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Hi, everyone.

And welcome to topics with desk.

I'm desk.

This is topics already, so we're good.

We're gonna try a podcast.

The sort of thing today Podcast e means podcast.

Like where we discuss something in English for fun.

And you can hear what a real conversation sounds like.

So, anyway, today Thanks for coming, Kyle.

I'm Kyle.

I was never desk.

I was Kyle along.

Thanks for joining forever, Kyle.

That's me.

Forever.

Forever 21.

I was born this way.

Really?

Yeah.

I think Lady Gaga has a song about that.

It's about all the Kyles of the world.

Yeah, she was also born this way.

She was born a Kyle, but she changed her name twice to Stephanie.

First Stephanie first and then Lady Gaga later.

She's really cool with rolling with this.

Yeah, okay.

We miss her, me and all the other Kyle's.

We get together sometimes and talk about it like man, she was a good Kyle, but now she's a great lady Gaga.

Have you ever considered a name change.

My first name's actually Jonathan.

No.

Yeah.

Really?

Yeah.

What a revelation.

So why are you called Kyle?

Wait, you just lied to us.

Said you were always and forever.

Kyle, We can't trust you.

Desk Middle name.

Kyle's count.

Important detail.

Middle name.

Kyle's count, too.

I feel you lied, Thio.

Most people do, but you'll get used to it.

All right.

My parents ask them, Let's go on to safer territory.

Okay, let's discuss, Let's discuss media.

Our topic with desk for today is to discuss the last thing we watch.

The most recent thing we watched TV show movie.

Suppose it could be a sporting event, but we can explain the details of that thing and then try to give just enough information so the other person can guess what it was that we watched.

So the rule of the game will be.

We'll give the other person a hint.

There will be a guess.

It's the guesses wrong.

The hints continue, and we will try to continue until the correct answer is the girl's toe last longer or to be guest first.

Because maybe if you make the rule, the person tries to make the other person take longer to guess that naturally not give away important detail.

That is true.

Yeah.

Are you ready?

I'm ready.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I, uh I was born ready.

You were born Kyle as well.

Okay.

Okay.

You wanna go first?

I'll guess.

Okay.

The last thing that I watched features a middle aged man.

House of cards.

No.

Okay, that was that.

Your turn.

Oh, okay.

The last thing that I watched features five men.

Was it Party of five?

No, that's No five men.

Is it party five?

I don't know.

I never watched the show.

Okay, the last thing that I watched takes place in the east coast of the United States.

Was it ground home day?

No.

Nice guests.

Oh, yeah.

Little Asian man.

He's just okay.

The last thing that I watched ah has a special guest in every episode.

Ah, this is kind of cheating.

If this is something we were talking about earlier.

Is it comedians in cars getting coffee?

No.

Oh, never mind that.

Okay, The last thing I watched now I said it features a middle aged old man.

Yeah.

Oh, actually, to be honest, there's lots of middle aged men and women.

E.

I just didn't want you to get stuck in the middle aged man detail.

As I can tell, when you said ground hog day, you're thinking things that are just one middle aged man.

Well, you should say features.

The point was to make it hard for you to guess.

So my first clue helped in no way way.

Well, that basically disregard That wasn't mad.

Men.

No.

Okay.

All right.

The last thing that I watched Ah, the episodes take place in the south of the U.

S.

Ah, I got this one.

Fab Five us Queer eye did I e.

Went and b Queer Eye's awesome.

It's awesome.

It's a good show.

Good show I did.

You watch the previous version.

They used to be a show called Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.

I haven't I watched two.

It was more kind of entertainment driven.

And while the new one is like, of course, it's entertainment, it's a TV show.

It's not just about, you know, giving someone a makeover, but they're also actually talking about important issues related to race and sexuality.

And you know your job and your position in society and I was quite surprised pleasantly surprised at how it is a silly and fun show in some ways.

But there's some depth doing.

Yeah, I liked it.

Seen anyone?

Yeah.

Ah, I think I'm on about Episode three of season two and I agree completely from what I knew from the old one, which I never really watched.

My understanding was it was just making over schlubby guys, more or less in the new season is all about making these making people better, just in all sorts of ways, improving how they take care of themselves, how they treat themselves and other people like.

And they pick people who are already making an effort thio to improve other people.

And they're just giving them a push toe.

Bring them even further along in that process.

Yeah, and I was also surprised at how open the participants on the show were like, I found it very interesting that they were choosing people like that.

Perhaps we might stereotypically associate is being very closed minded, like a guy from like it was very active in his church community but was very welcoming to people of different backgrounds or like a police officer.

