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  • Whether it's online or live or what have you, please be patient with me

  • as I walk through some of this stuff.

  • First, I want everyone to take a deep breath...

  • Exhale...

  • There's a lot of energy in an environment like this, isn't there?

  • There's a crowd mentality that reminds us that we are involved

  • in a singular social organism, and we relate to each other

  • on a very profound and deep level.

  • As profound as that is on one side

  • it can also be little caustic and dangerous on another

  • if we get too caught up in things

  • that might move us in the wrong direction.

  • I don't see that happening here but I do hope

  • everyone can relax with me for a moment as I begin to speak

  • this very brief but detailed, intricate talk.

  • As you all know, my name is Peter Joseph and I work

  • with an organization called the Zeitgeist Movement.

  • [cheering]

  • Thank you.

  • This movement was founded in 2008 and it's a sustainability advocacy group

  • without country, without classes

  • without any religion or race.

  • It is a global concept working to unify the human species

  • in a way that's considered humane and actually sustainable.

  • In the longer-term interest

  • we actually seek something that I think many of you might share

  • which is the removal of the entire socio-economic system itself.

  • The details of which

  • I'm going to express as I continue this talk.

  • I pulled out some history books recently to see

  • if I'd seen anything like this in basic modern history.

  • Has there ever been a movement that actually goes

  • against the financial and corporate powers on this scale

  • and in the community globally, ever and there hasn't been.

  • That's a very telling sign as far as the awareness of the culture

  • wouldn't you say? Many people yell at political buildings

  • and they work to try and engage their political establishment

  • with the idea that it actually is where the power resides in this world

  • that we share, when it's very clear that the power is obviously

  • within the financial structure and always has been.

  • Even with the Great Depression when I researched these issues

  • I found nothing that really went after the true powers that be.

  • There's a man named John McMurtry

  • which some of you might be familiar with.

  • He made a very unique analogy to where we are with this state of affairs.

  • He stated that what we're seeing in the world today

  • is actually the rise of the social immune system

  • not the rise of a political ideology

  • but the rise of a defense mechanism

  • coming from the very fabric of our culture

  • that sees that something is extremely wrong and very cancerous

  • to society as a whole.

  • We, the social immune system, need to work

  • to recognize the true root problem, and then move to remove it

  • as fast as possible before it takes hold

  • and essentially works for our own termination.

  • As the cancer has grown since the inception of the system

  • that I'm going to speak of, it's become more malignant, more caustic

  • and obviously across the world

  • absent of any country, nation or political party.

  • We're beginning to see its caustic effects.

  • Just as the cancer in our bodies produces different symptoms

  • that harm certain areas first, such as our lungs or our kidneys

  • we need to ask the question "Where is the real sickness lying?"

  • I heard someone yell out capitalism a moment ago

  • but is that really the psychology that's underlying the problem that we see

  • or is it simply a manifestation of something even more flawed

  • at the foundational level?

  • Are we actually seeing this cancer for what it is

  • really working to correct it at the root source

  • or are we just addressing its symptoms?

  • This is the question I would like to pose, not only to Occupy LA

  • but to the entire movement related

  • and all those that are worried about the state-of-affairs on this planet.

  • How do we diagnose the real issue?

  • How should we feel about the 1% which own 40% of the planet's wealth?

  • How should we feel about 400 Americans that have more wealth

  • than 150 million Americans combined?

  • How should we feel about top hedge fund managers

  • that take home over 300 million dollars a year

  • and for what?

  • Do these hedge funds managers actually create anything?

  • Last I checked, the measure of our market system

  • which justifies its competitive nature

  • is that those who contribute the most to society

  • are supposed to be the ones that are most rewarded.

  • Obviously, the exact opposite is true.

  • As a quick aside I will state that if there's anything

  • that can represent the tumor of the system that we inhabit

  • it would be Wall Street, the Stock Exchange

  • and the banking establishment as a whole.

