Placeholder Image

字幕表 動画を再生する

  • Gayle King: Have a seat, Serena Williams,

  • or should we say, have a seat, mom.

  • (Cheers)

  • So no doubt, you guys are like me.

  • You saw the release of Serena

  • in that great yellow bathing suit last week

  • and when I saw it, all I could think of was,

  • "Gosh, why couldn't she have waited til we sat onstage for TED?"

  • I was very selfish, I know.

  • So I asked you about that picture,

  • and you said nobody was supposed to see that picture.

  • What do you mean?

  • Serena Williams: Well, actually, it was an accident.

  • I was on vacation, just taking some time for myself,

  • and I have this thing where I've been checking my status

  • and taking pictures every week to see how far along I'm going --

  • GK: And sharing it with friends, maybe?

  • SW: No, actually I have just been saving it,

  • and I didn't really tell a lot of people,

  • to be quite honest,

  • and I'd been saving it,

  • and you know how social media is, you press the wrong button and --

  • (Laughter)

  • GK: And there it was.

  • SW: So 30 minutes later -- my phone doesn't ring that much --

  • and 30 minutes later, I missed like four calls,

  • and I'm like, that's weird,

  • and then I picked it up and I was like, oh no.

  • But it was a good moment.

  • I was gonna wait literally just five or six more days -- that's OK.

  • GK: I know, because it was weird, Serena, because it only said 20 weeks,

  • so it's not like there was a whole lot of information on it.

  • SW: Exactly, so that's what I've been doing all this time.

  • I've been just tracking it.

  • 18, 19 -- every week I'd just take a picture and save it,

  • and I've been so good about it,

  • and this was the one time that I slipped.

  • GK: There you go. Well, congratulations.

  • SW: Yes, thank you.

  • GK: It really is OK. When you heard the news,

  • were you excited? Were you afraid? Were you worried?

  • That you were pregnant, I mean.

  • SW: So I heard it two days before the beginning of the Australian Open,

  • which is one of the biggest grand slams.

  • GK: You found out two days before?

  • SW: Yeah, so it was two days before, and I knew.

  • I was nervous.

  • I wasn't quite sure what to think,

  • but I just knew that at that moment

  • it was really important for me to just focus right there

  • at the Australian Open,

  • and I was definitely not sure what to do.

  • I was like, can I play?

  • I know it's very dangerous, maybe, sometimes in the first 12 weeks or so,

  • so I had a lot of questions.

  • GK: But not only did you play, Ms. Williams, you won.

  • (Cheers)

  • SW: Yeah.

  • May I just say, 23 grand slams to you.

  • SW: Thank you.

  • (Applause)

  • GK: While pregnant!

  • SW: Well, I was looking for another handicap, so ... no.

  • GK: Did you play differently that game, knowing you were pregnant?

  • SW: I did. It wasn't very easy.

  • You hear all these stories about people when they're pregnant,

  • they get sick and they get tired.

  • GK: Have you had morning sickness?

  • SW: No, I've been so fortunate and so I haven't.

  • But they get really tired and they get really stressed out,

  • and I had to really take all that energy,

  • put it in a paper bag, so to say,

  • and throw it away,

  • because I really felt like I didn't have time

  • to deal with any extra emotions, any extra anything,

  • because pregnant or not, no one knew,

  • and I was supposed to win that tournament

  • as I am every tournament that I show up.

  • I am expected to win,

  • and if I don't win, it's actually much bigger news.

  • GK: Yeah, when you don't win, that's a big story.

  • SW: Yes, so for me, I had to really take anything negative

  • and any emotions that I was feeling at that point

  • and kind of just bottle them up

  • and really figure out what the next step for me to do was.

  • GK: You have a lot of support. You have a lot of love.

  • Even when I was coming here, people stopped me at the airport.

  • I was saying to the flight attendant, the pilot, "Guess where I'm going?"

  • They said, "Oh my God, we're so glad she's pregnant."

  • But then you always have these cranky Yankees.

