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  • What if politics weren't to blame for the institutional corruption,

  • the endless wars and the burgeoning homelessness?

  • What if rather these are just symptoms born out of an outdated social structure?

  • That's the revolutionary idea behind the explosive Zeitgeist documentary trilogy.

  • Since the first movie's release in 2007,

  • these documentaries have been translated into 40 different languages,

  • and have been seen by hundreds of millions of people around the world.

  • But the ideas brought forward by the documentaries quickly transcended film

  • and spawned The Zeitgeist Movement: a global-sustainability, advocacy organization

  • that's revolutionizing the way people think and act.

  • Now, the filmmaker will be re-energizing the movement

  • with yet another series entitled 'Interreflections'.

  • Here to talk about the 'Culture In Decline',

  • The Zeitgeist Movement and where there may be a glimmer of hope,

  • I'm joined by the filmmaker himself, Peter Joseph.

  • Peter, thanks so much for coming on. - It's my pleasure, Abby, thank you for having me.

  • - First of all, I think that these movies should be essential viewing

  • for everyone on the planet because you really present these concepts

  • that are not so much new or revolutionary as they are just glaringly obvious truths

  • in the way you articulate them, Peter, but I wanted to get into how you got started.

  • As someone who worked in Wall Street and advertising, when did you step back

  • and analyze your own role in society and decide to radically change course?

  • - Great question; it was a slow evolution really.

  • Like many people brought up in this culture, you end up with

  • a self-interest driven mechanism.

  • I came from a middle class family; we had no real wealth.

  • I came into the world, I went to school, I dropped out

  • due to debt problems like many do today

  • in the educational college/career problem that we have

  • (most college debt is the peak of bankruptcy

  • coupled with medical debts, in aggregate),

  • and I began to realize that there's something going on with this system.

  • I did stuff with Wall Street and advertising trying to keep my self-preservation going,

  • and finally it dawned on me when I made this catharsis film in 2007

  • just called 'Zeitgeist', which became 'Zeitgeist: The Movie'.

  • It was a frustration piece that I made, it just sort of exploded in my mind

  • to the extent that I don't even know where it came from to be frank.

  • It was a big catharsis that I did which I threw up online.

  • It became viral because I think people identified with the same issues and themes,

  • and then that triggered where I am today. I continue to move forward

  • with representative media that is both entertaining

  • and value-shifting in the quality that it pursues,

  • but also extremely educational and ultimately activist-oriented,

  • and that's the whole purpose of my existence at this point.

  • - Thanks for explaining that; let's get right into this. With the elections

  • coming up in less than two weeks, let's talk about the two-party system

  • which you explore a little bit in a recent video that you made, called 'What Democracy?'.

  • What purpose does this system serve to control the population?

  • Do you advocate people to completely remove themselves

  • from the electoral process, or do you see some merit in supporting

  • third party candidates and local politics?

  • - I think we have to deal with what we have at the moment.

  • People should be supporting referendums

  • because that's a form of direct democracy.

  • But the aristocracy game that has emerged,

  • which is an outgrowth of basically the economic system

  • which inherently generates hierarchy, is completely misunderstood.

  • We think we're in a different paradigm today than we were

  • during the age of kings and queens, but we're really not.

  • The kings and queens are behind the scenes and operate within the business/

  • industrial enterprise, which is the driving mechanism

  • of all the values and institutions we have.

  • The figureheads: the elections, the presidents, the Congress,

  • they serve as 'tools' to perpetuate

  • the real driver of our economic system

  • which is the monetary market economy itself.

  • Those values that are there confuse people,

  • and they think that when they go into a voting booth and elect somebody

  • that they're going to change something. But if you look at the historical record

  • (which many have not, especially since the beginning of America),

  • very little change has occurred.

  • Really, when it comes to the election of any single individual,

  • or the conglomerate actions of the Congress or whatever parliament institution,

  • this statistical element is lost unfortunately.

  • This isn't projection to say that "Oh it's just to be cynical

  • and say it doesn't matter if you vote," this is proven.

  • The effect of these elections is not given the correct gravity

  • because it's very small. I'd say maybe 10%

  • is how effective the election of a new president really may be.

  • - Exactly, and it also serves to disempower

  • and disillusion people into thinking that they do have a choice,

  • and every 4 years nothing changes.

