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  • - [Voiceover] Hi, Dr. Kutz.

  • - [Voiceover] Hello, David. How are you doing?

  • - [Voiceover] I'm doing well. I'm excited to learn

  • about this thing we call "the Cold War."

  • What is a "cold war" and what makes it

  • different than a "hot war"?

  • - [Voiceover] So, a cold war, and in this case

  • it's really,

  • it might be a term that we could debate.

  • is a war where the two major combatants

  • never actually fire bullets at each other

  • or drop bombs on each other.

  • So never in the course of the Cold War did the

  • US ever meet the ground troops with the USSR.

  • - [Voiceover] But people still died in combat.

  • - [Voiceover] Right.

  • - [Voiceover] So the Cold War is kind of fought

  • through proxy wars. And these are wars that are

  • taking place in other nations, developing nations

  • of the world where the US is supporting one side,

  • generally the pro-capitalist side,

  • and the Soviet Union is supporting

  • the other side, a communist side.

  • So this is the case in the Korean War

  • in the 1950s, and then definitely

  • the case in the Vietnam War in the 1960s.

  • - [Voiceover] So the US and the USSR aren't fighting

  • directly but they're kind of betting on boxing matches,

  • betting on different fighters in the same boxing match.

  • - [Voiceover] Yeah, but they're not just betting,

  • they're also putting money and arms

  • where their mouth is.

  • - [Voiceover] So now if there are two different

  • fighters in the ring, the US is given

  • the capitalist fighter...

  • feeding him...

  • - [Voiceover] So you've got the capitalist fighter

  • in one corner and he's sweaty and he's beaten,

  • but the US is behind him with a towel and one

  • of those water buckets, splashing water in his face,

  • like "Get in this fight! Get in there!'

  • - [Voiceover] Right. And if necessary,

  • tying up his boxing gloves,

  • maybe giving him a new pair of shoes.

  • - [Voiceover] Sure.

  • - [Voiceover] Doing whatever they can... - [Voiceover] Paying his rent...

  • - [Voiceover] Right. Doing everything that they can... - [Voiceover] Buying him meals, probably,

  • like at the Marshall Plan.

  • - [Voiceover] Exactly!

  • - [Voiceover] Okay, so tell me about these two

  • combatants. In this corner...

  • - [Voiceover] Laughs.

  • - [Voiceover] Wearing a suit...

  • - [Voiceover] (laughs) Is Harry Truman.

  • And Harry Truman is the President of the

  • United States, starting in 1945.

  • He was Vice President to Franklin Roosevelt,

  • who had been the US's president since 1932,

  • and who tragically died in 1945.

  • So Truman is really in charge of ending

  • World War II for the United States and also

  • kind of setting up post-war plans.

  • - [Voiceover] So he prosecutes the end of the war.

  • He makes the decision to drop the atom bomb

  • on Nagasaki and Hiroshima,

  • and he ends the war in both theaters.

  • - [Voiceover] Right.

  • - [Voiceover] Okay.

  • - [Voiceover] And...

  • - [Voiceover] And in the other corner, wearing a

  • very fine mustache...

  • - [Voiceover] (laughs) Is Joseph Stalin.

  • And he's the Soviet premier.

  • He's been in charge since the 1920s.

  • And for him, I would say the most important

  • thing that Stalin wanted after World War II

  • was security, shall we say.

  • - [Voiceover] Okay.

  • - [Voiceover] So if you remember your history,

  • in World War I

  • Germany invaded Russia.

  • In World War II

  • Germany invaded Russia.

  • - [Voiceover] Oh, I'm seeing a pattern.

  • - [Voiceover] And if there's anything that Stalin wants

  • in the post-1945 era,

  • it is not to be invaded by Germany anymore.

  • - [Voiceover] Sure.

  • - [Voiceover] So he is very anxious to make sure

  • that the world is safe for communism.

  • He thinks that

  • the best way to make sure that

  • Russians can continue the experiments and the

  • revolution of communism

  • is to have a buffer zone,

  • shall we say, between Russia and the rest of Europe.

  • - [Voiceover] Okay.

  • - [Voiceover] And if he does that by kind of shoring up

  • some puppet governments, in what we now call the

  • Eastern Block,

  • these nations that had been

  • taken over by Hitler

  • and then when the Soviet Union joined the

  • war on the side of the Allies,

  • then were retaken over

  • by Russia as they fought Hitler back.

  • - [Voiceover] Okay. So a lot of those central European

  • countries like Hungary, and Lithuania, and the former

  • Czechoslovakia, and the former Yugoslavia.

  • - [Voiceover] And he had the advantage of having

  • boots on the ground there because he'd beaten

  • back Hitler's invasion, eventually White Russian

  • troops were fighting against Hitler, and American

  • troops who were fighting against Hitler.

  • You know, they meet in Berlin

  • at the fall of Hitler,

  • and kind of shake hands in Berlin.

  • But the advantage that Russia had was

  • that they've got a lot more people here.

  • They've got most of Europe now,

  • at least east of Berlin,

  • has Soviet troops on the ground.

  • - [Voiceover] Sure. So you've been telling me

  • that the Soviet Union did yeoman's work

  • in containing and basically prosecuting the entire

  • Eastern Front during World War II.

  • - [Voiceover] Yeah, and the Soviet Union actually

  • lost 20 million people during World War II.

  • That's just a ludicrous number.

  • They lost more than anyone except

  • for China and Germany.

