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  • - On this episode Casey stops by.

  • Again.

  • (hip hop music)

  • You ask questions.

  • And I answer them.

  • This is

  • The #AskGaryVee Show.

  • - You know I think it was like 122 or something.

  • We had the same count on your show

  • and on my show the same day.

  • - Are you serious?

  • - Yeah, it was like the moons aligned for a minute, Gary.

  • (laughs)

  • - Did videos explode?

  • - Yeah, I mean...

  • - Case, tell the Vayner Nation

  • for the one or two people that don't know who you are.

  • This is a first time,

  • second time guest appearance.

  • And we've only had like

  • three guests ever.

  • So clearly, I like you a lot, Case.

  • - Thanks, man. I mean, it's great to be here.

  • Who am I? I make videos.

  • I have a technology company.

  • And I'm a huge admirer of you, Gary.

  • And this wonderful show that you've been putting

  • out there for all of us viewers.

  • - I appreciate it.

  • So, I think we'll just get right into it.

  • I think we had a lot of questions yesterday.

  • Kinda tweeted out that you'd be here

  • and people got excited.

  • You have a new startup.

  • Which we'll give some time, I'd like you

  • to talk about it for a few minutes.

  • - Great.

  • - But India.

  • That's why I went on the left side.

  • - I know. (laughs)

  • - Let's...

  • Get into...

  • The show. (laughs)

  • Not bad, you are getting better.

  • I'm gonna have to find some new ticks

  • to throw you off.

  • India let's get into it.

  • - [Voiceover] Lucy asks,

  • "At the age of 18, what's the best way to approach a company

  • "and ask for work experience?"

  • - Wait-- - Ask for an internship?

  • - You ask for work? Don't you just ask for work?

  • - [India] I guess because a lot people

  • come to companies and it says like

  • you need this many years of experience.

  • - Oh, I see. - [Gary] I see.

  • - [India] But how do you get that experience

  • if nobody wants to hire you because everybody--

  • - When you're 18.

  • - [India] Yeah.

  • - I got an answer to this, I mean

  • I think that we now live in a world--

  • Casey, how many people,

  • how many people hit you up on Twitter, email,

  • other platforms, comments and YouTube,

  • you must have a gadrillion.

  • How many times have you in your career--

  • When would you say that you started really building

  • into a place where people were really pinging you?

  • Is this now a two, three, four year phenomenon for you?

  • - For work?

  • - Yes.

  • Not for work, more like people that are fans of you,

  • clearly at this point.

  • - It's been a long time.

  • - How long, do you think?

  • - I mean, I think since the first video I made went viral

  • over 10 years ago.

  • - Got it. So, it's been pretty consistent since then?

  • - Yeah. - Good,

  • how many times have you randomly done stuff?

  • Yes, met someone, got on a phone.

  • How many times?

  • - Now, if I could count that, Gary.

  • More than I could ever keep track of.

  • - That's your answer.

  • Who was the question? - [India] Lucy.

  • - Lucy that's your answer.

  • I also--

  • The majority of this entire team

  • is based on random shit.

  • Like so, I think you just ask as many times as possible.

  • There are unlimited companies in a world you can get

  • to almost anybody because of Twitter,

  • again, a true social network.

  • More so than comments on content

  • which a lot of other platforms are.

  • Email, at this point, I think has been played out.

  • It's harder to get to people through email.

  • But that will still work too.

  • I think it's stunning that you can get

  • to most people in the world today.

  • I don't think people,

  • as many people are as wired as you and I.

  • I think people have drawn the line to no

  • but there's plenty.

  • We're not the only two nice guys

  • believing in serendipity.

  • There are tens of thousands wildly accomplished

  • CEOs, co-founders, that will absolutely hire you

  • on spec from one request to get experience

  • whether they give you an internship

  • or pay you minimum wage or even give you a salary.

  • It is a wide open field.

  • It's about asking.

