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  • Translator: Queenie Lee Reviewer: Peter van de Ven

  • To skip the small talk,

  • I'm going to start off by asking you guys three questions.

  • So the first question is:

  • are any of you going through any sort of personal struggle right now?

  • Yeah, okay.

  • The second question is:

  • do you feel that you have someone in your life

  • with whom to share that struggle?

  • Yes, all right.

  • The third question is:

  • do any of you guys watch Mad Men?

  • So I know I'm way behind on my seasons -

  • I just started getting into Netflix -

  • and the other night while watching season number two, episode 12 of Mad Men,

  • I heard Anna Draper say this to a very lost Donald Draper.

  • She said, "The only thing keeping you from being happy

  • is the belief that you are alone."

  • This quote really resonated with me

  • because that's exactly how I felt

  • when I left sunny Southern California, three years ago,

  • to start my freshman year of college at Northwestern University.

  • So this is a picture of me,

  • my freshman year of college, first week at school.

  • That's me in the top left corner.

  • And another question for you guys.

  • Have you ever been out at a party, or event, or out with your friends,

  • and someone says, "Let's take a picture,"

  • even though you weren't totally in the mood to take a picture,

  • you weren't feeling that great but still smiled in the picture,

  • and it ended up on Facebook and everyone saw it,

  • and you're like, "That was me at that event."

  • So that's kind of what happened at this picture.

  • Also this picture, when I was out at a party that same week.

  • So these pictures, they made it to Facebook,

  • I was smiling in them, all my friends saw them.

  • "Looks like you're having a great time in college."

  • That's not really how I felt on the inside.

  • This is a picture of my diary,

  • that I started writing in that same first week of college.

  • I actually have it right here with me,

  • and I am going to read you my very first diary entry.

  • September 27, 2012.

  • I wish I could start out my first entry

  • with an ecstatic quote about life or how I love college so much,

  • but since this is a personal journal,

  • I can be honest and say

  • I've never remembered feeling more lost in my entire life.

  • I only three quarters know that everything will work out and I'll be OK.

  • I miss home and being surrounded by people who know me so well

  • and love me for all that I am.

  • And so that whole first year of college, I was plagued by this one question:

  • who am I?

  • I really had felt that I had lost my identity

  • in leaving my home in California, leaving my friends behind

  • to start college for the first time.

  • And it was until the end of my freshman year

  • when things were a lot better,

  • that I had to learn what Donald Draper did in season two, episode 12 of Mad Men,

  • that the only thing that had been keeping me from being happy

  • was the belief that I was alone,

  • and feeling that way in my first week of college.

  • I actually put out this query over Facebook,

  • one the last few weeks of freshman year.

  • I said, "Hi, everyone. I'm doing my final journalism project

  • on people struggling to adjust to college the first year.

  • If anyone is willing to talk to me about it,

  • please let me know and message me."

  • And I was shocked when within just a couple of hours,

  • I got messages from people all over campus.

  • A lot of them expressing their pain, their first year of college,

  • and I thought,

  • "Wow, if only I was able to talk to these people

  • that first week of school when I was also feeling lost and alone."

  • Actually one of those people,

  • she was someone I had met at one of those parties in the beginning

  • and we had just met and been surface level friends,

  • and that last week of school I interviewed her,

  • and we ended up sitting in the student lounge together

  • and sharing each other's experiences

  • and talking about how lonely we had felt that entire year,

  • and we were both, like,

  • "Wow, if only we had said this to each other when we first met,

  • we wouldn't have felt so lonely."

  • So she ended up becoming one of my best friends in college.

  • So that was the end of freshman year.

  • Then sophomore year things got so much better.

  • I ended up joining a sorority; I got super involved with that.

  • I was really involved with my journalism projects.

  • I co-founded a club called MIXED,

  • which is the Mixed Race Student Coalition,

  • and the whole idea was it didn't matter where you came from,

  • or what was your background, we all could share our mixed experiences.

