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  • >> Jon: WELCOME BACK.

  • SHE'S THE YOUNGEST PERSON EVER TO BE NOMINATED FOR A NOBEL

  • PEACE PRIZE.

  • HER BOOK IS CALLED I AM MALALA.

  • PLEASE WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM MALALA YOUSAFZAI.

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] NICE TO SEE YOU.

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

  • >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

  • IT'S AN HONOR FOR ME.

  • >> Jon: IT'S AN HONOR FOR US.

  • I KNOW ME.

  • THIS IS -- BY THE WAY, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THE SHOW.

  • NOTHING FEELS BETTER THAN MAKING YOU LAUGH.

  • I WILL SAY THAT.

  • I ENJOYED THAT VERY MUCH.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • >> Jon: I AM MALALA.

  • IT'S HONESTLY HUMBLING TO MEET YOU.

  • YOU ARE 16.

  • WHERE DID YOUR LOVE FOR EDUCATION COME FROM?

  • >> WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND THIS IS THE PART OF OUR HUMAN NATURE

  • THAT WE DON'T LEARN THE IMPORTANCE OF ANYTHING UNTIL

  • IT'S SNATCHED FROM OUR HANDS.

  • AND WHEN -- IN PAKISTAN WHEN WE WERE STOPPED FROM GOING TO

  • SCHOOL AT THAT TIME I REALIZED THAT EDUCATION IS VERY IMPORTANT

  • AND EDUCATION IS A POWER FOR WOMEN.

  • AND THAT'S WHY THE TERRORISTS ARE AFRAID OF EDUCATION.

  • THEY DON'T WANT WOMEN TO GET EDUCATION BECAUSE WOMEN WILL

  • BECOME MORE POWERFUL.

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] >> Jon: EXACTLY RIGHT.

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] WHEN DID THE -- WHEN DID THE

  • TALIBAN COME TO SWAT VALLEY?

  • BECAUSE BEFORE THEN YOU DESCRIBE IT AS A PARADISE OF SORTS.

  • >> A TALIBAN CAME IN 2004 BUT AT THAT TIME THEY WERE QUITE GOOD.

  • THEY DID NOT SHOW THE TERRORISM AND THEY DID NOT BLAST ANY

  • SCHOOL AT THAT TIME.

  • THEY STARTED WITH THE REAL TERRORISM IN 2007 THEY

  • BLASTED MORE THAN 400 SCHOOLS IN SWAT.

  • THEY SLAUGHTERED PEOPLE AND IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY 2009, THEY

  • USED TO SLAUGHTER EVEN TWO THREE PEOPLE EVERY NIGHT AND THEY

  • FLOGGED THEM AND WE HAVE SEEN THE BARBARIC SITUATION OF THE

  • 21ST CENTURY.

  • AND WE'VE SEEN LIKE THE CRUELTY AND WE'VE SEEN HARSH DAYS IN OUR

  • LIFE.

  • AND THOSE ARE REGARDED AS THE DARKEST DAYS OF OUR LIFE.

  • IT WAS REALLY HARD FOR US AT THAT TIME.

  • >> Jon: YOU DESCRIBE IN THE BOOK STILL, NO MATTER WHAT, THEY

  • TOOK THE SIGNS OFF THE SCHOOLS.

  • THEY WENT UNDERGROUND BUT THEY CONTINUED IN THE FACE OF -- YOU

  • SPOKE OUT PUBLICLY AGAINST THE TALIBAN.

  • WHAT GAVE YOU THE COURAGE TO CONTINUE THIS?

  • >> YOU KNOW, MY FATHER WAS A GREAT ENCOURAGEMENT FOR ME

  • BECAUSE HE SPOKE OUT FOR WOMENS' RIGHTS, FOR GIRLS' EDUCATION.

  • AT THAT TIME I SAID WHY SHOULD I WAIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE?

  • WHY SHOULD I BE LOOKING TO THE GOVERNMENT, TO THE ARMY, THAT

  • THEY WOULD HELP US?

  • WHY DON'T I RAISE MY VOICE?

