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  • How often have you wondered what your spouse is really thinking?

  • Or your boss?

  • Or the guy sitting across from you on the bus?

  • We all take as a given that we'll never really know for sure.

  • The content of our thoughts is our own-- private, secret, and unknowable by anyone else.

  • Until now, that is.

  • Neuroscience research into how we think and what we're thinking is advancing at a stunning rate,

  • making it possible for the first time in human history

  • to peer directly into the brain to read out the physical make-up of our thoughts,

  • some would say to read our minds.

  • This is the technology that is transforming what once was science fiction into just plain science

  • is a specialized use of MRI scanning called "functional MRI", fMRI for short.

  • That makes it possible to see what's going on inside the brain while people are thinking.

  • You know, every time I walk into that scanner room and I see the person's brain appear on the screen,

  • when I see those patterns, it is just incredible, unthinkable,

  • "Mind reading"? I don't kn... What do you call it?

  • "Thought identification"

  • Whatever you want to call it,

  • what neuroscientist Marcel Just and his colleague Tom Mitchell at Carnegie Mellon University have done

  • is combine fMRI's ability to look at the brain in action with computer science's new power to sort through massive amounts of data.

  • The goal: to see if they could identify exactly what happens in the brain when people think specific thoughts.

  • Okay, you're ready to get to start it?

  • They did an experiment where they asked subjects to think about 10 objects

  • --5 of them tools like screwdriver and hammer,

  • and 5 of them dwellings, like igloo and castle.

  • Then recorded and analyzed the activity in the subjects' brains for each.

  • You have them think about the screwdriver,

  • and the computer found the place in the brain where that person was thinking "screwdriver"?

  • Screwdriver isn't one place in the brain. It's many places in the brain.

  • When you think of a screwdriver,

  • you think about how you hold it, how you twist it, what it looks like, what you use it for,

  • -and each of those functions are in different places? -Correct!

  • Just says When we think "screwdriver" or "igloo" for example,

  • neurons start firing at varying levels of intensity in different areas throughout the brain.

  • And we found that we could identify which object they were thinking about from their brain activation patterns,

  • You are reading my mind!

  • We're identifying the thought that's occurring. It's...incredible, just incredible.

  • Are you saying that if you think of a hammer, that your brain is identical to my brain when I think of a hammer?

  • Not identical. We have idiosyncrasies.

  • Maybe I've had a bad experience with a hammer and you haven't,

  • but it's close enough to identify each other's thoughts.

  • So, you know, that was never known before.

  • We asked if his team was up for a challenge:

  • would they take associate producer Meghan Frank, whose brain had never been scanned before.

  • and see if the computer could identify her thoughts?

  • Just and Mitchell agreed to give it a try and see if they could do it in almost real time.

  • So you never done an instant analysis with...

  • -Nobody's done this, ever.

  • -Never. -Nobody's done this, ever.

  • -That's actually her brain? -That's her brain.

  • Inside the scanner,

  • Meghan was shown a series of ten items and asked to think for a few seconds about each one.

  • If it all comes out right, when she's thinking "hammer", the computer will know she's thinking "hammer."

  • Right.

  • They will done.

  • -So Megha, -Yes.

  • -How was it? -It wasn't bad.

  • Good.

  • Within minutes, the computer, unaware of what pictures Meghan had been shown

  • and working only from her brain activity patterns as read out by the scanner,

  • was ready to tell us, in its own voice,

  • what it believed was the first object Meghan had been thinking about.

  • I think the word is KNIFE.

  • Then a second.

  • I think the word is HAMMER.

  • Alright.

  • I think the word is WINDOW.

  • -It's perfect, right? -So far.

  • And it continue to be, word after word.

  • APARTMENT

  • -Ten out of ten. -Ten out of ten.

  • Well done, well done.

  • -According to Just, this is just the beginning. -Exactly.

  • Who knows what you're gonna be able to read,

  • -That's right. -Scary, actually.

  • Well, that's our research program for the next five years, -That's right. -Scary, actually.

  • Well, that's our research program for the next five years,

  • What?

  • To see what, you know-- we're not satisfied with "hammer."

  • And neither are neuroscientists 4,000 miles away in Berlin at the Bernstein Center.

  • John Dylan Haynes is hard at work there using the scanner not just to identify objects people are thinking about,

  • but to read their intentions.

  • So we get to start that with experience.

  • Subjects were asked to make a simple decision--

  • whether to add or subtract two numbers they would be shown later on.

  • Haynes found he could read directly from the activity in a small part of the brain that controls intentions what they had decided to do.

  • This is a kind of blown-up version of the brain activity happening here.

  • And you can see that if a person is planning to add or to subtract,

  • the pattern of brain activity is different in these two cases,

  • I always tell my students that there is no science fiction anymore.

  • All the science fiction I read in high school, we're doing,

  • To Paul Root Wolpe, director of the Center for Ethics at Emory University in Atlanta,

  • the ability to read our thoughts and intentions this way is revolutionary.

  • Throughout history, we could never actually coerce someone to reveal information.

  • Torture doesn't work that well, persuasion doesn't work that well.

  • The right to keep one's thoughts locked up in their brain is amongst the most fundamental rights of being human.

  • You're saying that if someone can read my intentions,

  • we have to talk about who might in the future be able to do that?

  • Absolutely, whether we're going to let the state do it or whether we're going to let me do it.

  • I have two teenage daughters.

