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  • Thank you so much.

  • Janet.

  • This is This is extremely cool.

  • And I'm very, very, very honored to be here, Especially after that intro.

  • I'm just gonna locate my water now.

  • We had a good night last night.

  • It was it was very exciting.

  • So I'm here because I directed a film called Book Smart.

  • I can now call myself a South by Southwest Film Maker, and that is a huge honor.

  • It also makes no sense.

  • I'm an actress.

  • Most people know from movies and TV streaming currently for free in your hotel rooms and hopefully on airplanes, where altitude takes everything from a 62 and nine.

  • So I appreciate you all being here today.

  • Maybe you've seen book smart and you like it.

  • And you're curious.

  • I hope so.

  • And you're curious as to how the hell of first time female director got to make an R rated comedy about smart girls.

  • Or maybe you haven't seen it, But you're someone as unlikely to become a director as I was.

  • And you're curious and skeptical and maybe a mixture of both.

  • So I'm here today to explain how I got here my entire life.

  • All I wanted to do was act.

  • It's been been my dream since I was five years old.

  • I announced it to my parents before kindergarten and freaked out when my older sister starred in her high school production of The Pride of Miss Jean Brodie, which she was so fantastic in.

  • And it really threw me into a tailspin because I was the best be in in the family.

  • That's how much I really identified with Bigon, actress since a young age.

  • For 30 years, I put everything I had into making that dream come true, and it did.

  • I'll always be grateful that I've been able to achieve that dream.

  • I've been able to pay my rent, doing what I love almost everything that I had wanted to do.

  • I had done by the time I was 27.

  • But as time went on, I couldn't deny that something didn't feel right.

  • I was unsatisfied because the paradigm that I was brought in to where I was told to just look pretty, sit in front of the camera, don't ask questions.

  • Don't give us your opinion.

  • Didn't work for me anymore.

  • It's like hearing about a party you've always wanted to go to and then you finally get invited to that party and you get to the party and you realize the party's sucks and you have to take over the deejay booth because you don't want to leave the party.

  • You just want to make it better.

  • I realized that if I wanted things to change, if I wanted my voice to be heard, I was gonna have to shift the paradigm from within.

  • And that's really hard, especially because I've been working in this industry since I was 18.

  • So four years just getting 17 years, almost two decades, which is truly insane.

  • I got to celebrate my 35th birthday here last night at our premiere on It was truly the most special day of my life, and I have two kids.

  • So don't tell them that I moved to L.

  • A in 2002 right after graduating high school for going college to work as an assistant for a casting director.

  • I did this because I read somewhere that Catherine Keener did this, and that's all I needed to know.

  • Truly, I was fresh out of boarding school, huh?

  • We're skipping College was unheard of and Everyone thought I was insane, but I was determined.

  • Okay.

  • I worked for a brilliant woman named Mali Finn.

  • She was extraordinary at her job as a casting director.

  • Seriously, Look her up, even if you've never her name.

  • Never heard her name before.

  • She is responsible for a movie you've loved.

  • She's cast over 88 films, including Titanic L A Confidential, The Matrix elephant.

  • Uh, all the real girls.

  • I could go on forever.

  • And she had a very real knack for discovering new talent.

  • She was infamously tough with the highest possible standards for preparation, professionalism and creativity.

  • Much later, I learned that a family friend it helped me get that job as a way to dissuade me from wanting to go into show business.

  • She thought a few 100 hours of sorting headshots would alert me to the unlikelihood of me ever making it and would send me back to the East Coast with my tail between my legs.

  • But I couldn't be deterred.

  • Malley was inspiring in a town where most people were expected to get famous based on facial symmetry, Malli demanded brilliance.

  • She would routinely throw people out of an audition room for not being off book or having any original ideas, and then would casually asked me to call the agent and tell them their client should come back when they've done the work.

  • I would then pick up the phone quivering with fear while I dialed, see a and waited to get screamed at.

  • But now they're my agent.

  • So things have really come full circle.

  • And I'm very, very grateful.

  • She was amazing at her job, and she was doing her job as the most important and least appreciated collaborator of her directors.

  • This is a right we have to wrong.

  • You guys know casting directors get enough credit for the value and talent they bring.

  • Two movies.

  • They are essential to the process and the texture of a movie.

  • And they should be celebrated with more awards and accolades than any other department I can speak towards.

  • My brilliant casting director on book smart Alison Jones, who is the most brilliant woman.

  • And without her, the movie wouldn't exist.

  • I learned a lot from Ellie.

  • Some of it is seared into my brain forever, like her lunch order gazpacho.

  • No onions at a mommy, no salt cottage.

  • She's no fat.

  • I will remember that as long as I live.

  • When she first asked for it, I had to Google every single item.

  • I was from the East Coast.

  • It was all very new.

  • I would spend the first half of every day sorting headshots of women who looked eerily like me and wondering how the hell I would compete with them.

