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  • - That to me, where the creative process, is,

  • is at its best, when you're free,

  • when you're just doing what you do.

  • I'm Jamie Lee Curtis and this apparently

  • is the timeline of my career.

  • [funky music]

  • - I'm sorry, I was looking for someone.

  • - So I was 19 years old, I was under contract

  • at Universal as a contract player which is a old system

  • of developing talent which is no longer

  • in existence anymore.

  • I, was cast because I was paid already by Universal,

  • Quincy was looking for someone and he opens

  • the drape of the dressing room and I'm there,

  • I believe in a bra.

  • You know, obviously, that was going to bode

  • for future bra work on my part.

  • I think my lines were:

  • You won't find who you're looking for in here mister.

  • And then at the button is the scene is me leaving.

  • You oughta be locked up.

  • And that was my first paid pretending

  • to be somebody else gig.

  • [suspenseful music]

  • Annie look.

  • - Look where?

  • - Behind the bush?

  • - I don't see anything.

  • - The guy who drove so fast, that one you yelled out.

  • - Oh, subtle isn't he.

  • - "Halloween." - Hey creep.

  • - I was young.

  • I had done a TV series that I had been fired from

  • and thought for sure my career,

  • which was just brand new was now gonna be over.

  • And, had I not been fired from "Operation Petticoat",

  • I would not have been availible to audition for "Halloween".

  • "Operation Petticoat" was canceled I think two weeks

  • after its second season and obviously "Halloween"

  • has given me my entire creative life.

  • So, it was the methodology of the shooting,

  • I think however many people are in this room right now

  • shooting this, we had that many people on the entire crew.

  • It was a small group of guerrilla filmmakers,

  • two trucks and a Winnebago that had every department.

  • We just drove around the city and made this movie.

  • There was something incredibly freeing and fun

  • being with really, basically young people and everyone

  • kind of working together to make this movie.

  • There was nothing fancy about it on any level.

  • I've certainly missed that and tried to find that again

  • in my later life.

  • It's been hard to find.

  • I was a young actress and there were three parts

  • for a girl, obviously the smart-aleck,

  • the young virgin and the cheerleader.

  • I thought I would have been like a really good

  • smart-aleck and I was a cheerleader,

  • and yet John,

  • I auditioned I think three or four times for Lori.

  • I remember getting.

  • - Oh Lewis.

  • [woman exclaims]

  • [moaning]

  • [sputters]

  • I've looked everywhere for you baby.

  • Listen, there was choo.

  • I'm hurtin' baby, I just need a shot.

  • - Please.

  • - [Woman] Lewis?

  • - The only pivot I've ever done in my entire life

  • was make a decision after I did the sequel to "Halloween",

  • which was called "Halloween 2" at the time,

  • I said I was not gonna do any more horror films.

  • From that, almost immediately, I was doing a television

  • film that chronicled the very sad, tragic life and death

  • of Dorothy Stratten.

  • She was a Playboy playmate who was murdered

  • by her ex-husband.

  • And then almost immediately after that I made

  • a movie called "Love Letters" and from that I auditioned

  • for "Trading Places", but really, the gift of that

  • is John Landis.

  • I had met John Landis weirdly enough,

  • he had done a documentary about horror film trailers

  • from the 50's called "Coming Soon"

  • and he needed narrator for that documentary short.

  • Wonder who he called.

  • That'd be me.

  • And I shot for three, four days on the back lot

  • at Universal, narrating the history

  • of horror film trailers.

  • I can tell you that when he suggested that I play

  • the part in "Trading Places", I guarantee you

  • and know for sure was met with not only incredulity,

  • but rage. [laughs]

  • And I know that John was like, no, this who I want

  • to have play this part, so I'm grateful and will always

  • be in incredibly grateful to him for having that

  • not only courage, to say no, this is who I want,

  • but also for giving me this incredible opportunity.

  • Was it shrewd, was it good tactics or was it stupid?

  • - Don't call me stupid.

  • - Oh right, to call you stupid would be in insult

  • to stupid people.

  • I've known sheep that could outwit you.

  • I've worn dresses with higher IQs,

  • but you think you're an intellectual, don't you Abe?