  • But again, the tumors are not actually the source of this disease.

  • They are symptoms. Symptoms, just as the rampant foreclosures

  • forcing people out of their homes, are symptoms.

  • Symptoms, like the ongoing economic decline

  • and loss of so-called growth, are symptoms.

  • Symptoms, like the ongoing debt crisis

  • that is yet to fully hit America

  • but has already taken its toll in the EU

  • Greece, Italy, Portugal and many others.

  • Obviously no resolution has been found. Why?

  • Because they're trying to resolve the problems that have been generated

  • within this system by using mechanisms of this system.

  • Even as our governments continue to bail out banks across the world

  • they impose austerity on us.

  • Is that at the result of something negative?

  • Are these people just evil? Are they just trying to do the worst they can

  • to insult the humanity of us?

  • Are they just corrupt, greedy criminals? Anomalies?

  • Are they aliens from another planet that have come down to fuck with us?

  • Well, they're people, exactly

  • and they are likely manifestations of this cancer

  • rather than a cause of it.

  • As the world awakens to this financial system and its flaws

  • I've noticed a very radical perspective slowly being realized

  • which transcends the economic tradition

  • many of us assumed to be natural to our way of life.

  • You notice that we tend to assume

  • that the systems we're born into, the traditional systems

  • are automatically assumed to be empirical. Have you ever noticed that?

  • We might look at politics and governments as we know it

  • as a whole and assume it's valid, why?

  • Because that's all we've ever known. Is it any true measure of logic?

  • Probably not. It's simply tradition. It's custom.

  • You'll find that we seem to be locked into custom frames of reference

  • rather than emergent frames of reference

  • and that is fundamentally what needs to change in our view of reality.

  • We might look at the market system, our use of money

  • and assume it will always be there, right?

  • Not because of any benchmark of our earthly economic measure

  • of what it truly means to be sustainable, not because of

  • any scientific realization of what human behavior actually entails

  • and how we tend to act based on what's reinforced in our culture

  • but simply because that's all we've ever known.

  • However, as the bio-social pressures

  • continue to grind down the global workforce

  • as machine automation continues to replace human labor

  • for the benefit of saving corporations' money

  • reducing purchasing power, your money

  • and inevitably stifling economic growth

  • our perspective might just grow a little bit larger

  • than the traditional norms we've come to understand.

  • Maybe, human employment for income as we know it

  • something that I've heard in rhetoric a lot of people complaining about:

  • "Where's our jobs? " maybe the foundation

  • of our entire economic system simply isn't going to work anymore

  • because we realize the non-stop effects of science and technology

  • hence the emergent nature of reality

  • clashing with our traditional assumptions.

  • Perhaps even with the expanding debt crisis

  • born out of the fractional reserve lending system

  • and the structural reality that money is actually created out of debt

  • and sold as a commodity in exchange for interest

  • that can only come into existence through the creation of more loan sales

  • and the creation of more money.

  • Maybe, the debt collapses aren't the result

  • of some political policy or some corporate or government malfeasance.

  • Maybe they are the result of the actual structural form

  • of this system that we inhabit.

  • With the psychology of growth and consumption

  • that continues to create

  • the ongoing social and environmental destruction that we see:

  • abuse and exploitation all around us

  • that so many environmentalists complain about

  • yet they still tend not to realize that the system is based on that.

  • It's defined by consumption. It's defined by turnover

  • and we often think that corporations should be held responsible

  • for their actions because of their abuse of this nature

  • when the competitive market model of economics

  • demands that behavior.

  • Again, it's structural.

  • How is it in a world that's supposed to be economizing...

  • What is the definition of an economy? It means the management of a household.

  • What does that mean? It implies that you have to be thrift.

  • It means you e-con-o-mize; it means you save; it means you are strategic

  • in what you do. How is an economy based on consumption

  • to maintain your employment, economizing at all?

  • Obviously, it's a complete anti-economy.