  • On the way over here, somebody was telling me about Ilie Nastase,

  • who said some very unkind, inappropriate, dare I say racial things.

  • You have responded to him.

  • I'm not even going to dignify what he said,

  • but you responded. Why did you respond?

  • SW: Well, I think there are very inappropriate comments,

  • and not only that, I've been really supportive of my peers

  • and the people that I've worked with.

  • I've been a pro for almost 20 years,

  • and so for me, it's really important to hold women up,

  • and it's something that these young women,

  • they'll come to the locker room, they'll want to take pictures with me,

  • and for me, it's just like,

  • I want to be able to be a good leader and a good example for them.

  • So not only --

  • (Applause)

  • Not only did he have rude things to say about me and my peers,

  • I felt it was important for us to stand up for each other

  • and to stand up for myself.

  • And at that point it was really important for me to say,

  • like, I'm not afraid, I'm not going anywhere,

  • but this is inappropriate,

  • and there's time and there's a place for everything.

  • And that really wasn't the time and the place.

  • GK: We cut the part where you said you're not going anywhere,

  • because you'll be 36 in September. Baby's coming, 36.

  • And your coach said age is always important,

  • but in tennis it's very important,

  • but he has no doubt that you're coming back.

  • Have you thought, am I coming back?

  • Will I take some time off?

  • I know the women on the tour are saying,

  • "How long does it take to have a baby? Two years will she be gone?"

  • What are you thinking?

  • SW: Well, I'm always trying to defy the odds, you know,

  • so for me everything is really mental.

  • I definitely plan on coming back. I'm not done yet.

  • I'm really inspired by my sister.

  • She's a year older than me, and that's something that --

  • if she's still playing, I know I can play.

  • (Laughter)

  • And there's so many -- Roger Federer, he's a little bit older than me

  • and he's still winning everything, so I'm like, I know I can do that too.

  • So that's been so inspiring to me, especially recently,

  • and I know that it's something I want to do.

  • And my story is definitely not over yet.

  • I was talking to my coach about it,

  • and we were talking about how this is just a new part of my life,

  • and my baby's going to be in the stands

  • and hopefully cheering for me, not crying too much.

  • GK: No, you wrote a beautiful letter to your baby yesterday

  • that you said -- from the oldest mommy to the youngest one,

  • to the oldest, to the youngest, I can't wait for you to get here.

  • A lot of people feel that.

  • I saw you about a year ago, because I think about your life, Serena.

  • You've had three life-changing things in a six-month time:

  • pregnant, huge win, fell in love.

  • And when I saw you last year,

  • I was saying, "How's your love life? Da da da."

  • You said, "I met a guy. He's a nerdy, kinda geeky guy.

  • You won't know who he is."

  • I said, "What's his name?"

  • SW: I remember talking to you about that, yes.

  • GK: And you said, "Alexis Ohanian." I said, "I know him!" He's awesome.

  • But I would never put you with a nerdy geek,

  • and you said, you neither.

  • SW: I'm going to be honest with you, I didn't either,

  • but it's been the best thing for me.

  • GK: The best thing why?

  • Does that look like a nerdy geek?

  • Look at the shirt.

  • (Laughter)

  • No, he's a very nice guy.

  • SW: You can tell he's into technology.

  • GK: He's a very, very nice guy.

  • I like him very much.

  • So how did he succeed when others have failed?

  • How was he the one that you knew, this is the one for me?

  • SW: Well, I'm not going to say that,

  • but ...

  • (Laughter)

  • GK: Say it, Serena, say it!

  • SW: Well ...

  • (Laughter)

  • Yes.

  • (Applause)

  • GK: But you know what I mean.

  • SW: He is very loving and he's very kind, and my mom says he's very considerate,

  • and when she said that to me,

  • I was like, you know, he really is,

  • and it's the little things that really make a huge difference in life.

  • GK: Like?

  • SW: Something simple.

