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  • >>Rich Fernandez: Hello everyone.

  • >>audience: Hi.

  • >>Rich Fernandez : Welcome. I'm Rich Fernandez from the Learning and Development Team here

  • at Google. So about six months ago we wrote a letter to Eckhart Tolle inviting him to

  • come here to Google. "Eckhart, dude, come to Google," we said.

  • [laughter]

  • Well, something along those lines. We make some of the world's most valued and most used

  • technology. We aspire to do epic stuff and to make a difference in the world. And yet

  • even as we create this dazzling technology, we wanna be sure to pay attention to our own

  • inner technology. We wanna ask ourselves the searching and far ranging questions about

  • how we're getting on in the world. As we optimize our technology how can we also optimize our

  • lives so that we can be our best selves?

  • All of this is a lot easier said than done. We operate in a hyper-connected world always

  • on and we go at it with great pace and intensity. The urgent question of the day is how we can

  • take an intelligent approach to our work and our lives with all of the demands of our time

  • and attention.

  • Amidst this flood of information how can we discern the signal from the noise in order

  • to access and act on what is most essential to each of us?

  • Eckhart Tolle takes a refreshingly contemporary approach to the question of what it means

  • to live a meaningful and inspired life and with great intelligence. And in so being,

  • how we can each experience a great sense of clarity, peace, and the joy of being alive.

  • So we're very lucky that Eckhart accepted our invitation and said yes to come here today.

  • He knows our ethos that we have a profound interest in being our best selves and doing

  • meaningful and inspired work. We seek to change the world for the better and he understands

  • that we understand that in order to transform the world we must first render the necessary

  • transformation within ourselves.

  • So Eckhart is here today to assist and suggest with some things for us to consider.

  • Eckhart Tolle has written bestselling books including The Power of Now and A New Earth

  • and they've sold millions of copies worldwide and have been translated into 33 languages.

  • He's widely regarded as one of the foremost teachers on the subject of wisdom and conscious

  • living.

  • Joining Eckhart in conversation today is our Vice President of Product, Bradley Horowitz.

  • Now when we proposed to Bradley that he might engage in a dialog with Eckhart as part of

  • this tech talk he was really excited which makes sense because Bradley's cool like that.

  • [laughter]

  • Bradley also helped create Google+, Google Apps, and Google+ which we all love.

  • So without further ado please join me in welcoming Eckhart Tolle and Bradley Horowitz as they

  • discuss what it means to live with meaning, purpose, and wisdom in the digital age.

  • [applause]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Thank you.

  • [applause]

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: So on behalf of Google and all the many Googlers here and those tuning

  • in from our overflow rooms, welcome it's great to have you here. And it's very special to

  • have you here. I understand that you don't often visit corporations and so this has been

  • a journey we've taken together over the course of the day.

  • Eckhart had a moment to meet with some of us earlier and we found that really valuable.

  • And one of the things we discussed this morning was wisdom and the difference between information

  • and wisdom. Google has a mission to organize the world's information and I think if you

  • think about the hierarchy there's signal and data and information and knowledge and at

  • the very top of the pyramid is wisdom. And I wondered if you could comment a little bit

  • on what you understand to be the difference between information and wisdom.

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Good question. Let's kind of set that aside for just one moment

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: Let's do that.

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: to say how happy I am to be here, how impressed I am by what I have

  • seen, and by the people who work here, and the general energy field in the company. And

  • if you have come, the many young people here, if you've come straight from college then

  • I'm sure you don't know how lucky you are until --

  • [laughter]

  • you start working for another company.

  • [laughter]

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: [laughs]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Perhaps everybody who works here one would, as they would say in India

  • "You must have very good Karma to be working here."

