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  • well, John, this is a day, if not of first, then of staggering proportions not seen since the height of the global financial crisis.

  • Traders said that they knew things would be bad when they saw the extent of the oil price declines overnight.

  • So when the markets opened here, there was only really one way things could go.

  • What was most surprising, though, was the extent off the declines, which triggered a CZ you mentioned there, John.

  • What's known as these circuit breakers, the automatically kick in and shut the market down.

  • That is a very, very rare event here on Wall Street.

  • The idea is that it gives investors a chance to stop and try and take a breath.

  • But when the markets reopened, the screens immediately went green then, as they are now still behind me.

  • As you can see, what's perhaps most worrying Jon is that investors really have been pricing in a global economic slowdown now for weeks because of this spreading Corona virus.

  • What traders are now saying, though, is that the market is pricing in a full blown recession.

  • The New York Stock Exchange.

  • It is an historic day of trade here, and uncertainty is wreaking.

  • Looking at declines across the board here in this market, there's no other way to say it.

  • They're calling it black.

  • Monday, traders in New York braced for the worst, and within seconds it came Theo.

  • At the open, shares plummeted to levels so low it triggered the stock exchange to automatically shut down This morning.

  • There was definitely some panic in the air started last night when you started to see the futures trading down and everyone was worried about where the markets were going.

  • This morning there was panic coming through the phones on the floor, traders just trying to rush to get to the point of sale to get rid of their stock.

  • This was definitely in the oil markets where I think people started a fear, Ah, global recession.

  • So you have a market that's falling out of control.

  • You have oil markets that are falling out of control and you have no idea what the backdrop of a virus globally, where all the chips are going to lie when it's all said and done.

  • The latest panic came as investors here and around the world reacted to a crash in the oil markets on the on word spread of the Corona virus unchecked around the globe.

  • As the market reopened after a 15 minute pause, Wall Street's leading share index, the S and P 500 tumbled more than 6%.

  • Markets were already spooked by the virus and its impact on the global economy, but adding to their fears and escalating spat between Russia and Saudi Arabia over oil prices itself in response to a drastic fall in demand in the wake of the Corona virus at a meeting of the major oil producers last week, the plan was to cut production to stabilize the market.

  • But last night, Russia refused and instead ramped up production and slashed prices.

  • Not to be outdone, Saudi Arabia quickly followed, oil prices tumbled.

  • That stunned the stock markets, and the rest is red ink on the screens.

  • The U.

  • S stock market followed a pattern set across the world.

  • The footsie in London, the DAX in Germany and the nick A in Japan, all tanking trillions wiped off the values of stocks in drops not seen on most of the world's markets since the financial crisis of 2000 and eight investors.

  • I think of frightened offer another big crisis.

  • This is the first time that the global economy and the global markets are being tested.

  • Since 2000 and eight, there's a really big moves on dhe.

  • Clearly, the implications are dramatic.

  • The worry is, the usual tools are having little effect.

  • The dramatic cut in U.

  • S.

  • Interest rates last week failing toe have its desired impact.

  • As parts of northern Italy went into lock down in the U.

  • S.

  • Similar action may be needed here.

  • President Trump, who visited the Center for Disease Control on Friday, stuck to his line that the markets were simply reacting to a dose of fake news and that life on the economy go on.

  • What President Trump is you saw.

  • They're going out of his way to try and pump up the stock market and play down the threat off the Corona viruses.

  • Even saying that the oil price declines are a good thing for consumers.

  • Of course, they're not good for US oil producers, and he's reminding us of the numbers of people that die from the ordinary flu every year.

  • And of course there is.

  • You start pointing the finger at journalists who he says, are responsible for hyping this story and causing the markets to tank in an election year, we know he's going to do everything he can to try and keep the economy strong traded here.

  • I should say they are not blaming journalists.

  • They are talking to a very real fear that all of this could lead to a global recession.

  • They are hoping that the White House today will step in and say something to try and calm things down.

