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like, sit around a fire with whiskey.
Seriously, just listen.
A hamburger history time would be done.
Will be wasted.
Whether problem solving in bone appetites, test kitchen or crabbing in the Alaskan wilderness.
Brad Leonis blooper filled fish out of water.
Culinary explorations are extremely lovable.
So in the spirit of broadening our horizons, I invited the host of its alive to spend an afternoon at Burger Scholar George Moz his house to learn about the history of three classic regional burger styles.
Brad, welcome to the pregnant.
Give thanks for having me.
I'm so excited to introduce you to my mad George Moz stores.
How are you?
Yeah, Whenever I come here, I find out about the region ality of burgers, and I didn't even know that that even existed.
Well, good.
That's better.
I like little education with my food.
And I like you a little history of it deeply.
And you could seriously ask him about anything.
Berger.
He's and he'll have an answer, right?
That's fun.
No, sir, She asked.
I don't have a question right now.
My job is to protect the American hamburger.
I really feel like I'm, like, you know, a bit of a pie, a dollar and a very important job.
Really.
Take it very seriously.
We're about to go on a regional adventure.
The three burgers today are gonna be the Jersey Burger Thebe Iraq, which is from Kansas, Nebraska and the Bean Burger from San Antonio.
Let's get started.
You're from Jersey to New Jersey.
Has a lot of diners, right?
There is a lot of these diners, especially the hamburger of diners.
The small counters they do make sliders.
They still make traditional American sliders.
Sliders based on method.
All right, I like that.
Not on size, not just three little stupid meatballs on a bad brioche bun.
That's a mini me.
Totally crazy.
Many burger is not a slider.
A lot of confusion out there See why you're protecting like the heritage of the burger is very boring.
The mini burgers never tasted.
It would take a porcelain plate.
They put the burger on top of that.
They would let it slide it down the camp.
And that's how I became the slider slider.
Give me a kid at the counter.
Yeah, I like sitting around a fire with whiskey, seriously, and just listen a hamburger history time would be done will be wasted.
This little bigger slider would be like it outs and 1/2 is a three ounce slider Flying.
Put someone in this.
Normally we do.
It takes them thin.
Sliced dahlia onions.
Oh, you steam amount right on their great in there.
They'll based in an onion juice because it was important.
Partners actually presses.
We're gonna make this mash you up.
Yep.
That's his thing.
Yeah.
I see that film anymore.
No.
So, uh, sell down.
I'll get you 1 10 grand.
Email me when you got there.
Little Taylor ham.
Good old Taylor.
Pork roll jersey.
And it up.
Taylor Ham or Taylor?
Pork roll.
So Taylor Ham.
Yeah.
What is where I come from?
No, no one would ever call it pork roll.
Okay, That's like you get closer down there in Philly, folks and stuff.
You're home.
That's perfect.
That's why would you do that?
We didn't.
It would cup up like a pepperoni American cheese.
See, that's where I would have Maybe I think that is very what everyone would do in New Jersey.
I just I'm not a huge American cheese.
No.
Well, I feel like it's understated king of cheeses me off forever.
You know, Americans, cheese.
I didn't have a say in this.
Guess what?
It was invented by a Canadian, of course.
You know, God, it was every time I come here because I believe in a nearby you actually have.
The bun is on top of the, you know, nearly finished products is actually is there steaming right on the count.
And I'm asking you So A friend of mine in Jersey, Rich Belfer, says he invented this.
We'll just have you guys watch me if you wish.
No, no, let's Let's put this for you guys everywhere.
Already had a few today.
Things getting.
So let's see, it actually goes together really well.
Great.
The mixture.
I wouldn't.
And I like that.
It's not a big thing of meat.
I gotta want a 3/4 pound hamburger.
Patty.
Two in one, Big one.
This is like throwing a piece of spam in your burger.
Very simply.
It's really it doesn't even need anything.
Greases account.
Yeah.
I can't find a great diner in New York.
They're all in Jersey for some reason.
Yeah, I know it is back, I guess.
I guess you need someone.
We need a diner.
History guy.
George's cousin.
People for New Jersey hold onto tradition more than anyplace else in the transfiguration They love.
Forget.
Gotta have it.
Because of that, diners cannot go away when people need those things to basically subsist.
And, like the whole lingo of It's Pretty Right Lingo.
Yeah, well, Jersey people have their own lingo, period.
Let's, uh, let's play a little game, shall we?
Yeah.
Game.
That's Mathis's a game.
I want to call Howe Jersey, are you?
Oh, God.
He's got a card, huh?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
They're burger Show guards.
Question one.
I'm ready.
All right.
What is the boss?
The, uh, musician Bruce Springsteen.
Correct.
But, uh is Bon Jovi.
You said the box with a jokey way even mentioned that in the same breath.
My mom, she's probably in the stands, you know, jumping around and shit.