  • I would be going out to all these parties, I had a lot of friends at that point,

  • but there would still be nights

  • where I'd come home from an evening out with my friends,

  • and I'd still feel terribly empty inside and I couldn't understand it;

  • I had just been with all these people.

  • I still felt pretty lonely.

  • You know, one of those nights,

  • I was Skyping with one of my friends from far away,

  • and we were having this very deep philosophical conversation about life,

  • and I said, "Wow, I wish all conversations could be like this.

  • This is awesome."

  • And he was, like, "Yes, screw small talk."

  • And I was, like, "Yeah, screw small talk. Why do we even make small talk?"

  • I thought, what if, when talking to our friends, co-workers,

  • or even complete strangers,

  • we could always just skip the small talk,

  • and instead talk about the things that really mattered in life

  • or things that you both actually really cared about

  • and wanted to talk about?

  • So I was, like, wait, screw small talk, skip the small talk.

  • We should make "Big Talk,"

  • and I thought the name was kind of cute,

  • and I didn't really know what to do with it at the time,

  • but I kind of just stuck it in my back pocket

  • and just thought about it for a bit.

  • And so that was the end of my sophomore year of college.

  • And then the following summer,

  • I was getting very involved in my journalism program,

  • and I had the opportunity to do some documentary projects abroad,

  • and I spent three weeks in Ecuador

  • filming a documentary about education reform.

  • Those three weeks were the best three weeks of my life.

  • We were travelling throughout the entire country,

  • interviewing strangers, everyone we encountered,

  • about education in the country,

  • and it didn't matter if we were gliding down the Amazon River,

  • or climbing the Andes Mountains,

  • or salsa dancing through the colonial streets of Cuenca,

  • everywhere we went, we were being open to new people, new experiences

  • and every day was a new adventure.

  • And the picture on the top right

  • was actually taken

  • when one day we had run into these professors at this university,

  • and they invited us into their villa overlooking the Andes Mountains.

  • We ended up drinking wine with them all evening and salsa dancing.

  • And I was, like,

  • "Wow, why didn't this ever happen with my college professors back home?"

  • There's something different in the way I'm approaching life when I'm travelling,

  • the way I'm more open to people,

  • and it invites these kind of magical experiences,

  • and towards the end of my trip,

  • I actually started getting really scared to go back home,

  • to my everyday life.

  • I didn't want to lose this magic - this magic of being abroad,

  • and I thought, you know,

  • how can I make everyday life feel this meaningful

  • and look this beautiful?

  • I had one more opportunity to travel that summer.

  • I went to Germany to do a documentary about the Holocaust,

  • and on one of my last days in Germany, I visited the Berlin Wall

  • and I came upon this question written on the Berlin Wall.

  • It said, "What do you want to do before you die?"

  • And this question really hit me

  • because I just finished the sophomore year,

  • going through my mid-college life crisis,

  • questioning: What's my purpose? Why am I studying journalism?

  • What do I really want to do with my life?

  • Everyone else is asking you that question too, constantly,

  • when you come home for summer break.

  • So I thought about it:

  • what do I really want to do?

  • I knew in part it was about building empathy between strangers,

  • as I'd kind of done through MIXED

  • and through my travelling documentary projects,

  • and I also knew I'd always wanted to start a YouTube channel.

  • So that summer I came home,

  • I had five weeks before starting my junior year of college.

  • And I kind of took this question,

  • "What do you want to do before you die?"

  • and I took that name that inspired me months earlier, Big Talk,

  • and I took the magic I had felt

  • from travelling and approaching strangers and hearing their life stories

  • and I made this video.

  • I'm going to play the first half of it for you, for the sake of time.

  • (Video) Kalina Silverman: Hi, I'm Kalina,

  • and this is the beginning of an experiment called "Big Talk."

  • I wanted to be able to go out, meet new people,

  • and instead of just make small talk,

  • actually have deeper meaningful conversations with them.

  • [So I started off by approaching strangers]

  • Kalina.