  • We know that the vice president, Mike Pence, is due to hold a press conference to update everybody in a couple of hours time.

  • What the traders and others are looking for is some sort of reassurance that they will offer paid leave for families who are being forced to take time off, or maybe even step up and prop up ailing industries like the airline and the travel sectors, which are being hit particularly hard.

  • You can see from the screens behind me there that most of those stocks are very much in the red.

  • The problem is that whatever financial assistance they provide, all of that is welcome.

  • But what trade is really want to see here is the development of a vaccine.

  • But as we know, as we've said many times before that that is at least six months to a year.

  • If no further away.

  • Matchable Thanks very much indeed about Katie Martin is the markets editor of The Financial Times.

  • She's with me again now, Katie.

  • The last time we spoke, it looked bad.

  • But this looks a lot worse now.

  • Why is that?

  • What?

  • The underlying reasons why this is so much more serious?

  • Well, a cz you, as you say, the market's been in trouble for a couple of weeks.

  • Based on the Corona virus, people have been starting to price in the risk that maybe we're going to get tipped into a global recession by the shutdown that's happened in manufacturing and travel around the world because of this virus.

  • Then the OPEC thing comes along on.

  • One investor that we spoke to this morning described it as throwing a grenade into a bloodbath.

  • So this is great if you like mixed metaphors, I suppose.

  • But what it means is that you're adding an extremely uncertain situation into an extremely uncertain situation, and the impact on markets has been pretty horrible today.

  • Now the Saudis have done this before, you know, to lower the old price, flood the market with cheap oil, hoping the demand would pick up and they end up with a bigger market share.

  • That calculation may not work this time.

  • Yes, So if you want to look on the bright side, you could say, Look, we've had a 30% drop in oil first thing this morning it was about 20% down.

  • Both left just staggering, staggering.

  • And this is a huge gift to consumers of oil the world over.

  • If you want to look at it that way, you could say, Look, this is a great stimulus into the global economy.

  • We're not driving anywhere all flying anywhere, though.

  • That's the thing.

  • And it's a bit like the help that central Banks have been trying to throw into the system.

  • The Federal Reserve in the U.

  • S.

  • Cut interest rates last week, which we weren't expecting again.

  • It's difficult for that to help if there isn't the demand there for travel and general economic activity.

  • So the fact that the Saudis and the Russians have been playing this war this game over oil does that make the recession that much worse.

  • Well, what people are worrying about in markets is we've seen stock markets dropped very heavily, as your report was just saying.

  • We've also seen stress in the high your bond market in the States, and there's lots of quite small energy companies in the U.

  • S.

  • Shale oil producers.

  • This is exactly who Russia is going after on dhe, they borrowed lots of money for their exploration and all the rest of it.

  • They're gonna find that debt very difficult to pay back with oil trading at these sorts of levels.

  • And that's a worry about the domino effect of what could happen through corporate America.

  • Because the big problem, as far as I can understand, is a corporate debt.

  • You know, the amount of money the companies have borrowed has gone from three trillion in 2007 to 6 trillion out huge mountain of debt.

  • If they can't pay that service that debt, what happens to the economy?

  • Well, people have been warning for months that the U.

  • S high yield debt market isn't is an accident waiting to happen that there's loads of companies out there that massively loaded up on debt while it's being cheap, and it would only take a little trigger to push him over the edge.

  • This is the trigger, so that market was particularly fierce again today.

  • So to be absolutely clear, we are heading for a global recession.

  • Yes, on them.

  • That's not fair.

  • You know everything.

  • Give us.

  • Give us your best hunter.

  • The market certainly thinks so.

  • If you look at the U.

  • S.

  • Government bond markets, that's definitely what the what people are pricing in there on the kind of Ford's that we saw today.

  • Is that a slump or a crash?

  • It's definitely crashed territory.

  • The oil price move was the worst since the first Gulf War in 1991.

  • This has not been a normal day in the office, and even by the standards of the past couple of weeks, which have taken a few years off my life, frankly, it's been pretty tough.