  • In a weird way, things link up and people's careers

  • if you look back at them will link.

  • If you, if you think about well this director saw

  • that movie and then they cast you in that.

  • In the same way that John Landis obviously

  • sort of started that, John Cleese had seen "Trading Places"

  • and liked it, I guess.

  • He wrote "A Fish Called Wanda" for me and Kevin Kline

  • and Michael Palin and John.

  • I remember I was home in Los Angeles and I had done,

  • because I had done some weird [beep],

  • I did a Guinness Book of World Records TV show

  • with David Frost that I hosted

  • where I went down the Amazon in a canoe

  • while David Frost in a limousine in a Rolls Royce

  • went through Europe and Bavaria.

  • The man who produced it was a man named Ian Gordon

  • and Ian Gordon was a friend of John Cleese.

  • I got a call from Ian Gordon saying that John Cleese

  • wanted to meet with me.

  • Of course, at the time, my husband's movie,

  • "This is Spinal Tap" had just been released

  • and I thought for sure he really wanted to meet Chris,

  • because Chris is like really, really, really funny,

  • and it was an amazing movie, and I just thought

  • that John Cleese would really wanna be meeting Chris Guest.

  • But apparently he wanted to meet me,

  • and so we met at a restaurant on Sunset Boulevard

  • and he honestly said I've written this movie,

  • we're gonna go make it, it will be wildly successful,

  • you will have great time and we will all make some money.

  • That had not happened to me prior.

  • That, and I though, okay, John Cleese, whatever.

  • Okay, let's go to London and make a movie.

  • And I did.

  • Brought my six month old baby, my husband,

  • and went to London, and everything that John said happened.

  • What would Plato do?

  • Excuse me, do you think I could switch seats with you?

  • We're like old college buddies you know?

  • Thanks.

  • Wow.

  • Wow.

  • I'm really excited to meet you.

  • You're a great writer.

  • - Well, you're pretty good yourself.

  • I've never known anyone

  • to make a small z correctly like that.

  • - I must have shot "A Fish Called Wanda" in London

  • and I remember finishing that movie and coming home

  • and saying okay I have to stay home.

  • This is too hard on my marriage and my daughter,

  • and it's just too much.

  • I would never leave my home, I'm that girl.

  • So, I remember saying to my agent,

  • it's like I really wanna stay home.

  • And the next thing I know, I got sent this script,

  • it was this thin, it was tiny and thin,

  • and it had like 27 pages.

  • A woman named Wendy Kout had written this romantic triangle

  • TV show which is what "Anything But Love" started out as.

  • I read it, and I put it down, I called my agent

  • and said, okay, let's do it.

  • We did the pilot, it did not sell,

  • then I took the job in New York called "Blue Steel"

  • for Katherine Bigelow which was great,

  • but it was shot entirely almost at night,

  • on the streets of New York

  • and I had an 18 month old daughter.

  • And my husband and daughter came to New York obviously,

  • and I had to like rent a house and like was trying

  • to be mom, but at the same time I was shooting nights

  • and John Ritter and Wendy Kout came to me

  • and said ABC had decided to pick up

  • "Anything But Love" with Richard Lewis, my love,

  • and they're gonna change it and make it now

  • just about the two of you, and you're not,

  • it's not a love triangle, blah, blah, blah, blah.

  • We did 60 episodes total, her name was Hannah Miller.

  • They also made her this sort of underdog

  • rather than the boss which was the original pilot idea,

  • and what I loved about it was I had never done a play.

  • Those are shot in front of a live audience.

  • All of a sudden, I became like the ham bone of all time.

  • I couldn't wait for the audience to come.

  • I loved the live experience, so for me,

  • the greatest experience of that was the idea of rehearsing

  • it like a play, and then Friday comes along,

  • and you put on the play.

  • I loved it, and for some reason I've just never found

  • another job like that.

  • It was my favorite job I've ever done.

  • - Shelly, do you think I'm pretty?

  • - Yes, Vada, I think you're pretty.

  • You've got these great big sparkling eyes,

  • and the cutest little nose.

  • An amazing mouth.

  • - Boys at school don't think I am.

  • - They'll come around.