  • [inaudible]

  • [Then to skip the small talk, I asked them ... ]

  • [What do you want to do before you die?]

  • What I want to do before I die?

  • Oh, man, Jeez.

  • That's a good question.

  • Or what do I want to do when I grow up?

  • That's a hard one.

  • That's a tough one.

  • Is it just one thing?

  • (Laughter)

  • I want to learn how to scuba dive.

  • Travel the Appalachian Trail.

  • Go to the police and make a confession?

  • I'd like to be a herpetologist;

  • somebody who studies reptiles and amphibians.

  • See my kids graduated from college.

  • Make every moment count.

  • Live without any alcohol and drugs;

  • probably be close to that guy and just be happy, day by day.

  • Being able to reconcile with my father and say I love you too.

  • I want to have a wife and kids.

  • I wrote, like, an essay on it when I was in fifth grade.

  • I remember all my friends made fun of me

  • because everyone was, like, I want to be ...

  • I want to be a sports star, or movie star.

  • I just want to have a wife and kids.

  • [What if you found out you were going to die tomorrow?]

  • Just happy happy

  • because I really live - before I did very bad,

  • I was homeless for 13 years.

  • Maybe call all of my friends.

  • I'd probably text all my friends.

  • I would take a road trip to go see someone, today.

  • I can't say.

  • I would tell them that I love them.

  • KS: Do they know you love them? - I think so.

  • - What would I want to do today? KS: Yeah.

  • Tomorrow? I'm going to die tomorrow?

  • Be with my family.

  • If I knew I was going to die, I'd get on the airplane to visit my son.

  • You know, it's literally,

  • I'd say the most significant relationship that I have -

  • being 18 and having a baby.

  • If I were dying, I'd love to have Charlie on my bed.

  • Ray was dying,

  • he had this little fluffy dog coddled right next to him

  • and would not - oh, that's fascinating, it's a dog bark.

  • I can't die.

  • My mom said that the day before she died,

  • that if she were to die tomorrow,

  • she would have lived the fullest life ever,

  • and then she died unexpectedly the next day.

  • So this is kind of a ...

  • personal ...

  • question.

  • So, family has always been of the most importance to me.

  • [Skipping the small talk means getting the chance

  • to learn so much more about someone's life story]

  • (On Stage) KS: That's half the video.

  • And in the rest of video, just through these two questions,

  • I was able to learn so much more about those strangers' life stories.

  • In making that video, I had kind of re-found the magic

  • that I was scared of losing from travelling,

  • and from my experiences interviewing people

  • and just going out of my way to talk to people.

  • So I posted that video to my Facebook,

  • and I was shocked when a girl who is an alum of my university

  • who works with the Huffington Post

  • said: "I saw your video, and I want to write an article about it."

  • I got so excited and that's what she did.

  • And after that, it sort of went viral, and it got featured on other sites,

  • like USA Today, and Elite Daily, and a few other different blogs.

  • And because the video went viral,

  • I started getting people from all across the world

  • reaching out to me about this video I made.

  • It didn't matter who they were or where they came from.

  • I had a rabbi

  • and a Christian Sunday school teacher both saying,

  • you know, I want to use this kind of Big Talk strategy with my students.

  • I had a soldier in Israel and a soldier in South Korea

  • both reach out to me over Facebook message and say,

  • "We don't have enough Big Talk in the Army,

  • and I wish I could make Big Talk with my fellow soldiers."

  • Had one woman reach out to me in a Facebook message,

  • and I actually started crying in the student lounge

  • when I was reading this, and she said, "Kalina, I think you saved my life.

  • Watching this video made me realize

  • that I need to quit smoking before it's too late."

  • And I had a lot of college students, too,

  • who said that the story of my loneliness in freshman year

  • really resonated with them also,

  • and students from the East Coast, the Midwest, the West Coast,

  • a lot of international students too, Singapore, South Africa.

  • And I was shocked that people all over the world

  • were saying the same things,

  • and one message could hit them all of the same.

