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  • Nuclear waste.

  • The worst type of garbage for raccoons to get into.

  • Now, it's a substance that we all know is dangerous

  • thanks to movies like this.

  • NARRATOR: They tormented him until he had a horrifying

  • accident and fell into a bag of nuclear waste.

  • Melvin became The Toxic Avenger,

  • the first superhero born out of nuclear waste.

  • -His face is so terrifying... -(SCREAMS)

  • NARRATOR: ...we can't show it to you now.

  • You'll have to see the movie for yourself.

  • Honestly, you really don't need to see the movie, 'cause...

  • his face isn't really that terrifying. This is it.

  • I mean it's bad, but its-- it's so ugly,

  • it's almost cute again.

  • It's like-- it's like someone melted a candle shaped

  • -like a pug. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • But-- but the point here is

  • nuclear waste, the radioactive and toxic byproducts

  • from making nuclear energy and weapons is

  • a serious health hazard, and America has a lot of it.

  • ANCHOR: There are more than 71,000 tons of nuclear waste

  • stranded at the nation's 104 reactors.

  • Put all those spent fuel rods together,

  • and you get a pile as big as a football field

  • and more than 20 feet tall.

  • Or you could put them in a pile as big

  • as two football fields and ten feet tall

  • or half a football field and 40 feet tall.

  • Or 20 football fields, one foot tall.

  • The point is, we have a lot of nuclear waste and it's very fun

  • -to play with. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • And look, that is just the waste from nuclear energy.

  • We also have more than 100 million gallons

  • of hazardous liquid waste from producing weapons.

  • And you may live closer to nuclear waste than you think.

  • One out of three Americas lives within 50 miles

  • of high level nuclear waste.

  • Some of which, like plutonium, is lethally dangerous,

  • and will be-- will be around for an incredibly long time.

  • NARRATOR: Even microscopic amounts of plutonium,

  • if ingested, are deadly.

  • One of the characteristics of it is it has

  • an extremely long half-life.

  • Plutonium 239, for example, has a half life

  • of about 24,000 years.

  • It's true, 24,000 years and that just scratches the surface.

  • It takes ten half-lives for plutonium to become harmless

  • so that's 240,000 years.

  • A unit of time more commonly known as one English patient.

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • And as any adult with an American girl doll collection

  • eventually finds out, if you wanna keep something

  • around for a disturbingly long time, you have got to find

  • an appropriate place to put it.

  • "I cannot live with your murder dolls anymore.

  • Felicity stares at me while I sleep!

  • She stares at me!"

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS, CHEERS) -"She stares unblinking!"

  • And look,

  • I'm not the first person to make this point.

  • Look at this news report from 1990.

  • NARRATOR: Almost half a century

  • after nuclear power was harnessed,

  • there still is no agreement on where to store the waste.

  • "We have built the house," said one critic,

  • "and forgotten the toilets."

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS) -A home...

  • with no toilets. Or as a realtor selling a Brooklyn loft

  • is calling it right now, "artisanal composting."

  • Wait.

  • You're suggesting that I shit in that potted plant

  • while you and I both know that I will do that

  • 'cause this is convenient to public transport,

  • and has both northern and eastern exposures.

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • But look, it-- it has been 27 years since that clip

  • and our country still doesn't have a nuclear toilet.

  • And that is our subject tonight.

  • Why do we not have a nuclear toilet?

  • And it's actually easy to understand how we got

  • into this situation. Because during World War Two,

  • we rushed to develop nuclear weapons because we were trying

  • to defeat the Nazis,

  • who, fun fact, pretty much all Americans agreed were bad

  • -at the time. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • Anyway, the-- the thing is,

  • we didn't really have a plan on what to do

  • with all the radioactive byproducts that we produced.

  • And this initially led us

  • to some mind-blowingly stupid solutions.

  • For instance, for years, we actually did this...

  • MAN: They loaded the, uh,

  • radioactive waste and it was in barrels, 55 gallon barrels,

  • of, uh, radioactive waste with concrete poured over it.

  • It's funny, the ocean don't glow out there

  • outside of Red Bank, New Jersey. (CHUCKLES)

  • Really. 'Cause we dumped a lot of barrels out there.

  • -(AUDIENCE GASPS) -That is true.

  • We didn't just dump barrels of radioactive waste

  • in the ocean, we did it off the coast of New Jersey.

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • That is so horrifying!

  • I'm surprised that Jersey Shore was the title of a lighthearted

  • MTV series, and not the name of a harrowing documentary.

