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  • Okay.

  • This is gonna go under your arms around your chest.

  • Okay.

  • Is your stage name Cale Pen?

  • Yes, it is.

  • And you're known as Kumar from Harold and Kumar, among many.

  • Are you sick of being asked if you're high right now?

  • No.

  • Are you high right now?

  • No.

  • Is that true, Berry?

  • That's true.

  • Damn.

  • I should have shown up high.

  • Let's start by talking about your life.

  • You were born in New Jersey.

  • Is that right?

  • Correct.

  • But you went to college in California.

  • Did you?

  • Trying to distance yourself from your family?

  • No.

  • Um, you see, it was the best couple I got into That happen to be very far away.

  • So did you miss your family while you were in California?

  • I did.

  • I missed the whole East Coast.

  • Obviously, including the parents of family you graduated from U C L.

  • A.

  • In 2000 corrects were you at all concerned for y two K?

  • Uh, that's a good question.

  • I think we were all concerts.

  • That's an interesting one, because you laugh about it now.

  • At least I love about it.

  • Yeah, I think we were concerned.

  • I'm not a big like fear guy.

  • so I don't think I was terrified, but I think considerable.

  • Your question was concerned.

  • Yes, I think we're concerned.

  • Did you buy any emergency rations?

  • I don't think so.

  • My recollection is that we had a flashlight and like, a bottle of water, just in case, which is a pretty weak just in case.

  • It's hard to remember because I'm usually so high.

  • Do you remember where you were the night of New Year's Eve?

  • 1999.

  • Oh, God, I gotta answer this.

  • Honestly.

  • Yes, I do.

  • You do anything reckless that night?

  • I, um I went to a New Year's Eve party at Hunk A bunker in Centerville.

  • What's that?

  • If you grew up here and listen to top 40 radio in the tri state area, you know what?

  • That it's Did you play saxophone in your middle school band?

  • Yeah.

  • Were you any good?

  • What a subjective question.

  • I like that.

  • I was fantastic by 13 year old standards.

  • I was fine.

  • I wasn't in the honors band.

  • Do you still play?

  • I don't.

  • I still have the saxophone, but I have not played it in years.

  • Is it true that your mother was a fragrance evaluated.

  • Yes.

  • So do you always smelled this good?

  • I would like to think that she was able to bring samples of cologne home from work often enough that I definitely was like the weird 15 year old sometimes that cologne on in high school.

  • What about now?

  • I do have calling on now.

  • Expensive clothes.

  • It's not expensive cologne.

  • I, um I have Abercrombie and Fitch Cologne on right now, and along with axe body spray, I get lots of compliments for these two things.

  • And when I bragged to some friends about getting compliments from strangers about how good I smell, they were very quick to point out that that's probably because I reminded them of old sexual partners.

  • But I'm still rocking those two, and I still get compliments.

  • Do you think you smell better than Barry?

  • I did not get a chance to properly smell Berry, so there's a very little control group going into this of widens.

  • But that is I will acknowledge that that's avoidance because he's at the controls.

  • You've taught film classes at U Penn, is that correct?

  • Yes, You said on the Late Late Show that you're a very strict professor early in my class.

  • I waas so early in the semester.

  • I was very strict.

  • And then I lose it because I wanted to make sure that people were taking my class for the right reasons, meaning that they actually wanted to learn.

  • And they did not get excited because Kumar was teaching a film class.

  • And the first day I'll in the class and talked about how it's impossible to get in A unless you do all the reading.

  • Because 10% of the greatest pop quizzes in the classroom, based on the reading for the week and so I think it was like 40 people drop the class immediately.

  • Do you think you could have passed your own pop quizzes?

  • I could have passed the pop quizzes.

  • I could not have gotten the name my class.

  • Did anyone get in it?

  • Yeah, a lot of people did, And then I failed to students.

  • They tried to pass off other people's papers on the road.

