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  • ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

  • >> Stephen: HOLY COW, ROBERT DE NIRO.

  • THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE SHOWS.

  • THIS IS WHY YOU WANT THIS SHOW, IS TO TALK WITH ROBERT DE NIRO.

  • >> OH.

  • >> Stephen: HEY, HEY.

  • ( CHEERS ) HEY, TOUGH GUY.

  • HOW ARE YOU?

  • ( LAUGHTER ) >> WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M

  • VERY HAPPY THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS SHOW.

  • >> Stephen: OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

  • ME, TOO!

  • ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE DOING THIS SHOW.

  • >> BECAUSE YOU'RE SMART, AND YOU'RE TERRIFIC.

  • YOU'RE FUNNY, YOU'RE GREAT.

  • ( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: WOW.

  • I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANY REASON I COULD LIKE ROBERT DE

  • NIRO MORE THAN I DID.

  • (LAUGHTER) BUT I SUDDENLY FOR SOME REASON

  • HAVE AFFECTION FOR YOU.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) HAPPY-- MERRY CHRISTMAS.

  • >> YOU, TOO, THANK YOU.

  • >> Stephen: DO YOU DO, LIKE, A CLASSIC ITALIAN CHRISTMAS, LIKE

  • SEVEN FISH OR WHATEVER THE THING IS?

  • >> I DO THINGS WITH FAMILY AND STUFF.

  • I TRY.

  • >> Stephen: YEAH.

  • >> YEAH.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) THAT'S IT.

  • >> Stephen: NOT TOO HARD, EVIDENTLY.

  • >> NO, I DO TRY HARD.

  • I DO TRY HARD.

  • >> Stephen: YOU DO TRY HARD?

  • >> I DO.

  • >> Stephen: DO YOU COOK FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY?

  • YOU HAVE SIX KIDS.

  • >> I DON'T COOK.

  • WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DO THAT FOR US.

  • >> Stephen: YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A RESTAURANT.

  • YOU HAVE A HOTEL.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: DOWN THERE IN TRIBECA.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: AND THE HOTEL IS COVERED WITH PAINTINGS, YOUR

  • DAD'S PAINTINGS ARE IN THERE.

  • >> YES, MY FATHER'S.

  • ( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: I-- I-- MY MOM MET

  • YOUR DAD OVER 30 YEARS AGO.

  • >> REALLY.

  • >> Stephen: IN CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA.

  • >> OKAY.

  • >> Stephen: HE HAD A SHOWING AS A PAINTER FOR PEOPLE WHO

  • DON'T KNOW.

  • THERE WAS A GALLERY SHOWING.

  • SHE WENT TO THE SHOWING AND THERE WAS A PARTY AFTERWARDS FOR

  • THE ARTIST AND SHE SAID THERE WAS A GUY SITTING IN THE CORNER,

  • NOBODY WAS TALKING TO HIM.

  • SHE SAT DOWN WITH HIM AND HAD A CONVERSATION.

  • SHE SAID, "I MET THE NICEST MAN TONIGHT.

  • HIS SON IS AN ACTOR, I THINK."

  • I SAID, "WHAT IS THE ACTOR?" SHE SAID DE-NETO?

  • I FELT LIKE I MET YOU AT THAT MOMENT.

  • YOU DID A DOCUMENTARY ABOUT YOUR DAD.

  • >> DI.

  • ON HBO.

  • YEAH.

  • I DID.

  • >> Stephen: WHY DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A DOCUMENTARY ABOUT YOUR

  • DAD?

  • >> WELL, I-- I JUST WANTED TO DO A DOCUMENTARY ON HIM BECAUSE

  • OF-- I HAD SOME FOOTAGE-- A GUY FOLLOWED HIM AROUND IN THE 70s

  • LEWIS SUPER 8 CAMERA.

  • I ALWAYS WANTED TO DO THAT.

  • AND AS TIME GOES ON, I WANTED TO REALLY FIND OUT MORE ABOUT BOTH

  • SIDES OF MY FAMILY.

  • SO I STARTED DOING-- HAVING PEOPLE DOING IT, AND THE PEOPLE

  • DID THE DOCUMENTARY, BARRY PELTZ.

  • I'M MISPRONOUNCING THE NAMES OF THE OTHER PEOPLE SO FORGIVE ME.

  • JANES ROSENTHAL, THEY DID THE DOCUMENTARY.

  • AND THEN I-- IT WAS GOING-- IT WASN'T INTENDED TO GO TO HBO.