  • An entire generation of children was born without thumbs,

  • a phenomenon known to locals as...

  • -"The Situation." -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • And, incidentally,

  • not all of those barrels sank. In fact, in 1957,

  • when two barrels were caught floating off the shore,

  • naval aircraft were summoned to strafe them

  • with machine-gun fire until they sank.

  • That's right.

  • They shot barrels full of nuclear waste

  • with machine guns!

  • That's got to be one of the most terrifying sentences ever said

  • out loud, right after,

  • "Donald Trump is the president now,"

  • and, "Wait, wasn't Felicity on a different shelf

  • when we went to bed last night?

  • Oh, my God! Felicity is a waking nightmare!"

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • Oh!

  • Well, the truth is, tossing barrel-fulls of nuclear waste

  • into the ocean and shooting them

  • with machine guns is actually preferable to at least

  • one genuine other idea that was thankfully rejected,

  • and that was blasting it into space.

  • A concept with a pretty clear flaw.

  • WOMAN: Unfortunately,

  • we don't have a great record

  • with getting rockets out into the atmosphere.

  • If any one of them blew up,

  • that would basically contaminate

  • a large portion of the Earth with radioactive material.

  • (STUDIO AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • WOMAN: So that's probably not a great idea.

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS) -Yeah.

  • You're right. That's probably not a great idea.

  • I mean, a really great idea would be also filling

  • the rockets up with confetti, so at least that way

  • if there's a horrific accident, there's also a party!

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • Now, over the years, we have dumped nuclear waste all over

  • the country and in many places, there've been frightening leaks.

  • Take the Savannah River Site in South Carolina,

  • where waste from poorly-stored material leaked

  • into the ground water.

  • And just watch this alarmingly laid back man explain

  • the consequences of that.

  • MAN: There are radioactive alligators on the site.

  • (STUDIO AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • MAN: Radioactive materials are in the sediments.

  • -(ALLIGATOR HISSING) -(CLANGING)

  • MAN: It's gonna go up the food chain and...

  • there's gonna be radioactive alligators.

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS) -Yeah.

  • Radioactive alligators!

  • They even have names,

  • Tritagator and Dioxinator,

  • after two of the wastes that poisoned them.

  • And that's actually very clever,

  • because if I had to give them names,

  • I don't know, I'd probably have gone with something like,

  • (SCREAMS) "Holy Shit! A Fucking Radioactive Alligator!"

  • And, "Oh No, Fuck Me, There's Another One!

  • What Nightmare Hath God Wrought?"

  • And it's not just reptiles who've been impacted

  • by nuclear waste. Researchers are now studying

  • an area in North St. Louis County, Missouri,

  • where tons of waste from the Manhattan project was

  • improperly stored, some near a creek

  • that winds through residential communities,

  • and people who live there have noticed some alarming trends.

  • JENELL WRIGHT: I got on Facebook in order to reconnect

  • with people from high school...

  • And we all immediately started noticing that so many

  • of us were sick. We've discovered that

  • the Department of Veterans Affairs

  • officially recognizes around 21 cancers associated with exposure

  • to ionizing radiation, and compared that list

  • to what we had.

  • We had all of those cancers, every single one.

  • That is an incredibly depressing thing to discover

  • on Facebook and it's-- it's hard to know how to respond.

  • I mean, you definitely don't want to use

  • the "like" button, because...

  • then it looks like you really like the fact

  • they just got cancer.

  • Now, there is that new sad emoji,

  • which would really be perfect

  • if you hadn't already cheapened it by using it to respond

  • to the news that Chris Pratt and Anna Faris were separating.

  • I mean, it is sad. It is sad. But it is not "21-cancer" sad.

  • It's "nine-cancer" sad. Tops.

  • The point is, thankfully, 60 years ago,

  • our government and the scientific consensus

  • came up with a solution.

  • In 1957, the National Academy of Sciences issued a report

  • urging the creation of a permanent storage facility

  • deep underground. Basically, a nuclear toilet.

  • And while we did build a repository

  • for lower-level waste in New Mexico,

  • we still haven't built one

  • for the most dangerous, high-level waste.

  • And, as a result, it's essentially been left

  • wherever it was made. Which is not good,

  • because those facilities were not built

  • with the idea that they would be storing waste indefinitely.

  • So, to continue the toilet metaphor,

  • we've basically been shitting in bags,

  • leaving them all over the house,

  • and praying that they don't leak.