  • I didn't have a head shot, had no idea how to make one, and my resume included 14 high school productions and a special skills section detail ing three different styles of horseback riding.

  • And then, during lunch, I would dredge up the courage to ask Molly questions about how to build a career as an actress looking down at her cottage.

  • Huge, no salt, she would.

  • She chewed her food silently and then gave me the best advice I never took.

  • Create your own content.

  • Make what on Lee you can make.

  • This is invaluable wisdom that applies to every aspect of the filmmaking process.

  • Write the script only you can write.

  • Shoot the film on Lee.

  • You can shoot designed the set, the way only you can design it and play the part.

  • The only only way you can play it.

  • It took me a decade to understand that, but like a lot of good advice, it didn't sit, get sink in tow much, much later.

  • I was 18 and my plan was to, you know, be discovered by some genius filmmaker.

  • Wist, too, can asked about my process and say things like, I just trust my director and let go So, you know, I was so desperate to be someone else's muse.

  • It didn't even occur to me that I could be my own.

  • Eventually, I scrapped together.

  • A head shot entered the dizzying shitstorm of pilot season pilot season doesn't really exist in the same way anymore.

  • But back in the Jurassic age of network television, an actor with no real experience could audition for three or four pilots a day, never reading the entirety of any script because they didn't give it to you.

  • Just flash memorizing a few pages of sides before marching into a cattle call of 18 to 35 year olds in various stages of bitterness, I naively tried to make friends with the other girls in the waiting room.

  • My secret was that I brought many of these same actresses coffee while they waited to be seen by my own boss.

  • But this was war, and there was no time for pleasantries.

  • And then a miracle happened.

  • An actress got fired from a pilot at the last minute, and I was cast to replace her to my complete shock.

  • It got picked up, and suddenly I was the lead in a one hour drama on television.

  • I kid you not.

  • Within one hour of being cast, I was swept off to a hair salon to get my hair bleached Barbie blonde before a fitting where, I was told the producers wanted to see as much navel as possible.

  • And oh, what I mind trying out these chicken cutlets until one size was officially approved by the male producers.

  • It's easy to cringe now, looking back, but in the moment I was thrilled I had been cast as the lead of a TV show.

  • This is what I came here to do.

  • It was big time.

  • I shot my first scene at Mel's Diner in Hollywood at 2 a.m. With an entire film crew standing around and gawking at how much food I could eat because I didn't understand that actors didn't actually eat the entirety of the prop departments work during eating scenes.

  • And I thought, I've made it now every single time I drive by that males, I want to run in and grab that Barbie blonde chicken cutlet container and drag her out of there.

  • But here's the thing I needed to know that career.

  • To understand that I didn't want it.

  • I needed to achieve my dream to realize that I could dream bigger.

  • Years later, I would learn that the actress originally cast in that role had been fired for, and I quote, not being fuckable enough.

  • What a town to dozens of people's disappointment.

  • That TV show was canceled after three episodes, but I had my foot in the door.

  • I got auditions and meetings, and soon I was a working actor.

  • In many ways, my career has been everything that I'd hoped for.

  • I got to be a part of one of the first high school lesbian relationships ever aired on television and work with my heroes behind and in front of the camera and play someone who became a Lego.

  • I've been in good and bad movies directed by brilliant people and a few hacks.

  • But recently I realized that I've been have been in over 50 movies and TV shows, and I have never been in a movie that passes the Bechdel test.

  • That test is, of course, named for cartoonist Alison Bechdel, and it defines its criteria as follows the movie must feature to named women who speak to each other about something other than a man.

  • That's it.

  • That seems like it should be very doable.

  • Look, Helen, it's raining.

  • That's all you need.

  • I mean, stranger concepts abound in Hollywood.

  • This is the business of imagination.

  • Ah, woman is more likely to have a love affair with a fish than speak to another woman about something other than a man.

  • It was kind of a stunning realization.

  • I'd love to the stories I've been a part of telling, and I hadn't even noticed how little agency women had in them.

  • I was starting to feel the boundaries of the paradigm I was stuck in, and I didn't like it.

  • Ah, huge turning point for me in my career and an incredibly meaningful moment in my life in general happened here at south by Southwest in 2013 when we premiere drinking buddies.

  • I'd been to the festival many times before, but this was the first time I felt really creative ownership of a project.

  • I was a producer on the film, and I felt our tiny team had truly crafted something unique together.

  • It was an entirely improvised film.

  • Joe Swanberg's process was initially terrifying and bewildering to me.

  • No script, no predetermined description of the character.

  • I was supposed to play no studio, no guarantees.

  • But I wasn't just an actor for higher.

  • We were attempting to create something from nothing.

  • The process was going to have to outweigh the result, because any results other than us all watching it together on a food Thanh seemed very unlikely.

  • I found that incredibly liberating.

