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  • >> Steven Jobs figures heroically in the history

  • of American entrepreneurship.

  • At the age of 22 he founded a company called Apple Computer

  • and proceeded to grow it into a $2 billion business.

  • In the spring of 1985 he lost a power struggle inside Apple

  • and left the company he had created.

  • He spent the summer considering his next move

  • and resolved to begin again.

  • In September he started a new computer company

  • with his own money.

  • With characteristic flair, he called it NeXT Incorporated.

  • This morning at its offices in Silicon Valley, California,

  • the company is about to get a first look at its new trademark,

  • the signature it hopes to make familiar around the world.

  • The designer, Paul Rand, created the logos for IBM,

  • Westinghouse, UPS, and many others.

  • Rand doesn't normally work for infant companies even

  • if they could afford him, but NeXT isn't an ordinary startup.

  • >> The idea is to, please don't open,

  • don't look at the back first.

  • This is the front.

  • And don't get scared, this is not the design.

  • [laughter] The reason I did this was to sort of floor Steve

  • when he saw it, you know and think,

  • Jesus 100,000 bucks down the drain.

  • [laughter] [Inaudible]

  • >> Jobs has had a sneak preview of the logo and loves it.

  • As he waits for a verdict

  • from his staff he can hardly contain his excitement.

  • Assertive as he is, he values consensus.

  • Most of these young computer and software designers were

  • on the team that developed the Macintosh.

  • They left secure jobs at Apple to follow their boss

  • in pursuit of his new vision.

  • Steve's goal is to transform the learning process at the college

  • and graduate school level with a powerful computer

  • and a new kind of software.

  • >> And we decided we wanted to start a company that had a lot

  • to do with education, and in particular, higher education;

  • colleges and universities.

  • So what our vision is is that there's a revolution

  • in software going on now on college and university campuses,

  • and it has to do with providing two types

  • of breakthrough software.

  • One is called simulated learning environments.

  • It's where you can't give a student

  • in physics a linear accelerator.

  • You can't give a student

  • in biology a $5 million recombinant DNA laboratory

  • but you can simulate those things.

  • You can simulate them on a very powerful computer,

  • and it is not possible for students to afford these things.

  • It is not possible for most faculty members

  • to afford these things.

  • So if we can take what we do best which is

  • to find really great technology and pull it

  • down to a price point that's affordable to people,

  • if we can do the same thing for this type of computer

  • which is maybe 10 times as powerful as a personal computer

  • that we did for personal computers,

  • then I think we can make a real difference

  • in the way the learning experience happens

  • in the next five years.

  • And that's what we're trying to do.

  • [ Waves crashing ]

  • Companies come and go at the crest of the wave.

  • I mean you know IBM had their day way back when when they,

  • you know, they were at the crest.

  • >> In December, 1985, in business for just 90 days,

  • Jobs and his 11 employees hold their first retreat.

  • Company retreats like this are the continuation

  • of a tradition Steve established at Apple early on.

  • Watching him in action at these brainstorming sessions is an

  • opportunity to observe him at his lucid best

  • as a company builder and motivator.

  • >> Slicing into the future.

  • >> His opening remarks reveal his faith in high technology

  • and his idealism, an unusual combination

  • that is part of his uniqueness.

  • In effect, he is planting the seeds

  • of a new corporate culture.

  • >> More important than building a product, we are in the process

  • of architecting a company that will hopefully be much,

  • much more incredible-- the total will be much more incredible

  • than the sum of its parts.

  • And the cumulative effort of approximately, you know,

  • 20,000 decisions that we're all going to make

  • over the next two years are going

  • to define what our company is.

  • And one of the things that made Apple great was

  • that in the early days, it was built from the heart.

  • Not by somebody who came in

  • and said I know how to build a company.

  • Here's what you do.

  • Da da da da da da da.

  • It wasn't built that way.

  • It was built from the heart.

  • Now unfortunately we didn't always use our heads

  • and we can do better in many respects because we are wiser

  • and smarter and know more and those kinds of things.

