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>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.
>> スティーブンおかえりなさい、皆さん。
MY NEXT GUEST TONIGHT WAS ALSO IN THE CAPITOL WHEN IT WAS
MY NEXT GUEST TONIGHT WAS ALSO IN THE CAPITOL WHEN IT WAS
OVERRUN BY VIOLENT EXTREMISTS.
暴力的なエクストリームに蹂躙されている。
WE TAPED THIS INTERVIEW RIGHT BEFORE CONGRESS RESUMED THEIR
WE TAPED THIS INTERVIEW RIGHT BEFORE CONGRESS RESUMED THEIR
DEBATE THIS EVENING.
DEBATE THIS EVENING.
HERE IS MY CONVERSATION WITH REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN OF
HERE IS MY CONVERSATION WITH REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN OF
ILLINOIS, ADAM KINZINGER.
イリノイ州 アダム・キンジンガー
CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE ON THIS EXTRAORDINARY AND
議員、このような非常に異例のことにご出席いただきありがとうございました。
EXTRAORDINARILY TERRIBLE DAY.
異常なまでにひどい日だった。
I'M SO SORRY FOR WHAT HAPPENED TODAY ON THE CAPITOL FOR OUR
今日の議事堂での出来事は 本当に残念です
COUNTRY, BUT ALSO FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
COUNTRY, BUT ALSO FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
IS EVERYBODY OKAY?
誰でもいいのか?
>> YEAH, EVERYBODY'S GOOD.
>> そうだな、みんないい子だ。
I ACTUALLY-- I'VE BEEN ANTICIPATING THIS FOR A WHILE,
私は実際に...しばらくの間、これを待っていました。
AND SO I DIDN'T HAVE STAFF COME IN TODAY.
今日はスタッフが来なかったから
I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT.
感謝しています。
BUT WE'RE KIND OF UNDER SIEGE HERE, IT FEELS LIKE, A LITTLE
でも、私たちは、ここでは、一種のアンダーSIEGEのようなもので、それは少しのように感じます。
BIT.
bit.
>> Stephen: THAT IS INTERESTING THAT YOU PERCEIVED
>> スティーブンあなたが経験したことは興味深いですね
THIS THREAT AHEAD OF TIME BASED UPON KNOWING THAT THERE WAS
それを知っていた上での、時代の先を行く脅威です。
GOING TO BE THIS RALLY DOWN THE STREET AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
ホワイトハウスの通りで 集会が行われます
IS THAT-- IS THAT WHAT PUT YOU ON GUARD?
IS THAT-- IS THAT WHAT PUT YOU ON GUARD?
>> YEAH, IT IS.
>> そうなんだ。
YOU KNOW, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS HEAR, YOU KNOW, THE WORDS OF THE
YOU KNOW, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS HEAR, YOU KNOW, THE WORDS OF THE
PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT BASICALLY STORMING D.C. AND
大統領は基本的にワシントンを 襲撃することについて話しています
DIFFERENT WORDS PRIOR TO THIS, CONVINCING PEOPLE THAT AN
これに先立って異なる言葉を使い、人々を納得させる。
ELECTION WAS STOLEN.
選挙が奪われました。
IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE THAT AN ELECTION WAS STOLEN AND THE
あなたが本当に選挙が奪われたと信じているならば
GOVERNMENT'S RUN BY, YOU KNOW, AS QANON BELIEVES SAINT ANIST
政府はカノンが聖アニストを信じているように、政府が運営しています。
PED FILES YOU CAN EXPECT SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN
PED FILES こんなことが起こると思ってください
AND YOU CAN SEE THE CHATTER ON TWITTER WITH PEOPLE TALKING
AND YOU CAN SEE THE CHATTER ON TWITTER WITH PEOPLE TALKING
ABOUT 1776 MOMENTS.
1776年のMOMENTSについて。
I KNEW IT WAS COMING.
来ると思っていた
I WASN'T SURPRISED.
驚きませんでした。
BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY A SURPRISING DAY.
しかし、それは間違いなく驚きの日でした。
>> Stephen: WELL, TELL US WHAT IT WAS LIKE IN THE CHAMBER.
>> スティーブン議会ではどうだったか教えてくれ
WHEN DID YOU FIND OUT THAT IT WAS HAPPENING?
WHEN DID YOU FIND OUT THAT IT WAS HAPPENING?
AND HOW WERE YOU INFORMED THAT YOU NEEDED TO LEAVE FOR YOUR
AND HOW WERE YOU INFORMED THAT YOU NEEDED TO LEAVE FOR YOUR
SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF THE STAFF?
スタッフの安全性と安全性?
>> YOU KNOW, I WAS LUCKY, BECAUSE I WAS ON THE HOUSE FLOOR
>> 運が良かったのよ 家の床にいたから
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCEEDINGS.