  • I suddenly found myself operating from a different part of my brain.

  • I wasn't acting.

  • I was telling a story and people liked it and found it truthful and still approached me with I, P.

  • A's and tales of their workplace romances.

  • I'm grateful for that movie because it shoved me into the realization that my instincts might actually be worth listening to.

  • I finally understood that I enjoyed controlling my own narrative and that I might actually be good at it.

  • Sitting in the Paramount Theater for that premiere was the moment I decided I was ready to take more control of the stories I was telling.

  • I knew I had something to say.

  • I wanted to be a part of a movie that passes the Bechdel test.

  • I felt I wanted to be the boss and be in a position to hire people the way I wanted to and create the set environment I'd always wanted to be on.

  • But acknowledging that you want that opportunity is only the first step, because then you have to demand it.

  • When the people who hand out money picture director the usually picture of fresh face dudes and baseball hats and glasses who can barely grow a beard and they don't picture the actress, they've pegged a someone's wife or mother or love interest.

  • And I say that knowing full well that I was still in a better position then, so many people I'd worked with directors I could reach out to for advice and encouragement.

  • I had relationships with producers and executives.

  • I could collaborate with my career as an actress, had given me really enviable access, but I couldn't wait for someone to offer it to me.

  • No one can.

  • This industry, like many industries, is designed to reward and promote the things that have worked before.

  • For decades, the only people who directed movies were men and white men.

  • So the only people who made any money for studios were white men.

  • And so the only people studios trusted to direct movies that made money Where white men, the system is a horrible cycle of Onley giving opportunities to the kinds of people who have had opportunities, and we have to crack that system open.

  • We have to force our way in and demand that our voices be heard because I want to hear your voice.

  • I don't want to hear the same story tellers over and over.

  • I want to hear what you have to say Now more than ever, we need different perspectives and new stories and new, shocking points of view.

  • The world gains nothing by making yourself small.

  • I want you to make yourselves big so you can help shatter this model.

  • This pattern I was really, really lucky to grow up in a household where some of my first memories were my parents telling me that I could do anything I wanted.

  • If I worked hard.

  • They believed in me so strongly.

  • It held me over until I could believe in myself.

  • I heard, Yes, you can do that my whole life.

  • And if any of you didn't have that, I'm telling you right now, yes, you can do that.

  • Sometimes it's harder and sometimes it's longer and you'll hear many nose.

  • But you can do it.

  • Here are some of the nose you're most likely to hear and how you should respond to them.

  • I don't think I can do this.

  • The first and most important, no you have to get rid of is the no that comes from yourself.

  • You are the only yes you can control.

  • You have to give yourself that first, Yes, so you're ready to demand it from everyone else.

  • You've never done it before.

  • You can't direct a movie until you've proven you can direct a movie.

  • That's the Catch 22.

  • A lot of people are caught in, but if people won't let you direct a movie, do whatever it takes to show people you can direct direct a play, make a Web series assist in an acting class.

  • When Molly told me, Create your own content.

  • She meant, in that time rent a camera, shoot something to mail in an envelope to a casting agency and just hope they watch it.

  • It's gotten so much easier right now.

  • You can take your phone, make something gorgeous that displays talent.

  • Despite a lack of budget, you could be filming this speech in a cool enough way that someone would watch it and think, Holy shit, look what they did with the camera or the editing or the music.

  • Just start to get it down yourself.

  • When people told me they couldn't consider me as a feature director because I'd never done it before, I directed a music video.

  • Then I directed another music video, and I directed a short film.

  • I tried to create a body of work that should be doing it so no one could claim that I couldn't.

  • You don't know enough.

  • I think a lot of people, especially women, think they have to wait until they know everything before they can take this step.

  • They're like, I don't know anything about lenses, but you know who knows something about lenses?

  • Your DP directing is all about delegation.

  • You should learn as much as you can about who you need to hire and what they need to know.

  • But you don't need to be an expert in every single aspect of filmmaking.

  • You need to know the story you want to tell and who you want to work with to help you tell it.

  • Also, if you think you know everything, you will be a terrible director because you won't listen to anyone or collaborate on anything.

  • The best directors know what questions to ask and know what answers to have.

  • Okay, so after you've gotten through all these nose, doing something new is terrifying.

  • That fear prevents so many people from taking the leap.

  • If anyone seen the fabulous documentary Free Solo, you You know what I'm talking about If you haven't go leave right now.

  • But the documentary is about Alex Honnold, a free solo rock climber and one of the most extraordinary athletes in the world.

  • Alex does one of the scariest things in the world, and he has a really incredible thesis on fear.

  • He says that you can't change the thing you're afraid of.

  • You can't change the enormous rock you're going to climb with no ropes or the things about directing that frightened you.

  • All you can do is expand your comfort zone to envelope your fear, and the way you expand your comfort zone is by learning as much as you can.

