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  • Translator: Romina Pol Reviewer: Sebastian Betti

  • [This talk contains graphic content. Viewer discretion is advised.]

  • This is Nina Rodríguez's Facebook profile.

  • This person had three different profiles

  • and 890 kids between 8 and 13 years old among her friends list.

  • These are excerpts of a chat with one of those kids.

  • This is an exact copy of the chat.

  • It's part of the case file.

  • This kid started sending private photos

  • until his family realized what was going on.

  • The police report and subsequent investigation lead them to a house.

  • This was the girl's bedroom.

  • Nina Rodríguez was actually a 24-year-old man

  • that used to do this with lots of kids.

  • Micaela Ortega was 12 years old

  • when she went to meet her new Facebook friend,

  • also 12.

  • "Rochi de River," was her name.

  • She actually met Jonathan Luna, who was 26 years old.

  • When they finally caught him,

  • he confessed that he killed the girl because she refused to have sex with him.

  • He had four Facebook profiles

  • and 1,700 women on his contact list;

  • 90 percent of them were under 13 years old.

  • These are two different cases of "grooming":

  • an adult contacts a kid through the internet,

  • and through manipulation or lying, leads that kid into sexual territory --

  • from talking about sex

  • to sharing private photos,

  • recording the kid using a webcam

  • or arranging an in-person meeting.

  • This is grooming.

  • This is happening, and it's on the rise.

  • The question is: What are we going to do?

  • Because, in the meantime, kids are alone.

  • They finish dinner, go to their rooms,

  • close the door,

  • get on their computer, their cell phones,

  • and get into a bar,

  • into a club.

  • Think for one second about what I've just said:

  • they're in a place full of strangers

  • in an uninhibited environment.

  • The internet broke physical boundaries.

  • When we're alone in our bedroom and we go online,

  • we're not really alone.

  • There are at least two reasons why we're not taking care of this,

  • or at least not in the right way.

  • First, we're sure that everything that happens online is "virtual."

  • In fact, we call it "the virtual world."

  • If you look it up in the dictionary,

  • something virtual is something that seems to exist

  • but is not real.

  • And we use that word to talk about the internet:

  • something not real.

  • And that's the problem with grooming.

  • It is real.

  • Degenerate, perverted adults use the internet to abuse boys and girls

  • and take advantage of, among other things,

  • the fact that the kids and their parents think that what happens online

  • doesn't actually happen.

  • Several years ago, some colleagues and I founded an NGO

  • called "Argentina Cibersegura,"

  • dedicated to raising awareness about online safety.

  • In 2013, we attended meetings at the House of Legislature

  • to discuss a law about grooming.

  • I remember that a lot of people thought

  • that grooming was strictly a precursor

  • to arranging an in-person meeting with a kid to have sex with them.

  • But they didn't think about what happened to the kids who were exposed

  • by talking about sex with an adult without knowing it,

  • or who shared intimate photos thinking only another kid would see them,

  • or even worse,

  • who had exposed themselves using their web cam.

  • Nobody considered that rape.

  • I'm sure lots of you find it odd to think one person can abuse another

  • without physical contact.

  • We're programmed to think that way.

  • I know, because I used to think that way.

  • I was just an IT security guy

  • until this happened to me.

  • At the end of 2011,

  • in a little town in Buenos Aires Province,

  • I heard about a case for the first time.

  • After giving a talk,

  • I met the parents of an 11-year-old girl who had been a victim of grooming.

  • A man had manipulated her into masturbating in front of her web cam,

  • and recorded it.

  • And the video was on several websites.

  • That day, her parents asked us, in tears,

  • to tell them the magic formula

  • for how to delete those videos from the internet.

  • It broke my heart and changed me forever

  • to be their last disappointment, telling them it was too late:

  • once content is online,

  • we've already lost control.

  • Since that day, I think about that girl

  • waking up in the morning, having breakfast with her family,

  • who had seen the video,

  • and then walking to school, meeting people that had seen her naked,

  • arriving to school, playing with her friends, who had also seen her.

  • That was her life.

  • Exposed.

  • Of course, nobody raped her body.

  • But hadn't her sexuality been abused?

  • We clearly use different standards to measure physical and digital things.

  • And we get angry at social networks

  • because being angry with ourselves is more painful and more true.

  • And this brings us to the second reason why

  • we aren't paying proper attention to this issue.

