EsoWe'vecertainlyhitthatmarkforthesecondyearin a rowas I employerofchoiceforgenderequality.
So I thinkweshouldbeasIndywhy, proudofthatachievementthatwe'vebeenabletoimplementforthesecondyearin a row, andwewillcontinuetodothatwell, I thinkthatwewillonlygetbetterandforassstuffthathereyoucanactuallylookatsubmissionsthatsupportthoseapplications.
She's also a nonexecutivedirectorofthebigissueHeistOurHomesandtheWaterandLies.
A wholeInstituteofMedicalresearch, apparentlyis a formerpresidentoftheVictorianDivisionofPropertyCouncilofVictoriaas I placejoinmeinwelcomingCaroline.
No.
Allright, well, goodmorning, everyone.
Um, I mightbegainedby I thinkofslipsandslidesonthelegendguy.
I beginbyacknowledgingtheTriciaLinusofthelandonwhichwemakethismorninginmyrespectstoElderispastandpresent.
Thankyou, Indy.
Why?
Andthankyouforthatwarmwelcome.
AndhappyinternationalWomen's Day.
Everybody, um, Andif I canalsoacknowledgemydelightPanelistsDrRebeccaCostsandJoanna I thinktheideaisthatwegettoknoweachother a littlebitbeforewelaunchintowhat I'm sureisgonnabe a greatpanel.
Discussion s o.
When I wasthinkingaboutthat, apartfromtheformalCVreach.
Everyonewantstobreedoutatthebeginning.
Whatelsewould I wantyoutoknowaboutMay?
Well, mycurrentrole, a CZtherementionedhe's aschiefdevelopmentofficeratthecitycenters.
I actuallyhatethetitlechiefdevelopmentofficer.
I don't knowwhy I can't justbetheexecutivegeneralmanagerdevelopmentorsomethinglikethatin a traditionalway.
Butwehad a wholerangeofrolesthatchangedabouttwoyearsago, where a rangeofmymalepeasintothatwithchiefatthebeginningoftheirtitle.
Sotheyfeltthat I alsoneededtobe a chief.
I would'vebeenhappywiththeroleofTotalthewhiteWalls, butitwas a timefrom a goodplaceanyway.
Sothisunity, theunityeaseand I havesixlistedpropertycompanyweownandmanageabout $26 billionworthoffassetsacrossthecountry.
Thecompanyisthemergerbetweenwhatwaas, theColonialfirst I ritofundtrustforthatgandalgrouponthentheotherpartofthebusinessandtheassetscomefromfederationcentersincentury.
Thepedigreeofbothbusinessesismostlyretail.
Butincreasingly, we'reveryfocusedon a mixeduseagenda, whichisaboutlookingatthepotentialaboutrealestateandtransformingthoseassets, whicharelargely a singleormaybeeventwostorybuilding, withthreetellingthemin a seaofcarparking, lookingatthatrealestateandsighingwhatalltheotherthingsthatwecoulddowiththatrealestatein 2020 2030 2040 2050 onFundamentally.
Frommypointofview, thatmeanstransformingwhat a traditionalretailassetsintorightplaces.
Rightplacesthatpeoplelovethattheywantbeingand I wanttoconnectwithotherpeople, involves a capitalspendingabout $3 billionoverthenextthreeemployeesandintroducingthingslikeofficesandhotelsandresidentialservicedepartments.
Andyou'veseenit's dosomeofthatstuffalready.
A placeslikethatblamingBloomWaverlyinthehotelintheofficeitChestonandsomeoneprideofassumes.
Hespent 13 yearsatGrowCorn, and I know a lotofpeopleintheroomfrommytimethere.
Variousrolesfrominhousecounsel 32 Hitofdevelopment, deputyCEOandCEOGarconisundoubtedly a verydifferentusestodaythanitwasvainbuttinganyrespectwhen I thinkaboutworkoninmytimethereinthe 50 yearsbeforethat?
Um, it's undoubtedlyninefullandbestrememberedforconceivingindeliveringsomeofMelbourneindustry's mostmemorablebuildings, likeRealtorinthe M.
So I mightaddthatndwhywas a consultantonalmostallofthosebuildingshavingsettlethat, uh, upagainmycareeras a propertylawyerworkingformetoEllison a studiedlaw, inpartbecause I wasacceptedintothedegree.
Ah, that'llsorry.
Asanimpressionableteenager, therewas a showofshowingmyagenow a greatshowonTVcalled L.
A Law, whichdepictedthelifeof a lawyerhasbyinterestingandglamorousandthemeaningoffameintheshow I wassexyashell.