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCEEDINGS.
AND AS I STARTED TO LOOK AT TWITTER AND I WAS GETTING REALLY
そしてツイッターを見始めて、本当にそう思うようになりました。
KIND OF THAT FEELING THAT SOMETHING WAS ABOUT TO GO DOWN.
何かが倒れそうな感じがしたんだ
AND, YOU KNOW, PLUS THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH EARLIER IN
AND, YOU KNOW, PLUS THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH EARLIER IN
THE DAY PUT ME ON EDGE.
あの日は私を追い込んだ
AND THEN I STARTED TO SEE THE BARRICADES WERE BEING STORMED.
そして、バリケードが嵐になっているのを見始めました。
AND I MADE THE DECISION THEN TO GO BACK TO MY OFFICE AND I'M
そして、私は決断をして、自分のオフィスに戻ることにしました。
GLAD I DID.
やってよかった
I MOO FRIENDS AND STUFF I TALKED TO ON THE FLOOR, IT WAS
I MOOフレンドと床の上で話したことがあるんだ
OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING SURREAL, LIKE "END OF TIMES" KIND OF
OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING SURREAL, LIKE "END OF TIMES" KIND OF
MOVIE.
MOVIE.
AND WHEN THEY'RE PULLING THE ESCAPE HOODZ AND PUTTING THEM ON
そして、彼らは脱出フードを引っ張っているときに、その上にそれらを着用しています。
THEIR HEADS, WHICH WE NEVER THOUGHT WE'D HAVE TO USE, THAT'S
頭部を使う必要があるとは 思ってもみなかった それは
CRAZY.
狂ってる
>> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU THINK NEEDS TO BE SAID AND DONE TO
>> スティーブン:何を言われ、何をされるべきだと思いますか?
CALM THE SITUATION DOWN?
CALM THE SITUATION DOWN?
BECAUSE YOU WERE NEVER ONE-- YOU HAVE CONSTANTLY BEEN A CRITIC OF
BECAUSE YOU WERE NEVER ONE-- YOU HAVE CONSTANTLY BEEN A CRITIC OF
THE IDEA OF OPPOSING THE CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION.
投票の認証に反対するという考え。
YOU'VE CALLED THE PRESIDENT'S BEHAVIOR IRRESPONSIBLE, EVEN
大統領の行動に責任があると言ったな
BEFORE THE ELECTION.
BEFORE THE ELECTION.
BUT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW SO THAT THIS IS NOT PERCEIVED AS
しかし、このような事態にならないようにするためには、今すぐに何をしなければならないのでしょうか。
NORMAL?
普通?
WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO THOSE PEOPLE, THE MAJORITY OF THE
WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO THOSE PEOPLE, THE MAJORITY OF THE
REPUBLICANS IF YOU COMBINE THE SENATE AND THE MEMBERS OF THE
あなたが上院と議会のメンバーを結合した場合の共和国
HOUSE, THOUGHT THAT THIS DENIAL OF THE CERTIFICATION ARGUMENT
ハウスは、証明書の主張のこの否定を考えた。
WAS A GOOD IDEA.
良いアイデアだった
WHAT-- WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THOSE PEOPLE?
WHAT-- WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THOSE PEOPLE?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONLY THING
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONLY THING
THAT CAN HAPPEN IS A POLITICAL DECISION.
起こる可能性があることは、政治的な決定です。
BUT ON LEADERSHIP, YOU KNOW, LEADERS IN THIS PARTY WHO
しかし、リーダーシップでは、あなたが知っている、この党のリーダーは誰ですか?
CONVINCED PEOPLE THAT SOMEHOW CONGRESS COULD MAGICALLY PICK
CONVINCED PEOPLE THAT SOMEHOW CONGRESS COULD MAGICALLY PICK
THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT
次期アメリカ合衆国大統領は、それを考えたからです。
WAS GOING TO BE EASIER TO JUST AVOID THAT PAIN OF SAYING, "NO,
"ノー "と言う苦痛から逃れるのが楽になりそうだった。
IT'S NOT POSSIBLE," THAN WHAT WE FACE NOW.
"IT'S NOT POSSIBLE" THAN WHAT WE FACE NOW.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE A REAL AWAKENING MOMENT IN OUR PARTY.
つまり、私たちは、私たちのパーティーでリアルな目覚めの瞬間を持っている必要があります。
THE G.O.P. HAS GOT TO GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF CULTURE WARS AND
G.O.P.は、文化戦争とのビジネスから取得するようになっています。
GET BACK INTO THE BUSINESS OF GIVING PEOPLE HOPE AND
人々に希望と希望を与えるビジネスに戻る
OPPORTUNITY AND ACTUALLY MAKING THE CASE FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE,
機会と実際に私たちが信じていることのためのケースを作っています。
INSTEAD OF THINKING WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH POWER AND ALL-CAPS
力とオールキャップでできると思っているのではなく
TWEETS.