  • - Yeah, I mean, I would even complement what,

  • everything Gary just said, I'd complement that, Lucy

  • by saying, you also have an opportunity via these myriad

  • social outlets and the internet as a whole.

  • Not just to reach out and contact people

  • but to actually prove yourself.

  • Like, if you need to show this experience

  • that these people are seeking after,

  • just do it.

  • You don't need someone's permission to do that.

  • If you wanna work in construction, build something.

  • If you wanna work in an automotive factory,

  • work on cars.

  • If you wanna be a filmmaker, make videos.

  • You now have these multitude of options in front of you

  • to show that you're capable.

  • If you wanna be a writer, write something.

  • - You know what happens in that environment?

  • If you actually have it,

  • not everybody has it.

  • But if you actually have it,

  • you start getting into a place very quickly

  • that you realize, oh wait,

  • I don't need to have a job in the first place. (laughs)

  • - That's right,

  • no longer do you need the runway to prove your worth on.

  • You don't need someone else's approval,

  • you just do it yourself.

  • Scary and very hard to do,

  • it's not to be underestimated just how challenging that is

  • but it doesn't mean that the opportunity isn't there

  • and that opportunity wasn't there 10, 15 years ago.

  • But it's uniquely there now.

  • - We're byproducts of that game.

  • - My entire career is product of that game.

  • - I had a liquor store in New Jersey and got

  • 300 dollar camera at Best Buy

  • and decided to make wine videos

  • because I wanted to be like Emeril.

  • - Wine videos. - Wine videos.

  • India, let's move it.

  • Oh, by the way, I didn't get weird there out of nowhere.

  • We are streaming on Facebook live right now.

  • Be interesting to see--

  • It's a whole different dynamic 'cause these shows

  • are consumed so much on Facebook live

  • which launched yesterday.

  • India?

  • - [Voiceover] Benjamin asks,

  • "Where does confidence come from?

  • "How do you both work on it?"

  • - That's tough.

  • - I'll let you go first here.

  • (laughs)

  • - Confidence, I mean--

  • - Hold on.

  • - [Voiceover] That's awesome.

  • - Yeah, I couldn't (laughs)

  • - You didn't know the address?

  • - Gary, over your left shoulder is my electric skateboard.

  • Right there. - Yes.

  • - I rode that electric skateboard up here.

  • And if there's one thing you don't wanna do while traveling

  • 24 miles an hour in heavy traffic through New York City,

  • on an electric skateboard is to whip out your phone

  • and double check an address.

  • - Respect.

  • - So you gotta write that down.

  • - Respect.

  • All right, answer Ben's question about your outrageous level

  • How does one have enough confidence to ride

  • an electronic skateboard 24 miles an hour in New York City?

  • - I have an answer that's not really a great one

  • for people to hear, so I'm hoping you have

  • a better answer than I do, Gary.

  • My answer goes like this,

  • I'm one of four kids.

  • There was the first born.

  • The only daughter.

  • And the baby.

  • And then there's the forgotten child, Casey.

  • So in my household, it was like fight to survive.

  • And my confidence was like born into me

  • out of need to just exist and be noticed and be fed.

  • Now, not everyone has had the beautiful misfortune

  • that yielded the fortune of my childhood

  • that turned me into a confident person.

  • But I think it's very different from someone who

  • finds themselves, as an adult, in a world that sort of

  • thrives on those who have confidence

  • and being forced to find that within yourself.

  • But one shortcut I found to that is making something.

  • Making anything.

  • Whether that's writing something,

  • whether it's something creative,

  • whether it's something more pragmatic.

  • Whether that's a relationship,

  • whether that's a friendship.

  • If you generate something you can take sort of,

  • you take comfort in what it is that you've just made

  • in your yield and I think that's a really great shortcut

  • to finding confidence.

  • - Casey, answer--

  • Give me a word association play really quick here.

  • Fear.

  • - Illness.

  • - Illness?

  • - Yeah, that's--

  • - I really didn't want you to go there.

  • Thanks for screwing up my answer.

