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Is the Marvel television universe dead?
Everything is connected, that used to be what fans
were told about how the Marvel Cinematic Universe
and Marvel's television series tied into each other.
We were promised a rich, shared world
where what happened on the ground level with TV heroes
would tie into and be reflected by what happened
on movie screens with Avengers-level threats.
And for a brief time, things seemed hunky-dory with that.
Marvel TV's flagship series, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.,
definitely reacted to things that happened
in the MCU, most notably the shocking turn of events
in Captain America: The Winter Soldier,
where it was revealed that S.H.I.E.L.D.
had been infiltrated by HYRDA and ended
with the spy organization collapsing.
However, the love was never really reciprocated
by the Marvel films.
Threat after threat came to New York City
with nary a Defender to be spotted on the big screen.
For every mention of the Incident in Daredevil,
AKA the Chitari invasion of the Big Apple,
there was only silence from the Avengers
in regard to their Hells' Kitchen counterparts.
And let's not even get into Inhumans.
The project that started as an MCU film,
but ended up being the short-lived TV show
that was practically canceled five minutes
into the first episode.
Sorry, Black Bolt.
However, while the MCU and Marvel Television
never outright contradicted each other,
the two sides have also never played together
like fans had hoped they would,
and now rumors are swirling that the future
of Marvel Television might be at risk
of getting snapped away by Thanos himself.
With insiders reporting that Marvel Studios
might be taking over all future Marvel offerings for TV.
But is Marvel Television really dead?
Let's take a look at both sides of the equation.
First, let's define what exactly
constitutes Marvel Television.
Marvel TV, run by Jeph Loeb, is a separate entity
from Marvel Studios, where Marvel TV still reports
to Marvel comics head, Ike Perlmutter,
Kevin Feige at Marvel Studios reports directly
to Disney itself.
Marvel TV is made up of shows
like ABC's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Agent Carter,
Fox's and FX's shows like The Gifted and Legion,
Hulu's Runaways, Freeform's Cloak and Dagger,
and the various Netflix Marvel series.
And the MCU is, well, it's the MCU.
We should all know the films by now.
The first bit of evidence is that there isn't much left
on the Marvel TV slate of projects.
Their big hits like Legion and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
have either ended or are preparing to end.
Netflix has canceled all of their Marvel shows,
and with the costumes and props
having been sold off, it's safe to assume those versions
of the characters are donezo.
And while Marvel Television is still developing
a Helstrom series for Hulu, it was recently announced
that the Ghost Rider series that was also being developed
was canceled, the rumor being
is that it was so the character
can be used in the MCU instead.
What Marvel Television still has though are Runaways
and Cloak and Dagger, both of which seem
to be going strong, perhaps because they cater
to their younger audiences in a fun, authentic way.
But the most damning evidence that Marvel TV
is in trouble isn't just the fact that Kevin Feige
and Marvel Studios are making shows
based on their popular film characters,
but that they are also tackling shows with characters
that haven't made a feature film debut,
like Ms. Marvel and Moon Knight.
With Marvel Studios stepping
into the streaming television game,
this means that they are now a direct competitor
with Marvel TV.
And that's just not sustainable.
It wouldn't be shocking for one of them
to eventually fade away into nothingness,
and it's easy to guess which of the two that could be.
In regards to all of this, one TV literary agent
told Variety, "Feige's shows are so far
"beyond anything Marvel TV has been able to do.
"He has access to all of these MCU characters
"that the other Marvel live-action stuff just doesn't,
"not to mention way bigger budgets."
However, Variety also reported, "A Marvel Television insider
"told Variety that the company
"has several live-action projects
"at various stages of development.
"A spokesperson for Marvel Television
"declined to comment.
"Marvel Studios did not respond
"to a request for a comment."
Looking at all the all the evidence,
it does seem that Kevin Feige and Marvel Studios
will be taking the reigns on most Marvel live-action shows
from now on, but this doesn't mean the end
for Marvel Television as an entity.
Marvel TV is still working on several animated projects
for Hulu, based on Marvel characters,
like MODOK and Howard the Duck.
This seems to be a safe direction for them to go in
by making their own animated universe
that is separate from the MCU
using characters that might not work in live-action,
and of course, this only pertains to Disney-owned
and licensed Marvel characters.
We know that Sony's developing several television shows
with Phil Lord and Chris Miller
for the Marvel characters they own the rights to.
Spider-Man and his amazing friends and enemies.
So there still will be other Marvel TV shows,
but from other companies instead of from multiples companies
under the Disney umbrella.
But what do you folks think?
Is Marvel Television fading away?
What Marvel TV show would you want to see
under the Marvel Studios umbrella,
and are you looking forward
to Sony's upcoming Marvel TV shows?
Let's discuss.
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