  • We're convinced that kids don't need our help,

  • that they "know everything" about technology.

  • When I was a kid,

  • at one point, my parents started letting me walk to school alone.

  • After years of taking me by the hand and walking me to school,

  • one day they sat me down,

  • gave me the house keys

  • and said, "Be very careful with these; don't give them to anyone,

  • take the route we showed you, be at home at the time we said,

  • cross at the corner, and look both ways before you cross,

  • and no matter what, don't talk to strangers."

  • I knew everything about walking,

  • and yet, there was a responsible adult there taking care of me.

  • Knowing how to do something is one thing,

  • knowing how to take care of yourself is another.

  • Imagine this situation:

  • I'm 10 or 11 years old, I wake up in the morning,

  • my parents toss me the keys and say,

  • "Seba, now you can walk to school alone."

  • And when I come back late,

  • they say, "No, you need to be home at the time we said."

  • And two weeks later,

  • when it comes up, they say, "You know what?

  • You have to cross at the corner, and look both ways before crossing."

  • And two years later, they say,

  • "And also, don't talk to strangers."

  • It sounds absurd, right?

  • We have the same absurd behavior in relation to technology.

  • We give kids total access

  • and we see if one day, sooner or later,

  • they learn how to take care of themselves.

  • Knowing how to do something is one thing,

  • knowing how to take care of yourself is another.

  • Along those same lines, when we talk to parents,

  • they often say they don't care about technology and social networks.

  • I always rejoin that by asking if they care about their kids.

  • As adults, being interested or not in technology

  • is the same as being interested or not in our kids.

  • The internet is part of their lives.

  • Technology forces us to rethink the relationship between adults and kids.

  • Education was always based on two main concepts:

  • experience and knowledge.

  • How do we teach our kids to be safe online when we don't have either?

  • Nowadays, we adults have to guide our children

  • through what is often for us unfamiliar territory --

  • territory much more inviting for them.

  • It's impossible to find an answer

  • without doing new things -- things that make us uncomfortable,

  • things we're not used to.

  • A lot of you may think it's easy for me,

  • because I'm relatively young.

  • And it used to be that way.

  • Used to.

  • Until last year,

  • when I felt the weight of my age on my shoulders

  • the first time I opened Snapchat.

  • (Laughter)

  • (Applause)

  • I didn't understand a thing!

  • I found it unnecessary,

  • useless, hard to understand;

  • it looked like a camera!

  • It didn't have menu options!

  • It was the first time I felt the gap

  • that sometimes exists between kids and adults.

  • But it was also an opportunity to do the right thing,

  • to leave my comfort zone, to force myself.

  • I never thought I'd ever use Snapchat,

  • but then I asked my teenage cousin to show me how to use it.

  • I also asked why she used it.

  • What was fun about it?

  • We had a really nice talk.

  • She showed me her Snapchat, she told me things,

  • we got closer, we laughed.

  • Today, I use it.

  • (Laughter)

  • I don't know if I do it right,

  • but the most important thing is that I know it and I understand it.

  • The key was to overcome the initial shock

  • and do something new.

  • Something new.

  • Today, we have the chance to create new conversations.

  • What's the last app you downloaded?

  • Which social network do you use to contact your friends?

  • What kind of information do you share?

  • Have you ever been approached by strangers?

  • Could we have these conversations between kids and adults?

  • We have to force ourselves to do it. All of us.

  • Today, lots of kids are listening to us.

  • Sometimes when we go to schools to give our talks,

  • or through social networks,

  • kids ask or tell us things

  • they haven't told their parents or their teachers.

  • They tell us -- they don't even know us.

  • Those kids need to know

  • what the risks of being online are,

  • how to take care of themselves,

  • but also that, fundamentally, as with almost everything else,

  • kids can learn this from any adult.

  • Online safety needs to be a conversation topic

  • in every house and every classroom in the country.

  • We did a survey this year that showed that 15 percent of schools said

  • they knew of cases of grooming in their school.

  • And this number is growing.

  • Technology changed every aspect of our life,

  • including the risks we face

  • and how we take care of ourselves.

  • Grooming shows us this in the most painful way:

  • by involving our kids.

  • Are we going to do something to avoid this?

  • The solution starts with something as easy as:

  • talking about it.

  • Thank you.

  • (Applause)

Translator: Romina Pol Reviewer: Sebastian Betti

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