  • So they feel like they have a real stake

  • in the outcome of World War II.

  • - [Voiceover] So, at the end of this, what is the

  • situation in the USSR?

  • Like they've conquered all of this territory

  • but are they strong enough

  • economically to hold all of it

  • and feed everyone?

  • - [Voiceover] No, not really.

  • In fact, most of Europe is in pretty dire straits

  • if you think about it.

  • All of World War II was really kind of fought,

  • right, in Europe...

  • - [Voiceover] Right in the European bread basket.

  • - [Voiceover] And so there is serious economic

  • trouble in the aftermath of World War II.

  • People don't have enough to eat.

  • They certainly don't have any cash,

  • and they don't have any fuel,

  • which is very worrisome

  • in 1946 because of the terrible winter.

  • So people are cold and they are hungry.

  • And when people are cold and hungry there is

  • a lot of fuel for a possible revolution, right?.

  • Even in the 1930s, in the United States, there's

  • a lot of different political ideas that come up

  • during the Great Depression.

  • Because when your political system isn't working well,

  • you consider other kinds of political systems.

  • - [Voiceover] So the United States is worried that,

  • because of the cold winter of 1946, and scarcity

  • across western Europe, this blue part of the

  • map will turn much redder.

  • - [Voiceover] Right. So for the United States, they're

  • worried that communism is kind of the child

  • of hunger and poverty.

  • And they're afraid that because Stalin has so much

  • territory in Europe, that he is really well poised

  • to become "Hitler, part two."

  • - [Voiceover] Okay. And that is a sequel the

  • United States does not want to see.

  • - [Voiceover] No. Absolutely not.

  • And if they really learned anything from World War II,

  • it's that appeasement doesn't work, right?

  • During the 1930s, many people in the West,

  • the prime minister of England, Neville Chamberlain,

  • kind of felt like they didn't want to go back to war

  • because World War I is still very much on

  • people's minds during the 1930s.

  • And so they figured, let's not confront Hitler

  • head on because we're not up for that right now.

  • We're also in the middle of worldwide depression.

  • And that helped nothing because it just meant that

  • Hitler could gain a whole lot of territory

  • and World War II was much worse than it might

  • have been if they hadn't gone after Hitler earlier.

  • - [Voiceover] And stopped the Anschluss.

  • - [Voiceover] Yes.

  • - [Voiceover] If you stop the Anschluss, you stop

  • the "onschlaught."

  • - [Voiceover] (laughs) Exactly.

  • So they're really trying

  • to say, all right, Stalin, if he wants to, could probably

  • just run his way through the rest of Europe, right,

  • with very little resistance,

  • because the only nation in the world

  • that has the military and economic

  • power to stop the Soviet Union is the United States.

  • - [Voiceover] Because their factories and fields

  • were not bombed to cinders during the

  • European theater.

  • - [Voiceover] Right. So if they wanna stop

  • "Hitler, part two, the Stalin years,"

  • then they're going to have to really

  • stand up for capitalism

  • and also for the kind of material comforts and

  • democratic, what we call, self-determination.

  • This is one of the most important ideas to come

  • out of the alliance between the United States

  • and Britain, which is that the citizens of a region

  • should have the right to decide their own

  • form of government.

  • - [Voiceover] And they think of the Soviets as being

  • totalitarians. And that's not a wrong assessment

  • because there is a very strong totalitarian control

  • coming out of Moscow and the Soviet Union.

  • So they say, If we're going to keep Europe

  • from turning all red, all communist,

  • then we're going to need to kind of shore up Europe.

  • They think of communism as kind of being a little

  • bit like a flood, shall we say,

  • that you gotta, you gotta put sandbags

  • around the edges of communism.

  • Otherwise, it's gonna leak out.

  • - [Voiceover] So is the United States and their allies

  • also interested in creating their own kind of

  • light blue buffer zone, also next to the Eastern Block?

  • Or are they interested in...

  • Is this when we get into the creation of NATO?

  • - [Voiceover] NATO really comes out of an

  • understanding that World War II has not created peace

  • and so the US is going to have to

  • forego their more than a century-long

  • commitment to being isolationist

  • and take a stronger role in the world.

  • - [Voiceover] So, okay, for the folks at home, what

  • does NATO stand for? North Atlantic Treaty Organization?

  • - [Voiceover] North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

  • And this is a defensive alliance

  • between, at first, 12 nations,

  • which say that an attack on one

  • will be treated as an attack on all.

  • - [Voiceover] Gotcha! Well, that sounds like they're

  • maneuvering their boxers into position

  • and rubbing the shoulders and getting them ready.

  • - [Voiceover] Yes. Very much so.

  • And I think one of the tragedies

  • of the post-war era

  • is that maybe things didn't have to be like this?

  • Right after the US and the USSR had worked

  • together to defeat Hitler,

  • it might have possible for them

  • to coexist peacefully?

  • But I think they both had the idea that the other

  • economic system, and we're talking about

  • communism and capitalism, were just kind of

  • riddled with internal inconsistencies and that

  • eventually the world would be all capitalist

  • or all communist.

  • And they were going to have to really

  • marshal all of their resources behind

  • their chosen boxer or they were gonna lose.

  • - [Voiceover] Sounds like a fight that's gonna

  • take a long time.

  • - [Voiceover] And it did.

  • - [Voiceover] End round one!

- [Voiceover] Hi, Dr. Kutz.

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