When I resignedatmentors, had a lotoffunthereonLancelotatthepartnerwhoworksformesaid, I'llCarolanythingneeded a job.
I wouldhavehopedtoget a properjob, whichwasn't particularlyinspirationalonMondaywhenitbrokeon.
I wasn't sureatallthathehadn't gotitentirelywrong.
I hadcompletelyunderestimatedthemagnitudeofthechangeofgoingfrom a T onemoreforhiminthebigtowerinthecityto a highprofilebutneverthelessprivatebusiness, a zabuilderanddeveloper.
AndwhenmyhusbandcalledmeatlunchtimeonDayonetoseehowthenewgigwasgoing, I reallyhadtodoallthat I couldnottoactuallycry, and I'm notreally a cryout.
Butum, bythenandnow, oftenreflectedonthetrainingthatreallygreatcompaniesprovidetheirstuffthatthesekindoforganizationsmake a reallybiginvestmentinthere, butpeopleingeneralandtheyoungpeopleinparticularandend a wisemydifferent.
I'm sure I'llcertainlysawmyselfas a beneficiaryofthattrainingandinvestment.
Havingsaidthat, once I wastheclient, asopposedtojustadvisingtheclientwasalwaysgonnabeprettyhardformetodoanythingelse.
Anditwasreallythenthat I beganmylotoftherewithbuildings.
Ontheotheristheamazingtermsofpeoplewhoyougettoworkwith a longway.
Andinrealestate, I thinkoneofthebestthingsisthatnoneofthesebuildingshavebeen, infactwithoutlotsandlotsofpeopleacrosslotsoforganizationscomingtogetherandcollaboratereallywelltoput a projecttogetherandsayittolive.
So a constantreminderofwhatpeoplearecapableofinnovativethinking, extremeproblemsolvinginjustthehardgroundofgetting a projectupanddelivered, andalso a reminderofhowmanywonderfulprofessionalsworkingnowindustrytough, sometimesbrutal.
But I feelveryluckytohavebeen a partofit.
Mostdayswhen I cometowork, I don't thinkaboutbeing a woman.
That's nottosaythatone, but I haven't beenheatonin a professionalcapacity.
I wasyoungoncetofoundmyselffeelingslightlyuncomfortablewhen I'm literallytheonlyfemaleat a dinnertableof 30 or 40 men.
Rebeccahasservedas a boardmemberofCentralCrystalboardsandhasreputationherexpertknowledgeacrosssustainabilitystewardshipdecided 1,000,000,000 implementationthatyouain't sincesigningdevelopmentgoals, andsheholds a PhDinconservation, environmentalmanagementas a globalexecutive.
It's a place.
Joinmeinwelcomingbackup.
Thanksverymuchforthelovelyintroductionbecauseyoucansee I'm verticallychallengedand I justneedtopushitdownfurther.
Thankyou, Indy Y andalsoJohnsonforinvitingmetospeaktoday.
Separately, it's actually a verytightlyintegratedknowledge, said, whichwecouldlearn a lotfromwhenactuallythisapproachisthefoundationofwhat I wanttotalktoabout.
Today.
I have a PowerPointpresentationofbeing a Sancheztoknowthatfreaks A lotofpeopleoutthereprobablyexpecttablesgrass, andit's fartooearlyonFridaymorningtodothat.
And I haven't hadenoughespressostodothateither.
So I'm notgonnadothattoyou.
Um, I justwanttoexplaintheconnectionofenvironmentalsustainabilityisanindependentandimpartialoffice.
Dr.
GillianSparksisthecommissioner, andshe's wantedfortickets, andlatershehas a backgroundactuallyinminingandLiszt, andshewaselectedbybipartisansupporttobecommissioner.
Andthisishersecondtothem, andwedo a lotofthestateoffreporting.
Doesanybodyknowwhattheyareorhowtheyimplementedonepersonatthebackof a person?
Right?
Fantastic.
Sojusttogive a quickbackground, thesustainabledevelopmentgoalswerecreatedbytheUnitedNations.
Soit's a preprosecutedframeworkandtooltoeunderstandtheinteractionsbetweensociety, economics, thenaturalenvironment, politicsandalsothejudicialsystemaswell.
I thinkit's a greatframeworkandit's not a perfectframework, but I thinkit's a greatframeitbecauseyoucanstarttoseetheinteractionsbetweentheseelementsandhowtheseactuallyplayoutinoursociety.
