT'S WHY OUR WHOLE APPROACH IS TO ACTUALLY INVEST IN PREVENTION, GIVE PEOPLE A FIGHTING CHANCE SO THAT WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH PROBLEMS IN A REACTIVE WAY WHICH BOTH THESE OTHER PARTIES WILL DO. >> Jennifer: Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION FROM PATRICIA. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, PATRICIA. ALEX GERVAIS AND CARLY FRASER TOOK THEIR OWN LIVES BECAUSE THEY WERE FEARFUL OF WHAT THEIR LIVE WOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY AGED OUT OF CARE. I THINK THAT'S THE CRITICAL ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON HERE. YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THE SUPPORTS THEY NEED WHEN THE STATE IS RESPONSIBLE -- WHEN THE STATE IS THE PARENT, WE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL OBLIGATION, ALL OF US, TO MAKE SURE THOSE CHILDREN ARE GETTING THE BEST CARE POSSIBLE, AND BRIDGED INTO THEIR ADULTHOOD IF REQUIRED. THE CHILDREN'S REPRESENTATIVE, MARCH ELLE TURPEL-LAFOND LAV HAS MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT EXTENDING THE TIME KIDS HAVE SUPPORTS AND REALIZE THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. THE LIBERALS HAVE IGNORED THOSE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Mr. HORGAN. NEXT QUESTION FROM SHARON HALES IN RICHMOND. SHE WRITES, "THE NEW YORK TIMES" BRANDED BC THE WILD WEST OF POLITICAL DONATIONS. WHAT WILL YOU DO TO ADDRESS THE PERCEPTION THAT FAVOURS CAN BE BOUGHT BY DONATIONS? >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. FROM OUR PARTY, I THINK WE'RE THE ONLY ONES WITH CLEAN HANDS ON THIS. WE RECOGNIZE THAT YOU CANNOT TALK ABOUT BEING PRINCIPLED, YOU CAN'T TALK -- TAKE THE HIGH ROAD AND ARGUE AGAINST UNION AND CORPORATE DONATIONS WHILE YOU CONTINUE TO DO IT YOURSELF. I HAVE TURNED DOWN I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CORPORATE DONATIONS AND THE REASON WHY WE HAVE DONE THIS IS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT'S WRONG. THE BC NDP WILL CRITICIZE THE LIBERALS FOR DOING THIS AND THEY'LL STILL HAVE THE SAME $5,000 A PLATE PER-MEAL PAY FOR ACCESS EVENTS AND ACCEPT 1.8 MILLION FROM THE -- $1.7 MILLION FROM THE UNITED STEELWORKERS AND STAFF BEING PAID BY THEM TO RUN THE CAMPAIGN. WHO IS SETTING THE STAGE? THE KEY DECISIONS IN THE CAMPAIGN ARE BEING MADE BY THE STEELWORKERS WHO ARE DROPPED INTO THE -- THIS IS WRONG. AND BC GREENS RECOGNIZE THE PRINCIPLED APPROACH IS DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT OURSELVES. LEADERS LEAD. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Mr. WEAVER. Mr. HORGAN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SIX TIMES WE HAVE TABLED LEGISLATION IN OUR LEGISLATURE TO BAN BIG MONEY IN POLITICS. STOP UNION DONATIONS. STOP CORPORATE DONATIONS. CAP INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS AND THE BC LIBERALS SAID NO. THEY SAID NO BECAUSE THEY LIKE IT THIS WAY. Ms. CLARK SAID NO BECAUSE SHE HAS HAD A $300,000 SALARY TOP-UP OVER THE PAST SIX YEARS AS SHE HAS BEEN THE LEADER OF THE BC LIBERAL PARTY. THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. IF YOU ARE SITTING DOWN IN THE HOME OF THE FORMER CEO OF WARE HOUSER, THE SAME COMPANY THAT BROUGHT A PETITION AGAINST FOREST WORKERS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, PEOPLE RIGHTLY SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. WHEN A MINISTER OF MINES SITS DOWN WITH MINE