  • openness of people that's reflected in the structure of the company, the way things are

  • arranged, the little rooms that you have for quietness, for meditation, the cafeterias

  • and all that is just beyond belief so --

  • I also experience an openness in the people who work here and far less ego because many

  • companies are still predominately run by very big egos. I'm not saying that everybody here's

  • entirely free of ego yet, but --

  • [laughter]

  • much less so than in many other places. So it's wonderful to be here and if my book sales

  • ever decline and I need a job --

  • [laughter]

  • I hope you will, you probably won't but --

  • [laughter]

  • because first of all I have no computer skills --

  • [laughter]

  • and secondly I'm too old --

  • [laughter]

  • since the average age here is probably about 30.

  • So your question was important?

  • [laughter]

  • I remember it, I remember it.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: I don't. [laughs]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • Knowledge, information, and wisdom, how do they relate?

  • Of course with the technological revolution, information revolution, digital revolution,

  • whatever you call it there's an enormous amount of knowledge available to everybody. Almost

  • the whole of the world's knowledge and there's the interconnectedness between people and

  • so on --

  • that's all very good of course to have all that accessible to you. There's a danger though

  • that you get drowned in too much information and too much knowledge. And by drowned I mean

  • that the mind gets bombarded with an excess of input and therefore you miss something

  • that is essential for a human life to be truly fulfilled and that is the place of peace,

  • inner peace, or stillness; the place that one could describe as the source of all intelligence

  • that many people don't actually don't even realize exists within them.

  • So I'd like to just talk briefly about that, that really we're talking about the core of

  • what spirituality means. Spirituality is not having a particular belief structure, is not

  • subscribing to a particular set of thoughts. Spirituality is discovering, a dimension within

  • yourself, that is we can either say deeper or higher than the continuous movement of

  • thinking.

  • And of course all this information and knowledge is experienced in you as thought. So the thinking

  • mind has always been active for many thousands of years in humans but now it's even more

  • active than before because it get energized by the incredible increase in input. Before

  • all you had was simple, the simple sensory input in your immediate surroundings then

  • later came books, so you have the added input of that. And then gradually came the mass

  • media, and now this incredible revolution of information technology, computers, and

  • so on.

  • So it energizes that movement of thought that's taking place in every human which in itself

  • is not necessarily a bad thing. It only becomes a bad thing and self-destructive thing if

  • that is all you experience inside you in your consciousness. If all you ever experience

  • is that, I call it sometimes mental noise, then you --

  • begin to derive your identity from the thoughts in your head; what the thoughts tell you about

  • yourself, and you are trapped in that identity that is based on identification with thinking.

  • All spiritual teachings point to the possibility of finding something in you that is deeper

  • than thinking; a space, a stillness that's always there.

  • And the informational, excess of information you can only successfully deal with that if

  • you have a balance in your consciousness between using your mind to absorb information, to

  • put out new information, to work on the information that you have taken in, input, if you have

  • a balance between that and something that is deeper than thought in you.

  • And really instead of giving you new knowledge here I don't want to do that because I don't

  • want to add to the knowledge that you're taking in anyway, it's far more than you ever need.

  • So instead of giving you knowledge here I'd like to suggest that you experience at first

  • hand in yourself that place of, I call it sometimes a presence, where you are alert,

  • conscious, but not

  • thinking.

  • And every creative person has some access to that realm. If you have a truly creative

  • insight you have to go to that place that is deeper than analytical thinking. Analytic

  • thinking itself or processing information is not creative. So even to find a creative,

  • a new solution to a problem in your life requires some creative insight. So whether it's a problem

  • in your work situation or your personal life or something that you need to build or do

  • and you have come to a dead end or you want to create something, whatever it is a work

  • of art or a new system for the computer, I don't the expressions for that, you need to

  • go to the place where creativity arises. And every human who brings, who is creative has

  • some access to that even if they don't know it.

  • But it's not only the, it's not only the place where creativity arises, it's also the place

  • that gives sanity to your life to find a place of stillness, peace, aliveness, where you're

  • not burdened by most, a lot of the time, unnecessary mental noise. So when you do start thinking

  • again it actually can be more productive.

