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  • If you install The Venus Project throughout the world

  • declare all the Earth's resources as the common heritage of all the world's people.

  • See, Mark Twain said, "There's not an acre of land on Earth

  • that belongs to its rightful owners."

  • So, over the years, powerful nations took land from others.

  • This includes the United States, Germany, France; they're all corrupt.

  • I'm sorry about that, but all nations are corrupt.

  • As long as you use money, you can pay off senators

  • the drug company can buy time

  • so you can't have decency and ethics in a corrupt world.

  • "But are you talking about a utopia?"

  • No. There's no such thing.

  • The reason there is no such thing as utopia is because

  • if you design the best building you know how to design

  • that's the best you know up to now.

  • With the advent of a new material, the city'll keep changing.

  • There's no best laptop. Next year there'll be smaller, lighter, wider range.

  • Cameras no longer use film.

  • So you can't design the best camera, you can only design the best that you know of up to now.

  • No utopias, no final frontiers.

  • "But for you, your vision of the future"

  • is always changing.

  • "But it's dependent on technology?"

  • Yes. Technology and knowledge in all fields.

  • Today, scientists are specialized in optics, another guy rockets

  • so the nation can use them anyway they want to.

  • In the future, people will be educated to be generalists, so no one can use you

  • to make weapons of destruction.

  • "But you look at some of your designs

  • some of your visions for the future and people say

  • "Yeah, look, it's like you might have seen in Popular Mechanics in the 50s.

  • You know, "This is what's going to be like in 1999."

  • No. It's nothing like that.

  • Hollywood shows you spaceships and people using laser weapons.

  • They take the same cowboys and Indians and put 'em in spaceships.

  • That is not the future, that's man's concept of this limited society

  • that doesn't teach you how to think and look ahead.

  • They teach you how to be a cameraman, auto mechanic, chemist, or a structural engineer

  • but they don't give you an overview of society.

  • "For people to embrace what you're talking about..."

  • Well, it's not my system really.

  • If we don't live in accordance with the nature of the Earth

  • if we don't live in accordance with the natural resources, we can't live.

  • You can't designate a population of 10 million without doing a study of the resources you have.

  • After you study, we have enough resources to support so many billions of people

  • and if you exceed that, you're going to have starvation, malnutrition, territorial disputes.

  • If you maintain a population in accordance with the carrying capacity of the Earth

  • no opinions of senators.

  • Politics was great, a hundred years ago.

  • Today, it's all obsolete.

  • "But aren't you really, you're talking revolution, because you're saying..."

  • No.

  • "When society breaks down..."

  • Technical revolution.

  • "Yeah, but when society breaks down, then they'll want to do it a different way."

  • I'm sorry about that, but it seems that conditions were so abusive, in some lands

  • that they put in socialism, communism, whatever, or fascism

  • that fits the conditions that people live under.

  • None of them are the solution.

  • All governments, all through history, have been corrupt.

  • "So, in that case, the rise of the Nazis in Germany was perfectly logical."

  • Was logical within their conditioning.

  • In other words, Hitler did not lead Germany that way

  • but what he spoke of was acceptable to the German people, obviously.

  • He was put there by German big business and industry

  • and the working man had no voice.

  • He thought he was a communist, a socialist.

  • Hitler's system would not have worked even if they'd won the war.

  • "You must know that people look at your concepts."

  • Yes, I heard.

  • "And with utmost respect Jacque, they will say, "You're a crazy old man."'

  • I understand that. This is not unusual.

  • Every move from women's rights to child labor, were fought with battles, all the time.

  • No new system ever came in smoothly.

  • Even in the army, the cavalry fought the war tanks.

  • When the war tanks came in, they fought the guided missile.

  • Now the guided missile people are fighting lasers from weapons in the sky.

  • Then they have a bomb called a "flicker bomb", so bright light goes on and off

  • it gives you an epileptic seizure and doesn't destroy the environment.

  • Now they're in control, but there's no limit to what man can do.

  • Man is the dumbest animal.

