inspired partnership at the time I thought it was an unusual partnership

because to make it a very crude distinction I think Aaron Sorkin is

famous as a word guy and you're famous as a as a visual guy you are after all

the guy who directed the London Olympics and and which I thought would have been

funnier I seriously and we can talk about this consumer is really tough in

those big ceremonies humor is really really been given a script with that

much dialogue if you are anything but just know I know I mean and you told me

you told me the other night that there are no the wind in the screenplay that

you're given their no stage did not really there was like this is the first

and this and they're all in Syria day continuous and so it is a provocation is

that because you're basically not trying to direct you just try and I your

writing it and saying he's a team player he has a reputation has been not

difficult to text you know careful about his work

collaborators who can deliver this stuff otherwise you just write a novel you and

just let people but you wanted to be heard and seen and sure I don't know

even if even if I were capable of writing a novel I don't think I am i

power I don't have power subscription I don't think I want to I like what

happens

dialogue on there I've read some of them with which is just literally just

dialogue from the beginning to any June an amazing the way you want it to be

public as we all do that's the business we're in we wanted to be in some sense

share

hadn't heard and criticize them and like all those kind of things as part of our

because I was in the rehearsal room with us for every single moment I mean you

really there was no moment when I don't think he was there when you were smoking

outside of going to eat more bread goods you think I didn't notice you eating I

know you did how did you get involved in the first place

well I had heard I have the story he bought no not at all by the way there's

an extra part that I can you have quite like to know what happened before I came

along by the time so I heard I was in Australia working on a different film

this is just at the end of last year really not very long ago at all

coming to the end of that she knows coming up on got a nice big break in a

busy few years and had a baby and so was coming just looking forward to some

downtime and hair makeup artist who was on that film is a brilliant originally

croatian makeup design and Iran Iraq and I'd worked with her on the reader and a

few other things and we were just chatting as you do and hair and makeup

trailer and she came in one morning all buzzing and shit now in Hostos of shut

the make up for any exciting things happened overnight had an email from

Scott rooted everywhere from Scotland and we did it do that Steve Jobs film

and Danny Boy things quite keen you might fly down for meeting in this kind

of goes on and going wow that's amazing so I think Michael Fassbender is

probably gonna play Steve Jobs been written by Aaron Sorkin I'm going oh my

god this is fantastic

shootin' San Francisco they start in a month it's really fast turnaround this

goes on at a couple of days go by and I said to get the latest installment every

morning in the

the same deal shut the door I get these sort of things going on and then finally

after three or four days of hearing about what's going on with her gay guy

finally say what's it about as she then described how it was constructed in

these three scenes and then I found myself saying what's the girls part

because of course I knew there had to be one and the clutch my shoulders I went

okay and we don't have started cooking up this plaque in the honestly in the

middle of nowhere with no wife in Australia of how somehow we were going

to get somebody to send me the script and so I knew at that point actually

that their part was on offer to somebody else and I just thought I had to leave

it alone

bide my time luckily she turned it down full so I made the most of this of this

this moment and I understand through my hat in the ring and just let it be known

that should they feel like sending the script my way I would be delighted to

have a little look and I'm lucky that they respond in the correct way and sent

me the script that got the picture of you in the wake ok got sent the picture

to me that was my plan

with with no tests just the picture and I thought was that Scott had found an

old picture of a young John Hoffman and I i just wrote back call Scott wrote

back to me do you know who that is and I Robert of course and who wrote back I

don't think you do and I wrote back its Joanna and he wrote back its Kate and I

wrote back that's Cate Blanchett got wind of what you hear one thing actually

after John are the roadrunner Hoffman saw the film she she sent me a very

lovely email saying how much she had enjoyed this and wanting me specifically

to parcel to Michael Fassbender how wonderful it was to see the real steady

and his war and so that's one thing that you know I wish I could never met her

yeah you know it that's for me that's the whole point of why this story our

story is different to previous ones or documentary as you know it does give you

access to a side of Steve Jobs that I think people really didn't know was

there because of how he has been so talk about it being notoriously difficult to

work for perfection is intimidate grand Magus etc but he wasn't he was a father

he was a human being and you wanna the character gives you access to that world

and and Daniel Michael

I spend a lot of time we all spent more time rehearsing every single scene but

focusing a lot on the physicality between the two of them do because we

wanted to make sure that it felt tangible you know we we set to Joanna

said before launching what would happen to have these frantic last five minutes

let's say for example what would happen to him well I mean mostly I couldn't

find him but then when we did you know and I think it would be a high five

hugs always you lots of hugs and so that was kind of a moment then realized that

you know that there were no boundaries between the two of them and actually

that opens up a whole platform for a relationship that can be in a much more

tactile and an unreal and and and I am rooted in you know and love and

affection you seem to be a Tony Award away from receiving the elusive come

back to Broadway if we could look forward to seeing you want

ok you do it I'll be in it and then I'll try when one of those but just when you

thought I would love that the Grammy you would think would be the most elusive I

put away from