  • (laughs)

  • For me--

  • - The only thing, being sick is the only thing

  • that I'm scared of.

  • - By the way, that's really funny.

  • Actually, that's really interesting.

  • Because I was dissing a little bit

  • and now I'm gonna put you on a pedestal.

  • It is literally the health and well-being of the people I--

  • Weirdly, for me, it's the people I love

  • is scary ass crap for me.

  • It's a very big challenge

  • and we all go through it.

  • And so, I'm with you on that.

  • Where I was going with that, is this,

  • I am not scared to fail,

  • by any stretch of the imagination.

  • And it comes in the form of truly being in this weird place

  • where I really don't give a rat's ass what anybody thinks.

  • And again, that's wiring.

  • How does one work on that?

  • What do you think I sit--

  • What do you think I go in my room like,

  • "Don't care what anybody thinks.

  • Don't care what anybody--"

  • (laughs)

  • Like, you don't do that.

  • - Yeah, you get made fun of a lot in high school

  • and it seems like the entire world is falling apart

  • because you're being picked on.

  • - I want people to make fun of me.

  • - You grow up and it realize it doesn't matter

  • what other people think.

  • - I do, India. - You really don't.

  • It really doesn't.

  • And appreciating that--

  • - It's like those last two weeks of high school.

  • If you can capture that feeling.

  • - Those last two weeks in high school,

  • literally, everybody stops caring what anybody thinks

  • 'cause you're all going somewhere else.

  • And so, I've always had that feeling.

  • It's crazy how, you know,

  • I was born with confidence, I truly believe that.

  • I do believe, in my case, I also have the fortunate aspects

  • of coming from a struggle place, in a different way.

  • On the flip side, my mom, I was the first born.

  • The apple of my mom's eye.

  • And so I had massive positive reinforcement

  • which then just made me feel entitled to success.

  • In an environment where I was failing classes.

  • I was 4 foot 11 when I went

  • into my freshman year of high school.

  • Not so strong... - Rough, rough.

  • -of a situation. (laughs)

  • But I walked out--

  • I mean my book bag was bigger.

  • Where's you big book bag?

  • - Didn't bring it today, not on the skateboard, Gary.

  • - Like, I literally--

  • My book bag was like your size.

  • Let me tell you story about my freshman year.

  • Ninth day of school, I'm walking down the hallway.

  • I'm late for a class.

  • I have a Jordache book bag

  • (laughs)

  • that's twice the size of me.

  • I'm walking.

  • It's like eight minutes after the bell rang,

  • I'm lost as fuck

  • 'cause we have huge high school, I have do idea where I am.

  • This is terrible, right.

  • There's some dude, hanging out

  • of class with Paige Parlow

  • who was one of the hottest girls in our school.

  • It eight days into school, I know who she is.

  • She's a sophomore, he's a senior.

  • I'm walking by them.

  • He goes, "Psst."

  • I go, (beep).

  • I go, "Yeah."

  • He goes, "The nursery school's over there."

  • That's

  • what happened to me.

  • Do you know what I went through,

  • what went through my mind?

  • I said, wait till (beep) (beep) (beep) face, punk.

  • (laughs)

  • Sorry, India.

  • That's what went through my mind.

  • And that's just where I've always been. (laughs)

  • I know it was a little crude.

  • - Gary Vaynerchuk, folks.

  • (laugh)

  • - All right, let's move on.

  • (laughs)

  • - [India] From Allen.

  • - India's blushing right now.

  • - I am, but I blush all the time, so.

  • - [Gary] Andrew's really blushing.

  • - That was funny, I'm sorry.

  • (laughs)

  • - [Voiceover] Allen asks,

  • "Casey, how will define if Beme is a success or not,

  • "if you haven't already?"

  • - I definitely haven't already.

  • Beme which is my technology startup.

  • Here's some context for--

  • - Link that up DRock,

  • in the Facebook post,

  • in the YouTube post.