  • I come home one day and my car is dented and both of them say they didn't do it.

  • Am I going to be allowed to drag them off to the local brain imaging lie detection company

  • and get them put in a scanner? We don't know.

  • But before we've even started the debate,

  • there are two companies already offering lie detection services using brain scans,

  • one with the catchy name "No Lie MRI."

  • But our experts cautioned that the technique is still unproven.

  • In the meantime, Haynes is working on something he thinks may be even more effective:

  • reading out from your brain exactly where you've been.

  • Haynes showed me an experiment he created out of a video game.

  • He had me navigate through a series of rooms in different virtual reality houses.

  • Now I would put you in a scanner

  • and I would show you some of these scenes that you've seen and some scenes that you haven't seen,

  • I haven't seen anything yet.

  • -You recognized something? -Yes, I recognized the bar.

  • And right at this moment,

  • we would be able to tell from your brain activity that you've already seen this environment before,

  • And so, this is a potential tool... for police...in the case of break-ins?

  • You might be able to tell if someone's been in an al Qaeda training camp before,

  • Have any... errr... national security agencies been in touch with you?

  • Not... not in the U.S.

  • Anywhere in the world?

  • Errr... yes, in Germany but...

  • So there are people who are considering these kinds of possibilities,

  • And using them. In India last summer,

  • a woman was convicted of murder after an EEG of her brain allegedly revealed

  • that she was familiar with the circumstances surrounding the poisoning of her ex-fiance.

  • Can you through our legal system be forced to take one of these tests?

  • It's a great question. And the legal system hasn't decided on this yet,

  • But we do have a Fifth Amendment. We don't have to incriminate ourselves,

  • Well here's where it gets very interesting,

  • because the Fifth Amendment only prevents the courts from forcing us to testify against ourselves.

  • But you can force me to give DNA or a hair sample or blood even if that would incriminate me.

  • So here's the million dollar question:

  • if you can brain image me and get information directly from my brain, is that testimony?

  • Or is that like DNA, blood, semen, and other things that you could take from me?

  • There will be a Supreme Court case about this,

  • For now, it's impossible to force someone to have his or her brain scanned,

  • because the subject has to lie still and cooperate, but that could change.

  • There are some other technologies that are being developed that may be able to be used covertly and even remotely.

  • So, for example, they're trying to develop now a beam of light that would be projected onto your forehead.

  • It would go a couple of millimeters into your frontal cortex,

  • and then receptors would get the reflection of that light.

  • And there's some studies that suggest that we could use that as a lie detection device,

  • And we wouldn't know if we got a radar of our forehead?

  • No, You wouldn't. If you were sitting there in the airport and being questioned,

  • they could beam that on your forehead without your knowledge.

  • We can't do that yet, but they're working on it.

  • Scary as that is, imagine a world where companies could read our minds too.

  • Light beams may be a bit far off,

  • but fMRI scanning is already being used to try to figure out what we want to buy and how to sell it to us.

  • It's a new field called "neuromarketing."

  • One of its pioneers is neuroscientist Gemma Calvert,

  • co-founder of a London company called Neurosense.

  • Do you have a lot of clients?

  • Yes, such as Unilever, Intel, McDonald's, Proctor & Gamble, MTV or Viacom.

  • And she says it's a growing field.

  • What we've seen is a sort of snowballing effect over the last few years.

  • I think there are about 92 neuromarketing agencies worldwide.

  • But some experts question whether it's ethical to scan the brain for commercial purposes,

  • and say neuromarketers may be promising more than they can really deliver.

  • If you image my brain,

  • and you say, "Ah-ha! Paul craves chocolate chip cookies,"

  • and I say, "No, I don't,"

  • now are you going to believe the brain over me?

  • You can only do that if you have proven that that part of the brain lighting up

  • means in all cases that that person desires chocolate chip cookies.

  • And what a lot of people are doing is they're just imaging the brain,

  • and then they're declaring what that means,

  • and they're never proving that it actually translates into behavior,

  • You know it's very interesting.

  • When you show someone a brain scan, people just believe it.

  • It just reeks of credibility,

  • -Absolutely. Absolutely, -And you telling me,

  • "That's the area where people add and subtract,"

  • I thought, "Well, of course. He knows,"

  • -But I could have told you anything, -I know.

  • So as brain imaging continues to advance and find its way into the courts,

  • the market, and who knows what other aspects of our lives,

  • one message is: be cautious. Another is to get ready.

  • Back at Carnegie Mellon,

  • Just and Mitchell have already uncovered the signatures in our brains for kindness, hypocrisy, and love.

  • It's breathtaking, and kind of eerie.

  • Well, you know, I think the reason people have that reaction

  • is because it reveals the essence of what it means to be a person.

  • All of those kinds of things that define us as human beings are brain patterns,

  • We don't wanna know that... it all boils down to, I don't know, molecules and things like that,

  • But we are, you know, we are biological creatures.

  • You know, our limbs we accept are, you know, muscles and bone.

  • And our brain is a biological thinking machine,

  • Do you think one day, who knows how far into the future,

  • there'll be a machine that'll be able to read very complex thought like "I hate so-and-so"?

  • Or you know, "I love the ballet because..."

  • Definitely. Definitely. And not in 20 years.

  • I think in three, five years.

  • In three years?

  • Well, five,

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CBS 60分 - あなたの心を読む (CBS 60 Minutes - Reading Your Mind)

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