  • It's time we consider among all of this

  • that the problems we're seeing (that we're here about)

  • are actually systemically rooted in the core structure

  • of what defines our economic system

  • and the psychology that is created, supported and rewarded.

  • I keep hearing the phrase in the Occupy Movement "We are the 99%"

  • and while I understand and admire that communicative gesture

  • I would like to expand back and think about this a little bit more technically.

  • I think it's a little more accurate to say "We are not the 99%.

  • We are actually the 100%"

  • and all of us are to blame.

  • The only reason the 1% have what they do

  • is because the 99% continues to support all the elements

  • that fuel the wealth of the 1%.

  • The system is literally designed to support the 1% over the 99.

  • The values that we see in our culture are designed to make sure

  • you aspire to those that maintain the role of the 1%.

  • It's called 'The American Dream' remember?

  • The American Dream which only exists for the 1%. It always did.

  • Our success is often measured in our material wealth

  • or how we gain admiration in the culture

  • our dignity defined by what others think of us.

  • Is that true success?

  • No, that is a false distorted value that came from a system

  • that needed to be based on everyone being acquisitive, competitive

  • cut-throat and essentially inhumane.

  • The historical illusion, I have to point out

  • which continues to this day, which I know is manifest

  • in a lot of gestures here in this audience and across the world

  • (rightfully so, but it's still an illusion) is that

  • there is some person or group that is explicitly to blame.

  • Rather than focus on the fact

  • that the 1% of the world's population has over 40% of the planet's wealth

  • let's instead ask ourselves the question "How is that even possible?"

  • How is that even possible that our system allows for such a thing?

  • Do we really have grounds to be surprised

  • at the way the world is operating?

  • When the very foundation of what motivates the current social order

  • is taken into account, should we really be surprised at all?

  • "What is the economy? " I ask the question.

  • The monetary market model at work in the world

  • means that through the movement of money

  • power and property can be bought and sold at will

  • within the confines of legal legislation

  • which is 'for sale' in the open market

  • just as all politicians are for sale in the open market;

  • just as all administrations, policies in general

  • are for sale in the open market. What did you expect

  • when the whole system is based upon

  • the buying and selling of property, power and influence?

  • There is no escape from the influence of money

  • with respect to governmental policy, why?

  • Because government in this system is nothing more than a business.

  • That's all it can be and I hope that can become clear

  • in the minds of many and see the true root of change

  • has to be beyond the lobbying for government

  • to do things within our favor. It has to go deeper.

  • While people in the world continue to protest this system

  • they come up with such terms as 'corporatism' and 'crony capitalism'

  • and even 'fascism' to highlight the legal reality

  • that businesses can influence all legislations to what's called

  • 'corporate lobbying', yet it's legal. Why wouldn't it be?

  • This is what the system is.

  • It's those that seem to impose the assumption

  • that this system is something that it isn't, that continues to bother me.

  • This system was always fascist at its very origin.

  • It just took this long for the root of it to rise to the top

  • because the cancer continues to grow

  • and now the social immune system is noticing it

  • and that's the only difference.

  • Do you know what creates jobs in the world today?

  • Problems.

  • Everyone talks about labor. Do you know what really creates jobs?

  • Problems! In an efficient world, there would be less of a need

  • for all of us to be employed or to engage in any type of long-term action

  • that we would consider a job.

  • People would learn to be satisfied and not greedy.

  • They would learn to understand their relationship to the environment.

  • The system of progress would be less need to resolve problems

  • not more being generated, which is what we're doing today.

  • In other words, there was an empirical decoupling

  • from what actually supports life on this planet and the scientific reality

  • that we inhabit and have been learning about.

  • It's built right in.

  • The monetary market system at its core must change

  • not the policies that regulate it. On a different level,

  • just to throw this in for those who have never thought about the fact

  • that the entire structure of our economy is intrinsically flawed

  • there's a culturally hegemonic attribute of this system that goes unnoticed:

  • If you have $1,000,000

  • and you put it into bank account

  • a CD investment at 4% interest

  • you will make $40,000 a year, for doing what?