  • Let's make sure everyone who watches--

  • - In fact, we'll put a link below that if you click on it

  • we'll automatically unlock Beme for you

  • and you will automatically be following Gary.

  • - Oh.

  • - You like that?

  • We're working, it's a new product we got a new feature--

  • - Take that (beep) (beep). (laughs)

  • - In the history of social networks,

  • there's maybe been, what,

  • what would you say?

  • How many have succeeded, eight?

  • - Seven. - Seven.

  • That is the swimming pool

  • that we are currently wading around in.

  • So to call yourself a success

  • - And I think that we define that as a success

  • of like such meaningful scale,

  • financial stability,

  • looking like it's gonna go in the right direction.

  • - Social impact.

  • - Impact, for sure.

  • - To me, that is a success.

  • And I mean it, when you can count it on less than two hands

  • how many companies have succeeded.

  • It's not just catching a unicorn.

  • It is the most, the rarest, hardest thing

  • you could ever hope to accomplish

  • in the space of technology.

  • That's what we're trying to do,

  • so have I considered it a success?

  • Not even close.

  • Ask me in four or five years.

  • - Click the app.

  • Yeah, I mean look,

  • to me one can argue that it's a success right now.

  • The amount of people that I come across

  • who are doing other things in their career

  • that wanna go then make a app

  • that has the ambition to win the consumer web game

  • is extraordinarily high.

  • The amount that even saw the day of light,

  • even saw the day of light with well financed funding.

  • That's repetitive.

  • With money.

  • With all those things going in their way,

  • is very small.

  • Then to have that happen on top of which

  • to have a very smart, you're a tremendous marketer.

  • You know, that means a lot to me.

  • I'm sure you define yourself in a lot of different ways

  • but your marketing skills are very high, I admire them.

  • The amount of noise and excitement that was generated

  • felt amazing to me, then you gotta back it up.

  • So, now there's the next challenge.

  • Now's the tough part.

  • Is actually making the product at that level.

  • - Yeah, I mean some of the--

  • - Tim?

  • Are you typing a new, I'm sorry.

  • Don't do a new one.

  • If it's done, it's done.

  • - [Voiceover] Okay.

  • - Cool, all right.

  • - We just lost our Facebook feed.

  • - No, no, okay.

  • - But some,

  • some of the greatest failures ever were

  • a gigantic pile, an aggregate of tiny successes.

  • So I appreciate everything you just said

  • and I really hold dear the tiny successes we've had thus far

  • - 60 seconds for everybody who's watching

  • what it is, how you describe in 60.

  • I know that's tough but--

  • - What Beme is,

  • is Beme is a way of sharing via video

  • the tiny moments you experience in life

  • and doing it in a way that's absolutely dynamic

  • but doesn't interrupt the moment.

  • And within this 60 second window

  • I demonstrate to you exactly how that happens

  • and it looks like this.

  • Like right now, I'm capturing video of this entire set.

  • Of Gary's beautiful face just like that

  • and when you hear the noise

  • (phone beeps)

  • that means it's been shared to all of my followers.

  • That's what Beme is.

  • - You know what I love?

  • But you'll never be able to see what you just shared.

  • - Well, not until it's live in the network

  • and everybody else can.

  • And that's the whole idea.

  • Is to remove the scrutiny.

  • It's to remove sort of,

  • controlling the image of yourself

  • in life that you put out there.

  • I'd like to say, Beme is not about sharing

  • how the world sees you.

  • It's sharing how you see the world.

  • - And what's interesting about that is,

  • what's really happening in social is

  • platforms are showing who you want to be to the world.

  • We are all living in the most PR'd version of ourselves.

  • We have 15 year old girls

  • running around America right now

  • who are massive growth hackers

  • who understand the speed in which likes come in

  • on an Instagram photo that took them 17 minutes to take

  • and then they take it down within the first 60 seconds

  • because they don't like the data that's coming back as fast.

  • - Right.

  • - And they reset.