  • He pollutes the ocean, the air, the rivers, the atmosphere, and people.

  • Man, they put themselves on a pedestal, say "We're the highest form of life."

  • That's an ego trip. They're not. We're not civilized yet.

  • As long as you have prisons, police, armies, navies; we are not civilized.

  • Until the world learns to live together, constructively

  • that'll be the beginning of the scientific age.

  • We're not there yet.

  • During the time of the Wright Brothers

  • the scientists of the time were writing books as to why man can't fly

  • and the Wright Brothers didn't read those books

  • so they went right on and built the flying machine.

  • Goddard couldn't speak about rocketry in the scientific fields

  • 'cause he'd be looked at as a quack.

  • So all through history, the scientists of the times, were saying how things could not progress.

  • "But, how do you convince people?"

  • I'm going to try to explain that.

  • "How do you convince them?"

  • First of all, no one has an opinion.

  • See, they bring you up where everyone should have a right to their own opinion.

  • If your sister lived across the way from me

  • and I see 10 guys coming out of her apartment

  • I can have all kinds of opinions.

  • The most difficult thing for people to say is "I don't know."

  • "Do you think a man'll ever get to the moon?"

  • "I don't know enough about rockets, or the prop.... I don't know."

  • But today, when people say, "Well, if you ask me, not in a thousand years."

  • I'm not interested in that.

  • What do you know about space travel? Machinery, rocketry? Nothing.

  • Then, I don't want to hear from you.

  • Do you understand? People just yack on about anything

  • if you give them all a right to their own opinion.

  • In the future, here's the way they'll talk

  • If they see an airplane without wings, in the future, they'll say

  • "How do you propose to lift off the ground without wings?"

  • Today they say, "It'll never fly, it doesn't have wings."

  • They have an opinion about everything, and that's dangerous.

  • That's why nations don't move forward.

  • "But, you look at you now, and you're touring around, you're talking to people."

  • Yes.

  • "What, for the next seven months you're gonna travel the world."

  • Yes.

  • "And you're 94 years old."

  • Yes.

  • "You haven't got anything better to do?"

  • No. Not now, I'm afraid of the direction that Man is taking.

  • We have bombs now that are like a thousand times greater than the one dropped on Hiroshima.

  • How stupid can you be? What can you accomplish with that?

  • The United States has 300 submarines, and according to the Navy

  • each one has more destructive power than all the wars in history.

  • What are you going to accomplish with that? A burnt-out radioactive planet?

  • You won the war?

  • What do you win?

  • It's much easier to bring the nations of the world together

  • not kill those that don't agree with you, bring them together.

  • If I took every soldier, I would educate them to be problem solvers, not killing machines.

  • If they draft you to serve, to put up your life for your country

  • they should conscript all the war industries

  • so no one makes a buck out of war. Then it's real.

  • You don't have that.

  • "What can one man do though?"

  • Talk to other people. If you like what The Venus Project stands for, talk to others.

  • If you do nothing, nothing will happen. I can assure you that.

  • I have no power, Roxanne has no power.

  • It's merely a presentation of a world without war, hunger, poverty, or job loss.

  • It's always been one person who comes up with new ideas

  • and when other people hear about it

  • then they work towards it and do what they can to make it happen.

  • But it's usually one person that's come up with different ideas.

  • "Do you see him as a genius?"

  • No, I see him as someone who's gone through certain things during his lifetime

  • and arrived at different conclusions.

  • His background was very different.

  • He worked in technology, he was a futurist

  • but most futurists don't talk about the future in terms of technology

  • they have wishes and aspirations, and hopes and dreams.

  • He can build these things technically.

  • He's worked with drug addicts, alcoholics, changed them.

  • He even joined the Klan, he wanted to see if he could put his ideas to test.

  • He joined the Ku Klux Klan in the United States, and changed them within a month and a half.

  • Then join the White Citizens Council and changed them.

  • It's not just coming out of his head saying, "I would like a different world."

  • He worked at it, and worked at people to change them.

  • "You joined the Klan?"

  • - Ku Klux Klan, years ago, and it was about 32 members.