  • And as we heard from Sean, there's only so much of central banks conduce fix this.

  • Explain that briefly.

  • That's the big concern.

  • Central banks have cut interest rates absolutely to the floor since the great financial crisis of 2008.

  • There really isn't very much room to cut him further.

  • So if anyone's expecting them to come in as the cavalry, that's a difficult calculation that could beam or coordination between.

  • That might help, but it's not easy.

  • Kati Marton.

  • Thank you very much indeed.

  • Jump.

  • So now here, Boris Johnson says the U.

  • K is making extensive preparations to move into the delay phase of the plan to contain the spread of the Corona virus, trying to push the peak number of cases into the summer when the N.

  • H S is better able to cope.

  • Speaking alongside the prime minister, the government's chief medical advisor warned that soon cases of the virus would spread really quite fast.

  • Quote have which point anyone with even a minor fever may have to self isolate afterwards.

  • For seven days, 1/5 death from the virus was confirmed in the last hour.

  • Health and social care correspondent Victoria McDonald has this report from a school in rugby toe a worker, a transport for London to two people in Wolverhampton.

  • New cases of covered 19 confirmed today and then this afternoon the death was announced of a patient at the Royal Wolverhampton Hospital and another at Epsom in ST Helio University Hospital's Trust, both in their seventies, both with underlying conditions.

  • A statement made to emphasize that although highly contagious, the risk of death from covered 19 is far higher in older people with other serious health problems.

  • Today, the emergency Cobra committee met and confirmed that the country remains in the containment phase.

  • But the chief medical officer issued a stark warning.

  • We're now very close to the time, probably within the next 10 to 14 days when the modeling would imply we should move to a situation where we say everybody who has even minor respiratory tract infections or a fever that should be self isolating for seven days afterwards and this is going to be the next step.

  • We have not yet reached that step, but we are going to be reaching that step in the really quite near future.

  • But in the meantime, the N HS will be doing this At the moment we're screening everybody.

  • He's in intensive care for Corona virus if they have symptoms that are compatible with Corona virus, so if they have a very bad pneumonia on will be extending that out Now, as from tomorrow to everybody has a significant enough pneumonia or other respiratory tract infection to get into hospital at all.

  • A blurring of the already fine line between preparing and scaring With this warning from the prime minister watching what is happening around the world are scientists think containment is extremely unlikely to work on its own.

  • And that is why we're making extensive preparations for a move to the delay phase.

  • Were preparing various actions to slow the spread of this disease in order to reduce the strain it places on the N.

  • H s.

  • The four phases as we're coming to know well, our contain delay, research and mitigate.

  • So the concern, I think that all of us have is really essentially what our Italian colleagues have found in terms off large numbers of patients who need access to medical care.

  • Clearly, the N H.

  • S is gearing up and there are lots of plans going on and we, as general practice a gearing up for that.

  • But we only have a limited capacity and obviously we are concerned also to make sure our staff stay well because obviously we'd potentially could become a patient ourselves.

  • Delay could mean more home working or as a last resort, closing schools, canceling large public events.

  • Indeed, in Dublin, where they've had 21 cases, they have already taken the decision to cancel the ST Patrick's Day parade.

  • BARDEN, England.

  • For horse racing fans, the bets are still on for the Cheltenham Festival.

  • Speculation about canceling off this boning sporting events is very premature.

  • We're nowhere near that sort of stage.

  • Andi, if we were to do so, I just add the cabin.

  • There is a possibility it could happen, but we're very clear at the moment that that is not the case.

  • They have been confined to their cabin since Thursday and at least 21 cases of covered 19 have bean confirmed life on board the Grand Princess has undoubtedly palled.

  • Tonight, though, the Foreign Office announced that the British nationals will be flown from the United States landing in the UK on Wednesday afternoon, Victoria McDonald reporting now a huge therefore challenge for the government balancing the need for action with the right timing.