  • - Shelly DeVoto was the character and she's coming

  • for an audition at a funeral home

  • to do the make-up on dead people.

  • The costume designer had found a pink hot pants suit.

  • It was perfect.

  • Howard Zieff who was the director, was like, mmm no.

  • And I was like, mmm yeah.

  • And he was like, mmm no.

  • I just thought it looked really cute,

  • and he was it's too on the nose,

  • it's too much the period and what I learned from him,

  • is the only time you really know it's a period move

  • is when Macaulay Culkin and Anna Chlumsky

  • are riding their bikes and there on the wall

  • in the alley is a political poster and that's it.

  • Howard Zieff was an advertising guy and he understood

  • that if you scream period in a period movie, it ruins it.

  • That this was not a period movie,

  • this was a movie about this young girl

  • and her obsession with death.

  • The fact that it took place in 1972, it was irrelevant.

  • And now when I see period movies and you see how much period

  • they're trying to throw at you, it really is jarring.

  • The second this as you probably all know,

  • I'm a bit of a vulgarian.

  • My favorite line from "A Fish Called Wanda" is-

  • - You're a true vulgarian aren't you?

  • - You are the vulgarian you [beep].

  • - Clearly the swear jar that is implemented

  • on a movie with children is done for a purpose.

  • So the Lost scene of the movie that Macaulay and Anna

  • were in, we had helicopters and cranes

  • and 15 cameras, the water was three feet deep.

  • They had guys in scuba and they had stuntmen,

  • ambulances, I mean, it was insane.

  • And I grabbed the two swear cans and in front of the

  • entire crew I said, Macaulay, Anna, congratulations,

  • you've wrapped the movie, go [beep] yourselves,

  • and I handed them each I can and I think it had $500 in it.

  • Each.

  • [suspenseful jazz music]

  • I can tell you that Jim Cameron saw "A Fish Called Wanda"

  • and the same thing happened.

  • I was home one day in Los Angeles and the phone rang

  • and it was Jim Cameron.

  • It's like, hello, hi Jamie it's James Cameron.

  • Hi Jim!

  • And he said I've written a movie for you

  • and Arnold Schwarzenegger, I'd like you to read it,

  • can I send somebody over with the script

  • but I can't leave the script, you have to read it

  • while they wait.

  • Okay, Jim Cameron.

  • Sure.

  • And I remember I called my agent after I had breakfast

  • with Jim, and I was like, so I think Jim Cameron's

  • gonna call you and apparently he's written this movie

  • for Arnold Schwarzenegger and me.

  • And I think this is gonna happen.

  • Any my agent, who's very sweet said,

  • yeah, no, no no Jamie, that's not gonna happen.

  • That's just not the way these things happen.

  • I was like okay, that's what he said.

  • And ultimately it did happen.

  • You know the great thing about "True Lies"

  • is that it was a character.

  • Helen Tasker was just absolutely maybe the best thing

  • I'll ever get to go do.

  • At the center of this action-centric movie

  • was a domestic love story.

  • Everything happened organically because of this centered

  • love story, nothing was superfluous, nothing was added on

  • to justify some trope of an action movie,

  • everything was organic to the characters,

  • and the fact that she was not good at it,

  • was sort of perfect.

  • There were a couple places in it where Helen's a little

  • clumsy, she trips down the hall, she sort of drops

  • the gun and Arnold and I had rehearsed the Tango

  • months before, and then we needed a refresher course

  • two days before the Tango sequence which is the end scene

  • of the movie.

  • My quad muscles, because I do a lot of lunging were burned

  • out by the end of the rehearsal.

  • The next day I remember getting up and going like oh,

  • I can barely walk.

  • Like they were done.

  • And we had to do this over and over and over and over again.

  • And you will see in the end of the Tango,

  • I can't hold myself up and I actually slip

  • and I was so angry that he kept it in the movie,

  • because my ego wanted the Tango to be really fabulous

  • and to have ended on a high, but of course what was

  • so great about it, was that it was completely Helen.

  • That Helen, no matter what, is still gonna make a mistake,

  • even though she's Doris or whatever her fake name was,

  • you know she's never gonna be that.

  • [gasps]

  • Look at me.

