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  • CHARLES: STANDOFF OVER THE

  • SENATE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL

  • EXTENDING INTO THE NEW YEAR.

  • WE'RE STILL WAITING TO SEE WHEN

  • SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI WILL SEND

  • TWO ARTICLES TO THE UPPER

  • CHAMBER.

  • SOME REPUBLICANS ARGUE THE

  • SPEAKER IS IN CONTEMPT

  • CONFERENCE.

  • THAT IMPEACHMENT ISN'T VALID

  • UNTIL SHE TRANSFERS THE CHARGES.

  • CONGRESSMAN ANDY BIGGS ON HOUSE

  • JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND CO-CHAIR

  • OF THE HOUSE FREEDOM CAUCUS.

  • HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU, SIR.

  • CONGRESSMAN BIGGS, WHERE DO

  • THINGS STAND AT VERY MOMENT?

  • >> WHERE WE ARE WHERE WE WERE A

  • WEEK 1/2 AGO.

  • NANCY PELOSI IS BASICALLY

  • HOLDING ON TO THE ARTICLES.

  • SHE IS NOT TRANSMITTING, SHE IS

  • SOFTLY BACKING AWAY FROM HER

  • ORIGINAL REASON WHY, SHE WANTED

  • LEVERAGE, WANTED TO CONTROL THE

  • U.S. SENATE TRIAL WHICH SHE

  • CANNOT DO.

  • SO, QUESTION IS, AND YOU HAVE

  • ASKED IT, FRAMED IT RIGHT, IS

  • SHE GOING TO TRANSMIT?

  • IF SO, WHEN WILL SHE TRANSMIT?

  • WHAT IMPACT WILL THAT HAVE?

  • UNLIKE ANY OTHER TIME IN THE

  • HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY.

  • WHERE YOU HAVE THE SPEAKER OF

  • THE HOUSE TRYING TO CONTROL THE

  • SENATE DOING ITS CONSTITUTIONAL

  • DUTY.

  • CHARLES: BEYOND THE HUBRIS OF

  • SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE TRYING TO

  • DICTATE HOW THINGS GO IN THE

  • SENATE, IT FEELS LIKE THE

  • DEMOCRATS, PARTICULARLY

  • NANCY PELOSI, GRAPPLING AS THIS

  • THING LINGERS ON.

  • HASN'T SERVED THEM WELL WITH

  • RESPECT TO PUBLIC OPINION POLLS,

  • FUND-RAISING THINGS LIKE THAT.

  • I FEEL THEY ENTER INTO AN AREA

  • AND THEY'RE NOT SURE HOW TO GET

  • THEMSELVES OUT OF IT?

  • >> I AGREE WITH YOU.

  • THEY KEPT, AS GOING THROUGH

  • THIS.

  • NANCY PELOSI SAID THEY WERE

  • TRYING TO IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT

  • FOR 2 1/2 YEARS.

  • EVERY TIME THEY THOUGHT

  • SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN, WHETHER

  • THE MUELLER REPORT, THE MUELLER

  • DEBACLE ON TV, WHETHER IT WAS

  • THE ACTUAL OPEN HEARINGS AFTER

  • THEY HAD CLOSED-DOOR HEARINGS,

  • YOU GET TO THIS POINT AND

  • NANCY PELOSI SAYS, OKAY, NEXT

  • STEP IS TO TRY TO CONTROL IT IN

  • THE SENATE.

  • IT HAS NOT PLAYED OUT EVER LIKE

  • THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD.

  • IN FACT IT CONTINUES TO WORSEN

  • FOR THEM, AND IMPROVE FOR

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP AND PUBLIC

  • SENTIMENT TOWARDS PRESIDENT

  • TRUMP.

  • I THINK WE ALL LOOK AT IT, SAY,

  • THIS IS AN ABERRATION.

  • THIS IS ABNORMAL.

  • THIS IS NOT THE WAY THIS SHOULD

  • BE DONE.

  • AND I THINK DECIDING YOU WILL

  • HOLD THE ARTICLES AND NOT

  • TRANSMIT IS JUST ONE MORE

  • EXAMPLE OF A MISSTEP POLITICALLY

  • BUT ALSO A TROUNCING OF

  • CONSTITUTION WE INHERENTLY AS

  • AMERICANS UNDERSTAND, THAT IS

  • NOT THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO

  • BE.