  • Our political editor, Gary Given, is in Downing Street.

  • Garrett Well, has he heard from Victoria?

  • The advice is going to change pretty soon, suggesting that you stay at home even if your symptoms don't like full blown Corona virus, and that's because we're going to move to a situation soon.

  • The medical experts are absolutely clear about that, where there will be a higher possibility percentage chance that you've got it because it's going to be around that much more.

  • In that press conference, we also learned that there's been a Minis or you turn from the prime minister on the whole issue of should you shake hands?

  • He sounded almost blase about that at the last press conference today.

  • He's saying that actually, the behavioral evidence is that if you avoid shaking hands, it makes you more mindful about the other things you should be doing in this health crisis.

  • The scientists are still saying that there's a minimal risk attached to shaking hands, but it did sound like a bit of movement there, but the underpinning everything in that press conference.

  • I think there's a sense of in the government that they had to explain to people out there that even though we're of the same stage as some countries were with this virus now that that these other countries have bean at earlier.

  • We're not doing the same things that they did.

  • They wanted to reassure people that that is not because we're slack or behind the curve.

  • It is because of conscious decisions being made in here and quietly when you talk to officials away from the press conference cameras, they say they think some of these other countries have got it a bit wrong that some of the behaviors they're tryingto get in place now well, actually slackened because people will lose concentration, stop making the effort and start.

  • If you tell him to stay at home and stop going to meetings or whatever it is too early, they'll go slip back into their their bad old ways.

  • Other stuff have learned today.

  • Conversations going on with supermarkets.

  • Try and see if they could do more deliveries.

  • They're stopped from doing it at the moment by lots of bylaws at antisocial hours that might wake up people who live near supermarkets that the supermarkets say they need to do to make sure there's stuff on the shelves.

  • They could also be some developments.

  • Try and make sure that old people who aren't comfortable doing Internet shopping but trying to stay at home.

  • Maybe they can phone in their orders to supermarkets.

  • The doctor didn't bark in that press conference today.

  • It really was the financial figures that Sean was talking about shocking figures you'd normally expected to dominate in appearance for the prime minister.

  • They will have an impact on the months ahead.

  • They are not built into the assumptions on which Wednesday's budget is based.

  • But boy, will the impact the world it rolls out into in the months ahead.

  • I got a given in Downing Street.

  • Well, there are now more than 110,000 cases of covert 19 around the world, according to Johns Hopkins University.

  • They've been more than 3800 deaths globally.

  • More than 62,000 people have reportedly recovered from the virus.

  • In China and South Korea, the outbreak is slowing, showing signs of slowing down.

  • Qatar has temporarily barred travelers from 14 countries in an attempt to stop the spread.

  • The United States, the Grand Princess cruise ship, is expected to dock in Oakland, California, in a matter of minutes.

  • 21 people onboard have tested positive for the riotous.

  • France has banned gatherings of more than 1000 while prison riots have broken out all over Italy after visitor access was restricted.

  • Italy has almost 10,000 cases, making it the second worst affected after China, with a 463 deaths.

  • Prime Minister Conti Channel Churchill today when he said that his country was facing its darkest hour the glimpse of the medical front line of Europe's worst affected nation, an intensive care unit in Accra Mona Hospital inside the exclusion zone of Lombardy.

  • Some of the patients are older, but not all.

  • There simply aren't enough respirators for all those who need them, and doctors are choosing to give them to the patient's most likely to survive.

  • The situation is serious.

  • They're not in all the north of Italy, but in certain city, in a certain region in that region we have to have a difficult choice because the one must like to survive both.

  • First panic has spread to one kind of place where people are already isolated by law prisoners on the roof at the son Vitor, a jail in the here and in 26 other prisons around the country.

  • The inmates have been protesting everything from inadequate care to limited visits from relatives in Milan.

  • They ended up burning down the prison.

  • You can hear the mayhem inside in modern.

  • Our prisoners have raided the infirmary looking for methadone.

  • Six have died.

