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  • MARIA: WELCOME BACK.

  • HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI

  • ANNOUNCING THE START OF AN

  • IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY INTO WHETHER

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP ABUSED HIS POWER

  • WHEN HE ASKED UKRAINE'S

  • PRESIDENT TO LOOK INTO A

  • POLITICAL RIVAL.

  • JOINING US NOW IS GEORGIA

  • CONGRESSMAN DOUG COLLINS,

  • RANKING MEMBER OF THE JUDICIARY

  • COMMITTEE IN THE HOUSE.

  • SIR, THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING

  • US.

  • >> HEY, MARIA.

  • IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO BE WITH YOU

  • WITH.

  • MARIA: YOU JUST HEARD MY

  • CONVERSATION WITH RUDY GIULIANI,

  • I HOPE.

  • GIVE US YOUR REACTION TO THIS

  • INQUIRY INTO IMPEACHMENT.

  • >> WELL, FIRST OFF, RUDY IS A

  • PASSIONATE DEFENDER OF THIS

  • PRESIDENT.

  • HE'S WATCHED THIS PRESIDENT BE

  • ATTACKED FOR OVER THREE YEARS,

  • AND HE IS PRESENTING THAT.

  • THAT'S HIS JOB.

  • BUT LET ME GO BACK TO WHAT'S

  • GOING ON IN THE HOUSE AND WHERE

  • THIS IS AT RIGHT NOW.

  • THIS WEEK WE SAW A DARK DAY IN

  • THE HOUSE.

  • SPEAKER PELOSI ABUSED HER OATH

  • OF OFFICE, IF YOU WOULD, BY

  • SAYING AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY

  • HAD STARTED AND THEY WERE

  • SENDING IT TO THE INTELLIGENCE

  • COMMITTEE WHERE YOU HAVE A

  • GENTLEMAN WHO HAS A HABIT OF

  • LYING ABOUT THE FACTS,

  • MR. SCHIFF.

  • THEY'VE DECIDED TO WALK DOWN A

  • PATH IN WHICH THEY ARE CONTRARY

  • TO AMERICAN VALUES.

  • THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THIS

  • PRESIDENT TO HAVE DUE PROCESS,

  • THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE FAIR,

  • THEY'RE GOING TO RAMROD THIS

  • THING THROUGH BECAUSE -- AND I

  • HEARD A MEMBER OF HOUSE

  • LEADERSHIP SAY THIS MORNING ON

  • ANOTHER NETWORK THAT HE WANTED

  • TO HAVE AN INQUIRY, BUT HE

  • WASN'T READY TO VOTE FOR

  • IMPEEPMENT.

  • IF THEY WERE TRULY SERIOUS, THEY

  • WOULD BRING IT TO FLOOR, HAVE A

  • VOTE ARE, AND THEN THE AMERICAN

  • PEOPLE WOULD KNOW THIS WAS NOT

  • SIMPLY A DEMOCRAT RAMROD OF THIS

  • PRESIDENT.

  • MARIA: SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN

  • FOR THIS IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY?

  • WHERE DOES THIS GO?

  • IS THE PRESIDENT IN JEOPARDY OF

  • BEING REMOVED FROM OFFICE?

  • >> NO, HE'S NOT IN JEOPARDY OF

  • BEING REMOVED FROM OFFICE.

  • HE'S IN JEOPARDY OF HAVING TO

  • CONTINUE THE ONSLAUGHT OF LIES

  • AND ATTACKS AND HALF-TRUTHS FROM

  • A ONE-SIDED INVESTIGATION IN THE

  • HOUSE.

  • THIS IS SOMETHING FROM MY

  • POSITION AS RANKING MEMBER OF

  • THE JEWISH -- JUDICIARY

  • COMMITTEE.

  • ANYTIME THEY'VE BEEN ALLOWED,

  • WE'VE ALLOWED TO HAVE

  • INVESTIGATIONS WHETHER IT BE THE

  • MUELLER REPORT OR THESE

  • RIDICULOUS HEARINGS THAT

  • CHAIRMAN NADLER'S HAD, IT'S

  • ALWAYS SHOWN THAT THE PRESIDENT

  • HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG.

  • THE COLLUSION WAS A FALSE

  • NARRATIVE, THE CONSPIRACIES, ALL

  • THESE THINGS WERE FALSE WHEN YOU

  • ACTUALLY INVESTIGATE.

  • SO NOW THEY DECIDED LET'S THROW

  • THAT OUT THE WINDOW BECAUSE

  • THAT'S NOT WORKING.