  • Literally, three hour dynamics to pull off the one picture

  • that's gonna capture the moment of the concert you went to

  • which is PR at its finest.

  • It's an interesting dynamic.

  • - Yeah, we're trying to get away from that.

  • Because I think our,

  • the ethos, the principle behind this, our mission statement

  • is to promote understanding by sharing perspective.

  • And I think if you can tap into other people's perspectives,

  • you get a better idea as to what the world is around you.

  • - When I--

  • I'm an investor.

  • When I really got excited,

  • I'm still excited for this moment, is

  • the thought of like the first time I go on stage

  • and Beme to me is so exciting.

  • Like literally, people seeing what I get to see

  • when I give these keynotes versus watching me

  • is an exciting moment for me.

  • - Do you know, and we can stop talking about Beme

  • in a second, but last night

  • a friend of my named Shon,

  • Shonduras you know him from Snapchat.

  • - Yeah, yeah.

  • - Shon Bemed his daughter being born.

  • - What?

  • (whistles)

  • - I mean, my wife and I watched it this morning in bed

  • and we were both crying.

  • I mean it was unbelievable.

  • It wasn't the yucky stuff

  • and it wasn't the stuff that you would deem inappropriate.

  • But it was his wife in the chair, in the bed being anxious

  • and in the next shot he's holding

  • his beautiful newborn baby girl.

  • - That's cool.

  • - And it was such an emotional, such a real, raw thing.

  • And that's we're hoping to accomplish.

  • He didn't think, he just shared.

  • - Love it.

  • - Next question.

  • - [Voiceover] Alex asks,

  • "What advice would you give to a high school student

  • "struggling to decide what to pursue as a future career?"

  • - I've got an answer.

  • Get busy.

  • Do something, do anything.

  • And one of my favorite pieces of advice

  • as to exactly what you should do,

  • is do something you hate.

  • Like, I didn't find my passion for entrepreneuralship

  • and filmmaking and everything that I've done in my career.

  • I didn't find that by doing it.

  • I found that by scrubbing pots

  • in a really terrible seafood restaurant.

  • Because when you spend 50 hours a week scrubbing pots,

  • it's 50 hours a week you're obsessing

  • about what you wish you were doing.

  • Sitting around playing video games

  • in your parents' sweet house

  • is the worst way to find your mission in life.

  • Do something, staying busy is a really, really easy path

  • to find something you truly wanna invest yourself in.

  • - I would also then say to recognize

  • that playing video games in your parents' sweet house

  • is probably your outlet to success in your career.

  • I would say that your ultimate strengths and wants

  • are the quickest gateway drug to upside

  • once you recognize that there's something to be done there.

  • Too many of you, in the world

  • don't believe that the thing they like doing the most

  • has financial upside.

  • We've drawn a line in the sand,

  • that the thing we like is what we do when

  • we have time to do it like.

  • And the other places to either make money or get by.

  • So many people are in the other bucket

  • are driven by, I'm gonna go into finance

  • 'cause that's where the money is.

  • Or I just need enough money

  • and then I'm gonna have good work-life balance,

  • I'll be on the softball team, I'll play video games.

  • I really believe--

  • I really believe that somebody who's watching this right now

  • who obsesses on being on six soft ball teams right now,

  • literally can make 127,000 dollars a year in ad revenue

  • and live events and a couple other sponsorships

  • and selling a couple t-shirts

  • by literally becoming the authority on softball

  • in America.

  • - My son who is a junior in high school

  • is spending a good piece of his summer,

  • including right now, today

  • at a university in Connecticut studying computer,

  • computer science, specifically focused on video game design.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Just to back up video playing.

  • - Video game culture in 19--

  • When we were kids.

  • To think it was a mass industry.

  • I mean E-Sport's gonna be bigger than baseball

  • in this country in 20 years.

  • E-Sport's is gonna be a bigger business

  • than major league baseball in 20, 30 years from now.

  • I'll go 30, I'm gonna hedge a little bit.