CORPORATIONS INVITING LAWS -- VIOLATING LAWS, YOU NEED TO CHANGE THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. >> Jennifer: YOUR RESPONSE TO SHARON HALES? >> THANK YOU, SHARON. I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. LISTENING TO JOHN HORGAN, YOU MIGHT NOT REALIZE THAT HE HAS TAKEN THE BIGGEST POLITICAL DONATION IN BC HISTORY. THREE OF HIS CAMPAIGN STAFF ARE BEING PAID BY A UNION OUT OF PITTSBURGH THAT IS FIGHTING WITH DONALD TRUMP TO KILL FORESTRY JOBS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. HE HAS TAKEN OVER $100,000 FROM THE BCG E.U. AND NOW HE WANTS TO PUT MARIJUANA IN OUR LIQUOR STORES DESPITE THE FACT THAT NO ONE IN NORTH AMERICA IS DOING THAT. THE SYSTEM NEEDS TO CHANGE SO WE WILL APPOINT AN INDEPENDENT PANEL -- NOT POLITICAL -- WHO WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COULD BE UNANIMOUSLY ENDORSED BY THE LEGISLATURE TO CHANGE THE WAY FUNDRAISING IS DONE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms. CLARK. LET'S MOVE TO A QUESTION FROM WILLIE OLSEN FROM LANGLEY, BRITISH COLUMBIA. HE HAS A QUESTION ABOUT MEDICAL WAIT LISTS AND HE SAYS, I SPEND $14,000 ON KNEE OPERATIONS TO WAIT FOR AN MRI AND SURGERY IN THE PUBLIC SYSTEM WOULD HAVE BEEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AS WELL AS WASTE IN THE SYSTEM. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? THIS QUESTION GOES FIRST TO Mr. HORGAN, THEN Ms. CLARK AND Mr. WEAVER FOR 45 SECONDS EACH. >> BC LIBERALS IGNORING CHALLENGES LIKE WAIT TIMES IN OUR EMERGENCY ROOMS, WAIT TIMES FOR SURGERIES IS A CRITICAL PROBLEM IN THIS ELECTION AND GOING FORWARD. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROVIDING SERVICES FOR PEOPLE THAT THEY NEED. THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT IN PLACE URGENT CARE CENTRES SO THAT WE CAN STOP THE CLOGGING IN EMERGENCY ROOMS AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE GETTING TO WARDS AND SURGERIES THAT THEY NEED. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SOLUTION. BRING ON MORE HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF INDIVIDUAL PATIENTS. NURSE PRACTITIONERS, THERAPISTS, DIETITIANS. EVERYONE IN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE IN ONE FACILITY SO DOCTORS CAN FOCUS ON SURGERIES THEY NEED. WE NEED TO INCREASE SURGERY TIMES. MEANS MORE OPERATING HOURS AND INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC HEALTH CARE. THE BC LIBERALS ARE PREPARED TO IGNORE THAT. I'M NOT. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU. Ms. CLARK? >> THANK YOU. WELL, Mr. HORGAN DOESN'T TELL YOU THAT WHEN HIS GUYS WERE LAST IN GOVERNMENT, THEY DIDN'T ADD A SINGLE NEW SPACE FOR DOCTORS TO BE TRAINED. THEY CUT 1600 FULL-TIME NURSES AND WORST OF ALL, THEY CUT A THIRD OF THE BEDS IN BC HOSPITALS AND THE REASON THEY DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE RAN OUT OF MONEY. THEY WERE SPENDING SO MUCH OF YOUR MONEY THAT THEY RAN OUT AND THEY HAD TO CUT HEALTH CARE. THAT IS THE WRONG WAY TO LOOK AFTER OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST HEALTH OUTCOMES IN CANADA. UNDER THE NDP, THERE WAS -- THE WAIT LIST WENT UP BY 110%. WE ARE WORKING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE INVESTING IN HEALTH CARE AND WE'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A STRONG ECONOMY, BECAUSE WE'RE INDICATING JOBS ACROSS THE PROVINCE THAT GIVES US THE MEANS TO BUILD HOSPITALS, TO TRAIN DOCTORS AND MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AFTER PEOPLE. >> Jennifer: AND WE WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. BUT WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION THAT WE HEARD MORE THAN ONCE. OH, I'M SORRY, Mr. WEAVER, PARDON ME, GO AHEAD. >> YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. IT'S A COMPLEX QUESTION AND 45 SECONDS IS DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH IT. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE PLATFORM. THROWING MORE MONEY AT THE SYSTEM IN A TOP-DOWN MANNER IS NOT ACTUALLY DEALING WITH THE ISSUES IN HEALTH CARE. OUR APPROACH IS MORE COMMUNITY-BASED, TO ACTUALLY BUILD FROM THE BOTTOM UP, COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTRES, ONE-STOP SHOPPING CENTRES, WHICH WILL PULL THE -- WILL PULL A LOT OF THE PRESSURES THAT ARE IN OUR ACUTE FACILITIES OUT OF THE HOSPITALS, TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S MORE ROOM THERE. WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO SEPARATE CHRONIC AND ACUTE HEALTH CARE. SO WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TAKE MEASURES TO ENSURE THAT THE CHRONIC CARE BEING DONE IN THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS ACTUALLY TAKEN OUT OF THE HOSPITALS AND INTO THE RIGHT PLACE. AND ALSO WE HAVE MEASURES TO ACTUALLY ENSURE THAT PEOPLE CAN STAY IN HOMES. SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Mr. WEAVER. WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE LEADERS TO KEEP THE NEXT QUESTION TO 30 SECONDS AS WE ARE GETTING INTO A BIT OF A TIME CRUNCH. THIS QUESTION FROM KELOWNA: WILL YOU CHANGE FAMILY DAY SO IT ALIGNS WITH THE OTHER PROVINCES. [ Laughter ] >> THANK YOU,. I WAS PROUD TO INTRODUCE FAMILY DAY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS A DAY FOR FAMILIES TO BE TOGETHER AND THE REASON WE CHOSE THE DAY THAT WE DID IS WE DID -- WELL, WE DID A PUBLIC PROCESS. WE ASKED PEOPLE TO VOTE ONLINE, AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE VOTED IN FAVOUR OF THE DAY THAT WE HAVE. AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT DAY IS SO GREAT IS IT'S DIFFERENT IN OTHER PROVINCES. SO YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN YOU GO TO THE SKI HILL, BIG WHITE IN KELOWNA, YOU ARE NOT IN HUGE LINEUP WITH A BUNCH OF FOLKS FROM AROUND THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. >> Jennifer: Mr. WEAVER, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS. >> THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT BECAUSE THE REAL REASON WE HAVE FAMILY DAY ON A DIFFERENT DAY IS BECAUSE THE SKI INDUSTRY LOBBYISTS WANT TO YOUR GOVERNMENT AND WANTED IT TO BE SO. THE REST OF CANADA AND THE U.S. IS WORKING ON OUR FAMILY DAY, SO THEY ARE TAKING OFF THE -- ON THEIR FAMILY DAY, OUR PEOPLE HAVE TO GO TO WORK AND THERE'S NOTHING TO DO. IT'S OUTRAGEOUS. SO NOT ONLY DO I AGREE WITH THAT; I INTRODUCED A PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL THIS PAST SESSION TO DO PRECISELY THAT. BRING FAMILY ACROSS CANADA TO BE THE SAME >> Jennifer: Mr. HORGAN, 30 SECONDS. >> ABSOLUTELY. AGAIN, Ms. CLARK HAD A BOGUS CONSULTATION AND SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ON THAT DAY. I AGREE WITH Mr. WEAVER AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE SHOULD HAVE FAMILY DAY ON THE SAME DAY SO THAT WE CAN ALL CELEBRATE, ALL TAKE SOME TIME OFF, SOME PRECIOUS TIME AND SPEND IT WITH OUR FAMILY. I KNOW THAT I WOULD RATHER BE SPENDING TIME WITH MY KIDS ON FAMILY DAY AND THEY ARE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD. LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. I THINK IT'S COMMON SENSE AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THE LIBERALS DON'T GET THAT. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Mr. HORGAN AND THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE PEOPLE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA. CLOSING REMARKS FROM EACH LEADER NOW AND EACH LEADER WILL HAVE ONE AND A HALF MINUTES. LIBERAL LEADER CHRISTY CLARK IS FIRST OFF. Ms. CLARK. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN TONIGHT ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO STUCK WITH US TO THE END. I KNOW YOU WORK HARD FOR YOUR FAMILY AND YOU CONTRIBUTE SO MUCH TO BC. AND THAT IS WHY I AM SO DETERMINED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT JOBS AND KEEP BC ON TRACK. YOU KNOW WHERE WE STAND. THAT'S A BIGGER ECONOMY, NOT A BIGGER GOVERNMENT. IT'S LOWER TAXES, NOT SPENDING SPREES. IT'S MAKING SURE WE'RE INVESTING IN HOSPITALS AND SCHOOLS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT PAYING MASSIVE INTEREST PAYMENTS TO BANKS IN THE UNITED STATES AND IN LONDON. OUR PLAN HELPS YOU CREATE AND LIVE THE LIFE THAT YOU WANT. IT HELPS YOU GET A GREAT PAYING JOB. IT HELPS YOU OWN YOUR OWN HOME, AND MOST OF ALL, IT HELPS YOU KEEP MORE OF YOUR HARD-EARNED MONEY IN YOUR POCKET. WITH THE ELECTION OF PRESIDENT TRUMP IN THE UNITED STATES, BC IS FACING PROTECTIONISM. THEY HAVE ALREADY GONE AFTER ALUMINUM, FORESTRY AND AGRICULTURE. WHAT'S NEXT? TECH? FINANCIAL SECTOR? THE QUESTION IN THIS ELECTION IS WHO IS BEST TO LEAD THAT FIGHT TO PROTECT, PRESERVE AND CREATE BC JOBS? NEITHER THE NDP OR THE GREENS CAN FIGHT FOR JOBS. BOTH OF THESE MEN HAVE SPENT MOST OF THEIR POLITICAL CAREERS TRYING TO FIGHT AGAINST JOBS IN BC. JOHN HORGAN IS COMPROMISED AND Dr. WEAVER JUST ISN'T THAT INTERESTED. ONLY TODAY'S BC LIBERALS CAN LEAD THAT FIGHT AND I'M ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE SO THAT I CAN HAVE A STRONG MANDATE TO CONTINUE THE FIGHT TO -- TO SUPPORT BC JOBS, BUILD A STRONG FUTURE AND A BRIGHT FUTURE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. THANKS FOR TUNING IN. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Ms. CLARK. Mr. WEAVER OF THE BC GREENS, YOU ARE UP. >> THANK YOU. THAT WAS A REMARKABLE REVISIONIST CLOSING REMARKS. IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE. NOT ONLY A CHANGE IN GOVERNMENT, BUT ALSO A CHANGE IN THE VOICES THAT REPRESENT YOU, THE PEOPLE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA. THE BC LIBERALS HAVE FAILED TO DELIVER ON THEIR PROMISES AND THEY ARE OUT OF TOUCH SIMPLY OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE INCREASING INCERTAINTY AND GROWING ANXIETY THAT MANY OF YOU ARE FACING. AFTER 16 YEARS THE BEST THE BC NDP CAN OFFER IS BEING A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE BC LIBERALS. THEY HAVE REPEATEDLY FAILED TO INSPIRE US WITH A CREATIVE VISION FOR OUR FUTURE. YOU KNOW, THE BC GREENS HAVE A PLAN TO POSITION BRITISH COLUMBIA AS A LEADER IN THE NEW AND EMERGING ECONOMY. OUR PLAN PUTS PEOPLE, NOT VESTED CORPORATE OR UNION INTERESTS, FIRST AND FOREMOST IN DECISION-MAKING, AND IT WILL BRING PROSPERITY TO ALL BRITISH COLUMBIANS, NOT JUST THE VERY WEALTHY. THE BC GREENS