  • BUT I JUST WANTED TO DO A DOCUMENTARY FOR MY FAMILY, MY

  • KIDS WHO WERE YOUNG AND DIDN'T MEET THEIR GRANDFATHER.

  • I KEPT HIS STUDIO.

  • I TOOK THEM THERE TO SEE IT.

  • AND SO ON.

  • BUT I-- THE DOCUMENTARY, AS I SAY, I WANTED TO DO.

  • I DID IT.

  • THEY LIKED IT.

  • THEY WANTED-- HBO CAN, AND THEY WANTED TO PUT IT ON, AND I SAID

  • FINE.

  • >> Stephen: THAT'S LOVELY.

  • YOU MADE IT FOR YOUR KIDS.

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: DID THEY LIKE IT?

  • DID THEY FEEL LIKE THEY WERE INTRODUCED TO THEIR GRANDFATHER.

  • >> THEY DON'T TELL ME THAT STUFF.

  • >> Stephen: REALLY?

  • THEY GO, "THAT'S NICE, DAD."

  • DID YOU TALK TO YOUR DAD ABOUT YOUR DESIRE TO BE AN ACTOR?

  • HE WAS ACE PAINTER.

  • DID YOU SAY, "I WANT TO DO SOMETHING MORE STABLE.

  • I WANT TO BE AN ACTOR."

  • >> NOT MUCH.

  • HE WOULD GO OFF ON STUFF ABOUT PAINTING, SOME I REMEMBER, SOME

  • I DON'T, I WISH I REMEMBERED MORE.

  • BUT YEAH.

  • IT'S NOT QUITE HOW I THINK IT IS WITH YOUR KIDS.

  • >> Stephen: NOTHING IS THE WAY YOU THINK IT IS WITH YOUR KIDS.

  • >> AS FAR AS COMMUNICATING AND DISCUSSING THINGS THAT ARE MAYBE

  • UNCOMFORTABLE FOR WHATEVER REASON.

  • IT'S JUST WHAT IT IS.

  • >> Stephen: SOMETIMES IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE TO DISCUSS

  • ANYTHING.

  • >> EXACTLY.

  • I'M UNCOMFORTABLE RIGHT HERE TALKING.

  • >> Stephen: I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S NOT-- TELL YOU WHAT.

  • I'M FINE WITH SILENCE.

  • LET'S NOT TALK FOR A MINUTE.

  • >> GOOD IDEA.

  • >> Stephen: LET'S JUST TAKE A SECOND HERE.

  • HOLD ON.

  • DO YOU WANT A DRINK?

  • >> I GOT ONE, THANKS.

  • >> Stephen: I GOT ANOTHER ONE FOR YOU HERE.

  • BECAUSE JENNIFER LAWRENCE, JENNIFER LAWRENCE, WHEN SHE WAS

  • ON THE SHOW THE OTHER NIGHT SHE SAID ASK HIM THE DIFFERENCE

  • BETWEEN A COLD MATEENY AND AN EXTREMELY COLD MARTINI.

  • >> THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

  • >> Stephen: AND LIKE A SAKE MARTINI.

  • >> THAT, TOO.

  • >> Stephen: I HAVE AN EXTREMELY COLD ONE FOR YOU RIGHT

  • HERE.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) LET'S NOT TALK FOR A SECOND.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) ( LAUGHTER )

  • >> OKAY.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) >> I'LL HOLD THAT SO IT DOESN'T

  • FALL OFF.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: TO SILENCE.

  • >> SILENCE.

  • ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: THAT COLD ENOUGH?

  • >> IT'S GOOD.

  • >> Stephen: TO A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU REPRESENT NEW YORK, YOU

  • KNOW.

  • YOU ARE LIKE AN ICON OF THE CITY ITSELF.

  • DOES IT BOTHER YOU AT ALL TO, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN AMERICA NOW,

  • DONALD TRUMP REPRESENTS NEW YORK?

  • ( LAUGHTER ) BECAUSE HE DOES.

  • HE'S KIND OF BECOME NEW YORK FOR PEOPLE.

  • >> WHAT DO YOU THINK?

  • ( LAUGHTER ) ( APPLAUSE )

  • ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( LAUGHTER )

  • ( APPLAUSE ) ( LAUGHTER )

  • ( APPLAUSE ) ( CLEARS THROAT )

  • ( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: SO DAVID O.

  • RUSSELL IS THE DIRECTOR OF THIS ONE, RIGHT?

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: YEAH.

  • YOU WORKED WITH HIM A FEW TIMES.