So I'm justgonnasharewithyoubrieflywhy I likethissystem's mindsettodoingsustainabilityoverthepast 3 to 4 yearswithexperience, quite a lotofdroughtwhichhadcontributedtothefire's thatwesawoverthissummerseason.
And I promisedthatasdepressingasmypresentationwillbay.
Butupuntilthissummer, whenyouknowthingsgotquiterealwithclimatechange, when I usedtotellpeopleaboutwhat I dooutsideofthesustainabilitysector, I couldseetheirbodylanguagechanged a littlebit, andtheyhadthislookcomeovertheface.
And I knewthattheywerethinkingthis, that I justgoaroundbeinghippietrustfund.
Andfreshwaterserviceis, and I think, tobe a sustainabilitylaidout.
Youneedtohavethatsystemsmindset.
A lotofscientistsdivedeepintothePassionprojectarea, whichisgreat, buttheyhave a difficulttimein a maintenancerespectfullycomingbackup.
Um, andthat's sortofwhat I bringtothetable.
Um, as a Marinescientiststothisquitequiteoften, in a lotoftimeswhere I'vebeentheonlyfemaleinthediveboatsosimilartowhatcareWhenyouweresayingtheyonlyseemoutthedinnertableOncedowninTasmania, howdidyouafford a diveoffthecoastofMariahIslandtoduel, hopingshoulddatacollectionand I wastheonlyfemale, butitactually I didn't thinkaboutituntiltheheadoftheDiveResearchProjectcameuptomeandsaid, YoumaynotwanttocomeoutontopontopofthedeckoutfirstthinginthemorningAnd I waslike, Why?
Andhesaid, Oh, youknow, theguysjustsmart, youknow, be, youknow, usingtheoceantodothings.
And I'm like, Okay, justdon't askquestions.
Juststayedinmycabinuntil a littlebitlateroninthemorning.
Soyeah, I justforMayaswell.
I don't thinkthat I'm theonlythingnowthere.
I justfeellike I'm partofthegroupandpartoftheconversation.
I alsowanttodebunkthemeansthatsustainabilityispurelyjustaboutthenaturalenvironment.
Itactuallyishoweconomics, socialvaluesandthenaturalenvironmentinteracttogether, andit's verymuch a longtermview.
Sowheredoesthisallcometogether?
Soif I applytheEstherJeez, Frankwenttomythinkingintotheworkthat I doandspecificallytogenderequality.
Andsoyoucanseethatgingerqualitydoeshaveisinfluencedbyanotherotherinputsbutalsohas a lotofoutputstrue, thatcanbenefitsystemoritchy.
So I personallythinkthat a societywehavethepowertocreatethechange.
Um, eventhough I workingovernment, I don't thinkweneedtowaitthegovernmenttohavethoseincentivesforustocreatethatchange.
And I thinkwealsoneedtomoveawayfromhaving a conversationthat's inbinaryoppositiontoeachother.
It's thespaceinthemiddlewherethesolutionscome, and I thinkhavingthoseopenandtransparentconversationsandmiddlewellactuallyallowustomovetowardscried a gingerequalityandalsoequality.
You'reHannahis, I guess, thesustainabilitysuperstarinourminds.
Anyway, she's got a diversebackgroundisthatwe'reallsuchasarchitecture, sustainabilityandused a consulting, Uh, thisrangeofdesignandengineeringandstakeholderengagementexperienceinformseveryprojectsheworkson.
Andwe'rereallyexcitedtohaveheronoutingthatduringyour 14 yearsoflocalandinternationalindustryexperience, you'reHannahhasdeveloped a keeneyefordesignintosustainabilitysolutions.
She's a certifiedpassivehousedesigneranddirectorforpartnershipswiththeAustralianPassingHouseAssociationwith a greatpassiontoestablishhisworldleadingenergyperformanceandindoorcomfortstandinginAustralia.
SopleasejoinmeinwelcomingGoodmorning, everyone.
Wrongdirection.
Okay, soeachwereequal.
Whilewe'reactuallyhere, I havetoadmit, when I wasfirstaskedtotalktoday, I didn't feelparticularlycomfortableaboutit.
Andit's notbecause I don't likepresentingortalking.
Actuallytalk a lot, and I reallyenjoyed a Typically, I talkaboutbuildingphysics, youknow, that's mytopic.
Genderequalityisnotquitemytopic, and I havetosayit's also a bitof a tendertopic, especiallyas a womantalkingaboutit.
Youquiteeasilyarebeingperceivedasbeing a feministandactivist, which I'm not.
Butit's yousaid, isthesustainabilityconsultant.