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • And the most frightening example of this is

  • the Hanford Site in Washington state,

  • which created two third of the plutonium

  • in the US arsenal and is currently storing

  • 56 million gallons of highly toxic

  • and radioactive waste underground.

  • And over the years,

  • there have been so many issues at Hanford,

  • that they've achieved a dubious honor,

  • as one local new-station reported,

  • with an almost prideful tone.

  • ANCHOR: The most contaminated place in the entire

  • Western Hemisphere isn't at a polluting factory

  • or an old chemical plant.

  • It's right here in Washington State.

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) Oh!

  • "It's right here! We did it guys!

  • Washington State, home to the most contaminated place

  • in the Western Hemisphere,

  • thousands of acres of apple orchards,

  • and several of Ted Bundy's grizzliest murders. We did it!

  • Right here!"

  • There have been a string of problems at Hanford,

  • from explosions, to toxic vapor releases,

  • to over a million gallons of waste

  • leaking out of their tanks over the years.

  • It has been so bad, the government has had

  • to pay out nearly one and a half billion dollars

  • in compensation to thousands of workers for illnesses

  • stemming from exposure to radiation

  • and toxic chemicals there.

  • A local news station has done a series of reports

  • on Hanford, and after a tunnel collapse this May,

  • they found some of the infrastructure there is

  • almost comically badly put together.

  • ANCHOR: Mistakes during construction are factors

  • in the dangerous state of the tunnels.

  • They're 55 and 60 years old,

  • well beyond their expected life span.

  • In addition, wood beams holding up the tunnels are eroding,

  • and what corrodes timber beams? Radiation.

  • Yeah!

  • You can't build something out of wood and expect it

  • to last forever. You're supposed to have learned that

  • from the second dumbest of the Three Little Pigs.

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • Hanford... Hanford is a gigantic problem.

  • And even though it hasn't produced anything for 30 years,

  • the Department of Energy still spends

  • nearly two and a half billion dollars a year

  • on cleaning it up, which is close to ten percent

  • of its annual budget.

  • And it is pretty weird

  • to find out that a place you just heard about

  • is getting that much of the DOE's money.

  • It's like finding out that half the Department of Agriculture

  • budget goes to this moose named Gordon.

  • I mean, I don't know the right amount,

  • -but that seems like a lot. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • And in case you're thinking, "Well I'm definitely glad that

  • I don't live near Hanford,"

  • remember there are nuclear power plants storing waste

  • all over the country, lots of it in so-called

  • "spent fuel pools."

  • That's where nuclear fuel rods are supposed to be

  • temporarily placed to cool down,

  • and then put into dry containers,

  • and then moved

  • to permanent underground storage sites.

  • But remember, we don't have one of those.

  • And in many places those pools are just accumulating

  • more and more rods.

  • And while experts say it's highly unlikely,

  • if a Fukushima-like accident happens at one of those,

  • the results could be catastrophic.

  • ANCHOR: The northeast has a number of nuclear power plants,

  • including the Indian Point plant just outside of New York City.

  • If any one of those were to have

  • a severe spent fuel pool accident,

  • you're taking away a lot of big cities,

  • a lot of farm lands, a lot of the United States,

  • for decades, perhaps centuries.

  • That's right, lots of big cities.

  • New York, Hartford, Boston.

  • And that last one is a real shame,

  • 'cause as I understand it, they only just got

  • un-racist yesterday.

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS) -So...

  • I mean, at least they could get to enjoy their new life.

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS) -So...

  • So, look, it is pretty clear we need to find

  • a permanent facility to store our most dangerous waste.

  • And 30 years ago, we actually settled on a site,

  • Yucca Mountain in Nevada.

  • Congress passed a law designating it

  • as our sole candidate for waste storage.

  • Now since then, we've spent 15 billion dollars

  • prepping the site,

  • as you can see from this rather upbeat video.

  • NARRATOR: Located about 100 miles

  • northwest of Las Vegas,

  • Yucca mountain is the most thoroughly researched site

  • of its kind in the world.

  • Experts throughout the world agree that the most

  • feasible and safe method

  • for disposing of highly radioactive materials

  • is to store them deep underground.

  • That's right. The best place

  • to put nuclear waste is in a hole deep underground.

  • Much like Felicity.

  • Wait. Wait, if she's not there, where is she?

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS) -Ah, Jesus fucking Christ!

  • Fuck me!

  • Jesus! Fucking-- Get the fuck away!

  • (PANTING)

  • (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

  • (PANTING)

  • -(AUDIENCE CHEERS) -It's alright. It's okay.