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: I HEAR HE YELLS LINES OUT LIKE, "TRY THIS LINE.

  • TRY THAT LINE."

  • >> YUP.

  • >> Stephen: DO YOU LIKE THAT?

  • >> I DO, I DO.

  • >> Stephen: SAY, "I LOVE IT."

  • >> WELL, I LOVE IT-- ( LAUGHTER )

  • ( APPLAUSE ) I DON'T-- I DON'T REALLY LOVE

  • IT.

  • >> Stephen: YOU DON'T LOVE IT, NO?

  • YOU KNOW WHAT?

  • I BELIEVED YOU, THOUGH.

  • YOU'RE THAT GOOD OF AN ACTOR.

  • I REALLY DID.

  • YOU HAVE DIRECTED YOURSELF.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: YOU HAVE WORKED WITH GREAT DIRECTORS AND YOU'RE

  • A DIRECTOR YOURSELF.

  • COULD YOU HELP ME OUT, I STARTED OUT AS AN A DIRECTOR.

  • >> I DID.

  • >> Stephen: BACK IN THE DAY.

  • I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME OF THAT DE NIRO, EAR DE-NETO-- MAGIC.

  • I'LL COME IN, WITH AN INTENTION.

  • >> ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.

  • >> Stephen: I'M GOING TO HAVE AN INTENTION, AND I'M GOING TO

  • TELL YOU-- LIKE I'M A DOCTOR, AND I'VE LOST THE PATIENT.

  • YOU'RE THE FAMILY.

  • AND I COME OUT, OKAY.

  • ( CLEARS THROAT."

  • I'M SORRY, WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) >> SO YOU'RE COMING OUT TO GIVE

  • US THE BAD NEWS?

  • >> >> Stephen: I'M IN THE

  • SCRUBS, THE BLOOD, EVERYTHING, LIKE THIS.

  • >> SO YOU CAME OUT AS IF YOU JUST TOLD US THAT OUR HAMPSTER

  • DIED.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) AND --

  • >> UH-HUH.

  • >> AND MAYBE-- MAYBE YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE EMPATHY FOR THE

  • FAMILY.

  • >> Stephen: IS THERE A TRICK?

  • IS THERE AN ACTING TRICK TO GET ME-- BECAUSE I WANT TO GET TO

  • THE EMOTIONALITY.

  • >> IT'S A FAMILY MEMBER WHO PASSED AWAY.

  • >> Stephen: YEAH.

  • >> YOU SAID, "I'M SORRY, WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD."

  • IT'S LIKE-- HELLO!

  • >> Stephen: I DON'T WANT TO OVER-APOLOGIZE.

  • ( LAUGHTER ).

  • >> BUT YOU HAVE TO SHOW A LITTLE MORE EMPATHY.

  • >> Stephen: OKAY, I'LL TRY A LITTLE MORE.

  • ALL RIGHT.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) >> NOW YOU'RE OVER-ACTING.

  • >> Stephen: I HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED.

  • I HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED ACTING YET.

  • WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

  • GIVE A GUY A CHANCE!

  • I'M PUTTING TOO MUCH-- I'M PUTTING TOO MUCH JEWELRY ON.

  • I'M ABOUT TO TAKE ONE PIECE OFF BEFORE I GO ACT.

  • LET ME TRY.

  • LET ME TRY IT AGAIN.

  • ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

  • >> I'M LISTENING.

  • >> Stephen: LET ME TRY IT AGAIN.

  • I'M SORRY.

  • I'M STILL SAYING THE LINE.

  • I'M STILL SAYING THE LINE!

  • >> THAT'S BETTER.

  • >> Stephen: BETTER, OKAY.

  • >> THAT'S BETTER.

  • IT'S NOT GREAT, BUT IT'S BETTER.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: DO YOU WANT TO TRY

  • IT?

  • >> NO, NO, I'M NOT GONNA-- I'M NOT --

  • >> GIVE ME A LINE READING.

  • >> NO, I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A LINE READING.

  • >> Stephen: ALL RIGHT, HOW ABOUT THIS ONE?

  • HOW ABOUT THE LAST ONE RIGHT THERE?

  • >> GO AHEAD.

  • >> Stephen: THIS IS TOO SANTAS TOO MANY.

  • OH, BY THE WAY, IT'S FROM A MOVIE CALLED "THREE SANT AS."

  • >> OKAY.

  • >> Stephen: OKAY?

  • ( LAUGHTER ) AND I'M-- I'M THE REAL SANTA AND

  • THE TWO OTHER GUYS WHO ARE PLAYING SANTA WITH ME, AND THOSE

  • GUYS AREN'T THE REAL SANTAS.