  • It was announced today by the police from an overdose in Rome.

  • Family members of the inmates took on the police and demanded better care for those inside.

  • In some places, social order is breaking down.

  • In others, it has been turned upside down.

  • You can still get your nails done in this room salon, but not before you've had your temperature taken.

  • You can still attend the prime minister's press conference, but the chairs have been placed a meter apart.

  • What's the point of that precaution after the information of the lock down leaked, allowing thousands of people to escape the quarantine zone in a matter of days, much of Italy has become Wuhan, but without the discipline and the collective control.

  • Venice, which invented the word quarantine, is now a ghost town.

  • Ski results are empty and silent.

  • Economic activity everywhere in the north has virtually ground to a hold.

  • The measures imposed by the government are draconian, but will they work and are they coming here?

  • Well, we're joined our via the Internet.

  • Bypass.

  • Squalid.

  • Franta, who is a professor of microbiology and virology at the University of Melons Medical School, is advising on treatments for those who've been hospitalized with the disease throughout the Lombardy region.

  • Thanks for coming on the program, Professor.

  • Thank you.

  • Good.

  • Good to have you.

  • Let me ask you first of all about this information that we've received from a number of sources, that in Italian hospitals in Lombardy you're basically choosing to give respirators only two patients who have a chance off survival.

  • And that means a lot of the older patients are being left to die effectively.

  • No, this is not a moment to any official position or decision.

  • Any hospital moment is trying to treat all the people we are in the middle off these seer epidemic.

  • And really probably in these days, we are facing the the huge increase off cases you can believe.

  • Just the number of just telling acid into the problem is growing a lot in three dates way passage from 3000 pictures to 9000 adjusting the last three bass.

  • The's a terrible numbers, professor, but I just wonder, even though it's not official policy to tell some of the older people away.

  • Is that what is actually happening in the hospitals?

  • I don't know the situation in the US in the hospital, but I know that many off the hospitality.

  • We're Adama personally contact days don't use this kind of off attitude, and we should we should for sure way big challenge for the health system.

  • Milano is a town with a very big hospitals in these one of the better organized the health system of Italy.

  • Aye, but never tell us we are facing the problems because of many of these pages are affected from Corona virus.

  • They needed to go in an intensive care unit or in a good care of traditional hospital.

  • Do you are just so it's sergeant carries.

  • Ask you quickly.

  • Do you actually have the vicinities?

  • The capabilities of dealing with this enormous increase in the number of patients?

  • What moment in these days we still ever in the region of longer?

  • The did organize yesterday, just a deliberate a new organization off the hospital in practically any kind of a classical disease.

  • That's usual diseases that Sarah stealer important of course will be cure will be treated in.

  • A few hospitals in the rest of the hospitals will be devoted to treating the coronavirus a patient.

  • So the number of beds, the number of facilities in this way should be increased in the probably capable off three everybody.

  • Yeah.

  • All right.

  • I'm gonna leave it there.

  • Professor Ferranti.

  • Good luck.

  • And thank you very much for joining us, John.

  • Thank you.

  • Iran's Health Ministry has updated the number of people who have died there to 237.

  • But there are fears that the total may be much higher.

  • Doctors have told this program the hospitals are struggling and prisoners say they are in grave danger from Tehran's Evin prison.

  • The British Iranian man minutia.

  • Suri has asked Boris Johnson for help.

  • He did so in a call to his wife in London this morning is our international editor, Lindsey Hilsum.

  • They may be disinfecting the airports, but that's little comfort to most Iranians as their government struggles and fails to contain the virus.

  • Some prisoners have been temporarily released to avoid infection, but not Jule nationals, the most well known as Nazanin zig Ari Ratcliffe.

  • But there are others.

  • Hello, my name is a Nuestra Suri and I'm calling from hold.

  • Class 27 off in prison.

  • Are we clean form the international community and in particular, the head off the British government that all of us in this prison, including the British nationals, are highly exposed to the dangers of contracting the Corona, where so that Evin prison are intentionally refraining from providing us with such big big necessities as mosques gloves on this incident, Mr.