  • So, I joined them by talking with...

  • First, that leader said to me, "What do you think of the Ku Klux Klan?"

  • I said, "It's a great idea, but it doesn't go far enough."

  • Then they listen. But if you down it, they don't listen. You understand?

  • You have to learn different people's values and speak in their terms, not your terms.

  • If you speak ahead of the terms of people, they don't know what you're talking about.

  • So, in New York, I asked a question

  • "What are the most undeveloped people in the area?"

  • I got one consensus, they said, "The Arabs that live in Atlantic Avenue."

  • I said, "What makes you think they're backward?"

  • "They still believe the Earth is flat."

  • So I said, "I better try to turn them around because if I can't turn them around

  • how am I going to change the world?"

  • That's why I join the Klan and the White Citizens Council.

  • So, I call the leader of the Arabs in that area and I said, "I would like to speak with you."

  • He said, "You are Arab?" That's all he can say.

  • I said, "Yes." - I'm not Arab.

  • So he said, "Where your father he born?"

  • I said, "Lebanon."

  • He said, "Very good, come and saw me;" means "Come and see me."

  • So I came to see him and I said, "Do you believe the world is round?"

  • "No."

  • So he said to me, "Do you believe...?"

  • I said, "No." He... "tut tut tut"

  • That means "It can't be."

  • Then he pointed to his head

  • he says, "If the world be round, man fall me down, all the water he fall me down."

  • Kept doing that.

  • So I said, "Boy, I got to get to this guy."

  • So I gave him a balloon which I brought with me and I rubbed it with fur.

  • I put cornflakes in his hand and told him to hold his hand away from the balloon.

  • You know what happens if you rub it?

  • All the cornflakes go up to the balloon.

  • And his jaw hit the pavement.

  • He said, "World he magnet?"

  • "Eeehh..."

  • "Aaaaahhh..."

  • And he explained that to all the other Arabs.

  • Took an hour and a half to turn them around by demonstration.

  • But if you use language, scientific centrifugal force, geomagnetic fields

  • they don't know what the hell you're talking about.

  • "Did you turn around the Klan though?"

  • Oh yes. Do you want me to tell you how?

  • "Yeah."

  • Okay. It was a longer process.

  • What I did is I spoke to the leader only.

  • Took him to my lab, showed him a lot of interesting things

  • and he said in his southern accent

  • "Will you come on down to the Klan meeting and talk to our boys?"

  • I said, "They wouldn't listen to me, Lou."

  • He said, "I'll get 'em to listen to you, 'cause what you say makes sense."

  • I showed him a lot of things he never knew existed.

  • So he silenced them and I spoke to them a little bit.

  • Then I said, "Lou, you can look at a person and tell us all about him."

  • "How do you do that?"

  • He said, "Well, I didn't think I can teach you anything."

  • I said, "Well, if you can do that, tell me how it's done."

  • So, I brought some pictures down at the Klan meeting and projected them on the wall.

  • And Lou said, "He looks like a good man, a God fearing man, American veteran"

  • projecting his own values.

  • On the end of the picture, I pull down the bottom, it says

  • "Wanted by the FBI for subversive action against the United States."

  • When he used to speak, he just said anything

  • and the others, not knowing anything, shook their head.

  • This is the first time what he said didn't make sense, so his group started to laugh at him.

  • So I said to the guys, "Shut your mouth, 'cause Lou knows more about people than we do."

  • I had to defend him till the next film.

  • The next film was a record of a man talking in an oxford accent about aviation.

  • He said, "I see a skinny Englishman with a bald head and eyeglasses."

  • He's projecting his own values. Now then, 10 minutes later, the image comes on

  • it's a black guy, raised in England.

  • "It's a goddammed nigger talking like an Englishman!"

  • This is Lou's reaction, not my words.

  • And I said, "Lou, that guy was raised in a different environment."

  • If you took a black man and raised him in France

  • he'd speak like a Frenchman, if he was a baby.

  • If you raised him in Germany, he'd speak with a German accent.