ツイッターです。
>> Stephen: THERE'S A QUOTE THAT IS SOMETIMES ATTRIBUTED TO
>> スティーブンある時はこれに関連した名言があります
HUEY LONG AND SOMETIMES SAINT CLAIRE LEWIS "WHEN FASCISM COMES
HUEY LONG AND SOMETIMES SAINT CLAIRE LEWIS "WHEN FASCISM COMES
TO AMERICA IT WILL BE CLOAKED IN AMERICAN FLAGS."
TO AMERICA IT WILL BE CLOAKED IN AMERICAN FLAGS"
WAS THIS AN ATTEMPTED FASCIST COUP?
ファシストの企みだったのか?
AMERICAN TERRORISM?
アメリカのテロリズム?
HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE IT?
HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE IT?
>> I CHARACTERIZE IT AS A COUP ATTEMPT.
>> 私はそれを カップルの企みとして特徴づける
THE GOOD THING ABOUT THE UNITED STATES IS THE GUARDRAILS, THE
米国の良いところは、ガードレール、つまり、「護衛」である。
CONSTITUTION WILL HOLD.
憲法は存続する
BUT THE ONE THING IT DOES SHOW US IS THE FRAGILITY OF
BUT THE ONE THING IT DOES SHOW US IS THE FRAGILITY OF
DEMOCRACY.
民主主義。
AND WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE STORMING THE CAPITOL, SAYING
AND WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE STORMING THE CAPITOL, SAYING
THINGS LIKE 1776, A FEW PEOPLE WITH CONFEDERATE FLAGS COME AND
1776年のように、連邦軍の旗を持った人たちが来て
OCCUPY THE CAPITOL, YOU SEE GUNS DRAWN IN THE PEOPLE'S CHAMBER,
国会議事堂に銃が引き抜かれているのが見える
YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS DEBATE IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AND YOU SEE A
あなたは、この議論がどこで行われるか知っていて、あなたはそれを見ています。
PRESIDENT NON-REPENTANT ON TWITTER, IT'S ABSOLUTELY A COUP
PRESIDENT NON-REPENTANT ON TWITTER, IT'S ABSOLUTELY A COUP.
ATTEMPT.
ATTEMPT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'D CALL IT IF IT HAPPENED IN BELARUS OR ANY
ベラルーシや他の国で起きたことを 私たちはそう呼んでいます
OTHER COUNTRY.
OTHER COUNTRY.
>> Stephen: I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPH OF THE
>> スティーブン:写真を見たことがあるでしょう?
SECURITY OFFICERS IN THE CHAMBER OF THE HOUSE WITH THEIR GUNS
SECURITY OFFICERS IN THE CHAMBER OF THE HOUSE WITH THEIR GUNS
DRAWN POINTED AT THE BROKEN WINDOW OF THAT FAMOUS DOOR THAT
あの有名なドアの割れた窓を指して描かれている
WE ALL SEE THE PRESIDENT WALK THROUGH FOR THE STATE OF THE
WE ALL SEE THE PRESIDENT WALK THROUGH FOR THE STATE OF THE
UNION, THAT YOU WALK THROUGH EVERY DAY AS A PART OF YOUR JOB,
ユニオン、仕事の一環として毎日歩き回ってください。
WILL YOU EVER LOOK AT THAT DOOR THE SAME WAY AGAIN?
WILL YOU EVER LOOK AT THAT DOOR THE SAME WAY AGAIN?
>> NO, I NEVER WILL.
>> いや、絶対にしない。
AND IN FACT, YOU KNOW THERE ARE BULLET SCARS IN THE HOUSE FROM A
AND IN FACT, YOU KNOW THERE ARE BULLET SCARS IN THE HOUSE FROM A
TERRORIST ATTACK IN THE 50 FRONTAL SYSTEM I THINK PUERTO
TERRORIST ATTACK IN THE 50 FRONTAL SYSTEM I THINK PUERTO
RICAN SEPARATISTS.
リカン・セパレーターズ
AND THAT'S ALWAYS KIND OF SHOWN AS WHAT CAN HAPPEN.
それは常に何が起こるかを示しています。
THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER THING.
これは別のことになるぞ
IN 50 YEARS WHEN PEOPLE GIVE TOURS, THEY'RE GOING TO TALK
IN 50 YEARS WHEN PEOPLE GIVE TOURS, THEY'RE GOING TO TALK
ABOUT THOSE BULLET SCARS AND THE SCARS FROM TODAY.