I mean, let's faceit, we'reseenasbeingtreehuggersandactivistsanyway, so I thought I madewheretalkabout, youknow, genderequality, a swell.
Sobringiton.
Mypersonalstorystartswiththetriple F factor, and I cameupwiththetripleeffecterwell, maybe 10 yearsago, when I wastalkingtomyhusbandoneevening, I wascomplainingtohimabout a situationatwork I wasn't happyabout, and I saidtohim, Nowonder, because I havegotthetriple F defectorandhelookedatme.
What's thetripleeffect?
And I think, youknow, can I justmadeitup.
Butlet's faceit, I'm famous.
I'm foreignand I'm inmyfertileyears.
Soletmetellyouwhatthetripleeffecteractuallymeans.
Sobeingfemalein a maledominatedindustrywhichthebuildingconstructionindustryeasesometimesfeelslikebeinganexchangestudentin a foreigncountry, youknow, youlookdifferent.
Foraboutsevenyearsbefore I decided I'd liketogointosustainabilityanddid a master's degreeandclimateengineeringand I camebacktoMelbourneandwaslookingfor a jobintheresponse.
I alsoworkforsometimeintheplanningfield, andthat, I guess, was a littlebitof a detouruntiltheindustrymatured.
Andthere's finallyspaceforpeoplewith a designbackgroundinthesustainabilityspace.
SocomingbacktomytripleEFSdid I havewhatittakestohave a successfulcareerintheengineeringindustry?
No, definitelynotontwo.
I foundthis.
I cameacrossthisquote.
Why?
Whyfitinifyoucanstandoutas a graffitiatSouthYarraStationand I stillrememberthatdaywasactually a beautifulmomentwhen I realizedHangon, weactuallynolongerintheStoneAge, youknow, intheStoneAge, itwasreallycriticaltofitinbecausefittinginmeantsurvivor.
Where's wherewearetoday?
I guessdiversitiesnotcelebrateddifferenceisamazingthere.
Sorry.
Important.
So I realized I reallyneedtoembracemydifferencesratherthanhidingthem.
Soyouhave.
HowifthesedifferencesworkedforMay.
So I mentioned I'm anarchitect.
So I guessthatmeans I canbringdesignsolutionsratherthanjusttechnicaltechnicalfixestothetable.
I'vegot a planningbackgroundthatthatmeans I cannavigateapprove.
Itsprocessisprettywell.
I knowwhatit's liketobeontheotherside.
I'm German.
I'vegot a strongconnectiontoGermany, totheEuropeanbuildinginthestraight.
That's offgreatadvantageifyouworkinthesustainabilityspiceand I'm a mother, whichtaughtme a lotofpatients, a lotoftoleranceand a lotofefficiency, andallofthatisextremelyimportantintheworkspace.
So I'd liketosay I I'vecometopeacewithbeingdifferent.
It's actuallyanopportunity, not a disadvantageanymore.
So I'vespoken a lotaboutdifferences.
I'vespokenaboutdiversityinourworkforce, inoursociety, and I thinkyou'd allagreewithmethatdiversityiseffect.
And I'd liketoencourageyour, um, makingtherightchoicesforyourselves.
Thatalsoforothers.
Thankyou.
Thanks.
You, Hannah.
Well, I thinkwe'rereadyfor a reallyinterestingdiscussionwiththreePaneliststhismorning.
I'm officially I justintroducedthatthesame.
Really?
SheisInternationalWomen's Daytogive a bitofcontextto a paneldiscussion s o the 2020 sameistornfromthenotionofcollectiveindividualis, umsowe'reallpartsof a whole.
Weallhaveindividualactionsandconversationsandbehaviorsandmindsetsthatimpactonsocietyas a whole.
Whatdoesthisactuallymeantoyouwanttothesameofthe 2020 internationalwomen's I madethyoucheckhim, havingworkedoutthismorningtostoriesabouttiesthatincidentin a supermarketinSydney, Thetoiletrolls, uh, humanbehavioraimsembracingeachotherandtheirrespectivestrengthsandhowwecombinethosethingstodoreally, reallygoodbeansasitappliestoyoucreatingtheseelementsexplosivenessanddifference.
I justthinkwemightseemswaytoocomplicatedandwaytoohardintheconceptofusalltreatingeachotherthewaywetreatedourselvesjustcannotbetterthatpeoplecan't getaroundthatjustPhoebemostpowerfulaboutsomethingthatwecouldmay.
It's abouthelpingoutthisup.