  • I was never going to be able to change the things that are scary about being a director, putting yourself out there and asking your cast and your crew to take a chance on you and the number of answers.

  • I'd have to say I have to have every day on set.

  • So instead, I needed to expand my comfort zone by being as prepared as anyone could ever physically prepare.

  • So I produced another film with a first time director, read Murano, where I got to learn more about the logistical aspects of making a movie and watch her work to absorb much of the experience as I could.

  • I directed those music videos in the short with each project, I felt the comfort zone growing and growing.

  • I asked everyone I knew their advice on every specific part of their craft, even if they didn't work in film.

  • I asked about leadership or collaboration or general workplace advice.

  • I went back to directors I'd worked with and drilled them for information and recommendations and as many details as they could remember about what it's like to be behind the camera.

  • And I kept thinking about what Molly said when I was 18.

  • Create your own content, Make on Lee the movie you can make and make the movie you want to see.

  • I did all that preparation.

  • So when I came across the story that felt personal and specific enough to be told in a way, only I could tell that would be ready.

  • And that's how I felt when I came across book smart.

  • I wanted to make a movie like the ones that inspired me and changed my life when I was younger.

  • Those generational high school comedies that make you laugh and happy and also seep into your brain and help you see the world differently.

  • And book smart is a movie I wish I had seen in high school.

  • A movie about smart girls whose intelligence was just one of their weird, specific, amazing qualities about best friends who love each other like soul mates and how we all just want to be seen one of the most valuable and meaningful things I did before starting book Smart was asking money as many friends and co workers and directing heroes there.

  • One piece of advice before you went off to direct, I collected all their varied specific wisdoms, kept them at the front of my brain the entire time.

  • I wanted to share some of those that I found most valuable.

  • Hire people with something to prove.

  • It is a completely different experience to work with people who have something to prove who are ready to launch their careers with you.

  • They will work harder.

  • They will.

  • They will link arms with you.

  • They won't be patronizing.

  • They will learn alongside you and they will work.

  • Their ass is off just to make the best possible thing.

  • Learn to pivot.

  • You got to ride the horse in the direction it's facing.

  • You decide to direct because you know the story and you want to tell.

  • But a movie is a living, breathing thing.

  • You can't make a movie without adjusting to the chemical equation of the actors and the location and the weather and the props and the costumes you have in front of you.

  • If you lose your dream location, you adjust the scene to reflect your new location.

  • If you audition, someone who may not be right for the part is written, but you know would be fantastic in the movie.

  • Rewrite the part for them if you were expecting a sunny day, but you're outside and it's raining, adjust the scene to reflect the reality of the weather.

  • For example, when we started filming Book Smart, I wanted the character Molly to be obsessed with hip hop because I was obsessed with hip hop in high school.

  • But after casting the extraordinary Beanie Feldstein and starting to actually film the scenes and watch this character developed, I realized we had to lean into what the real character of Molly was in front of me, not just what I had pictured in my head.

  • We pivoted, and she made it more extraordinary than anything I could have possibly imagined myself.

  • Give yourself permission to change your mind.

  • If you've hired someone or decided on something and you feel in your gut that something is wrong, you have to listen to that it does not reflect reflect badly on you to change your mind.

  • If you're thoughtful and confident about it, firing someone or changing your mind can be the most important thing you do.

  • If you know in your heart something is wrong.

  • In my experience, it's one of the hardest things to do.

  • Is a director or a boss?

  • It's painful and difficult and scary, but it's vital.

  • Find at least one true partner.

  • This is a collaborative process.

  • We're not Walden in a cabin creating something alone.

  • Theo.

  • Only way to do this is to find at least one person you can truly trust and make them your partner.

  • I discovered my collaborative partner in the process of making book smart Katie Silberman, a writer and producer that I'll work with for many, many, many, many years.

  • And it's extraordinary what happens to you when you link brains with someone who can help you flesh out your ideas.

  • It makes you feel so much more powerful and inspired than you do on your own.

  • Don't sit down.

  • I mean that metaphorically as much as physically.

  • The easiest way to imagine directing is to to picture your name on the back of one of those classic director chairs.

  • But on book smart, we never even unloaded those chairs from the truck.

  • We never sat down, not while we were filming.

  • Not between setups, not even during lunch.

  • And I mean that metaphorically as much as I do.

  • Literally.

  • There's always something to do.

  • There's always something to fix or to think about or to try to do better.

  • Also, if you don't sit down, other people won't sit down.

  • And the whole set has a different energy where people are eager and excited to keep working.

  • I believe in lunch.

  • Making a movie is hard.

  • It's long hours, logistically frustrating, and you're trying to be creative and open while basically running a construction site.

  • There were a lot of times on set where it felt like we weren't getting anywhere or we're going in circles and we were short on time.

  • So it felt like we had to keep pushing.

