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-Thank you for coming back. You know I'm a giant fan of yours.
Last time you were here, we were talking about this movie you did
with Rob Brydon, who is amazing, called "The Trip."
If you haven't seen it, you got to watch this.
[ English accent ] But where you were both doing Michael Caine
and talking how to do
the correct Michael Caine impression.
-Right. You just sound like you've got a cold.
[ Laughter ]
-But what if Michael Caine was sick?
That's what he would sound like.
-Yeah. You know what?
If they were casting for
a kind of Michael Caine character with a cold,
you'd get the part. [ Laughter ]
-Oh, my God. Thank you so much.
-[ as Michael Caine ] No, you speak through your nose.
You're making it sound too blocked up.
You've got to speak like that.
When he's younger, it's a bit higher, like that.
-He talked like that.
-Talked like that.
-Years ago -- -Alfie.
-But these days, it's a little lower like that
because he smoked so many cigars.
It's a bit more like that. Alright?
And then when you get emotional,
you've got to make your voice crack like that.
[ Laughter ]
[ Cheers and applause ]
-[ Normal voice ] I want to talk about this movie.
-[ Normal voice ] Sure. -"Greed."
It's a fascinating movie because it's funny.
You really made me laugh in it.
But then it gets kind of almost like sad
and, like, really a good --
-That's the way I like to do my shows.
I like to go out and please people and then make them leave
depressed at the end of the tour.
[ Laughter ]
It's a kind of counterintuitive way of working.
-Yeah. No one's ever done that. Yeah.
-Yeah, why not?
-But here's your character. You play a billionaire.
-Yeah. -And this is him right here.
I love your teeth, by the way.
I don't know how -- [ Laughter ]
-Yeah.
-Why did you go with the big -- -Big white teeth.
Because what you find with billionaires is
they have this -- they sport this all-year-round tan
because they're normally on super yachts
off the coast of Monaco, just doing nothing.
And then when they have a bit of money, they normally throw
the price of an S.U.V. at their mouth.
But the only way -- These teeth are actually clever.
No one has white teeth like that.
I mean, no one --
Only in California do you see white teeth like that.
[ Laughter ]
And in Britain, you certainly don't see teeth like that.
[ Laughter ] -No, yeah, yeah.
It's just true for that.
But that must have been shocking
to see yourself with those teeth.
-Yeah, I had to wear shades when I'd brush my teeth.
[ Laughter ]
-Can you describe this film for us?
-Well, it's about a super-rich guy.
And it's, sort of -- it's a -- Michael Winterbottom --
I did a bunch of movies with him.
-Oh, he's great.
-And he makes films where he talks about serious stuff
but doesn't make it boring, not like a big lecture.
No one wants to watch a movie
where they're being taught a lesson.
-Yeah.
-So, it's about the relationship
between the super rich and the super poor.
So one week we're shooting on super yachts in Monaco
and the following week we're in sort of sweatshops in Sri Lanka
where the workers are paid $3.50 a day.
And we try to make that connection.
-A day? -Yeah.
I mean, this is like -- so what we do is say that the reason
the super rich are super rich
is because a lot of people are super poor.
And we just make that connection.
But we do it in a way where --
But the thing is, the film is quite funny.
You know, so it sounds like a serious topic,
and it is a serious topic, but people have fun along the way.
What you do is, you make people laugh
and then you just sort of take the message
and you put it in their top pocket like that and just say,
"Have a read at that later," you know.
-Yeah, exactly.
I hope that it does start a conversation
and we make changes with that because you see the difference,
and it's just shocking, like you were saying.
-Well, we all talk about diversity these days.
We talk about, you know, gender politics
and we talk about the environment.
We try to be grown up about this stuff.
But the one thing it seems that people don't talk about so much
is workers not being paid a decent living wage.
-Yeah.
-I mean, the thing is --
And some of these people don't have running water.
It's not like, you know, if you just up their wages --
It's not like the company is going to go down.
-Yeah, they're making billions of dollars.
-They've got a margin of error that they can, like,
rack it up a few dollars. -Of course.
I want to show a clip. Here's Steve Coogan in "Greed."
Take a look at this.
-Is this an investigation into my tax affairs?
I pay what I have to and no more because I'm not stupid.
If you want to chase people avoiding tax,
why don't you go after the big boys?
I mean, look at Apple. Look at Amazon. Starbucks.
Why are you chasing me?
-Right, it's -- it's not them.
-I suggest you Google it, Mr. Chairman.
There's another company. How much tax did Google pay?
Not very much.
If you don't believe me, talk to Bono.
He's avoided hundreds of millions of tax
while claiming that U2 are based in Holland.
Doesn't stop him going around the world
in your nan's sunglasses
proclaiming about ending poverty or whatever.
This is him in the "Daily Mail."
"You'd be stupid not to try and cut your tax bill," says Bono.
-Whoa.
[ Cheers and applause ]
-I'm always a little -- I'm always a little kind of, uh --
I'm almost like, "Oh, God, I hope Bono doesn't see that."
[ Laughter ] -Yeah, exactly.
-And then I was thinking, "I think he'll survive
some mild criticism from Steve Coogan in an independent movie."
[ Laughter ]
-He definitely will. I think he'll do okay, yeah.
We love when you come by. I wish you came by more often.
I love you, man. Steve Coogan.