  • But one of the most important things,

  • one of my largest wishes is that we build NeXT from the heart

  • and the people that are thinking about coming to work for us

  • or buying or products or who want

  • to sell us things feel that, that we're doing this

  • because we have a passion about it.

  • We're doing this because we really care

  • about the higher educational process,

  • not because we want to make a buck.

  • Not because, you know, we just want to do it to do it.

  • >> Jobs can be overbearing and impatient,

  • but this team knows what to expect

  • and is not easily intimidated.

  • They are smart and they are focused.

  • And their preferred language is computer ease.

  • >> They actually provided analogous

  • to [inaudible] small talk.

  • [Inaudible] provided you a way to drop actually

  • into [inaudible] and program the actions that happened

  • when you double clicked on an icon

  • or when you dropped something on an icon.

  • >> We have to create a product that's an order

  • of magnitude more powerful than the current generation of PCs.

  • >> For two solid days the group listens

  • to progress reports from each department.

  • The goal is to arrive at design decisions, production deadlines,

  • and a marketing strategy aimed at selling on college campuses.

  • >> is define the problem.

  • >> The point is that June, July,

  • and August are the timeframes when people do work.

  • When they, when the school's out and when the people

  • or researchers and the staff that deal

  • with making computing happen for September,

  • that's when they do work.

  • >> That is, that's like a bomb run.

  • You don't change your target when you're in the bomb run.

  • >> From the sidelines, Jobs probes and challenges.

  • He has a remarkable ability

  • to identify the conclusions implicit

  • in what the others have to say.

  • >> So really the next 90 days are real important.

  • >> We are going to make it or break it based

  • on whether we can provide products to higher education

  • and services and relationships to higher education

  • that no one else provides.

  • And I think we ought to spend 100%

  • of our time thinking about that.

  • And if we can't do that, then we ought to go broke.

  • There needs to be someone who is sort of the keeper

  • and reiterator of the vision

  • because there's just a ton of work to do.

  • And a lot of times, you know, when you have

  • to walk 1,000 miles and you take the first step it looks

  • like a long ways.

  • And it really helps if there's someone there saying well we're

  • one step closer.

  • You know the goal definitely exists.

  • It's not just a mirage out there.

  • So in 1001 little, and sometimes larger ways,

  • the vision needs to be reiterated.

  • I do that a lot.

  • >> There was the price one, the schedule one--

  • >> The technology.

  • >> and technology.

  • >> Yeah.

  • >> Jobs continually interrupts to focus the lens

  • of his vision on priorities.

  • By the end of the first day the team has established the

  • critical importance of keeping the price of the computer

  • within the reach of students and professors

  • and bringing the product to market by spring 1987.

  • A survey of college campuses has indicated

  • that the new computer should sell for no more than $3,000

  • to be considered affordable.

  • Since college buying takes place in the summer, Jobs is concerned

  • that a failure to have their product ready

  • by spring 1987 will delay the company an entire year.

  • >> If we don't deliver this by spring '87,

  • we're out of business so my first priority is

  • to make sure this damn thing is out by spring '87.

  • >> I think spring can basically push out to summer,

  • but I also hear that that is number one.

  • >> Right.

  • >> I guess I disagree with price being the second thing

  • because unless we have,

  • unless we have this technology that wows people--

  • >> Um hum.

  • >> we're not going to have a firm foundation

  • that people are going to buy from.

  • And I think people are going to be a lot more flexible saying,

  • well jeez, this runs three times faster, seven times faster than,

  • you know, a computer--

  • >> Well what's the highest we could go here?

  • >> Oh well [inaudible] technology jumps ahead in price.

  • >> Well we couldn't make this 5,000.

  • I think we're, they didn't say

  • if you made it go three times faster we'd pay 4,000.

  • They didn't say that.

  • >> No they said [inaudible].

  • >> That's right, they said if it's $3,000 it's a hot product.

  • >> But they were--

  • >> They said you're over 3,000, forget it.

