>> Julie: ALL RIGHT, RICH

EDSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH

PAIRED FOR MORE ON THIS, LET'S

BRING IN JOHN CHRISTY,

WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FROM

"USA TODAY."

THANK YOU FOR TALKING TO US.

STEVE COHEN SAYS THAT THE

DEMOCRATS NEED WITNESSES AND

APPARENTLY THERE IS NEW EVIDENCE

THAT NEEDS TO COME TO LIGHT.

THAT'S WHY THEY WANT TO

POTENTIALLY TALK ABOUT A

POTENTIAL THIRD ARTICLE OF

IMPEACHMENT.

WHAT IS THIS NEW EVIDENCE?

WHY NOW?

WHY SO LATE?

>> WELL, I THINK DEMOCRATS ARE

TALKING ABOUT SOME NEW EMAILS

THAT HAVE COME OUT, AND

SENATOR SCHUMER IN PARTICULAR

HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS

EMAIL FROM OMB THAT HE EMAILED

TO THE PENTAGON.

I THINK THAT THAT IS PART OF IT.

THE LONGER THIS GOES ON,

OBVIOUSLY, THE LONGER THAT HOUSE

DEMOCRATS CAN COLLECT EVIDENCE.

THERE HAS BEEN TALK OF THEM MAY

BE ADDING TO AN ARTICLE, BUT I

THINK WHAT THIS REALLY IS ABOUT

A SORT OF NEGOTIATING OBVIOUSLY

THE RULES OF THIS THING.

YOU KNOW, IT IS KIND OF A

CLASSIC IMPASSE WITH

NANCY PELOSI SAYING THAT SHE IS

NOT GOING TO SEND THESE ARTICLES

OVER UNTIL SHE SEES HOW THE

TRIAL WILL BE RUN, AND LEADER

McCONNELL SAYING THAT HE WILL

NOT DO THE RULES UNTIL HE SEES

THE ARTICLES.

IT IS NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR HOW

THEY GET OUT OF THIS, BUT I DO

THINK THAT IT IS WORTH

REMEMBERING THAT ALTHOUGH WE ARE

ALL TALKING ABOUT THIS NOW FOR

OBVIOUS REASONS, THESE FOLKS ARE

OUT OF TOWN, THERE WAS NOT GOING

TO BE A LOT OF WORK ON THE TRIAL

THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK ANYWAY.

AND PERHAPS WHEN THEY ALL GOT

BACK FROM THE BREAK IN A WEEK

AND A HALF OR SO, THERE IS A

CHANCE FOR THEM TO COME TOGETHER

AND FIND SOME AGREEMENT.

BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS HARD TO SEE

HOW THAT GETS DONE.

>> Julie: SO PELOSI AND

McCONNELL, DO THEY REACH A

DEAL?

>> IT WAS INTERESTING, I WAS

LOOKING AT WHAT HAPPENED IN '99

AND THE IMPEACHMENT OF CLINTON

IN '99 AND THE TRIAL.

AND THEY DID ULTIMATELY COME TO

A DEAL.

MAJORITY LEADER LOT AND DASCHLE

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERE

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERI

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERS

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERA

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERM

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERD

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERL

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERE

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERG

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERO

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERN

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERD

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERB

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERT

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERE

DID WRITE UP AN AGREEMENT, THERN

NO WITNESSES AND WITNESSES.

THERE IS DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU

CAN DO THAT, SO THERE IS A

POTENTIAL FOR AGREEMENT, THE BIG

DIFFERENCE, THEY ARE TWO BIG

DIFFERENCES.

ONE IS THAT IN '98 THE

REPUBLICANS HAD A MIDTERM.

AND THEY LOST SEATS AND A LOT OF

PEOPLE SAW THAT AS A REPUDIATION

OF THE IMPEACHMENT EFFORT.

DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT HAD THAT

WARNING SHOT FIRED ACROSS THEIR

BALL.

I DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAVE TO

BE AS CAUTIOUS OR FEEL LIKE THEY

HAVE TO BE AS CAUTIOUS AS

REPUBLICANS STAYED IN '99.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT

PRESIDENT TRUMP, I THINK, HAS A

MUCH FIRMER GRIP ON THE PARTY

THAN BILL CLINTON DID IN '98 IN

'99.

SO THOSE TWO THINGS COMBINED

MEANS THAT THESE TWO SIDES ARE

REALLY MORE ENTRENCHED THAN THEY

WERE BACK THEN.

>> Julie:

"THE WALL STREET JOURNAL"

EDITORIAL BOARD MEMBER JASON

RILEY TALKS ABOUT HOW THE

BACKLASH AGAINST G.O.P.

SENATOR LISA MURKOWSKI, SHE IS

FACING -- A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE

SAYING THAT SHE IS USING

DEMOCRATIC TALKING POINTS AND

SAYING THAT SHE SAID SHE IS

DISTURBED THAT THE SENATOR

LEADER MITCH McCONNELL IS

COORDINATING WITH THE

WHITE HOUSE.

LET'S JUST LISTEN TO THIS AND

THEN THE EMPLOYEE WILL HAVE YOU

REACT.

>> I DO WISH THAT SHE WOULD STOP

USING DEMOCRATIC TALKING POINTS

TO MAKE THE POINT THAT SHE IS

MAKING.

THE HOUSE JOB IS DONE, AND THE

IDEA THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE ANY

SAY IN HOW THE SENATE CONDUCTS

THIS TRIAL JUST IS NOT SUPPORTED

BY WHAT IS WRITTEN IN BLACK AND

WHITE IN THE CONSTITUTION.

>> Julie: IS MURKOWSKI IN

TROUBLE, YOU THINK?

COME 2020?

IS SHE RISKING HER SEAT AFTER

THE CONTROVERSIAL MARK?

>> CERTAINLY OF THE REMARK WAS

NOTABLE AND NEWSWORTHY.

IT WAS AMBIGUOUS.

SHE IS NOT REALLY SAYING WHERE

SHE GIVES YET.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING

THAT SHE IS THE ONLY ONE OF

THESE SORT OF SENATE REPUBLICANS

THAT WERE WATCHING TO COME OUT

SO FAR ALONG THESE LINES.

IF HOUSE SPEAKER PELOSI'S

STRATEGY IS TO SEE IF THERE CAN

BE SOME DIVISION AND SENATE

REPUBLICANS, WE HAVE ONE

SENATOR MURKOWSKI SAYING AND

NOBODY ELSE RIGHT NOW, BUT I

THINK THAT IT DOES SORT OF SPEAK

TO THIS A FINE LINE THAT

McCONNELL HAS TO WALK HERE.

HE OBVIOUSLY IS WORKING WITH THE

WHITE HOUSE AND NEEDS TO MAKE

THE PRESIDENT ADHERE TO THE

THINGS THAT THE PRESIDENT IN THE

WHITE HOUSE ARE LOOKING FOR, BUT

HE ALSO HAS SEVERAL MEMBERS OF

HIS CAUCUS WHO MAY HAVE

CONCERNS.