  • I'm fine.

  • It's fine.

  • The point is...

  • So, Yucca mountain is our permanent storage site.

  • So the problem is solved, right? Well, no!

  • Because while the site has been deemed safe,

  • and the people in the immediate area,

  • Nye County, actually support the project,

  • many Nevadans elsewhere in the state

  • really don't want it.

  • And their former senator, Harry Reed, lobbied hard,

  • eventually managing to get Yucca shot down.

  • Now, to be fair, he did have an alternative plan

  • for all the states sitting on their nuclear waste,

  • but to put it mildly,

  • it was not exactly scientifically-sound.

  • Leave it on site, where it is.

  • Leave it where it is, and dry cast storage containers.

  • If you were smart, what you would do is, uh...

  • leave this...

  • leave it where it is.

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • "If you're smart, what you would do is leave

  • the thing where it is" is terrible advice

  • for dealing with nuclear waste.

  • Although, it is coincidentally

  • the title of Britain's bestselling book on parenting.

  • -But... But... -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • Here... Here is the truth.

  • the scientific consensus for decades

  • has been that leaving it where it is is a really bad idea.

  • The shutted power plant at San Onofre, in California,

  • is storing nuclear waste, and it's on a fault line

  • right next to the ocean.

  • And that sounds like something you learn

  • in the first scene of a movie starring The Rock

  • that you watch on a plane.

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS) -And look,

  • maybe Yucca is the best place

  • to store our growing supply of radioactive garbage.

  • Maybe it's not.

  • I am not a nuclear scientist. I just have the face of one.

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS) -And... And our--

  • Our new energy secretary, Rick Perry...

  • yes, Rick Perry...

  • has said that he is optimistic about fixing

  • the whole problem, which does sound great.

  • Although, he didn't exactly do a great job

  • at dealing with this disaster.

  • ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪

  • (STUDIO AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • Yeah, that was him on Dancing with the Stars,

  • and on the basis of that, managing volatile energy

  • is not really his forte.

  • But here's the thing. We've been saying

  • that we are going to fix this for decades now,

  • and we seem to be no closer to a solution.

  • And let me show you something

  • that really drove that fact home to us,

  • because we've been researching this story

  • for a couple of weeks now, and just yesterday afternoon,

  • we stumbled on a TV special from 1977,

  • the year that I was born.

  • ♪ (MUSIC PLAYING) ♪

  • NARRATOR: NBC News presents...

  • Danger! Radioactive Waste.

  • Yeah, this problem is so old

  • they reported on it back when the news was kept

  • in an America-shaped vault that you had to open

  • with a crank.

  • As we watched that yesterday, we gradually

  • and chillingly realized that by pure coincidence

  • it hits every beat of the story that we just told you.

  • It opens with footage of sailors throwing barrels

  • into the ocean.

  • It looks at the facilities at Hanford.

  • It talks about radiation's impact on workers

  • and on families who live nearby.

  • And while it doesn't have a radioactive alligator,

  • it does have radioactive cows.

  • Which is-- which is still good. Although,

  • I did prefer our alligator.

  • I liked it when he went... (HISSES)

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS) -But--

  • But the most chilling moment

  • in that documentary might be the one where they sit down

  • with someone in authority, and demand to know

  • exactly when this will be fixed.

  • NARRATOR: When you ask when the problem will be solved,

  • you get answers like this.

  • WOMAN: What's the realistic time table?

  • Realistic time table is scheduled to have

  • a repository in operation by 1985,

  • with the selection of the sites by the end of 1978

  • for detailed work.

  • Exactly.

  • Nuclear waste is a problem we were supposed to have dealt

  • with in the 1980's and still cannot solve,

  • much like this Rubik's Cube that I always carry with me.

  • You are my Jean Valjean, cube, and, one day,

  • -I shall defeat you. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

  • And at the end of that special, remember,

  • 40 years ago, the correspondent delivers this special message.

  • The waste increases every minute.

  • The solution of where to put it is years away.

  • And none of the previous solutions has worked.

  • We are accustomed in this country to act

  • only in times of crisis.

  • But with nuclear waste,

  • when the crisis comes, it will be too late.

  • And that was from four decades ago.

  • We have already waited way too long to resolve this issue.

  • And we are dancing with trouble here.

  • So if any one says the government

  • can just continue to wait,

  • they are much like a house with no toilet.

  • Absolutely full of shit.

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHS, APPLAUDS)

Nuclear waste.

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