  • My fashion company, we have a show every year,

  • so in our show last year, I was running around like crazy,

  • because I do everything for the show,

  • and everything for it,

  • so I was running around like crazy,

  • and he, it was a simple gesture of this shirt that he had,

  • and he just wanted to make sure that I had the same one,

  • and it was -- it's a weird story.

  • It was better in person, I promise.

  • GK: Was it a wonderful proposal?

  • Or was it a Beyoncé song?

  • "If you like it then you ought to put a ring on it"?

  • Were you feeling pressure to get married?

  • Did you know it was coming?

  • SW: Yeah, I actually never felt pressure to get married

  • and I can't say I'm the marrying type of person.

  • I really love my life.

  • I love my freedom.

  • I heard that kind of changes.

  • But I love everything that I do,

  • and I love my career,

  • and I always felt like I didn't want anything to interfere with that.

  • I've actually been so career-oriented

  • and in fact, when he proposed,

  • I was almost angry.

  • Not almost. I was angry,

  • because it was right in the middle of my training season,

  • and I said, "I gotta win the Australian Open.

  • I can't fly to Rome."

  • Because he wanted to take me to Rome,

  • and I said, "I can't. I gotta win."

  • But that's how focused I was.

  • GK: This is a girl that says, "No, I can't go to Rome." OK.

  • SW: But I was really focused on reaching my goals

  • and I knew at that point there was one player that I wanted to pass.

  • I wanted to pass Steffi Graf's record,

  • and that really meant a lot to me,

  • and when I put my mind to something,

  • I really am determined to reach it

  • no matter what.

  • GK: You know, you said that for you --

  • I've heard you say that winning is addictive to you.

  • SW: It is.

  • GK: What do you mean?

  • SW: I feel like winning for me is superaddictive.

  • I feel like once you experience it,

  • you always want to get that feeling again,

  • and when I won my first championship, I was only 17 years old,

  • but I never forgot that feeling,

  • and I feel like every time I win one,

  • I want to reach that feeling of your first championship.

  • There's really no feeling in the world like that.

  • And it's like, all these years of training

  • and being a little kid and playing,

  • and then winning is a wonderful experience.

  • So for me I've always felt like I loved that feeling,

  • and obviously I don't like the feeling of losing. I feel like --

  • GK: No, in fact, people close to you say you're a very bad loser.

  • SW: I'm not the best loser.

  • GK: That you're very, very, very bad.

  • Listen, no athlete, no champion likes to lose.

  • I get that.

  • But they say when it comes to losing, you are very, very, very bad at it.

  • (Laughter)

  • SW: I'm number one at losing too, so you know, that's all I can say.

  • (Laughter)

  • (Applause)

  • GK: I'm always curious about the dynamic between you and Venus,

  • because everybody that knows you and has followed the story

  • knows that you two are very close,

  • and you always bring your A game in whatever you do,

  • but I often wonder, when you're playing her,

  • do you bring your A- game because you want to do something for her

  • or do you bring your A++ game because you want to crush her.

  • Is it harder for you playing her or easier?

  • SW: Well, playing Venus is like playing myself,

  • because we grew up playing each other, we grew up practicing together.

  • And it was something that has been difficult,

  • because she's my toughest opponent.

  • She's tall, she's fast,

  • she hits hard like me, she serves like me.

  • It's really like playing a wall.

  • GK: She knows you.

  • SW: She knows where I'm hitting the ball before I hit it,

  • so it's something that is not very easy,

  • but it's really about, when I go out there,

  • I really have to shut down my mind and I have to say to myself,

  • "You know what?

  • I'm just playing a great player, but today I have to be better.

  • I don't care who it is, if it's my sister or it's my friend,

  • today is the day I have to show up and I have to be better

  • and I have to want it more than anyone else at this moment

  • anywhere on this world."

  • GK: So never on the court do you fall back for Venus?

  • Because, you know, it was always Venus and Serena.

  • SW: Yes.

  • GK: And now baby sister has surpassed older sister.