  • WHY DON'T WE SPEAK FOR OUR RIGHTS?

  • I STARTED WRITING DIARY.

  • I SPOKE ON EVERY MEDIA CHANNEL I COULD.

  • I RAISE MY VOICE IN EVERY PLATFORM I COULD.

  • I SAID I NEED TO TELL THE WORLD WHAT IS HAPPENING IN SWAT AND I

  • NEED TO TELL THE WORLD THAT SWAT IS SUFFERING FROM TERRORISM AND

  • WE NEED TO FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISM.

  • >> Jon: WHEN DID YOU REALIZE THAT THE TALIBAN HAD MADE YOU A

  • TARGET?

  • >> WHEN IN 2012 I WAS WITH MY FATHER AND SOMEONE CAME AND TOLD

  • US HAVE YOU SEEN ON GOOGLE IF YOU SEARCH YOUR NAME THAT THE

  • TALIBAN HAS THREATENED YOU.

  • I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT.

  • I SAID IT'S NOT TRUE.

  • EVEN AFTER WHEN WE SAW IT I WAS NOT WORRIED ABOUT MYSELF THAT

  • MUCH I WAS WORRIED ABOUT MY FATHER.

  • WE THOUGHT THAT THE TALIBAN ARE NOT THAT MUCH CRUEL THAT

  • THEY WOULD KILL A CHILD.

  • I STARTED THINKING ABOUT THAT AND THINKING THE TALIB

  • WOULD COME AND HE WOULD KILL ME.

  • I THOUGHT WHAT WOULD YOU DO MALALA, I THOUGHT TAKE A SHOE

  • AND HIT HIM.

  • BUT I THOUGHT IF YOU HIT A TALIB WITH YOUR SHOE THEN

  • THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND THE TALIB.

  • YOU MUST NOT TREAT OTHERS WITH CRUELTY AND HARSHLY.

  • YOU MUST FIGHT OTHERS BUT THROUGH

  • PEACE, DIALOGUE AND EDUCATION.

  • THEN I TELL HIM HOW IMPORTANT EDUCATION IS AND I EVEN WANT

  • EDUCATION FOR YOUR CHILDREN AS WELL AND I WILL TELL HIM THAT'S

  • I WANT TO TELL YOU NOW DO WHAT YOU WANT.

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] I KNOW YOUR FATHER IS BACK STAGE

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] I KNOW YOUR FATHER IS BACK STAGE

  • AND HE'S VERY PROUD OF YOU.

  • BUT WOULD HE BE MAD IF I ADOPTED YOU?

  • BECAUSE YOU SURE ARE SWELL.

  • COULD YOU STICK AROUND?

  • I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SWAT VALLEY AND WHAT IT

  • WAS LIKE GROWING UP THERE AND HOW PEOPLE CAN GET INVOLVED

  • THROUGH THE MALALA FUND AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS?

  • DO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME?

  • >> YES, YEAH, SURE.

  • >> Jon: I AM MALALA IS ON SHELVES NOW.

  • VISIT TO THE MALALA FUND.

  • MALALA YOUSAFZAI.

  • >> WONDERFUL TO LISTEN TO YOU TALK.

  • WE'RE BACK.

  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BOOK I AM MALALA.

  • IT'S ON BOOKSHELVES RIGHT NOW.

  • YOUR LOVE OF SCHOOL REMINDS ME SO MUCH OF MY CHILDREN.

  • OKAY.

  • MAYBE NOT.

  • [ LAUGHTER ] THE PEOPLE OF SWAT VALLEY WHEN

  • THE TALIB FIRST CAME, THEY THOUGHT, THEY ARE BRINGING

  • ORDER.

  • THEY ARE BRINGING SERVICES.

  • THEY ESTABLISHED A COURT THAT WAS FASTER THAN PAKISTANI

  • COURTS.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Jon: AND THE PEOPLE RESPONDED.

  • WHEN DID THAT BEGIN TO TURN?

  • >> WHEN THE TALIBAN CAME, THEY WERE TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE

  • AND THEY WERE JUST MISUSING THE NAME OF ISLAM.