  • I'M THE REAL ONE, AND I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT'S TWO SANT AS TOO

  • MANY.

  • >> SO YOU'RE THE REAL SAPTA.

  • >> Stephen: I'M THE REAL SANTA.

  • >> WHO SAYS YOU'RE THE REAL SANTA.

  • >> Stephen: I SAY I'M THE REAL SANTA.

  • WHAT DO YOU MEAN, WHAT'S MY BACK-STORY.

  • I'M AN ETERNAL SPIRITUAL CREATURE WHO BRINGS HAPPINESS TO

  • CHILDREN.

  • s THAT'S MY BACKSTORY.

  • >> WHO CREATED THAT.

  • >> Stephen: HOCREATED THAT?

  • NOBODY CREATED SANTA.

  • HE'S A REAL PERSON, ROBERT.

  • >> I KNOW, BUT WHAT STORY IS THIS IN?

  • >> Stephen: IT'S A FILM I'M WORKING ON.

  • I'M WRITING THIS MOVIE CALLED "THREE SANTAS."

  • LISTEN, YOU'RE EITHER ATTACHED TO THE PROJECT OR YOU'RE NOT.

  • IN OR OUT.

  • ON THE BUS OR OFF THE BUS, BUT THE SANTA ARE LEAVING THE

  • STATION.

  • >> GOT IT.

  • I'M JUST TRYING TO GET BEHIND IT.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) SO-- BUT YOU WROTE THIS STORY.

  • >> Stephen: IT'S A TREATMENT.

  • I'M WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW.

  • >> SO YOUR THING IS YOU'RE SAYING THERE ARE TWO SANTAS TOO

  • MANY.

  • >> Stephen: RIGHT.

  • >> OR THIS IS SANTAS TOO MANY.

  • WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

  • THE OTHER TWO SANT AS, WHAT DID THEY DO?

  • >> Stephen: THEY ARE NOT REAL SANTAS IN THIS STORY.

  • THEY ARE, LIKE, DEPARTMENT STORE SANTAS, WHO END UP ACCIDENTALLY

  • GETTING ON SANTA'S SLAIG WHEN IT REALLY LANDS IN TIMES SQUARE,

  • AND THEY GO TO THE NORTH POLE.

  • AND NOW BECAUSE THEIR SANTA OUTFITS ARE SO GREAT, THEY'RE

  • CONFUSING THE ELVES.

  • AND MRS.-- MRS. CLAUSE CAN'T TELL WHICH OF US IS THEORY

  • PERSON, AND WE END UP WRESTLING AND I GO, "SHOOT THEM!

  • I'M THE REAL SANTA."

  • AGAIN, WE'RE STILL-- WE'RE STILL WORK ON IT.

  • ( LAUGHTER ).

  • >> NO, IT SOUNDS GHD.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) ( APPLAUSE )

  • IT SOUNDS GOOD.

  • BUT-- SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU'RE THE-- YOU'RE THE REAL

  • SANT.

  • >> Stephen: YEAH.

  • >> COMPARED TO THOSE TWO SANTAS.

  • >> Stephen: NOT REAL SANTAS.

  • >> AND WHY IS THAT?

  • WHAT GIVES YOU THAT EXTRA -- >> WHY I AM THE REAL SANTA?

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN THIS.

  • I'M THE REAL SANTA.

  • WHY ARE YOU THE REAL ROBERT DE NIRO?

  • >> WELL...

  • >> Stephen: I MEAN, THERE ARE FAKE ROBERT DE NIROS OUT THERE.

  • ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) HAVE YOU EVER-- I'LL TELL YOU

  • WHAT, I DO A PRETTY GOOD ROBERT DE NIRO.

  • YOU HAVE EVER SEEN MY ROBERT DE NIRO.

  • >> NO.

  • >> Stephen: SEE, I'M ROBERT DE NIRO.

  • SEE, I RUN THIS TOWN.

  • >> GOOD, NICE.

  • >> Stephen: YOU LIKE THAT?

  • >> VERY GOOD.

  • >> Stephen: PEOPLE LOVE THAT.

  • EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT'S MY DE NIRO.

  • >> OKAY, GOT IT.

  • I NEED ANOTHER DRINK.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) ( APPLAUSE )

  • ( CHEERS ) "JOY" IS IN THEATERS CHRISTMAS

  • DAY!

  • THE MAN IS THE GREAT ROBERT DE NIRO, EVERYONE.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

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