So I'vebeenmentoringYoungminthepast 10 yearsacrossgovernments, academia, privatesector, whowouldimprovethesustainabilityoftheshipskillsandmayeachequalsallowingthosewomentostepupandfeelconfidentwithinthecellsonchallengethemselves, goingforthenextstepandandjusttobeheardaswellIt's amazingwhen I speakto a lotofyoungwomenthattheyhave a lackofconfidence, notsurehad a networkandmakepeople.
Soit's actuallyatanemploymentlevel, a promotionlevelandtalentteachinglittlewheretheindustryhas a problemthatwantingtodulldownwhat's reallygoodconversation.
Allthoseemployees, verymeantohaveit, couldhave a talkaboutwhatthey'redoingtotheenvironment.
Tohavethosewomendoalltheworkofgettinggreat, getting a jobandthenleavebecausetheyactuallygoingtoworksomewhereelseindifferentindustries.
Certainlypreparationthat I had a carnotmayapplyingbutthebusiness.
Recognizingthissuitedtootherthingsorhavemorepotentialon, I'vebeenluckythattheywerethat I hadsomeonewhowaswatching.
Sono, I'm notcasingpointofwhattodoit.
It's a littlebitofpocketback.
Youhave a planforthebeans, but I actuallyget a reallyhumanlittlethatmystegoodpeopleshould.
I reallyshouldonlywaywithpeople.
I actually I'm interestedinthepeoplethatworkwithbeinghappy, sobeingreally, reallyspeakaboutwhatyourexpectationsareyourself.
Butwhattreatmentsareoutsideofwork.
He's really a Z in a verybicyclethatourdaughteris 12.
Allright, backtoworkwhenshewasfourmonthsold.
Myhusbandhadsomeonesevenslave.
Hetookbashedinoneofthebasic.
Wehave a deeperbank, veryequalparentsthingthatfirstweek, fivetimesdyingtotalkaboutwherestuffWozand I thinkbythatfooljustlittlewashideouslyembarrassingthathehadtoringmeaboutfacebyseethings, andthenitbecameveryindependent.
What's upwithweightgainscandowhateverinoutliningpeoplethatotherthingsgoingonwithinformationmostpeoplearecapableofmakingthepresident's Ifyou'reholdingbackfrompeople, theyformedtheirownconclusionsaboutwhat a cruelshouldbedoing, andthat's puttingyourselfandthenreallydisappointedtodecidewhetherit's put a childinthebath.
So I reallyneedtotalktoyounowormymom's unwellmentally, reallytoday, that's all.
We'reneedingtobeavailable 24 7 So I had a H u recordyouhunted.
Howdoyousitboundaries.
Sorrythatthatyoumaintainthatworklifebalance, butyou'restillfocusedonyourcareerandyoursuperGraysonandhittingtheRajerectionso I neverhadwithfelons.
I justwithsomevery, veryaspirational.
So I gohit, hitintoeverything.
And I do, Um, exampleismyparentssee I didmyPhDparttime.
Doeshehave a scholarship?
And I wenttootherparttimejobsatthesametimeas a Marinescientist, andtherewasabsolutelynobalance, and I wentoutanotherpretty, quite a badwaywhatthatdoestoyourbody, mentallyandphysically.
But I eventhough I likethatlisten, I'm stillgoingtochange, andit's actuallynotuntilthisyearthat I haveactuallystoppedandlookedaftermyhealth.
Sowhat I dois I turnedmyscreensuplike a M 89 andjusthavetimeoutformyselfwithmyhusbandjusttalkingaboutbeingsorreadingbooks, whatevermything.
So I thinkthat's reallyhealthyandsomethingthat I'm tryingtodomoreandmoreintermsofftheworkplace.
I workedwith a lotofmillennials, andthat's a positivething.
It's not a negativething, andwhat I'm actuallyobservingisthattheMillennialsactuallysetboundariesforthemselvesabouthowtheywanttoworkandwhentheywanttowork, oneoftheguys I workwith, heonlywantstoworkfourdays a weekbecausehewantstobe a dad.
That's right.
Andwefullysupportthat.
Anothermillennialthat I workwithshe's reallyclearabout.
Unfortunately, unlessweactuallymeasurethesethingsthat I tendtogetmanagedincorporatelargebirdswhenthatstarts, towhichhe's takingoff, thebanksareunder a lotofwe'reallalltherightreasonsunder a lotofpressuretoexplainwhytheywerewantingorganizations.
Whiletheyshouldhave a sociallawsincetooperate, usingtheoldviolationrightthreetowheretheybindserviceisformydisease.