  • CHARLES: MEANTIME FORMER

  • VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN GOT

  • HIMSELF INTO A REAL PICKLE

  • SUGGESTING THAT HE WOULD NOT

  • EVEN TESTIFY IF HE WAS

  • SUBPOENAED.

  • I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU, THE

  • SOUND OF THAT, ALONG WITH THE

  • AUDIENCE.

  • TAKE A LISTEN.

  • >> YOU STAND BY YOUR EARLIER

  • STATEMENTS THAT YOU WOULDN'T

  • COMPLY IF YOU WERE SUBPOENAED TO

  • TESTIFY IN AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL

  • BEFORE THE SENATE?

  • >> CORRECT.

  • THE REASON I WOULDN'T IS BECAUSE

  • IT IS ALL DESIGNED TO DEAL WITH

  • TRUMP DOING WHAT HE HAS DONE HIS

  • WHOLE LIFE, TRYING TO TAKE THE

  • FOCUS OFF HIM.

  • CHARLES: BIDEN DID TWEET

  • YESTERDAY, I WANT TO CLARIFY

  • SOMETHING I SAID YESTERDAY.

  • IN MY 40 YEARS OF PUBLIC LIFE I

  • ALWAYS COMPLIED WITH A LAWFUL

  • ORDER.

  • IN MY EIGHT YEARS AS VP MY

  • OFFICE UNLIKE DONALD TRUMP

  • COOPERATED WITH LEGITIMATE

  • CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT

  • REQUESTS.

  • HE SPOKE WITH CANDOR TO THE

  • "DES MOINES REGISTER" BUT, YOU

  • KNOW, TRYING TO CLEAN THIS THING

  • UP, IT IS INTERESTING, THAT THE

  • SENATE IS BEING ACCUSED OF

  • THINGS THAT BEFORE THE

  • IMPEACHMENT TRIAL EVEN HAPPENS.

  • HERE JOE BIDEN IS SAYING HEY, I

  • WILL NOT EVEN COOPERATE?

  • >> YEAH.

  • I MEAN, IT IS INTERESTING HE HAD

  • TO CLEAN IT UP, WE GOTTEN USED

  • TO JOE BIDEN HAVING TO CLEAN UP

  • STUFF BUT REALITY I THINK WHEN

  • HE WAS SPEAKING FIRST TIME IS

  • EXACTLY WHERE HE STANDS.

  • THEY BELIEVE THAT, DEMOCRATS

  • BELIEVE AND THE LEFT BELIEVES

  • THAT WHATEVER THE SENATE DOES IS

  • NOT GOING TO BE LEGITIMATE.

  • THAT IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.

  • SO JOE BIDEN IS SAYING I'M NOT

  • GOING TO GO BUT REALITY IS, THE

  • QUESTION OVER EXECUTIVE

  • PRIVILEGE IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT

  • MATTER THAN WHAT HE IS SAYING.

  • HE IS TRYING TO CONFLATE ACTUAL

  • SUBPOENA GIVEN TO HIM BY THE

  • SENATE WHICH THE SENATE WAS

  • INVOKING, EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE,

  • THE HOUSE HAD THE RIGHT TO GO TO

  • COURT TO EXAMINE THE PROCESS.

  • THEY CHOSE NOT TO BECAUSE THEY

  • WANTED IN A HURRY.

  • WE'RE IN TOO BIG AFTER HURRY TO

  • DO THIS.

  • THEY SEE THEY'RE NOT THAT BIG

  • AFTER HURRY AFTER ALL.

  • JOE BIDEN I THINK WOULD SHOW UP

  • BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT ANNAL

  • THAN EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE.

  • HE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CONTEMPT.

  • CHARLES: NANCY PELOSI SEEMS TO

  • BE IN A QUAGMIRE, MANY ARE

  • QUESTIONING WHAT REPUBLICANS ARE

  • GOING TO DO.

  • EARLIER THIS WEEK KIM STRASSEL

  • OF "WALL STREET JOURNAL" WROTE

  • AN ARTICLE, REPUBLICANS

  • DISMISSING HER TACTICS WHY ARE

  • REPUBLICANS ASSUMING SHE WANTS A

  • TRIAL?