  • But sometimes you need to take a break, eat some food, inhale, exhale, trust that when you come back with a full belly, you'll have a new, fresh, valuable perspective.

  • Don't take your foot off the gas.

  • There are a 1,000,000 reasons not to make a movie.

  • They're expensive and difficult and a risk every single time.

  • And if you give anybody an excuse to not spend that money or not, take that risk.

  • They'll take it.

  • You have to be the movies biggest champion at every single stage.

  • If you don't, it'll fall apart.

  • Once I was making one, I realized how many movies happened because of the sheer will of a director or a producer who will not let it not happen.

  • You cannot give up.

  • That includes developing the script, casting pre production production, post production, marketing.

  • Basically, until somebody's buying a ticket, you cannot let up.

  • There's so many milestones in the process where it feels like you're done and you should take a moment to celebrate them.

  • But then you have to keep pushing.

  • Even getting into south by was a moment to celebrate.

  • But then we had to focus on what we would do here and the marketing and the festival itself, and how to really maximize the experience and to value it.

  • You can't take your foot off the guests.

  • Don't dumb yourself down.

  • Work with people as smart as you are.

  • If you find yourself dumbing yourself down to meet your collaborators, they're not the collaborators for you.

  • Ideally, find people smarter than you and work to rise to their level.

  • So actually, people smarter than me.

  • Don't listen to that one.

  • Keep asking advice.

  • You don't have to take everyone's advice.

  • In fact, you definitely shouldn't take everybody's advice.

  • But keep asking for it.

  • You can always keep improving.

  • There's a wealth of experience to tap into.

  • Keep expanding your comfort zone over and over until it encompasses everything.

  • There's one more thing I want to say to get into the Q and A.

  • I love acting, and I'm really proud to be an actress.

  • But looking back now, I realize, of course I wanted to be an actress because that's really all girls had to look to.

  • If you wanted to work in movies, The only place you saw women was on screen, and they were usually someone's wife or daughter or mother, and they were there to assist a man's journey or arc.

  • There were sporadic heroes like Nora Ephron and Amy Heckerling and Penny Marshall, but they were rare.

  • They were the exception to the rule.

  • It was hard to picture yourself anywhere than in front of the camera other than in front of the camera.

  • And that's why it's so thrilling to imagine my two year old daughter Daisy, growing up in a world where she sees movies like Book Smart, directed, written, produced, production design edited sound mixed by women.

  • And she sees yes.

  • And she'll see other directors like Read Maranto and Patty Jenkins and Ava Duvernay and Greta Gerwig and Mari Heller and Debra Granik and Karen Kasama and Dee Rees and Catherine Hardwicke, Lawrence Ghaffari A and Lynne Ramsay and Mary Knight Era and Gina Prince, Lied Would and Elizabeth Banks and same Sam Taylor Johnson and feel that directing a movie is just as likely for her.

  • A starring in one Now for all those ladies, I'm excited to try and expand your comfort zones as much as possible by answering whatever questions you guys have about directing or being on set or the moviemaking process or anything else.

  • So bring them on and please feel free to ask technical or specific questions about the process of editing and of directing.

  • Women tend to spend a lot of time talking about what it's like to be a female director.

  • Why?

  • There aren't more female directors, which is important.

  • But because of that, we don't get We just don't get to talk about directing as often as the guys do.

  • And I'm really happy to have that conversation, so I'll ask her some questions.

  • Thank you so much.

  • Hi.

  • Hi.

  • Um, I don't know.

  • Okay, So my brother and I have really bonded over your work on Bojack.

  • Horseman.

  • Thanks.

  • We adored I play a deer named Charlotte.

  • Yeah, Charlotte Charlotte really spoke to us.

  • In fact, lead to one of the best episodes in Siri's.

  • Thank you, but, um Okay, so two quick questions, but the first one's not gonna take long.

  • Will I be, like, asked to leave by big, scary men if I took out my phone and ask for you to say something to my brother?

  • No.

  • Okay.

  • Thank you so much.

  • All right.

  • So, um yeah, just whatever you want to say to Matthew.

  • Yeah.

  • Anything.

  • Anything you want to say that Matthew, he's 15.

  • He and I just bonded so much over your work, and it means so much to us.

  • It's one of our favorite shows.

  • What's your name?

  • Michael.

  • Okay.

  • Ready?

  • Yes.

  • Matthew, you have an extraordinary brother.

  • Michael, who thought of you today wanted to make this video for you.

  • And so value your relationship with your brother.

  • He seems really awesome.

  • I'm happy I get to be a part of your bonding experience.

  • And I hope you guys watch book.

  • Smart thief.

  • So, um my all right now, now to the not fan question a talking shop.

  • But so there are a lot of powerful feminist statements, a lot of powerful statements about Hollywood and Bojack.

  • Horseman.

  • There's a lot to say.

  • And I wanted to know what you felt you contributed to that conversation and how you came into contact with that show.