  • I even had entrepreneurs in San Francisco who were really intrigued by the idea,

  • the name Big Talk is kind of a two worded, like, start-up name, maybe.

  • And then I had international models from Germany, Thailand saying,

  • you know, in the modelling industry there's a lot of shallowness

  • and we need more Big Talk there.

  • And this all just came from a YouTube video,

  • and a lot of people expressed a similar sentiment,

  • and some people even said,

  • "I want to join your movement and make Big Talk."

  • And I was like:" Wow, I never thought of this as a movement.”

  • And after that, I got so inspired to turn it into a movement.

  • I kind of came up with these new research questions:

  • How do I scale Big Talk beyond just my own YouTube videos?

  • How can we enable strangers to engage in deeper conversations right away?

  • How do we make it not weird to just skip the small talk

  • and jump into Big Talk?

  • And then, how do we take these universal life questions -

  • "What do you want to do before you die?"

  • which you could ask any human being right? -

  • and how do we use them as a tool

  • for building empathy across boundaries of space

  • and our external perceived differences?

  • So I became really enthralled by these questions.

  • I started giving talks in the workshops,

  • make Big Talk workshops,

  • and I created this deck of tiny cards -

  • 90 mini Big Talk question cards.

  • Every question had to be universal - you could ask anybody -

  • meaningful - thought provoking, skips the small talk -

  • and open ended,

  • that it would elicit a story,

  • that you could sit down with another human and hear their life story.

  • There were questions like:

  • What do you spend too much time doing?

  • What is a new habit you want to form?

  • What is your biggest fear?

  • I became more and more,

  • to be honest, obsessed with the idea of growing Big Talk,

  • and I wanted to -

  • like, I started reading entrepreneurship blogs,

  • how do you build, like, a big movement

  • and enterprise around it.

  • I was, like, I am going to take this idea to Silicon Valley,

  • and that's what I did.

  • I went to San Francisco,

  • and I led a Big Talk seminar at the Thiel Summit.

  • I started hosting dinners with strangers, like Big Talk southerners with strangers,

  • and I would have people write their own Big Talk style questions, too,

  • to ask each other.

  • Then I started spending a lot of time on my computer,

  • figuring out how can I grow Big Talk.

  • I put up this website where I was putting up all the events

  • and the cards and everything,

  • and then something weird started to happen.

  • In trying to grow this movement, it was all about -

  • it originally was created out of my own loneliness in freshman year

  • and desire to meaningfully connect with people,

  • I suddenly found myself

  • feeling very alone and disconnected to the world.

  • I forgot to mention that I also decided to take a leave of absence

  • from university last year,

  • halfway through my junior year of college to work on Big Talk.

  • So, a wise professor once told me,

  • before you go out and try to feed the world,

  • you need to learn how to feed yourself.

  • So that's what I did.

  • I started asking myself,

  • how can I scale these meaningful connections,

  • using new technologies,

  • without losing my own humanity in the process?

  • And I was asking myself these Big Talk questions,

  • like: Who am I?

  • And: What's most important in life?

  • Like, why am I so passionate about Big Talk?

  • I started making Big Talk with myself.

  • I took the deck of 90 mini Big Talk questions

  • and started using them as journal entries

  • and used Big Talk to reconnect with myself.

  • And so, now that I feel more comfortable

  • with kind of re-understanding why I started in the first place,

  • my original vision holds strong,

  • and I'm ready to kind of embark on it again

  • and understand that it takes time to figure out the big stuff,

  • we're not going to figure it out right away.

  • The ultimate vision is to use Big Talk to build a global empathy

  • through the power of connection over sharing stories,

  • about our universal human experiences,

  • but also, just as important, to use Big Talk as a tool

  • for understanding and connecting with yourself.

  • In light of the theme of today's TEDx: "Thou Mayest,"

  • I want to leave you with one more Big Talk question

  • to ask yourself:

  • How can I take what I learned today to make my life different tomorrow?

  • Thank you.

  • (Applause)

Translator: Queenie Lee Reviewer: Peter van de Ven

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