  • [Nothing]

  • However, if you take loans to buy your home

  • and you need to take out credit as it's called

  • you're paying interest in, and guess where that interest goes?

  • It goes to fuel the 1% or those with the wealth

  • that have the ability to actually deposit money and make money off of it.

  • Am I the only one that sees that hegemonic flaw in that?

  • Yet you rarely see a sign being held up

  • defending or defining the interest system.

  • You rarely hear people ask

  • "Why do we even have interest to begin with?"

  • It's one of those things that goes unnoticed.

  • It's in the interest of the 1%

  • that we all seem to think it's OK and normal. This is the problem.

  • No one's realizing what the structural problem actually is.

  • They don't realize the reinforcement they are doing

  • to actually continue this system

  • while on the other side of their awareness they think they're fighting it.

  • In fact I'll say this

  • The values that comprise our culture today

  • are what actually support the higher level classes

  • and systematically repress them without them even knowing it.

  • As I began to say earlier

  • in the 1960s a man named Stokely Carmichael, the famous activist

  • coined a very important phrase called 'institutional racism'.

  • This was referring to how unnoticed

  • underlying policies and structures within the social system

  • undermined African-American prosperity and equality.

  • What we have today is a mere variation.

  • It's institutional classism.

  • And it is equally a civil rights issue as anything else

  • that has ever existed.

  • Coming back to the nature of Occupy Wall Street

  • Wall Street itself as we know, which is the ultimate manifestation

  • of the pursuit of money as a commodity

  • rather than any form of true creation or social contribution

  • is naturally ripe for symbolic objection.

  • At a minimum, it shouldn't exist at all

  • and most certainly not have the grand effect it does

  • on the stability of our economy today.

  • That being stated, it must again be made clear

  • that Wall Street and the banking system are not the source of our problems.

  • They are only symptoms of a larger order economic cancer

  • which will continue to not only create more imbalance

  • but will completely eventually fail by its own gravity

  • and its outdated assumptions of our human conduct

  • and its false environmental relationships.

  • What we are seeing in the world today is, in my view

  • the beginning of the end

  • when it comes to the protest movements that have been started.

  • This is the beginning of a change of values and structure

  • that has been needed for a very long time

  • for our emerging understanding is now overriding

  • the traditional assumptions that have held these structures in place.

  • I want to ask one final question:

  • If you were given the option

  • to participate in a program of sharing

  • to have the values where someone said to you

  • "If I give to you, would you be willing to give to me?"

  • not in the sense of barter

  • but in the value of simply what it means to actually give

  • and the understanding that when you look back at your life in the future

  • are you really going to remember

  • (I'm speaking to the whole of whoever is listening here, not just you)?

  • Are you going to remember all those things you did in your self-interest?

  • Are the CEO's and bankers and the elite that exist

  • really going to have pride in themselves

  • when they look back at their lives to think that all the money

  • they've acquired actually was a measure of some type of success?

  • Isn't the true measure of success

  • your ability to relate to your environment

  • hence the immediate reciprocation

  • that defines our intrinsic unification and unity?

  • I'm not here to say when I address the monetary system

  • that we don't need 'surgery' to remove the effects

  • and cancers of this system.

  • The tumors, in fact, we desperately do.

  • We do need massive political pressures and to do whatever we can

  • to help this system push into the right direction

  • but I have to remind all of you that

  • until the root source is addressed

  • until the movement comes together globally

  • as it is slowly doing that's willing to work together

  • to override the system as it exists

  • not to find a seat at the 'proverbial table'

  • but to establish a completely new table

  • no long-term societal change is going to work.

  • I leave that with you and I deeply commend you on your courage

  • and I thank you for your time and good luck!

  • [Applause]

Whether it's online or live or what have you, please be patient with me

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