  • >> Yeah.

  • >> That that's their magic number.

  • They've also told us that nobody else says they can do that.

  • And they think that's a really big number.

  • Now, whether it is or not in reality, who knows?

  • >> Um hum.

  • >> Whether it is or not in terms of their commitment--

  • >> Yes.

  • >> to push us, we've established that.

  • >> Um hum.

  • >> That's right.

  • >> If we really do believe that we have to ship this by summer

  • of '87, then how are we going to move that up?

  • I don't think price is going to change the schedule that much.

  • I think the real risk is

  • in the technology, it's not in the cost.

  • >> Yeah.

  • >> There's another option, it can go to the spring of '88.

  • >> Yeah, we could.

  • [laughs] But the problem is if we do that, then the--

  • >> Then [inaudible].

  • >> Well wait I think--

  • >> No that's not the worst thing.

  • The worst thing is, every, the world isn't standing still,

  • so by the spring of '88 well we want color.

  • The technology window sort of passes us by

  • and all the work we've done we throw

  • down the toilet and we start over.

  • And you know since we've proved we can't do something great

  • in 18 months, why should we believe we could do it,

  • you know, a year later?

  • >> I don't care what you're saying, reality--

  • distortion is reality distortion

  • and its has its motivational value and that's fine.

  • And I think it has a very strong point

  • and a very important value.

  • However when it comes to the, when it comes

  • to that date affecting the design of the product,

  • that's when we get into a rut.

  • Real, deep, shit because if we are unrealistic about this date,

  • we make design decisions that we have to then go over, reiterate,

  • throw out, start all over again.

  • >> Um hum.

  • >> And you told us yesterday we have a past

  • and unfortunately some of us can't get rid of that past.

  • And I remember a past where we put out a list this long

  • about the software that was going to ship with our product.

  • As you recall, the list was formidable

  • and we all thought we could do it in 12 months.

  • >> Um hum.

  • >> 15 packages, right?

  • >> So maybe what we ought to do though is say--

  • >> And--

  • >> see, I think we have to drive a stake in the ground somewhere

  • and I think if we miss this window then a whole series

  • of events come into play.

  • We can't sell enough units in '87 to pay

  • for our operating costs, okay?

  • You know word gets out that we're not doing that well.

  • A lot of the credibility starts to erode.

  • Da da da da da da da da da.

  • I don't know, you know, you could make

  • up all these fantasies.

  • We've got to have a stake in the ground.

  • >> Okay the problem I've got though is one,

  • will everybody believe that the stake is in fact in the ground?

  • And secondly, when software comes back

  • and says what they can do by summer or spring of '87,

  • will they be telling us the truth?

  • That's what I'm worried about.

  • >> [Inaudible]

  • >> One of the things--

  • >> Well, yeah.

  • >> Yeah my, that's exactly my point.

  • We've got a person here that said he can do a word processor

  • in six months that's taking three years.

  • >> Well George I can't change the world, you know?

  • What do you want me to do?

  • What's the solution?

  • >> I think the--

  • >> Yeah I mean I don't want to hear just

  • because we blew it last time we're going

  • to blow it this time.

  • >> But you see what we can learn is--

  • >> What I want is probably irrelevant.

  • I mean there are certain realities here,

  • both psychological and market, that are going to come into play

  • in my own personal judgment.

  • And I think this is a window that we've got.

  • We've been given it, and thank god we've been given it.

  • Nobody else has done this.

  • It's a wonderful window.

  • We have 18 months.

  • So I don't think we have a company if we don't do this.

  • No matter what I say or anybody else says,

  • that is my deepest belief.

  • If we don't do this, we will not be able to attract great people.

  • We will not be able to retain the ones,

  • some of the ones we have, and you know, it just won't be us.

  • >> And I find myself making lists of things we don't know

  • and then I remember that our company is 90 days old

  • [laughter] and I look back to all the things we do know.

  • And it's really phenomenal how far we've come in 90 days.