RECOGNIZE THAT LEADERSHIP MEANS FINDING THE OPPORTUNITY IN EVERY CHALLENGE. WE RECOGNIZE THAT LEADERSHIP MEANS NO LONGER ACCEPTING UNION AND CORPORATE DONATIONS WHILE THE BC NDP AND THE BC LIBERALS SQUABBLING OVER WHO IS THE LEAST BOUGHT OFF. YOU KNOW, QUITE FRANKLY NEITHER OF THEM CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A MAJORITY GOVERNMENT, AND THAT IS WHY I HOPE TONIGHT YOU WILL HAVE SEEN THAT YOU WILL AGREE WITH ME, THAT IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE, A CHANGE THAT YOU CAN COUNT ON. THANK YOU. >> Jennifer: AND NOW TO Mr. HORGAN FOR HIS CLOSING REMARKS. >> THANK YOU, JENNIFER, AND THANK YOU TO THE VIEWERS AT HOME FOR STICKING WITH US FOR THE FULL 90 MINUTES. IT'S BEEN A FEISTY DEBATE, A FEISTY DISCUSSION, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S MADE VERY CLEAR TO YOU THE CHOICES YOU HAVE TO MAKE OVER THE NEXT 13 DAYS. DO YOU WANT FOUR MORE YEARS OF INCREASED COSTS, HIGHER MSP PREMIUMS, HIGHER HYDRO RATES, 42% INCREASES IN YOUR ICBC COSTS, BUT NOT REALLY A BREAK ON TOLLS. YOU HAVE TO ELECT THE LIBERALS TO SEE WHAT THEY DO. WE HAVE MADE COMMITMENTS TO MAKE PEOPLE THE CENTRE OF OUR POLITICS. WE HAVE MADE THE COMMITMENT TO MAKE LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. WE HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SERVICES YOU COUNT ON ARE THERE FOR YOU WHEN YOU NEED IT. PUBLIC EDUCATION, PUBLIC HEALTH CARE, SENIORS' CARE, AND $10 A DAY CHILDCARE, A PROGRAM THAT WILL MAKE SURE THAT WOMEN CAN GET BACK INTO THE WORKFORCE. IT'S GOOD FOR KIDS. IT'S GOOD FOR WOMEN. IT'S GOOD FOR FAMILIES. AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY. WE HAVE AN EXCITING PLAN FOR A BETTER BC. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD ON THAT AND WE HAVE LAID IT OUT FULLY COSTED, THREE-YEAR PLAN THAT WILL MEET THE NEEDS OF YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR COMMUNITY. I THINK IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE. I THINK IT'S TIME THAT THE BC LIBERALS NEGLECT ENDS. HELP IS ON THE WAY. ON MAY 9TH, I ASK YOU, I URGE YOU, I APPEAL TO YOU, IF YOU WANT CHANGE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, IF YOU WANT TO GET THE WEALTHY AND THE WELL-CONNECTED OFF THE TRAIN, VOTE BC NDP. THANK YOU VERY MUCHLT. -- VERY MUCH. >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Mr. HORGAN. WELL, THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF THIS DEBATE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> Jennifer: WE HAVE COVERED A NUMBER OF TOPICS THAT PEOPLE IN THIS PROVINCE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, EVERYTHING FROM HOUSING AFFORDABILITY TO THE ECONOMY TO THE STATE OF LEADERSHIP. WE HAVE HEARD FROM MORE THAN A THOUSAND BRITISH COLUMBIANS WITH QUESTIONS RANGING FROM THE OPIOID CRISIS TO THE FAMILY DAY HOLIDAY AND ON BEHALF OF THE BROADCAST CONSORTIUM, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE TIME TO E-MAIL US. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE THREE LEADERS WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT. HOPEFULLY IT HAS BEEN ENLIGHTENING FOR VIEWERS AND LISTENERS ALL ACROSS THE PROVINCE. DON'T FORGET TO VOTE ON MAY 9TH. I'M JENNIFER BURKE. THANKS FOR SPENDING THE LAST 90 MINUTES WITH US. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. [♪♪♪] [♪♪♪]
B1 中級 州の指導者たちが議論を交わす (B.C. provincial leaders debate) 198 4 Lam Hoi Hung に公開 2021 年 01 月 14 日 シェア シェア 保存 報告 動画の中の単語