  • IT WOULD, HOW WOULD IT BENEFIT

  • FOR DEMOCRATS TO CONDUCT A

  • EFFICIENT SOLEMN PROCEEDINGS.

  • THE HOUSE WAS FARCE SHIFTING

  • DEFINITIONS OF HIGH CRIMES.

  • WHAT IS, WHAT ARE THE

  • REPUBLICANS GOING TO DO?

  • ARE YOU JUST GOING TO SIT BACK

  • LET NANCY PELOSI DICTATE HOW

  • THIS THING GOES?

  • OR IS THERE ANYTHING IN YOUR

  • GAMEPLAN TO TAKE MORE ACTIONS?

  • >> ON THE SENATE SIDE I DON'T

  • THINK NANCY PELOSI HAS ANY

  • LEVERAGE WHATSOEVER AND I THINK

  • THAT IS PART OF THE PLAY OUT

  • THAT KIM IS TALKING ABOUT THERE,

  • BECAUSE WHAT YOU SEE IS,

  • MITCH McCONNELL IS STEPPED IN

  • AND SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO IT

  • THE WAY THE SENATE IS GOING TO

  • DO IT.

  • WE'LL TRY TO DO IT THE WAY THE

  • CLINTON IMPEACHMENT TRIAL WENT,

  • AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO

  • DO.

  • I THINK McCONNELL HAS ALL THE

  • CARDS IN THE SENATE RIGHT NOW.

  • WHAT NANCY PELOSI IS GOING TO DO

  • IS CONTINUE TO OBSTRUCT AND RUN

  • OVER THE CONSTITUTION.

  • THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO.

  • BUT, REMEMBER, WE'RE IN THE

  • MINORITY.

  • UNTIL THE REPUBLICANS GET THE

  • HOUSE BACK ALL WE CAN DO IS

  • INTRODUCE RESOLUTIONS OF

  • CONDEMNATIONS, THOSE TYPE OF

  • THINGS.

  • CHARLES: LET ME ASK THIS.

  • SOME ARE SAYING THIS IS THE

  • BATTLE FOR PUBLIC OPINION.

  • MITCH McCONNELL SAYING EARLIER

  • IN THE MONTH THAT THERE IS NO

  • CHANCE THE PRESIDENT WILL BE

  • REMOVED.

  • SENATOR MURKOWSKI SUGGESTING A

  • COUPLE DAYS AGO SHE IS

  • UNCOMFORTABLE WITH SOME OF THE

  • THINGS McCONNELL IS SAYING

  • WITH RESPECT TO REPUBLICANS IN

  • THE SENATE COORDINATING WITH THE

  • WHITE HOUSE.

  • DO YOU FEEL LIKE MAYBE YOU ARE

  • LOSING OR COULD POTENTIALLY LOSE

  • THE PUBLIC RELATIONS ASPECT OF

  • THIS, EVEN THOUGH MANY CONSIDER

  • THE WHOLE THING A FARCE AT THIS

  • POINT?

  • >> THE WAY PUBLIC OPINION GOES

  • SO FAR, IF YOU HOLD SOMETHING

  • THAT IS NOT FAIR, EGG GREEN YOU

  • TELL LIES TO THE PUBLIC YOU WILL

  • LOSE PUBLIC OPINION.

  • AS LONG AS MITCH McCONNELL

  • WILLING TO HAVE CLINTONESQUE

  • TYPE OF PROCEDURE, PROBLEM FOR

  • DEMOCRATS, IF HE HOLDS A TRUE,

  • SOLEMN, REAL HEARING, LETTING

  • DEMOCRATS FROM THE HOUSE COME

  • OVER TO TRY TO MAKE THEIR CASE,

  • IT WILL ACTUALLY SHOW THE

  • DICHOTOMY BETWEEN THIS RUSH TO

  • JUDGMENT, THIS HORRIBLE EFFORT

  • IN THE HOUSE.

  • CHARLES: CONGRESSMAN ANDY BIGGS,

  • THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN.

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ビッグスペロシは上院で何が起こるかをコントロールすることはできません。 (Biggs: Pelosi doesn't have any control over what happens in the Senate)

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