  • So where is that place? How do you find that place? If it's there in everyone how do I

  • realize that within myself? That's really the question.

  • I can just suggest to you three or four entry points into that state of consciousness and

  • after I've done that we can carry on the conversation. [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • A very simple entry point, and this is why my first book is called The Power of Now,

  • is the realization that your entire life consists of the present moment and only the present

  • moment ever.

  • Now most people perhaps they in some abstract way they know that but they cannot sense or

  • feel the truth of that and I'd like to invite you to actually sense and feel the truth of

  • what I'm saying which not, even if there's a great philosopher here he cannot possibly

  • argue, he or she cannot argue with this statement that whatever you experience ever is present

  • moment. Your entire life unfolds in the present moment; that's all you ever have.

  • Most people don't live as if this were true they don't, they live as if the opposite almost

  • were true, as if the future moment were more important always than the next one. And that,

  • that happens because of excessive identification with thinking because usually the thoughts

  • are about the next thing, the next and the next or what could happen or might happen.

  • So if you can just come to this realization, "Well, this is all I ever have and ever experienced

  • is this moment this is undoubtedly true, there is nothing else ever," and at that moment

  • when you fully realize that you can only realize that an alertness arises in you. "Wow." You

  • become alert to one could almost call it the presence of the power of this moment, the

  • power of life itself in this present moment which consists of, yes it consists of sense

  • perceptions --

  • it also consists of, well, let's look what is this present moment? This present moment

  • is this room, what we perceive here visually, what we see, hear, , the lights, the totality

  • of the room. So let's become alert so that we can really perceive that and be on to that

  • to which we perceive in this room. Is there anything else about, that we could call the

  • present moment?

  • Well, if you look deeply enough, yes, there is also the inner energy field in your body

  • that you can actually feel, that you're alive in your legs, your arms, your feet. It's also

  • part of the present moment to sense the energy field that pervades the physical body that's

  • also something you can feel.

  • So there's external sense perceptions and there's the feeling the aliveness inside your

  • body. And if you're totally in thinking you can't feel that at all; you don't feel alive

  • you're only alive in the upper story of the house, your head. The entire house you don't

  • inhabit then. [chuckles] So you inhabit, you begin to inhabit the entire body. This becomes

  • part of your experience of the present moment so sense perceptions yes.

  • And there is an aliveness even to artificial light 'cause you might say, "I prefer sunlight

  • okay, me too, but there's a beauty and aliveness even to artificial light. And there's a beauty

  • and aliveness that is usually overlooked that's in the texture of this chair here or whatever

  • you're wearing and certainly the flowers.

  • And suddenly you become aware of that and that's not all yet we're just going into the

  • present moment. So you have that externals and you suddenly appreciate the aliveness

  • of all the things that surround you.

  • Other people have to take acids to get there.

  • [laughter]

  • So you don't need that.

  • [laughter]

  • You know with acid people sometimes they look at a teapot and they say, "Wow --

  • [laughter]

  • oh my God."

  • [laughter]

  • But you don't need to do that just be present and then you appreciate the beauty even of

  • a mass-produced teapot.

  • [laughter]

  • If it's handmade and hand painted even nicer, but even a mass-produced teapot has a presence

  • there, it's there and it's an alive energy field. Every physicist will tell you it's

  • not a dead teapot, its molecules and atoms in continuous movement.

  • Everything is vitally alive and you miss that if you're totally trapped in the mental noise

  • all the time, taking in information. Present moment, sense perceptions. So the inner energy

  • field of the body and then what else is there to the present moment?

  • Okay then you have to go become really alert and the next thing that you notice about the

  • present moment is really the deeper level of the present moment it's not something that

  • arises in your consciousness as does the table and this room and even the inner energy field

  • of the body. These are all things, objects that arise in your consciousness but if you

  • go deeper even into the present moment what you encounter is the most incredible secret

  • of human life which is you encounter the fact that --

  • at the bottom of it all you are conscious.