  • >> Boy, I'd forgotten how much work it actually is

  • to start a company.

  • It's a lot of work, and you've got to do everything.

  • You've got to come up with a name, you've got to come

  • up with a logo, I mean in addition

  • to designing the product.

  • You've got to figure out what to design.

  • You've got to figure out how you're going

  • to get it to the marketplace.

  • You've got to do a part number system.

  • You've got to go get bank accounts.

  • You've got to set up charts, general ledgers,

  • get a management information system,

  • get a little kitchen setup, get a coffee maker.

  • All this stuff.

  • >> Where are we going to?

  • >> Three months later the company returns to Pebble Beach

  • to hold its second retreat.

  • Progress has been made.

  • The first mockup of the new computer is

  • in the trunk Steve is carrying.

  • But the flush of excitement that animated the first days

  • of startup has given way to the pressure

  • of solving actual problems in time to meet critical deadlines.

  • The minute Steve begins to deliver his traditional sayings

  • of Chairman Jobs, it becomes clear that the mood

  • of this retreat will be different from the first.

  • >> Well my first saying is that the honeymoon is over.

  • [laughter] All of those wonderful things that we got

  • for just being, are now sort of just old news.

  • We are like every other startup.

  • We've been a company now for six months and yes you could say

  • that well we had a, you know, a lawsuit for four of those months

  • and we had this and that,

  • but the bottom line is the world doesn't really care.

  • What the world cares about is what we produce.

  • We've been a startup for six months.

  • We've been spending money like we've been a startup

  • for six months, and in some areas we've really produced

  • a lot.

  • We've got a lot to show for six months in some areas.

  • In other areas we don't have a lot to show for six months.

  • So I hope that throughout this retreat we tend to make sure

  • that our feet are on the ground and we realize that we're going

  • to be judged like every other startup from here on out

  • and that is by what our product is and how timely we bring it

  • to market, not on the fact that we're NeXT.

  • Not on the fact that we were sued.

  • Not on the fact that we're really good people

  • who had a lot to do with Macintosh.

  • That stuff's irrelevant at this point.

  • >> What we'd like to do is step back and minute form the point

  • of view of what's feasible.

  • Ignore that--

  • >> In December the group concluded they must ship product

  • in 18 months and agreed they could be ready.

  • Three months down the line this seems questionable

  • and there is frustration in the room.

  • >> It's totally useless as far as I can see to talk

  • about how you're going

  • to implement something unless you know what it is you want

  • to implement.

  • >> Yeah I agree--

  • >> So that's what I'm not getting.

  • I'm not getting it from marketing.

  • I'm not getting, you know, a clear idea

  • from anybody really what the features are

  • and what is this thing that we're talking about doing.

  • >> It ain't my job.

  • And I don't, if I was him it wouldn't be my job,

  • it'd be your job.

  • >> You know it isn't like this, it should be something new.

  • >> That's one--

  • >> But I mean I agree.

  • Let me back up--

  • >> So somebody's got to say here's what we can do

  • and we can make it happen and here's the level

  • of thing we can ship in 16 months.

  • And what I hear him saying is well anything more

  • than a [inaudible] forget it,

  • and boy that just makes me smoke.

  • It just seems like we're,

  • we're in this really difficult time where,

  • I don't know you know, I mean I sort

  • of think another month's going to go by

  • and there's still not going to be anything running

  • on the sun that's very interesting.

  • And another month will go by

  • and there still won't be anything running and,

  • it just seems like it's just,

  • and I guess maybe that's just the way it has to be.

  • >> I think we're going to have to--

  • >> So forget about [inaudible] fuck everything after shipment.

  • Just look to shipment, you know?

  • Marketing's out of line.

  • There's too many people in marketing.

  • >> Figure about $250 for health and life.

  • Before we cut the facilities budget, it's $1000.

  • >> That's, but that's not where it's going--

  • >> Money is also emerging as a problem.

  • In return for 70% of the stock, Jobs has committed $7 million

  • of his own money to carry the company to product launch.