  • In 30 years from now.

  • I mean, that is incredible to me.

  • India.

  • - [Voiceover] Atiyya asks,

  • "If you could swap out one quality of your won

  • "for one of Casey's, and vice versa, what would it be?"

  • - Mine's very easy.

  • I don't know if you know me well enough

  • to answer this question but mine's very easy.

  • I'm a wimp when it comes to physical stuff.

  • I don't ride skateboards.

  • I don't surf or ski.

  • I do very little risk

  • adventure.

  • I look at GoPro's, I'm like,

  • who gives a rat's ass?

  • Like that's not even in my consideration set.

  • You know, one time jumped off a 50 foot cliff

  • in Jamaica, I still can't believe I did that.

  • (laughs)

  • Because there was a lot of chicks there.

  • Stuff was like peer pressure, college stuff.

  • I mean, like fuck it, everybody jumped too.

  • Some like eight year old jumped,

  • like all right (laughs).

  • So, having a little bit of an adventurous bone

  • would be intriguing to me.

  • I mean look, I'm super happy the way I am

  • but if I have to answer the question,

  • having a little bit of that free spiritedness

  • I think is really attractive to me.

  • - I'm gonna go really specific here, Gary

  • and that's your taste in and eye for wine.

  • You know, I am an uneducated kid

  • from a lower middle class house.

  • Yet, I present myself as someone who's fairly sophisticated.

  • But when it comes to wine which all conversations

  • in this world lead to wine,

  • (laughs)

  • I couldn't tell you which one came from a box

  • and which one came from Gary's cellar.

  • And that's something I really appreciate

  • that you treat like an art form, Gary.

  • - I have a feeling we're gonna have video

  • maybe in a, I think in 12 to 18 months from now

  • we are gonna have to drink very high end wine

  • while jumping out of a plane or something.

  • We're just gonna combine this--

  • - I hope not in that order.

  • - No, no, in that order.

  • We're gonna be really--

  • We may forget the parachute out.

  • It'll be big news.

  • We'll probably get the most press we've ever gotten.

  • - That's true. - You know, we're gone.

  • - Great YouTube video.

  • - We just drank too much wine, forget to pull the cord.

  • - Lot of clicks, yeah.

  • Before we end this video.

  • - Yes? - You're looking buff, man.

  • - Crazy right?

  • - Yeah, you're getting jacked, huh?

  • - It's happening. - Yeah, big time.

  • - It's happening.

  • But you, I mean look at this.

  • Give them something, give them something.

  • Give 'em a little--

  • - Ah, you're making me shy.

  • It's just this is because I have to carry

  • this big ass camera around all the time.

  • That's the only reason why I have the physique I have.

  • It's to support my career.

  • - Case, the guest always gets to ask the question of the day

  • What question?

  • I know you're ready, you had to pull one out the last time.

  • Don't repeat it.

  • You were trying to recall what it was,

  • so I'm buying you some time.

  • Anything you'd like, fire away.

  • - That I ask the audience?

  • - Mm-hm, and they're gonna answer in the comment section.

  • - Okay, how about something broad?

  • Which is,

  • Give us some generic advice

  • for how we could be better

  • communicators to you.

  • Gary and I both have - [Gary] I like that.

  • this platform that we've built,

  • but we have this big platform that's a huge loudspeaker

  • that we can speak to a lot of people from.

  • What is it that we don't talk about enough?

  • What is that we should be sharing more of

  • that could have a great impact?

  • - Or how? - Yeah.

  • - Or how? - Yeah.

  • - That stuff we hear and we appreciate.

  • This was great.

  • - Thanks for being on the show.

  • - Yeah, of course, any time.

  • - Yeah.

  • I'll save it for the next one.

  • You keep asking questions,

  • We'll keep answering them.

  • (hip hop music)

- On this episode Casey stops by.

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#AskGaryVee Episode 128: Casey Neistat is Back

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    科克库都克 に公開 2018 年 05 月 20 日
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