  • How did you get to be a part of such a thing?

  • You know, it's really interesting that all happened because of drinking buddies.

  • So really, it all comes back to south by, um uh, you know, because when you make something that's really from your heart and authentic, it's always your best work.

  • And that's what happened with drinking buddies, which then led to the creators of Bojack really liking that movie and saying Hey, you seem like you created a really cool character there.

  • You want to do it on our show.

  • We're trying to really break the mold and do something weird and different, and we're gathering together people who want to do things differently.

  • So that's what brought me to them.

  • And they gave me a lot of creative agency.

  • And I think that is why that show is so great, because the writers allow actors to bring a lot to it.

  • And when you have like Amy Sedaris, you should let her do whatever she wants.

  • But that's why.

  • So it's finding the authenticity, and your heart will lead to other great things.

  • Thank you so much.

  • Thanks, Michael.

  • Hi.

  • I wanted to ask you a question about your collaboration with your editor because a lot of filmmakers who were just starting out creating their own content and doing it directly right, act.

  • That's what happened with me a lot.

  • And so I wanted to get your take on that.

  • The importance of finding a good editor and then how you work with them in the Edit Room?

  • Absolutely.

  • My editor was Jamie Gross.

  • She's extraordinary.

  • Uh, it was really fantastic tohave a woman of such great kind of intelligence and experience, but also a really open mind.

  • So that's what I would suggest finding in your editor someone who has opinions but is really open to kind of finding your rhythm and understanding your vision.

  • Being an editor must be such an intensely difficult job because you have to be so steadfast in your own talent and skills while also really being able to kind of tune into a director.

  • Um, I really appreciated that she had those strong opinions, but she really understood right away what we were going for.

  • We had this amazing room of Katie Silberman, Jamie Gross and myself sitting there gathering, trying to figure out the best way to tell this story.

  • And I I will work with Jamie for a long, long time.

  • She's extraordinary.

  • Thank you so much.

  • Thank you.

  • Hello, Book smart, by the way.

  • Great.

  • Hey, Thank you.

  • So I've got a couple questions on pretty quick.

  • So, um, technically or logistically, what was the most difficult and challenging thing you found about directing a feature?

  • Okay.

  • So, technically, I would say we were forced to shoot an enormous amount of material in 26 days and we didn't have all the money in the world s O.

  • It was about figuring out the most efficient way to tell the story.

  • We also had four weeks of night shoots in the summer, So we'll spring.

  • But in L.

  • A.

  • I can tell.

  • And, um, so it was not very much night is my point.

  • We had to shoot very, very efficiently.

  • So technically it was about again hiring.

  • Well, Scott Robertson was my a d.

  • He's the best a d in the business.

  • And he worked with me to figure out how we could be efficient.

  • It meant we never sat down.

  • We never slowed down.

  • So when we had time before our next scene, we would rehearse before next shot.

  • We rehearse the next scene.

  • We were constantly working, so I think you have to remove the kind of old adage of, like, hurry up and wait.

  • No, take that out.

  • Hurry up and work.

  • There's always work to be done on, and then quickly.

  • So I go to a school where there is a high interest in filmmaking.

  • But there isn't a filmmaking program, so me and a bunch of my friends started up like our own organization has been running for a few years where we make short films every semester.

  • So I'm kind of curious.

  • Like, what kind of advice would you give us in terms of cultivating this creative atmosphere and teaching as people who don't really have guidance and haven't done this before?

  • How should we, like, approach the filmmaking process and teach others like, How should we build that atmosphere?

  • Well, I think you should, uh, invite people to come and mentor.

  • It's big.

  • Filmmakers really like doing that.

  • Don't be shy about it.

  • I think Reach out to agencies and describe your program and say, Can you help me bring in some mentors and create a mentorship program?

  • I think people really enjoy passing on their experience.

  • Um, yeah, that would be my first step.

  • Awesome.

  • Thank you.

  • Thank you.

  • I just want to say that I have an eight year old niece.

  • Who?

  • Her genius to be a director.

  • Wow, That's amazing.

  • She was a director for Halloween with the whole she had the whole array and writing beret.

  • I forgot the beret.

  • Yeah, So she has two younger sisters and she gets frustrated because they don't do what she wants him to do.

  • She's already starting out as a great director, so I always tell them that it's not about time what to do.

  • But it's about collaborating with, and I've noticed since yesterday and today.

  • One thing that really is outstanding about your rhetoric and your speeches is how you do not hesitate to spotlight your collaborators.

  • And I just want to ask.

  • First of all, that's amazing.

  • You don't not many people do that.

  • And I don't want to ask how intentionally that how to really do that?

  • Because you hear about the director on tour tour and that's not a reality.

  • And the edge when I say How intentionally is that?

  • And have you ever considered doing something where I'm sharing the advice that you just give right now in something like like a book or or or or some form of a blogger?