So these air kind of stereotypical, I think especially Wightman in that area of the U.

S.

Have this kind of stereotype that's associated with being close minded.

But the show is showing Well, no, what could be open minded no matter what they look like or no, you know what their backgrounds are so and the South is.

As you said, that is kind of a stereotype that people of the South won't be accepting of he's certain lifestyles or what have you, and even some of the people that they help O.

R on the political spectrum that you would definitely not expect them to be accepting of of the Fab Five.

But what you find is it's once people get to know each other and see how the other person works and how the other person thinks.

Then they see that all of our similarities are way more prevalent than all of our differences.

Yeah, that's a good show.

It's good.

I really enjoy it.

Yeah, you're on season to season two time still in season 10 I'm looking forward to it.

So now we do Rapid fire.

Yes, please.

Rapid fire hint time.

Okay, and I'll try to make it progressively easier for you.

Okay.

I know almost nothing.

Wait.

Just met with men, and I thought that was the point.

All right, Something a little easier.

Fair?

There is some clues that will make it very easy.

Do you want those, or do you want me to build up to them?

Let's go with the buildup.

Yeah, okay.

There is a crime in this show.

C s I, New York, Miami.

The main characters themselves are criminals.

See, I know they're not some with this many middle aged guys together committing crimes.

You might call it organized crime.

Uh, that one Mafia show with the guys it's called.

It's called The show's named after the head.

Yes, I know.

Persons lessening.

I know the soprano.

Yeah, I promise.

I've never seen that show.

You should watch it.

Everyone seems to love it.

It's good.

Yeah.

It's the polar opposite of queer eye.

Ah, where you have these criminals, you see that they're good in some ways, Obviously not good.

In a lot of ways, in the show really highlights the weakness inherent in a lot of these people.

And instead of making them better, you see, then become tragic figures because of their weaknesses and a lot of the time that has to do with how close minded they are and how kind of I don't know if ignorance the right word to ever used to refer to anybody.

But just there they have an insular, insular meaning.

It exists within itself kind of mindset, where they don't get a lot of feedback from outside influences.

So the way they think two today's standards seems very, very old fashioned.

So it's not exactly a feel good show.

You don't watch that show to feel happy?

No.

So what do you gain from watching the show?

Do you feel more introspective, introspective, meaning like you?

Look at yourself more closely and into yourself and think about yourself more or Mmm.

Is it purely entertainment?

Like dramatic entertainment?

A bit of a a bit of B.

It's certainly dramatic.

There's some tension and suspense, and you do learn to like these characters, despite their flaws and hope that they'll improve and end up in a better situation and its TV.

You know, it's it's one of the earlier of the these high quality shows that would be considered the television renaissance that's going on right now, Sopranos and then Deadwood and then Breaking Bad and Mad Men.

All of these shows brought the serialized drama format to TV and an almost like Hollywood quality.

A film like Quality and Sopranos was one of the originators of the home change.

Yeah, I remember when The Sopranos first came out, first became available.

People were shocked at the quality, and people were shocked at the storytelling because it was so different from anything that had appeared on TV.

Up until that point, we had lots and lots of sitcoms like I think It's Like throughout the nineties.

It was so many sitcoms, Friends and Will and Grace and Seinfeld and all of these really popular fun to watch things and the dramas that were available.

Like I jokingly talked about CS I as an example.

It was kind of very predictable and kind of cookie cutter in some ways, too.

But then something like The Sopranos came onto the scene and it took everybody by storm.

Meaning took everyone by surprise.

I think like viewers, Yes, really into it.

It seemed like from the beginning, Yeah, instead of being limited to all the drama and all the character arcs have to be confined.

In one episode, you have seasons that it can sprawl throughout.

So you have characters who have arcs that last over the whole show.

Maybe wherever.

Multiple seasons were just a few episodes, and you have so much creative ability with storytelling in that way.

Yeah, that's huge to be able to tell a story over a long period of time instead of having 22 minutes.

Of course, there is also in or two telling stories in those 20 minutes and TV Overtime really perfected that model.

There's value in both, but the serialized format just opened the floodgates of the kinds of the complexity of stories you can tell.

And then now we have a game of Thrones and westworld and all these shows that oh, with their existence too pretty much directly Sopranos, Really?

So that was kind of the catalyst, the thing that started it all.

I would say so, or at least a major factor in that kind of shift in presentation.

Exciting.

I haven't watched it.

Have you seen all of it?

Then I'm on the last season there six seasons.

OK, I haven't seen you should watch it.

I hadn't watched it until this most recent viewing, and everybody talked about it the way I just did.