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  • JUDY WOODRUFF: Israelis went to the polls today to choose a prime minister and 120 members

  • of their Parliament.

  • The two leading parties are both claiming victory, and, tonight, the results too close

  • to call.

  • Here's Nick Schifrin.

  • NICK SCHIFRIN: Israeli politics are always fractious, but the results from today's elections

  • are particularly tight.

  • Exit polls show Likud, led by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and a coalition known

  • as Blue and White, led by former army chief Benny Gantz, to be neck-and-neck, and it's

  • not yet clear which will be able to form a coalition government with smaller parties.

  • Netanyahu's election quarters are in Tel Aviv, and that's where our John Yang is tonight.

  • John, what are you hearing?

  • What's the latest results that we're getting in?

  • JOHN YANG: Well, the latest results, Nick, is that there are no results.

  • As you see behind me, some members of the Likud Party are beginning to gather, suggesting

  • that Benjamin Netanyahu will come here to declare victory, just as Benny Gantz did not

  • too far away from here at his party headquarters not too long ago.

  • Who is right?

  • Who will be the next prime minister?

  • Probably won't know for a little while.

  • We won't know who got the most votes tonight until probably well into Wednesday at least.

  • If it's even closer, we won't know for several days.

  • They're going to have the wait for absentee ballots from soldiers, Israeli Defense Forces

  • in far-flung various parts of Israel.

  • They count by hand here.

  • They do not give out frequent updates, as they do in the United States.

  • So we're not likely to see any official numbers until Wednesday.

  • One interesting result we're seeing tonight, though, is, you mentioned the fractiousness

  • of Israeli politics.

  • We're seeing some of that fractiousness go away.

  • There's a new threshold for small parties to have seats in the legislature, which is

  • called the Knesset.

  • And, tonight, some of the parties that have been fixtures on the Israeli political landscape

  • may not be in the Knesset at all.

  • You're seeing two dominant parties moving toward a two-party system.

  • NICK SCHIFRIN: We're seeing two dominant parties move as close as we have seen to a two-party

  • system in a few decades there.

  • As you said, we won't know exactly who people are voting for, but we do know something here.

  • We are seeing something, and that is, whether people are voting for or against him, all

  • the voters are focused on the prime minister, Netanyahu, is that right?

  • JOHN YANG: This really was a referendum on the past 10 years of Benjamin Netanyahu as

  • prime minister.

  • You know, we spent today going to polling places in Jerusalem, in Tel Aviv, talking

  • to voters as they came out about who they voted for.

  • And even those who voted for or supported Benny Gantz framed their votes in terms of

  • Netanyahu.

  • EMILY LIGHTSTONE, Israeli Voter: I think even Bibi supporters can see how much he's messed

  • up the last few years.

  • I never supported him, but I think at this point, we just need a change.

  • I don't know that anybody is really good, but not Bibi.

  • DENNIS ALLON, Israeli Voter: After 13 years of stagnation, 13 years of where our prices

  • of apartments in this area have tripled, there needs to be an absolute change in the government.

  • Enough is enough, and enough of the corruption, and enough of the scandals that are going

  • on.

  • We need a new and clean fresh slate.

  • DANIEL ZILBERBERG, Israeli Voter: I voted for Bibi four years ago, but I think that

  • we have had enough of him.

  • JOHN YANG: Whether positive or negative, Benjamin Netanyahu continues to dominate the political

  • debate.

  • Whether or not he will be prime minister remains to be seen, though.

  • NICK SCHIFRIN: John, this is a complicated process over the next few days and perhaps

  • even weeks.

  • Walk us through what happens next.

  • JOHN YANG: This is a complicated and maybe some say convoluted process.

  • It all starts on April 17.

  • That is the day that the official results are announced.

  • Then begins a series of seven days of party leaders, the leaders of parties who won seats

  • in the Parliament tonight, going to the Israeli president.

  • They tell the Israeli president, Reuven Rivlin, who they would recommend, who they would want

  • to see as prime minister.

  • As these conversations go on, Rivlin is doing mental math.

  • He's seeing who could come closest -- who could come closer to the 61-vote majority

  • someone needs to have a ruling -- have a government in the legislature.

  • Then, April 24, seven days after those official result, he officially asks one man or the

  • other to form a government.

  • Now, it could be that he asks both of them to form a coalition government, and it doesn't

  • have to be the person who has the most votes tonight.

  • It could be the person -- as long as it's the person that he thinks could get a majority

  • in the legislature.

  • NICK SCHIFRIN: Absolutely.

  • We will be watching in the next days and weeks.

  • And we know you will be there.

  • John Yang reporting live from Likud headquarters tonight, thank you very much.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Israelis went to the polls today to choose a prime minister and 120 members

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