Simon: I'm adding to it. Right? I mean, you know, I don't think I've thrown anything away.

I may use some things less than I used to. But the more I learn and the more I get to

practice more importantly, the more tools I'm adding to that toolbox. What's also great

is some of the tools change size, in other words, there are some tools that I really

like and I'm really good with, and so I use those tools because they're very helpful to

me, and there are other tools that I've learned that I'm really no good with and so they're

there if I need them, you know, I've never understood the idea of working on your weaknesses,

you know, we're always told in our performance reviews, here are your weaknesses and these

are the things you need to work on to get to the next level, I've never understood that,

the whole idea is to work in our strengths, amplify our strengths, and we, you know, hire

our weaknesses or—this is the value of a team, right? What's the point of having a

team if you have to be—if you have to improve on your weaknesses? The whole idea is we have

you on our team because you're really good at this. You know? And we found somebody else

who's really good at this, which you're really bad at. You guys are a team. This is the value

of a team. And so I think in our workplace, our companies do us a great disservice by

telling us that we have to fix our weaknesses or improve upon our weaknesses to get to the

next level, they should be encouraging us and giving the tool to amplify our strengths

to get to the next level, that's what they want us for, right? Otherwise, here are your

strengths and here are your weaknesses, now you're even. Wouldn't you wanna be this? You

need to be aware of your weaknesses but we need to amplify those strengths.

Erik: What are a couple of examples of like the creative tools that have brought that

out?

Simon: I'm a lover of creative people. And so any sort of expression of how you see the

world in a—with different terminology is fascinating to me. And so even though I myself

am a photographer so I have that visual aspect, I'm a huge fan of modern dance and spend a

lot of time sort of with dancers and in the dance world and have, you know, tried my hand

at choreography just to see, you know? I'm not good. But it—I like the idea of trying

it, you know? And so for me it's about perspective, which is when I—when you hang out with dancers

and you sort of learn to dance a little bit or you learn to choreograph a little bit,

or you learn to paint a little bit, you know? I'm not a painter but I painted a painting

recently, you know? If you—it's like chaos theory. Everything's connected, right? It's

like we conveniently divide up our lives, like here's my personal life, here's my professional

life, I'm—here's my social life, I'm looking to find balance. It's just you. And all the

same things apply. And so if you're good here, you can apply what you learn here to there.

And so when you learn how things interconnect and people interconnect, and how human relationships

work, and presence, I mean you wanna learn about presence? Take a dance class. You learn

all about how to present yourself and be forwards. Take an acting class, learn how to, you know,

present your speech. People say, Simon, how did you learn this? It's like—I'm exposed

to all of this. So the tools I've learned have just mainly been different perspectives

on how other people use their creative talents to see the world in it. If I can get little

pieces of those, they help me in many, many different ways.