  • THEY WERE TELLING PEOPLE WE WILL SET UP ANOTHER COURT FOR YOU AND

  • PROVIDE YOU JUSTICE ON TIME.

  • USUALLY COURTS IN PAKISTAN, PEOPLE DIE AND THEIR CASE IS NOT

  • YET RESOLVED IN THE COURT.

  • BUT THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE COURTS OF PAKISTAN.

  • SO PEOPLE JUST SAID IF THE TALIBAN ARE DOING IT, WHY

  • DON'T WE SUPPORT THEM.

  • THEN THEY WERE THAT MUCH CRUELER WHEN THEY STARTED SLAUGHTERING

  • PEOPLE. THEY EVEN BLASTED A GENERATOR OF ELECTRICITY.

  • AND IT WAS THE MOVE RAMADAN IN WHICH WE DON'T EAT ON THE DAY.

  • IN WHICH WE DON'T DRINK FOR THE WHOLE DAY.

  • THEY BLASTED ELECTRICITY GENERATORS

  • PROVIDING ELECTRICITY TO THE WHOLE CITY.

  • WE CANNOT HAVE WATER BECAUSE ELECTRICITY IS RELATED TO WATER

  • SUPPLY AS WELL.

  • PEOPLE WERE SITTING IN THE DARK.

  • PEOPLE COULD NOT BUY ELECTRICITY GENERATORS.

  • PEOPLE WERE SITTING IN THE LIGHT OF CANDLES AND PEOPLE WERE JUST

  • DYING OF THIRST AT THE TIME.

  • MY FATHER IS A GREAT FATHER BECAUSE HE BOUGHT GENERATOR FOR

  • THE SCHOOL TO CREATE ELECTRICITY AND PROVIDE WATER TO THE STREET

  • AND THAT COMMUNITY.

  • BUT STILL MANY PEOPLE WERE SUFFERING FROM THE HARD

  • SITUATION.

  • AND OTHER THAN THAT, OUR FREEDOM WAS TAKEN FROM US.

  • >> Jon: YES.

  • >> THE WOMEN'S FREEDOM.

  • WE COULD NOT GO TO MARKET.

  • WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO GO TO SCHOOL.

  • WE WERE JUST KEPT IMPRISONED.

  • WE WERE LIMITED TO THE FOUR WALLS OF OUR HOUSE.

  • WOMENS' RIGHTS WERE DENIED AT THAT TIME AND THAT'S WHY I SPOKE

  • BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN EQUALITY AND I BELIEVE THERE'S NO

  • DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.

  • I EVEN BELIEVE THAT A WOMAN IS MORE POWERFUL THAN MAN.

  • >> Jon: WHAT, WHOA WHAT?

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

  • WHOA!

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] YOU KNOW, MALALA, THIS WAS GOING

  • SO WELL.

  • [ LAUGHTER ] YOU WERE DOING SO BEAUTIFULLY.

  • [ LAUGHTER ] AND THEN SUDDENLY BAM!

  • [LAUGHTER] IT'S -- THIS IS THE PART THAT

  • THEY BEGAN TO SAY YOU CANNOT DANCE.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Jon: YOU CANNOT -- THE WOMEN CANNOT DO THESE THINGS.

  • YOU SAY THAT MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE THIS IS A WRONG INTERPRETATION

  • OF ISLAM, OF THE KORAN.

  • DO YOU -- WHY HAVE THE TALIBAN AND THESE MORE EXTREME GROUPS

  • BEEN ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL?

  • IS IT THE FEAR THAT THEY BRING TO THESE TOWNS?

  • DO THEY -- IS THAT WHY THE PEOPLE HAVE HAD

  • A HARD TIME THROWING IT OFF?

  • >> THE FIRST THING IS THAT THEY WERE REALLY CRUEL. THEY HAD

  • GUNS IN THEIR HANDS.

  • IF I HAVE A GUN IN MY HAND AND I TELL YOU SOMETHING DO THIS, YOU

  • HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S FOR YOUR LIFE.