  • Suri, who's being imprisoned for two and 1/2 years, was talking to his wife and pleading for help from the British prime minister.

  • He says vagrants and drug addicts, some of whom are suspected toe have the virus have recently arrived.

  • Should anything happen to the British citizens imprisoned in Iran, I hold you for your inaction on their blood will also be on your hands.

  • Mr.

  • Suri's wife believes that the British government can use this desperate moment to press Iran harder.

  • They haven't even tested them.

  • I mean, a few nights ago, a guard came to their door but his head in and said, Does anyone have Corona in here on Dhe?

  • They never really said no on the guy left.

  • So this is the extent off off the measures provided by the Iranian authorities.

  • So I think if the British government absolutely demands from the Iranians, you know what guarantees can you give us that our nationals will be safe in view of this spread, which they obviously can't.

  • You know, Up until now, it's been a matter of just incarceration.

  • But now it's it's gone beyond that is gone.

  • It's transcended that is now a life and death prisoners air in danger.

  • So to medical stuff, his ambulance isn't going to rescue a patient.

  • It's carrying the body of a doctor.

  • Health workers don't have enough protective gear, and dozens are reported to have contracted the virus star for in mourning and shock.

  • But Dan speak publicly, so we're hiding this doctor's identity.

  • He's now out of the country.

  • The doctors you general area is one of them told me that in one night 10 people that passed away in the hospital just you two coronavirus and now there is Ah, there's a punishment for doctors leaving their shifts and doctors, some of them actually did leave these shift because, well, some of them are afraid they're gonna get the corner writers.

  • There's a sentence to jail, and that's, I think, is two years for leaving your shift.

  • In some parts of Iran, they're conducting temperature checks.

  • But Iranians are skeptical if you believe government statistics, and many fear that the outbreak is out of control.

  • Lindsay Hilsum reporting Well now with me is Gayle Smith.

  • She's a former head of the American Government Development Agency, U S A.

  • I D.

  • Where she coordinated the response to global health threats during President Obama's term in office.

  • She now leads the one campaign against preventable disease.

  • Also joined from South London by Dr Naturally McDermott especially stay in infectious diseases from King's College, London National McDermott.

  • Why do you imagine that?

  • The government hasn't stepped up to the next level on this?

  • Because perhaps they're simply not ready for it or because it's not necessary watching because at the moment it isn't necessary on.

  • In part, it's about making sensible decisions at the right time, and bringing them in at the right stage at the moment isn't felt necessary for us to start canceling public gatherings and so on.

  • And that's a key feature of the delay phase, so I don't think that they feel it's necessary to do that yet because if we start doing that now, it could go on for a prolonged period on.

  • We don't want people to become exhausted by those measures and to start to disobey what the government's requesting.

  • It's much better that we bring them in in a strategic fashion at a time when it is definitely required s so that the public aren't generally exhausted by the measures putting in place on them.

  • There's a degree of debate about testing and whether you could test people earlier.

  • Is it a fact, as I was actually told myself when I came back to Iran that you can't test somebody if they don't have any symptoms?

  • Or is it that actually, we just don't have the capacity to test people earlier?

  • Well, no, Actually, you can test people if they don't have symptoms.

  • The problem is that if that test is negative, it's not a reassuring result because the test looks for the presence of virus in the back of the throat on.

  • If you don't have symptoms, that might be because you aren't infected or it might be just that the the presence of viruses at a very low level that it isn't yet detectable duck by the test.

  • So if you tested someone in the result was negative, they would still need to self isolate for 14 days to clear that period, and they were probably need further tests during that time.

  • So it's not that there isn't the capacity to dio the capacity is there, if required.

  • But it's that we would still be requiring people to self isolate for 14 days.

  • So is testing really of benefit unless someone has symptoms that is suggestive, that they may well have Corona virus flights are still coming into British airports from affected areas, and people are confused that there isn't more of an effort to test everybody coming from anywhere where there has been an outbreak.