But Bon Jovi's not really.
All right.
Next question.
What is a Benny Benny?
Yeah, someone who that.
That would be like if you went to the Jersey Shore.
Fact.
What is Jeb Bush mean?
Gee, Butch, I don't know if it's offensive or no origins.
I lose my job, My job.
Ooh, chai, guys.
Just like someone who's like, Like, lazy and klutzy and kind of in the way like you be energy boots.
Get out of the way.
I fucking love that.
There's a lot of those guys in my kitchen.
What is a governor goal?
Gotta go.
I think it's like capital.
Uh, get a taxi.
Oh, wait.
He's moved on to the next one.
Checks out the next you're gonna feed it.
We're going to Kansas, Kansas, Nebraska.
Our original specialty that you actually can't really buy in restaurants at all.
This Is this something really?
Only by or you can actually find out, like a church function.
A church function.
Yeah, it's old.
School is an old school thing about looking girl.
What the hell is going on here?
Yeah, we ditch the griddle.
Know Gretel know Paddy Martin's is gone.
We still got our Canadian cheese way.
Got some dough.
The pizza.
I like where this is going so well, we're actually making We're making something that actually predates the American hamburger by a few decades.
Be rock be rocked Iraq.
Where is this from?
It all started in 18th century Russia.
with German farmers settled along the banks of the Volga River.
These Volga Germans adapted a Russian probie.
Create the Iraq a dough filled pockets filled with beef, onions and cabbage that farm hands could stuff into their pockets.
Variations on this handheld snack could be felt all around the world, from the Cornish pastie to the empanada, even the hot pocket.
As the political climate shifted in Russia, Volga Germans eventually migrated to United States.
Spread in the Iraq to the Great Plains, where it became a regional icon.
It's just very stretchy down.
That's all of this girl was pizza dough simply squares stuff off here.
Okay?
All right.
I could have quarters.
Yeah, a little fold the fold.
Yeah, but we fold.
He gets bacon.
That's it.
You're asking, man, be magic.
Here, Have this.
There it is.
Hell's own.
Also in the calzone.
It's a burger.
This is It's I think it's not a burger.
It's expert burger family for sure.
Oh, yeah.
That's the stuff, huh?
Yeah.
Oh, thank you, sir.
See that perfect bite?
Right?
There's Thank you.
Please, I'm not hating on this.
No, it's delicious.
It's pretty damn good.
Give me.
AII 25 of those the definition of a burger to me.
Right now, it's starting to get like, a little a little suit, you know, like it's like to me, that's a burger.
But it's also a dumpling by definition of Burger has to be ground beef.
Cooks somehow served on bread, and that's it.
I agree cam into that.
So everything that we've learned so far, yes, you've got guests at your house.
Yeah.
Would you make them be Rock Burger?
I would, but I just I don't think I'd call it a burger.
Definitely make listen.
I wouldn't call it a burger, either.
Her family.
It's like it's like a distant, weird cousin of the burger in the family, but kind of not really in the family.
But it's fun that get's not want stories come out.
It's fair.
Thank you.
Texas is very well represented.
My book Hamburger America, because there's so much hamburger activity going on in Texas, and then you go to San Antonio and there's the hyper regional bean burger.
Can't beat that flat top, though when it comes to making a burger really is, well, actually cooking in its own fat.
That's really the beauty of this.
You know, we have to put Fritos on Great on the roses on the bottom.
So taxes, huh?
Now, the most important part three fried.
Be excited.
But I love the idea of good re fried.
You have to make your only friend.
You gotta have some animal fat is large for sure.
So good.
Is it straight?
They may put it on top of this.
See, if I was at home, I'd be, like, audible.
We're putting that on the chips.
That's actually keeping it together.
And so raw onions on top, like crunch to go with the crunch.
It's not San Antonio.
Good luck trying to this thing.
Mmm.
That's like some stoner burger right there.
Those chips, onions, drive it home.
It's true.
They drive it home for me.
Brings any texture to it.
Gets a good combo, but the beef fat drips on fifties but like the best way created I'm good.
What would you say was your favorite of all the three?
Uh, I think the I'm gonna go with Taylor Ham till the Jersey burger.
I'm going with the jersey too.
Good.
Maybe it was the 1st 1 Yeah, I was I was starving, but not crazy.
Tasty is fragrant, but it had onion that steamed out and got crispy Saltiness of the pork but not favor deviate from the simple answer, but I would probably eat Maur of the weird Nebraska.
Yeah, the beer on Iraq.
Yeah, Surprisingly awesome.
I'd probably a couple of those problems really get into this regional or what you call it when it's just too ashamed.
Regional, hyper, regional, regional.
That's why that's why I love coming here, George.
Thanks for having us.
Thanks, Brad.
I'm craving burgers.
There should be a nice jersey to still more to do.
I mean, there's so much more out there, that's why Job security.
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