  • It really is stifling humanity in that sense.

  • When people look at the current trajectory of the world,

  • it's obvious that we're pretty much on a crash course

  • based on a model of unsustainable growth, Peter.

  • When people look at global capitalism

  • some argue that "It's not a free and fair market,

  • if cronyism were removed from the equation, capitalism would work."

  • But is the two-tiered, just in that we're seeing today, the plutocratic governance

  • and endless war for resources, an inevitability of the capitalist model?

  • - Unfortunately, I would have to declare that it is.

  • I know it's a heated subject and people love to argue with me.

  • I've had endless debates with people who say that the state is the problem,

  • or regulation, and that the market should just be 'free' to do whatever it wants.

  • I argue back that the market is as free as it ever was,

  • in fact it's more free I would say.

  • At least, in the past, there were restrictions on the market economy

  • and how it could influence the aristocracy's decision

  • to basically rule everything through war.

  • Nothing has changed in this regard.

  • You go back to feudalism and you have the same tendency.

  • But the idea that something can be regulated

  • in a system that is inherently corrupt, in my view,

  • a system that clearly says that you can get money

  • and have the freedom to do whatever you want with it,

  • hence the Supreme Court decision that says that

  • spending money for political campaigns is equated to free speech.

  • This delusion that we've come up with,

  • to say that we can spend money for whatever purpose possible

  • and influence anything, is at the core of the vast corruption we see.

  • You can go back to Marx and Thorstein Veblen, you can go back

  • to all sorts of thinkers in the early 20th century who,

  • despite their criticisms, were on to something with this.

  • It is unfortunate how fast people are to shut down this idea.

  • My friend Lee Camp has a famous joke:

  • "We applaud politicians now,

  • that come and tell us that they're not going to give us health insurance in America,"

  • or universal healthcare in America.

  • Why? Because this delusion of socialism has come forward.

  • Any type of communal attribute which isn't related to money,

  • and the 'freedom' of money, now is being misconstrued

  • as something that will lead to tyranny or oppression.

  • We have F.A. Hayek and Ludwig von Mises,

  • and all these economic philosophers that have compounded this notion,

  • and that's one of the core 'religious rituals'

  • of the political establishment to reinforce this idea that freedom

  • and democracy is equated to money.

  • This has justified the vast majority of wars;

  • it justified the disregard for the growing homeless

  • and poverty population in America, and across the world.

  • It has also brainwashed people to disregard humanity on a global scale.

  • We have 1 - 3 billion people either starving to death or in abject poverty,

  • and we don't care about them because our psychology now is so perverted

  • that we can just dismiss them as some anomaly

  • in this social-darwinistic view that we've concocted for ourselves,

  • which unfortunately goes back to Adam Smith.

  • - Absolutely, it does seem we are indoctrinated

  • with this line of thinking. Anything alternative to that is bad,

  • as we've learned through pretty much every institution

  • that I've experienced growing up in this country, and I'm sure around the world.

  • Why is it that people adhere so strongly

  • to these archaic, political and religious institutions

  • in the light of the 21st century advancements in technology,

  • the vast knowledge available to expand humanity's collective consciousness?

  • It seems that we constantly regress back to what we're comfortable with

  • even though they've been proven, historically, to have monumental failures.

  • - Yes. I call it a move from superstition to science.

  • If you look at the social structure,

  • it really goes back so far,

  • and it discludes so many modern advancements

  • that people's traditional values are so caught up

  • in the voting process, in the delegation of authority,

  • and in the general subservience patterns of the peasants,

  • which is what the majority of humanity unfortunately is.

  • They accept it because it's what they've always known and seen.

  • Naturally, people fear change (it's no psychological anomaly),

  • but I think the big issue here is education.

  • People need to understand what's possible and the root causes

  • of all the problems out there. They don't understand

  • the prosperity-driven effects that can come from science and technology,

  • and not just from the gadgets, etc. , but if we actually applied

  • these basic, near empirical principles to social governance,

  • we would end up with a completely new social order.

  • You can call it Natural Law, Resource-Based Economy,

  • basically taking this construct of what works.

  • Like an airplane that flies, we build society like an airplane,

  • as an engineered type of concept. There's really no other way.

  • We live in anarchy system; that's the best way to describe it.