  • FAIRNESS IS NOT WORKING.

  • BEING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE

  • AMERICAN PEOPLE IS NOT RIGHT, SO

  • WE'RE JUST GOING TO RAMROD IT

  • THROUGH.

  • THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT

  • NOW.

  • MARIA: LOOK, I WANT TO ASK YOU

  • ABOUT THE RULES AROUND A

  • WHISTLEBLOWER.

  • WE KNOW THAT IN THE ACTUAL

  • TRANSCRIPT WE SEE THAT -- AND

  • THE ACTUAL COMPLAINT, RATHER,

  • THE WHISTLEBLOWER SAYS I DO NOT

  • HAVE DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF THIS.

  • THAT IS IN THE COMPLAINT.

  • BUT I WAS TOLD THIS, AND I TRUST

  • THE PEOPLE WHO TOLD ME.

  • WHAT ARE THE RULES AROUND THE

  • WHISTLEBLOWER IN TERMS OF WHAT

  • THAT PERSON CAN CHARGE?

  • >> WELL, THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY

  • BEEN INTERESTING BECAUSE WE'VE

  • BEEN FINDING OUT THAT THE

  • WHISTLEBLOWER, ESPECIALLY IN THE

  • INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, RULES

  • SEEM TO HAVE BEEN CHANGED FROM

  • DEMANDING A FIRSTHAND ACCOUNT OR

  • ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE, FIRSTHAND

  • KNOWLEDGE OF THE ABUSE OR THE

  • MISUSE OF ISSUES IN THE

  • INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, TO NOW

  • WHERE THEY CAN HAVE SECONDHAND

  • INFORMATION.

  • IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHISTLEBLOWER

  • REPORT EVEN BESIDES THE

  • TRANSCRIPT AND EVERYTHING ELSE,

  • COMPARING THE TWO IS REALLY

  • INTERESTING BECAUSE IT SEEM TO

  • BE A VERY WELL WRITTEN DOCUMENT,

  • MULTISOURCED.

  • IF THIS WERE A PIECE IN "THE NEW

  • YORK TIMES"ES OR WASHINGTON

  • POST, THAT MIGHT BE WHAT YOU

  • WOULD EXPECT.

  • BUT YOU DON'T EXPECT IT IN A

  • LEGAL DOCUMENT ACCUSING A

  • PRESIDENT OF DOING SOMETHING IN

  • AN ILLEGAL FASHION AND DOING SO

  • FROM SECONDHAND INFORMATION.

  • NOW, AS WE GO FORWARD HERE, IS

  • THAT GOING TO BE THE FACT THAT'S

  • BEEN CHANGED IN THE INTELLIGENCE

  • COMMUNITY TO WHERE BASICALLY

  • ANYBODY CAN TAKE ANY REPORT THEY

  • WANT TO AND DECIDE TO FILE A

  • COMPLAINT?

  • THIS IS MORE SERIOUS THAN THIS.

  • THIS PRESIDENT AND OUR COUNTRY

  • DESERVES BETTER THAN WHAT WE'RE

  • SEEING --

  • MARIA: THEY MAY DESERVE BETTER

  • BUT, CONGRESSMAN, THAT'S NOT

  • WHAT'S HAPPENING.

  • THE DEMOCRATS ARE IN CHARGE, AND

  • THEY ARE GOING TO BE

  • INVESTIGATING THIS, AND THEY

  • WANT THE PRESIDENT OUT OF

  • OFFICE.

  • WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT

  • ABOUT IT AS THE RANKING MEMBER

  • OF JUDICIARY?

  • >> WELL, IT'S BEEN A REALLY

  • INTERESTING WEEK BECAUSE IT

  • SEEMS LIKE THE JUDICIARY

  • COMMITTEE IS, AGAIN, IN THIS

  • RAMROD OF SPEAKER PELOSI AND,

  • YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, DEGRADATION

  • OF THE HOUSE RULES.

  • THEY'RE SAYING NOW, WELL, WE'RE

  • GOING TO DO AN INQUIRY, WE'RE

  • GOING TO KEEP FOLLOWING THE

  • RULES, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO

  • SAY THIS, IN JUST THE NEXT FEW

  • WEEKS I THINK WE'RE DOING TO SEE

  • THE INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT

  • COME OUT, WE'RE GOING TO

  • CONCENTRATE ON 40 HOW THIS

  • ACTUALLY GOT STARTED, HOPEFULLY

  • THE SENATE WILL BE, AND I KNOW