  • There's a whole plagiarism thing that's harsh, man.

  • Yeah, You ever check your rating on rate, my professor dot com?

  • No.

  • Do I have one?

  • I looked it up and you don't seem to have one.

  • Okay.

  • Thank you.

  • That's good.

  • Were you expecting a good rating?

  • I remember the course of elevations that came back, and they were They were mixed.

  • Did that hurt your feelings?

  • No, not really.

  • I think it was.

  • You know, the class wasn't for everybody.

  • And also, I'm not attritional instructor, but I was terrified when he just asked me a question like, Man, I hope I don't have a rate.

  • My professor.

  • Let's move on to your career.

  • Would you say your breakout role was playing Taj in Van Wilder?

  • Probably.

  • Yes.

  • Well, yeah, probably.

  • Harold and Kumar was definitely a bigger leap, But my first real credit on a on a studio films Did your parents watch the film?

  • Uh, yes, it's, you know, it's a it's Ah, late nineties, early two thousands party movie.

  • So the tone of it's not Shakespeare, but I remember bringing them the script.

  • They read it and I remember my mom saying in a very shocked the voice that she turned a page.

  • Oh, my gosh, this is pornography.

  • I was like, Oh, no, here we go.

  • And then, like we're talking about what is and isn't pornography, which was horrifying.

  • But I was glad that we did it with the script so that they knew what to expect and, more importantly, knew not to call all of their friends proudly to say You guys should all go see this movie with myself.

  • Do you think that was the first time you talked about pornography with your parents?

  • Oh, definitely.

  • Yeah, Yeah.

  • I hope that checks out because otherwise I've got some memory issues.

  • Was this man Ryan Reynolds easy to work with?

  • What a handsome man.

  • Can we just show our friends were watching Is your camera behind me?

  • And I need to hold this up.

  • What a handsome man he was not only easy to work with.

  • He was a lot of fun to work with.

  • I'm a huge fan of this guy.

  • Did you see Deadpool?

  • I didn't see that.

  • Did you see Deadpool to iser that pool to?

  • I've been really busy guys.

  • So you know.

  • Is there deadpool too?

  • Let's talk about the big one.

  • Harold and Kumar go to White Castle.

  • Is it true you don't smoke weed?

  • Uh, yes.

  • And you also don't eat meat.

  • Correct.

  • So is it safe to say you were acting disingenuously, uh, no.

  • Acting, as Meisner said, is living realistically under imaginary circumstances.

  • You didn't know it was this much of a herd.

  • It's kind of what I loved about the movies is I'm not a stoner in real life and I try to eat healthy.

  • I say this having just even fast food before I walked in here Before you get to that question.

  • So I hate answering the question on the street like, Hey, do you want to smoke a joint with me?

  • Which happens often Embarrassment of riches stoners.

  • I used to be honest and say Sorry, I don't really smoke and they would be really devastated, not just disappointed, but like they felt wrong.

  • So now I have stopped saying, I don't really smoke weed and I've started just saying I'd love to, but I've got a thing.

  • I gotta run to a meeting.

  • I got to run to a thing.

  • Or, like, how about a high five instead?

  • See, you don't want to smoke weed with me after this.

  • Uh, no, we could do that.

  • Are you and this man actually friends, or is that a lie too?

  • Uh, yes.

  • Jon Show is a brother to me.

  • Also.

  • Look at how Twinkie I am.

  • Look at that.

  • What happened?

  • So, yes, we were friends during the movie and we're still friends.

  • You'd say he's a classy guy.

  • He's a super classy.

  • Yes.

  • So is a real friend.

  • He still let you wear that go shell necklace?

  • Yeah, he gave it to me.

  • Give me the book.

  • It shell necklace.

  • Is that true?

  • No.

  • You're the star of the new show Sunnyside, right?

  • The character you play, Garret, his career is ruined by drug charges.

  • Is this something you can relate to?