  • But at the present burn rate,

  • it appears that that amount will be insufficient.

  • The unpleasant task of cutting expenses must be faced.

  • >> Rather than--

  • >> All this other stuff that we,

  • when in the final analysis we really don't care

  • about that much, is what's costing us the money.

  • >> There are not million dollar buckets out there to identify

  • that we need spending cuts.

  • There's lots of lots of hundred thousand dollar buckets

  • and it's going to take everybody

  • in this room doing a mindset change.

  • >> We just go out and we buy branny new Macintosh's

  • and branny new hard disks for everybody and it's not

  • at all cle- I don't think we're getting great deals

  • on that stuff.

  • We're not scrounging.

  • >> Well no one--

  • >> We're not--

  • >> Mac owners bringing their Mac from home.

  • >> Well we're not, I mean we used to be,

  • we used to find people to get us really good employee discounts

  • on things and everything else

  • and we've stopped scr- I mean we stopped--

  • >> Nickel and diming.

  • >> Nickel and diming for that stuff.

  • And it all adds up.

  • >> And I think the other thing is we signal deep pockets

  • out there.

  • >> Yeah.

  • >> Every vendor that comes to us, every person that comes

  • to us for recruiting, everything,

  • they expect these $20 $30 million behind us

  • and it isn't there and it's not going to be there.

  • >> So you can kick yourself in the butt but--

  • >> Now's the time to change.

  • >> I guess, now's the time to change.

  • And one of the things I don't see is, I don't see it

  • in myself, I don't see it in the re- in enough of the rest

  • of us is I don't see that startup hustle.

  • In other words, if we zoom out at the big picture,

  • it would be a shame to have lost the war

  • because we won a few battles.

  • And I sort of feel like I and some of the rest

  • of us are concentrating too much on the smaller battles.

  • >> We have to keep--

  • >> and we're not keeping the war in perspective

  • and the war is called survival.

  • The war is called not run out of money

  • until we get our product on the market.

  • >> Steve Jobs had built a major company by the time he was 28.

  • According to some, he had even created the personal

  • computer industry.

  • In any event, he was a wealthy man and was acknowledged

  • as a master entrepreneur.

  • What is it that drives him at age 31 to begin all over again?

  • Part of the answer seems to be his need to feel

  • that he is contributing to history.

  • >> I felt it the first time when I visited a school.

  • It was like had third and fourth graders classroom one time,

  • and they had a whole classroom full of Apple II's

  • and I spent a few hours there and I saw these third

  • and fourth graders growing up completely different than I grew

  • up because of this machine.

  • And what hit me about it was that here was this machine

  • that a very few people designed--

  • about four in the case of the Apple II--

  • and then they gave it to some people that didn't know how

  • to design it but they knew how to make it, to manufacture it,

  • and they could make a whole bunch of them.

  • And they gave it to some people that didn't know how

  • to design it or manufacture it

  • but they knew how to distribute it.

  • And they gave it to some people that didn't know how

  • to design it or manufacture it or distribute it

  • but they knew how to write software for it.

  • And gradually this sort of inverse pyramid grew,

  • and when it finally got into the hands of a lot of people,

  • it blossomed out of this tiny little seed.

  • And it seemed like an incredible amount of leverage.

  • And it all started with just an idea.

  • And here was this idea taken through all

  • of these stages resulting in a classroom full of kids growing

  • up with some insights and some fundamentally different

  • experiences which I thought might be very beneficial

  • to their lives because of this germ of an idea a few years ago.

  • And that's an incredible feeling to know that you had something

  • to do with it A, and B to know it can be done.

  • To know that you can plant something in the world

  • and it'll grow and change the world ever so slightly.

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  • >> Whether NeXT can be a viable business is something only time

  • will tell.

  • But Steve Jobs' passionate commitment

  • to his vision is clear.

  • And his certainty that it can be achieved

  • and is worth achieving is a conviction to be observed

  • in all successful entrepreneurs.

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