  • Do you feel guilt about that?

  • Do you feel joy in that?

  • Is that a difficult position for you?

  • SW: I don't feel anything in there.

  • In my life, it still and forever is always going to be Venus and Serena.

  • She's really love of my life, she's my best friend,

  • she's my soul mate.

  • I mean --

  • There's pictures of her pushing me,

  • really low-quality pictures or else I would have shared them,

  • of her pushing me in a stroller on a tennis court,

  • and she always took care of me.

  • I used to spend all of my allowance money on the ice cream truck and stuff,

  • and she would take her money and give it to me at school

  • and make sure I had something to eat and she would go without,

  • and that's the kind of person she actually is

  • since I've always known her.

  • So we always have this incredible respect for each other

  • and this incredible love,

  • and I think it's important for people to realize you can be successful

  • but you can still have a wonderful relationship.

  • On the court we are mortal enemies,

  • but the second we shake hands, we are best friends again.

  • And if I lose, it might be a day later for me,

  • but for Venus --

  • (Laughter)

  • GK: There's never a time on the court where you hit the ball

  • and say, "That's for seventh grade when you did the blah blah blah"?

  • You never have any moment like that?

  • SW: I feel like she should have those moments,

  • because she's never done anything bad to me,

  • but I'm the youngest. I'm the younger sister.

  • GK: Serena, she's never done anything bad to you? Really?

  • I have three sisters. I can think of some stuff I've done bad.

  • SW: Unless she brainwashed me to forget them.

  • GK: No, but the love you have for her I know is very pure. I know that.

  • SW: Yes. GK: I know that.

  • SW: We were always brought up to be superclose,

  • and we are incredibly close.

  • Not only her.

  • I have three other sisters as well, and we were always so close.

  • GK: So before a big match, the two of you don't get together

  • and say, look, we're going to go out there and -- there's nothing?

  • SW: Well, it's funny. Before the Australian Open,

  • we were in the locker room together,

  • and I always pick on her, so I pulled out my camera while she was changing.

  • I started taking pictures of her, which is totally inappropriate,

  • but she was so mad at me.

  • She's like, "Serena, stop!" And I was just laughing at her.

  • But that's the kind of relationship that we have, and like I said,

  • the second we step on the court,

  • it was like, we were definitely mortal enemies,

  • but the second we stepped off, and moments before, we're just --

  • It is what it is, because at the end of the day,

  • she'll always be my sister.

  • I'm not going to play Australia in --

  • Well, who knows, I've been playing forever,

  • but I don't think I'll be playing in 50 years, say?

  • Let's be safe and say 50 years.

  • GK: I don't know, Serena. There's never been anybody like you.

  • When you think about it, never been anybody

  • who has intersected gender and race the way you have,

  • the dominance that you have and the scrutiny that you have.

  • And when you were growing up, did you say, "I want to be like that"?

  • Because now little girls are looking at you

  • saying, "I want to be like that."

  • Who was the "I want to be like that" for you?

  • SW: Well, it's interesting, and I'm glad you brought that up.

  • For me, when I grew up, I always wanted to be the best,

  • and I said, if you want to be the best, you've got to emulate the best.

  • So when I started to go on tour when I was really young,

  • I would see Steffi Graf, I would see Monica Seles,

  • and I would even see Pete Sampras,

  • and I would see what they did,

  • and I noticed that Steffi and Monica

  • didn't really talk to a lot of the other players,

  • and they kind of were on their own,

  • and they were just so focused

  • and I would see Pete Sampras, the technique that he did,

  • and I was like, "I want to do that."

  • So I did that, and I felt that to be the best,

  • and if you want to be the best,

  • you have to hang around people

  • and you have to look at people that are the best,

  • because you're not going to be the best

  • if you're looking at someone that's not at the top level.

  • GK: People say nobody works as hard as you.

  • SW: I'm a very hard worker. GK: That's what I heard.

  • SW: People say, "Oh, she's talented, she's athletic."