  • - I know, we seem to be

  • inside each other. - I'm old!

  • - I beg your pardon.

  • - Oh, I'm like the Crypt Keeper!

  • - Okay, that's enough.

  • [screaming together]

  • "Freaky Friday" was a train that was moving

  • and the actress that was gonna do the movie

  • pulled out of the movie.

  • I was on a book tour, I read books for children,

  • and I got a call from my agent saying this movie

  • is going at Disney, and they have asked if you

  • will be in it.

  • It was a Thursday, they sent me the script, I read it,

  • on the plane, I met the director on Saturday,

  • I had my hair dyed red on Sunday,

  • and I was shooting on Monday.

  • So the beauty of that movie is that I just jumped

  • into it with absolutely zero prep on any level

  • and it's a weird movie because you alternately

  • are playing a 15 year old and a 45 year old.

  • There are often days where I was both.

  • Because I had no time, I had the complete freedom

  • to just go okay, you know whatever,

  • whatever's gonna happen, is gonna happen.

  • I remember the first day we shot,

  • we shot at Pacific Palisades High School

  • and then the next scene we did was her on TV.

  • I just remember asking the grips if they could put

  • some baby powder so that my feet would slide,

  • and then I remember the director the next day

  • coming to me and saying, you know the editor is wondering

  • if we need to bring you down.

  • He was thinking it's a little too big,

  • and I remember Mark Waters who's a terrific guy,

  • I remember saying to him, look Mark,

  • this is your movie not mine.

  • I only heard about it six days ago.

  • This is what I'm naturally gonna do for you.

  • Like this makes sense to me.

  • I have no problem at all being 50, I am 50.

  • And this is just what I'm gonna deliver for you,

  • and it's your job to sort of tone it,

  • but this is what I'm gonna do.

  • It's the only way I'm gonna do it.

  • If I'm thinking about this for one day,

  • it's over, it'll be horrible.

  • So either find somebody else and just let me go home,

  • or I'm gonna do what I do.

  • He was like, oh no, no no, no, no, no no,

  • and you know what, it turned out to be this amazing,

  • amazing, amazing experience for me creatively.

  • It was the freest I've ever been,

  • between that and "True Lies", I've never been freer.

  • I's a feeling that I've tried to follow up with

  • again and again.

  • It was a lesson, I remember, I remember thinking like,

  • if I get into my head this is just gonna stink.

  • And it didn't stink.

  • Really, really funny.

  • Really funny and I improvised one line, make good choices.

  • Which, what can I say?

  • When you're a teenager and you're walking away from

  • your mother in a car and your mother screams out

  • at you at high school make good choices,

  • I mean come on.

  • And I had a 15 year old at home, so you could only imagine.

  • Make good choices.

  • [gLoss crashes]

  • I had done no more horrors, when I said I was doing

  • no more horrors and did no more horrors

  • for a very, very long time, until one day I had lunch

  • with John Carpenter and Debra Hill,

  • who co-wrote the move with John Carpenter

  • and produced it, became one of my best girlfriends,

  • and I said to them, you know guys,

  • in a couple of years we're gonna be coming up

  • on 20 years, that's crazy 'cause we're all still

  • in show-off business.

  • We're still working.

  • Let's make a 20 year movie.

  • We all decided to do it and then slowly John

  • ended up not doing it, Debra ended up not doing it,

  • but I ended up doing it and that's what became "H20".

  • I was not a producer, I should have been,

  • because really it was my inception

  • to say let's revisit Lori.

  • I did wanna talk about trauma, not to the level

  • that we did in 2018, but I did want to bring up,

  • horror movies are about this crazy horrible time

  • in people's lives and then the movie ends

  • and everybody comes home and pays their heating bill.

  • People forget, or I forget, like what happened

  • to these characters in the movie,

  • like what happened to Lori Strode?

  • After that horrible night in 1978?

  • I am recovering as a alcoholic

  • and a sort of dope fiend myself

  • and I figured maybe Lori had a drug and alcohol problem,

  • and so we sort of explored that in H20,

  • and it was a good movie, it was fine, it was good,

  • I liked it.

  • I was happy we did it, so I was in the next one,

  • but very briefly, then I thought okay, I'm done.