  • We live in a system where each individual is given this bizarre power

  • to make their own decisions under the assumption that in concert

  • the whole of society is going to work out for itself.

  • It's provably false, that's why you have

  • 1% of the population owning 40% of the planet's wealth,

  • because the value system disorder, the psychology generated by this system

  • completely disallows any type of balance to occur

  • in a structural sense. Sustainability and public health

  • are thrown out the window in this model.

  • Not only because of the values you denote and people's fear,

  • but because the system itself keeps compounding

  • the same old, archaic values and fears over and over again.

  • That is the central problem and why The Zeitgeist Movement does everything it can

  • in an educational sense, why I make the films that I do,

  • to really try to drill this home, and to inspire others out there

  • to begin the same drive. I could talk about a larger project

  • that the movement's working on if you'd like to hear about it. - Absolutely.

  • Let's get into that in one second, I just wanted to say, it does seem like it's the fear

  • that really drives us; the fear to not...

  • I guess these archaic institutions keep us stifled,

  • the fear of control of our own lives, I guess,

  • when we really do have so much power, Peter,

  • but let's talk about The Zeitgeist Movement. You really advocate action;

  • really, it's a revolution of the mind, of ideas.

  • How do we stop this global empire from crushing us and the planet,

  • which is pretty much the course that we are currently on;

  • what is The Zeitgeist Movement advocating and how can people get involved?

  • - Yes, I agree with you. It's a revolution of values, that's the real revolution.

  • As far as what people can do,

  • The Zeitgeist Movement attempts to take the lowest grassroots level possible.

  • We want to get important, very technically-viable

  • and non-speculative information out for people to digest.

  • With other programs that we do, we have our numerous event days for awareness;

  • in March, we'll have our Zeitgeist Day event. The global event will be

  • in Los Angeles this year, but we have about 400 sympathetic events

  • all over the world, across usually about 70 countries on average,

  • every time we do this, this will be the 4th year of it.

  • But all of those kind of intellectual exercises aside,

  • there's another project that we are doing called the Global Redesign Institute.

  • This is a very important idea. It's a macro industrial approach

  • to show the world what's possible technically,

  • and in effect alleviate all the confusions they have

  • about what a designed, planned system could be

  • and the type of freedom that really could emerge,

  • as opposed to the propaganda of the establishment that says

  • that that would lead to tyranny.

  • The benefit of such [a system] is so vast.

  • For example, in this project, we'll take different regions and we'll show

  • the technical layout of how we could, say in Los Angeles,

  • have vertical farms of hydroponics and aeroponics

  • run through desalinization processes

  • and nutrient extraction processes from the ocean,

  • so we would be able to feed organic food to everyone,

  • satisfy the entire population of the city of Los Angeles,

  • through these methods, through automated systems.

  • This technology exists, it's been largely dismissed as utopian

  • as that word loves to fly around when you start to talk about

  • taking care of everybody, but this stuff is there.

  • We're going to map out the entire world

  • through time, through the chapters of The Zeitgeist Movement,

  • to show how every region can be updated in this macro industrial way

  • to actually resolve the core major problems of poverty,

  • of general dissemblance, of resource scarcity,

  • and bring these technological fruits to light.

  • I'll stop there because it can go in much larger,

  • complex associations as we build this model.

  • It will be a virtual online model that will be viewable.

  • Then we'll have conferences in partnership with the other events that we do annually

  • to show each region what's possible. I really believe,

  • once this possibility comes forward, rather than everybody being disillusioned

  • by the political and economic establishment, they'll say "This works!

  • Forget complaining!" - Exactly, be part of the solution, be part of the community

  • of ideas, Peter, instead of the naysayers saying what isn't impossible,

  • we really need to step it up.

  • And I really appreciate you exploring humanity's capabilities

  • and capacity for change in a good, alternative and sustainable way.

  • Peter Joseph, The Zeitgeist Movement (everyone check it out, I implore you,

  • you need to see these films! ), thank you so much for coming on.

  • - Thank you Abby, I appreciate it.

  • Many people are conditioned to not bring up politics and religions.

  • They're confined to their own rigid perspectives set by biased media outlets.

  • We must begin to challenge this dogma if we ever want to progress our society

  • and evolve the collective human consciousness.

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