  • Is it sensible simply to allow people to drift through the airports?

  • Well, it's not possible to test people as they're transiting through an airport.

  • Whilst example could be sent, it will take several hours for that result to be available, so that wouldn't necessarily help people who are just transiting through an airport.

  • I think that the best policy is what the government has implemented so far, which is to advise people to self isolate at home and to contact 111 If they've come from ah highly affected area on door a quarantined area and they don't even have symptoms on at that point, then 111 can get in contact with them and they can choose to test them or they can choose to observe them for that 14 day period on implement a test if they developed symptoms.

  • This next stage that the government's been talking about, which you have explained why there is a bit of a delay because it's not actually needed at the moment.

  • But what would they look like?

  • Well, the delay phase is simply introducing additional measures to try and prevent the spread of the virus in the UK population, so it doesn't remove the implementation of measures that we have put in place in containment.

  • But it just adds to them by potentially stopping certain events in certain regions of the country that could involve mass public gatherings.

  • Eso if an area of the UK is particularly badly affected and there looks like there's high levels of spread of the virus.

  • Then the government will do a risk assessment, and they may decide that certain sporting events or public gatherings should be postponed for a period of time.

  • They may also decide that schools in that region should be closed for a period of time just to try and reduce the risk of the virus spreading amongst the population.

  • Dr.

  • Naftali McDermott, Thank you very much indeed for joining us.

  • Gael Smith.

  • What's interesting about you is that you had to do this with Ebola.

  • You had to fight in the very immediate early stages.

  • 2015 2014 2014 2050 Andi, I'm just wondering, given that experience, looking across the world, where are we in comparison with what was eventually a successful containment of a bona?

  • I think we are practicing some of the lessons from that.

  • I mean, I think are too big.

  • Takeaways from the Ebola epidemic is the first and most important thing is facts.

  • Now, this is happening in real time, so we don't know everything today.

  • We will know more tomorrow.

  • But the more we can rely on scientists to take the knowledge and data we have, model it.

  • Give us guidance based on what they know.

  • There's nothing more important than this than facts and guidance for the public.

  • The second is that viruses like the's air, the great equalizers.

  • They don't pay attention to borders.

  • They don't pay attention to political parties, affiliation or anything else.

  • And so there's got to be a degree of collaboration across borders to share information, best practices and an effort to wipe out the virus.

  • Of course you were working for President Obama.

  • Yes.

  • How do you feel Mr Trump is dealing with this?

  • Um, I think Mr Trump would be well advised to focus on the facts and rely on some extremely talented scientists and medical experts in the U.

  • S.

  • Government who again, based on the facts, can provide public guidance and every day are taking the new knowledge, not just from the United States from scientists across the world.

  • What we need right now is factual information for the public.

  • And when we look at the United States, you don't really have what we understand is a public health system.

  • I free consultation right across the system because you basically founded on private health.

  • Is that a huge disadvantage to fighting this.

  • I think it may well prove to be a challenge.

  • And as you may know, our health system has been the matter of significant public debate for quite some years, and I expect we'll be into the future.

  • We're clearly gonna have to take steps to ensure that testing therapeutics as they become available.

  • Ah, vaccine when that is available, which is a ways down the road, are made available to people because again, you can't pick and shoes who's tested or treated.

  • These viruses do not pay any attention to who has insurance and who doesn't.

  • I'm very briefly Are you optimistic or pessimistic about this?

  • This outbreak, I thought, perhaps a carpet afford to be either.

  • Well, I'm not sure you can afford to be either, but I also know that we have the information We need to know how to address the threat like this.

  • We will see more in the future.

  • It's information.

  • It's collaborations.

  • Transparency.

  • Gayle Smith.

  • I'm very grateful to you for coming.

  • Thank you so much.

well, John, this is a day, if not of first, then of staggering proportions not seen since the height of the global financial crisis.

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