  • That would be cool.

  • Um, I'll try to get a few more movies under my belt before I publish my book about directing, but I really appreciate that.

  • I do think for me the reason I think I'm I.

  • I really enjoy highlighting all my collaborators on this is because I realized once I started working, that's why I hadn't directed earlier.

  • Because there is this myth that the director is This is a singular, powerful presence and that everything should be attributed to them.

  • It's simply not true.

  • And it's damaging because it prevents people from trying to direct.

  • If we understood that a director is simply the person who hires well, delegates well creates the most fertile environment for people to do their best work, someone who empowers and lifts up.

  • It is difficult because you have to create a unifying vision.

  • And as I said, the films that does feel like a construction site, it's chaotic and and it sometimes it can feel like making the actual movie and telling the story is the lowest priority because people just want to get home.

  • You have to shift that.

  • I knew the kind of set I had always wanted to work on was one where every department had felt really passionate about the project.

  • So I hired people who felt open to that experience, and I'm very grateful because I know every day of the process of this film that none of it would work if one of those people wasn't as passionate as they were, so it gives me great pleasure to highlight them.

  • We had our production designer Katy Byron was here last night.

  • She flew from Portugal, where she was working to be a part of our premier because she was really proud.

  • She production, design that movie on a shoestring, And I'm I'm excited to highlight them because I wanna work with all of them again.

  • It's a group effort, and that's what makes it fun.

  • Thank you, and that's refreshing.

  • You almost like out walking credit.

  • Hello, I My name is Mrs Anna, sort of teacher, and I miss Anna Children's books on YouTube and this sort of ties into what he was asking is, I would love to see a Children's book about a group of girls may be putting on a play in school, but showing how the teamwork is so important, collaborating with each other.

  • Yes, Children.

  • Hey, that's a great idea.

  • I love it.

  • Thank you.

  • Wonderful.

  • And I would love to read it.

  • That's great.

  • Okay, I'll get on it.

  • I'll get on it and shout out to all the SL interpreters of every session.

  • Thank you.

  • Very good.

  • Hi, I'm Katie.

  • I'm of a corporate video producer by day and have my very small, independent production company outside work trying to make it in that indie film world.

  • But as you just mentioned, it could be really daunting to feel like as a director, producer, like you have to do it all like, create your own content and write it and yes, in it.

  • And do all of it.

  • Yes.

  • And I aspire to do that one day.

  • I love that idea.

  • And I would love to have that much control, but I'm wondering if you could give me some advice or insight into how you found such incredible women to work with that are amazing writers and producers and can help me bring that vision to life.

  • And like, where you found that script and you with money?

  • Yeah.

  • You know, the nuts and bolts.

  • I appreciate that.

  • Yes, that's helpful.

  • Well, the interesting thing is that there are so many women who are so talented who want to work.

  • And there's this myth like there's no women in Hollywood.

  • Well, they're all there.

  • It's not for lack of talent, but it is for lack of access because they have been left out of the conversation.

  • So one thing I would say is that when you're reviewing resumes for people to work with, often the people with the most experience are going to be white men because they're the ones who've been given the opportunities.

  • You have to look beyond resumes and just start asking people who may have worked on one thing or no things.

  • What is your, uh, creative sort of mindset?

  • Does it link up with mine and really just asking people because it will be about that chemistry.

  • It will be about that shared vision.

  • It will not be about how many credits they have.

  • Um, you know, on book smart, we had people from all different levels of experience.

  • I made my good friend Brian Ling be our music supervisor, not because he was the most experienced music supervisor.

  • He is a very awesome music person in many different ways and manager and has his own company.

  • But I knew he had the same vision for the music for this film, and we did that in a few different ways.

  • I think it's just about really communicating with people about what your vision is, and somebody might say, I know how to make that happen with you.

  • I wanna work hard with you.

  • So it's really about gathering people and talking to them about what you want to do and someone will link up.

  • That's great, thank you just quickly.

  • I guess when it comes to the script aspect of things like You sounded like you knew exactly what kind of movie you wanted to tell you mentioned Kind of high school, almost John Hughes EU type film.

  • Yeah, like, Did you put a call?

  • No, that's yes, that's really important.

  • Well, I found that script because of my friend Jessica album, who runs Gloria Sanchez, and it was really, really exciting because she produces big movies and she thought of me for this and dared me to pitch on it, and because of her confidence in me, I went for it.

  • She knew that it would be a script that I liked, I think, because she knew me.

  • She knew meditation, my sense of humor, and so she thought of that.

  • So it's also important thing when you're in the position where you have access to material to think about all the directors that maybe no one else is thinking about and be like.

  • This person hasn't done anything, But I really think they have something to say.

  • So I'm gonna give them this chance.

  • So because of Jessica, I had the opportunity to pitch on the script and once I got the job, which was a huge shock because I literally pitch It is a training day for high school team comedies.