今日の傷跡と傷跡について
BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THE DEMOCRACY WILL SURVIVE.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THE DEMOCRACY WILL SURVIVE.
BUT PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO GET OUT OF THISWITH A DIFFERENT OPINION,
しかし、人々は、異なる見解を持って、これから抜け出すことを得なければならない。
PASSIONATELY DEBATE BUT RECOGNIZE THAT POLITICS WAS
熱心に議論するが、政治があったことを再認識します。
INVENTED TO PREVENT VIOLENCE AND OUR POLITICS HAS BEEN BROKEN FOR
暴力を防止するために考案され、私たちの政治は壊れています。
SO LONG.
SO LONG.
>> Stephen: YOU TWEETED, "LEADERS WHO LED THIS SHOULD ALL
>> スティーブン: あなたはツイッターで、"LEADERS WHO LED THIS SHOULD ALL SHOULD "とつぶやいた。
RESIGN SO THE ADULTS AND TRUTH TELLERS CAN RESTORE OUR G.O.P."
"大人と真実を伝える人たちが私たちのG.O.P.を取り戻すことができるように再サインしてください。"
WHO ARE THOSE LEADERS?
WHO ARE THOSE LEADERS?
COULD YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC?
COULD YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC?
DOES IT INCLUDE THE...
DOES IT INCLUDE THE...
THE PRESIDENT AND THE VICE PRESIDENT?
大統領と副大統領?
SHOULD THEY LEAVE NOW?
今すぐ出て行くべきか?
SHOULD THE 25th AMENDMENT BE INVOKED?
憲法25条を発動すべきか?
>> YEAH, SO I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO NAMING NAMES, BUT ON THE
>> 仝ええやん、だから名前には入りたくないんやけど、その上で。
PRESIDENT, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
大統領、それは我々が見なければならないことだと思います
IF HE'S GOING TO STAY IN OFFICE-- YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY TWO
IF HE'S GOING TO STAY IN OFFICE-- YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY TWO
WEEKS SO HOW YOU CAN QUICKLY DO THIS.
WEEKS SO HOW YOU CAN QUICKLY DO THIS.
IF HE'S GOING TO STAY IN OFFICE AND CONTINUE TO BE NONREPENTANT
彼はオフィスにとどまり、非寛容であり続けるために行くのであれば、
ON TWITTER AND SAY PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE VIOLENT BUT THEY
ON TWITTER AND SAY PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE VIOLENT BUT THEY
WERE JUSTIFIED IN DOING THIS, I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT
裁かれたんだから、それは会話だと思う。
WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW MORNING, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE
明日の朝になると思うんだけど、そのうち分かると思うんだ。
WHERE THAT GOES.
WHERE THAT GOES.
BUT THE REALITY IS EVERYBODY THAT LED LED-- YOU KNOW, OUR
BUT THE REALITY IS EVERYBODY THAT LED LED-- YOU KNOW, OUR
SUPPORTERS WHO LOOK TO US FOR TRUST, THEY DESERVE TO TELL THE
私たちを信頼してくださるサポーターの皆様には、そのことをお伝えする必要があります。
TRUTH TO THEM NOW.
本当のことを言ってくれ
>> Stephen: WHILE YOU HAVE BEEN A VOCAL CRITIC OF THE
>> スティーブンあなたは、これまでにも
PRESIDENT, DID YOU VOTE FOR IMPEACHMENT LAST YEAR?
PRESIDENT, DID YOU VOTE FOR IMPEACHMENT LAST YEAR?
>> NO, I DIDN'T.
>> いや、してないよ。
>> Stephen: WOULD YOU LIKE ANOTHER BITE AT THAT APPLE?
>> Stephen: WOULD YOU LIKE ANOTHER BITE AT THAT APPLE?
>> I THINK IF IT WAS DIFFERENT NOW, I WOULD CERTAINLY-- IF I
>> 今の状況が違っていたとしたら、私は間違いなく...
KNEW WHAT I KNOW NOW I WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT.
KNEW WHAT I KNOW NOW I WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT.
I WILL SAY, A BIG DIFFERENCE BEFORE THE ELECTION AND AFTER
私は言うだろう、選挙の前と後の大きな違い
THE ELECTION WHEN YOU TRY TO UNDERMINE THE VERY PINNINGS OF
THE ELECTION WHEN YOU TRY TO UNDERMINE THE VERY PINNINGS OF
DEMOCRACY, SIGNIFICANTLY DANGEROUS.
民主主義、非常に危険です。
>> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.
>> スティーブン急な休憩が必要なんだ
WHEN WE COME BACK, I WILL ASK REPRESENTATIVE KINZINGER HOW
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COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD ARE SEEING WHAT HAPPENED IN AMERICA
世界各国がアメリカで起きたことを見ている
TODAY.
トゥデイ
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