  • Garrett's life is more disrupted by alcohol charges.

  • So he gets pulled over for walking on the beach, Huey here in New York for being drunk and then tries to bribe a cop in the original script of the pilot.

  • He's also doing coke with some hookers.

  • But that got cut because we're on NBC.

  • Bribery.

  • Perhaps the biggest thing.

  • So, thankfully, I have not to my knowledge bribed anybody.

  • Have you ever been pulled over and use your celebrity status to get out of a ticket?

  • Uh, yes, but it has not worked.

  • So I was riding with a friend who was speeding and we got pulled over, and I didn't know if that kind of thing works or not.

  • But then I was like, as he was writing the ticket and got his license and went back to the cop car was just like, Well, at least like say hi.

  • Maybe he does like your movies that can he could make the ticket go away.

  • So when the cop came back, I was like, Let me thank the officers, like lean forward was like, Thanks, Officer.

  • Sorry for the trouble.

  • And the cop was like, Oh my gosh, I didn't know you were in the car.

  • You should have said something earlier.

  • I already put the ticket in the system.

  • Too bad.

  • Why don't we move on to pop culture?

  • Is it true that your first agent was Barbara Cameron, the mother of these two child stars?

  • Yes, my first agent was Barbara Camera and mother of he's also child stars.

  • Did you get to meet them?

  • I did separately years later, so I met Candace Cameron in Barbara Cameron's office once when I was first, starting out on by met Kirk Cameron a couple of years ago on like some talk show that he was doing a different segment of you ever meet anyone else from the cast of Full House?

  • I don't think I've met anyone else from full House.

  • John State.

  • Most would be cool to me.

  • Lori Laughlin is in jail.

  • I hope.

  • Um, the others are around but haven't had the privilege.

  • You've taught both film and politics courses at reputable universities, right?

  • I have to consider yourself a film buff.

  • Uh, I consider myself a film buff.

  • That doesn't mean I am one.

  • I have huge holes and things that I've seen.

  • And then I've watched, like, obscure, random things that people don't watch too.

  • In your scholarly opinion, Would you say once upon a time was Tarantino's best movie?

  • Uh, no, it's according to read it.

  • You met a couple backpacking in the Himalayas and invited them to join you in L.

  • A.

  • Partially true that the general sense of the story is true.

  • I was shooting a movie in the Himalayas a couple years ago, and there was a couple that lives literally lives around the world, and we all became friends.

  • And I said, Come visit me not just in l A I think it was Toronto that they visited me.

  • So they follow it up?

  • Yeah, they followed up.

  • Were still in touch.

  • You ever seen the movie taken?

  • Is that Liam Neeson?

  • Oh, yeah.

  • Yeah, a long time ago.

  • Aren't there multiple?

  • Take un's.

  • Yep.

  • Okay.

  • Yeah, I think I've seen taken in retrospect, was it wise to trust these strangers?

  • Okay, does it didn't worry me that I would get kidnapped.

  • I felt like there was enough of a vetting because we were in the Himalayas for almost six weeks.

  • I felt like my ability to vet them for creep factor was pretty strong.

  • So it didn't cross my mind that they might kidnap me.

  • But it does cross my mind generally that somebody might sometimes I worry about that too.

  • Like here, for example.

  • I don't know any of you.

  • That's right.

  • Any point during this interview did you lie and we didn't catch.

  • You know, Barry, I wanted to kind of lie just to see if it would pick it up.

  • But this is quite serious.

  • No, I know.

  • That's why I'm not trying to make a joke.

  • It's weird.

  • I immediately got nervous when I strap this on because you watched a lot of movies where this is on.

  • And then I noticed this is like a super old school lie detector test.

  • At least it looks like when it's in a suitcase, which is even more intimidating.

  • The only suggestion I would have to make it even more intimidating is if you rocked a monocle.

  • Maybe I'll get a monocle, that Z only thing that could make this more intimate.

Okay.

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