  • Actually, I wasn't. I was really small for my age.

  • I grew up when I got older,

  • and I had to work really hard,

  • and I think one of the reasons why I fight so hard and I work so hard

  • is because I was really, really, really small.

  • GK: Yeah.

  • You are no longer small.

  • SW: No, I'm fully grown now.

  • But I was small when I was really young for whatever reason.

  • I think Venus maybe ate all the Wheaties.

  • GK: You know, the other thing people talk about is your body.

  • Your body brings men and women to their knees.

  • And I mean in a good way.

  • A lot has been made about your body.

  • It's a work of art, it's masculine, it's glorious,

  • there's never been anything like it.

  • Did you have body issues when you were growing up?

  • Have you always been comfortable with your body?

  • SW: It's interesting, because when you're a teenage female

  • growing up in the public eye,

  • it is a lot of scrutiny that you face,

  • and as any female that's a teenager,

  • I definitely was not comfortable in my body.

  • I didn't like it.

  • I didn't understand why I had muscles.

  • And I stopped lifting weights.

  • I was like, I'm not going to do this.

  • But then after I won the US Open,

  • I realized that my body helped me reach goals that I wanted to reach,

  • and I wanted to be happy with it,

  • and I was so appreciative of it.

  • I'm always healthy.

  • I'm really fortunate and superblessed,

  • and I felt like not only am I happy with my body,

  • but I want other people and other young girls

  • that have experienced what I've experienced

  • to be happy with themselves.

  • So whatever people say --

  • masculine, whatever, too much, too little --

  • I'm OK with it as long as I love myself.

  • (Applause)

  • GK: I know you learn a lot from winning,

  • but what have you learned from losing?

  • SW: I hate to lose, but I think losing has brought me here today.

  • The only reason I am who I am is because of my losses,

  • and some of them are extremely painful,

  • but I wouldn't take any of them away,

  • because every time I lose,

  • it takes a really long time for me to lose again

  • because I learn so much from it.

  • And I encourage everyone that I talk to --

  • I'm like, listen, if you lose or if something happens --

  • not in sports -- in business or in school --

  • learn from it.

  • Don't live in the past, live in the present,

  • and don't make the same mistakes in the future.

  • That's something that I always try to live by.

  • GK: Now you're planning a wedding

  • and I want to know, is it a destination wedding

  • in the Catskills or Poconos or are you going to do it in Florida?

  • What are you thinking?

  • Big or small?

  • SW: We're thinking medium size. We don't want to do too big,

  • but then we're like, OK, we can't say no to this person, this person.

  • So we're thinking medium size and we're just thinking --

  • My personality is a lot of fun. Hopefully you can see that today.

  • I'm not too serious.

  • GK: And you like to dance.

  • And the next chapter for Serena Williams is what?

  • SW: Oh, next for me.

  • Obviously I'm going to have a baby

  • and I'm going to stay fit and kind of come back and play tennis

  • and keep working on my fashion line.

  • That'll be really fun.

  • GK: Do you know if it's a boy or girl?

  • SW: I don't. I have a feeling of one or the other.

  • It's a 50-50 chance, but I have a feeling.

  • GK: Gayle is a unisex name.

  • Whatever you and Alexis decide, we are cheering you on!

  • SW: Thank you for that. GK: You're welcome.

  • We are cheering you on, Serena Williams. SW: Thank you so much.

  • Thank you guys.

  • (Applause)

Gayle King: Have a seat, Serena Williams,

字幕と単語

ワンタップで英和辞典検索 単語をクリックすると、意味が表示されます

A2 初級

TED】セレーナ・ウィリアムズとゲイル・キング。テニスと愛と母性について (テニスと愛と母性について|セレーナ・ウイリアムズとゲイル・キング) (【TED】Serena Williams and Gayle King: On tennis, love and motherhood (On tennis, love and motherhood | Serena Williams and Gayle King))

  • 28 3
    Zenn に公開 2021 年 01 月 14 日
動画の中の単語