  • And then I've just been doing other work

  • and having a really beautiful life and writing books

  • for children and then out of the blue I got a call

  • from Jake Gyllenhaal who is a dear friend of mine

  • and I've known since I was a little boy,

  • he had just done the wonderful move "Stronger"

  • with David Gordon Green.

  • Jake called me and said David Gordon Green

  • would like to talk to you about "Halloween".

  • And he said well, I've written this thing

  • and da da da and it's 40 years later.

  • He started to pitch it, I said, no no no, don't pitch it.

  • Just send it to me, I'll read it.

  • He sent it, I read it, I called him, I said okay

  • and that was the 2018 movie that you saw.

  • The intention to make it was correct,

  • it was to revisit what really happens to someone

  • when that sort of level of trauma happens

  • in their life, what does that do to a human being?

  • How do you get through that?

  • How you continue to live and really what kind

  • of story could we tell?

  • Unbeknownst to me, certainly had no anticipation,

  • it turned into this incredibly powerful moment

  • in my professional life, in my personal life,

  • I was turning 60, it all sort of happened at the same time.

  • It really struck a chord, the movie was wildly successful,

  • it really reminded me how lovely and how rare

  • that kind of storytelling can be.

  • We made a movie 40 years ago.

  • I was 19 years old,

  • and here I was playing the same character

  • 40 years later in arguably a more successful film

  • than any of the original "Halloween" movies

  • at the age of 59, coming up on 60.

  • And then of course since then, David Gordon Green

  • has agreed to do a trilogy.

  • David and Danny McBride created this trilogy

  • about Lori Strode and Michael Myers.

  • So Judy Greer and Andi Matichak came in to be daughter

  • and granddaughter so it really turned out

  • to be this amazing, unexpected creative experience.

  • Mr. Blanc, I know who you are.

  • I read your profile in the New Yorker,

  • I found it delightful.

  • I just buried my 85 year old father who committed suicide.

  • Why are you here?

  • - I'm here at the behest of a client.

  • - I knew no one.

  • I was at business conference, and my agents called

  • and said there's a script, Daniel Craig is doing it.

  • At that point I didn't even need to read it,

  • I think I said okay.

  • And then of course I read it, it was delicious

  • and the part was fun.

  • When you do movies, nowadays,

  • they have a word called attached.

  • So if you get sent a script, you're reading it

  • and they go, by the way Daniel Craig is attached to do it.

  • That does not mean that he is confirmed to do it.

  • That means that he has read it and said he likes it,

  • but they are kind of fishing.

  • They're using him as a bait, to see who else they can get,

  • and then maybe they'll take that group of fish,

  • and go out to the marketplace and maybe sell it,

  • and maybe not.

  • Here was a movie, where it was Daniel Craig is confirmed.

  • Chris Evans, confirmed.

  • Toni Collette, Michael Shannon.

  • I would have done the movie if it had just said

  • "Knives Out", Michael Shannon.

  • Ryan, I did not know his work, I hadn't seen "Brick",

  • I had seen "Star Wars", loved it, don't, don't.

  • Stop it.

  • You.

  • Uh-huh.

  • Don't be a hater.

  • Just relax.

  • Breathe.

  • I would have done the movie just to literally stand

  • in a room with Michael Shannon.

  • He is so ingenious.

  • Every single actor was confirmed and that was just was like,

  • insane, 'cause that just doesn't happen.

  • And it's a murder mystery and we were all gonna go off

  • to Boston and make this movie for two months.

  • Fantastic.

  • Fast, quick, really intense and really funny.

  • Spill it.

  • [dramatic music]

  • - [Mr. Blanc] I have eliminated no suspects.

  • - Because of the way that David Gordon Green makes movies,

  • and the way that Ryan Johnson makes movies

  • I came home and wrote a screenplay and I'm gonna direct

  • a screenplay next year, because they showed me

  • that it is not only the greatest collaborative medium,

  • but it can be fun.

  • It clicked back on my mojo completely about making movies,

  • it just reawakened the creative spirit in me

  • and now I'm like creatively daily having some very intense

  • ideas of things to do.

- That to me, where the creative process, is,

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