  • But they liked it and they got They understood it.

  • I needed a collaborator and needed a writer to help me re imagine it.

  • And I wanted to be really careful about that decision, and that led me to find Katie Silverman.

  • And when she and I first spoke, she unlocked the script for me.

  • She took it to a whole other level, and I was like, Oh, this is so exciting.

  • But it was again, just a guy who introduced me to Katie.

  • So she had her mind out for like, who were the people who were gonna link with this one person who I thought of for this script.

  • So I did get very lucky, because these people came into my life, but it's cause I had been.

  • You have to be open about what you want to do.

  • You got to say, you know, I think for women.

  • Sometimes we're a little shy about saying like Hey, I want a direct I want to tell stories If anybody has won, I'm really here and available and I really like to do it.

  • People will think of you.

  • So that's how that process got started.

  • And then it was hard, hard work and we linked up and we we fought like hell to make the movie we wanted.

  • I hope you like it.

  • Hi.

  • So I actually have a question about one of your earlier roles.

  • Did you realize the importance of playing one of the best lesbian relationships on TV at the time?

  • Well, it's really incredible because I think the experience of it is sort of evolved over time.

  • I was initially not really sure what the effect of it would be.

  • I was surprised by the response of the time this was in, like, 2000 to 2003 and it was sensational and it made news, I think, because it was the first time a relationship.

  • It wasn't just like a flash in the pan, sort of like make out session.

  • It was a relationship portrayed in a normalized way between a character.

  • Hood was America's sweetheart on a teen soap, finding herself with this woman, and it was It was really, really kind of special.

  • But I didn't really understand the significance when we did it, and then people started coming up to me and saying that I had helped them.

  • I feel comfortable with their own sexuality and help them see themselves, and that started inspiring me to want to be a part of more things that allowed for that.

  • But what's fascinating is to see how far we've come as a society, because when we were making book smart, there was a scene where the one character Molly said to Amy, You've been out for two years and you've never had a lesbian experience.

  • I want that for you.

  • And as we were shooting at, the girls called us over and said, Guys like we don't really say lesbian experience.

  • We just say experience and I was like, Oh my God, we're old ancient dinosaurs and everybody is involved in wonderful now, and it's much, much better.

  • But that was the moment I was like, Man, you know, we've come a long way, but it is so important to be representative and storytelling still.

  • And the OSI really alerted me to that.

  • Cool.

  • Thank you.

  • I also have one more quick question just relating that other woman's mission with the scripts they got.

  • Did you approach her?

  • She come to you like did you make it your own as in he went looking for it or something.

  • Just you know, it's interesting because opportunities will come in front of you and you can choose to take them or not.

  • You can choose to grab hold of them.

  • No one is gonna egg you on.

  • And Jessica offered the opportunity to pitch, but she wasn't gonna hold my hand.

  • She nudged the door open and dared me to walk through.

  • And I went and pitched and I gave it everything I had.

  • And then when meeting Katie and working on the script, we kind of did the same thing.

  • No one was saying Great.

  • Well, here's the money.

  • It was like we'll see what you guys come up with, and then we worked really hard to get it to the place where someone would actually want to green light it.

  • But, um, it was it was the process of, like, grabbing onto something that may be kind of a passing opportunity and holding on to it.

  • And then and then really?

  • Yeah.

  • Being determined.

  • Thank you.

  • Thank you.

  • Yeah, here, on the father of four daughters that are just starting their careers.

  • And this might be a question for your parents, but since you're here, any advice for me to make sure that I am raising them, empowering them on supporting them?

  • Go after, you know, to kind of fight against misogyny.

  • We kind of see at times and follow their dreams.

  • No matter the societal Vladimir, The fact that you ask that question means you're already doing it.

  • So you have nothing to worry about.

  • That's extraordinary.

  • I would say, though what I feel like my dad did for me was really just believe in me.

  • The world is going to be critical, and it's so important to build a foundation for your Children that they can return to where they think even when someone knocks me down, even when I experienced failure.

  • There's someone who thinks I'm great and it's really that simple.

  • And I really enjoy the opportunity to do that for my own kids.

  • Just build this foundation of true belief in them love for them that's so steadfast that nothing else can really blow them over.

  • Thank you.

  • Thank you.

  • Hi.

  • I saw Book Smart yesterday, and it was hilarious.

  • I loved it.

  • I wanted to know about your collaboration with the writer because it felt almost like a like a writer director movie and who felt very personal.

  • And I wanted to know if after you finished the script and you've got relate, if this script changed a lot and if you worked on it, if you think about writing Oh, gosh, Well, I was really lucky to work with Katie Silverman because she was so good at kind of helping me flesh out ideas.

  • I would sit there and kind of pace around like it feels like this, you know, the feelings and she'd be like, Okay, I'll put that into actua

Thank you so much.

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