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  • I'm so moved to get to be here with all of you and share this extraordinary memory.

  • >> I'm so happy that you're here.

  • And Oprah said yes right away.

  • I saw you at my birthday party and

  • I asked you to play that part, and you right away said yes.

  • >> Yes. >> As well, and

  • what do you remember about that when you think back?

  • >> I remember just listening just now to the two of you,

  • I remember the same bliss of getting to be part of supporting you and

  • this moment, and what a privilege and an honor it felt like.

  • And I didn't think twice and

  • it's so amazing that the three of us never talked after.

  • >> Ever. >> About all the things we went through.

  • And shared because it was only after I'd said yes and

  • we were starting it that I started getting calls which was so

  • shocking to me of friends and colleagues,

  • even gay friends and colleagues, saying are you sure you want to do that?

  • That seems scary.

  • Are you worried?

  • And I didn't have a worry at all.

  • >> You're like, worried about what?

  • >> Yeah.

  • >> Yeah, and then you were punished as well.

  • You didn't work for a year, just because you were on that show.

  • >> Yeah. >> And you're not even gay, but

  • people thought you were gay.

  • Yes.

  • >> I hurt straight people through this.

  • I'm hurting everyone.

  • So yeah, it was unbelievable, that when

  • I talked to you after that that you were punished as well and not able to work.

  • And but the thing about that, you were so comforting in that scene.

  • Because saying, I'm gay, gay people just,

  • for you straight people out there, gay people don't just go around saying,

  • I'm gay, because you don't need to for the people that know you're gay.

  • So, no one says it.

  • So, for those words to come out of my mouth for the very first time,

  • to say I'm gay, even rehearsing it, I would burst into tears every single time.

  • >> I have to say, just watching the clip, it made me so emotional.

  • Because of all the things I feel privileged to experience in my life,

  • as a human but also as an actor, there's no greater gift than being

  • the person that was with you and looking in your eyes as you said those words.

  • And when we did rehearse, you even whispered to me once,

  • maybe I'm not going to say it cuz I haven't said that out loud.

  • And watching you have this catharsis or ritual and the audience support.

  • And sort of holding, literally holding each other.

  • I remember kind of holding each other up through this very emotional moment,

  • it was so profound.

  • And I feel so blessed that I got to be there and witness that.

  • >> Well, thank you for being there for me because it really was a charged moment.

  • It was really amazing.

  • And people so, I mentioned that people assumed you're gay.

  • I don't think they do anymore.

  • You got married, not that means anything a lot of people get married just to pretend.

  • But you were married and have kids and

  • of course you and Gayle are still in a relationship, right?

  • >> I think me being on that show didn't help that situation at all.

  • I mean, thanks a lot.

  • Just stoking the fire.

I'm so moved to get to be here with all of you and share this extraordinary memory.


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エレン、オプラ、ローラ・ダーンが「カミングアウト」エピソードを語る (Ellen, Oprah & Laura Dern on the 'Coming Out' Episode)

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