  • There is the presence that you are without which you couldn't perceive anything; you

  • couldn't perceive this room and you couldn't feel the body without that consciousness that

  • you essentially are which Jesus by the way called the light of the world. He said to

  • his Disciples, "You are the light of the world." And these Disciples were not special people

  • they were fishermen so certainly He wasn't telling them that they are VIPs.

  • [laughter]

  • They were the opposite of VIPs. And yet he said, "You are the light of the world." He

  • also said it about himself but he also said it about others.

  • And so you suddenly discover that essentially at the most essential level the essence of

  • who you are is consciousness but consciousness isn't something you can say, "Ah, there it

  • is," because consciousness cannot become an object to itself, it's the eternal subject,

  • the I am that I am of the Old Testament when God is asked for His or Her name God says,

  • "I am that I am." That is the essential identity of all beings.

  • So when we talk about the present moment we talk about different levels of the present

  • moment from sense perceptions to the feeling of aliveness in the inner body to the realization

  • that ultimately what we call the present moment and the light of consciousness are one and

  • the same because that's the thing that always remains.

  • That consciousness you can sense it as yourself right now the presence that you are even beyond

  • physical presence and that is the alertness, that is the realization that is sometimes

  • called awakening. And that is the place of also of stillness where you get out of the

  • mental noise and that is the source place of creativity, that is intelligence, that

  • is non-conceptual, its primordial intelligence.

  • And if you touch that in yourself then at first it's glimpses, it's brief realizations

  • and then gradually integrated into your daily life then you can live from that place, the

  • source, and be not only a more productive human being but also a more peaceful human

  • being because then you no longer contribute to the conflict in this world because the

  • conflict is only created by all those humans who don't know that level in themselves; they

  • don't know who they are.

  • And again, to quote Jesus again on the cross He said, "Forgive them; they know not what

  • they do." And why do they know not what they do? They don't know who they are essentially.

  • So this, I've talked about this in the hope that as I'm speaking there is an experience

  • in you of really of the depths of the present moment because the present moment, people

  • think it's present moment is what happens. And of course because what happens changes

  • all the time people say there are many present moments. If you look more deeply of course

  • there are not many present moments there's only ever this present moment, there's only

  • this ever. [chuckles] So there're not many present moments there's only the space of

  • this moment.

  • So there's what happens in it and there is the space in which it happens and that space

  • is consciousness and that is who you are. And when you realize that you become free

  • of the false sense of self that when your mind tells you something about who you are

  • which has to do with your history and your successes or your failures or what other people

  • tell you who you are, little present.

  • So that's really basically the essence of spirituality which is very simple, but for

  • some reason it's not taught at school. All kinds of inessential things are taught at

  • school --

  • [laughter]

  • but what really matters, the very foundation of human life, and it's not some belief structure.

  • I'm not saying indoctrinate, children must believe, it's not believe at all it's an experience,

  • it's a realization. That's what needs to be taught, that needs to be subject number one

  • at school: who am I? And everything else is easy once you have that.

  • [laughter]

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: Well I'm not sure I have any more questions.

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • [applause]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: [laughs]

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: We'll press on. [laughs]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: I wanna ask you about the work that we do at Google. And if you

  • look at any given webpage it's almost a model of the mind; there's all of these jumping

  • off points; you can jump to this story or that story or Hawaii vacation or you can jump

  • around so easily. And in fact the product I work on Google+ allows me not only to examine

  • the contents of my own mind but all of these people's minds as well in a flood of a stream

  • coming at me. And I'm wondering if the real reason you've chosen to come to Google today

  • is 'cause we're actively working against you and [laughs] --

  • [laughter]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: you've come to help us get over that. But more seriously do you think

  • there's a place for technology and how do you make sense of the work that we're doing

  • and how it impacts people's attention in relation to what you just described, sort of transcending

  • the mind and going to a deeper place?

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Well it's, the technology is quite miraculous of course; in itself it's

  • neither good nor bad. The --

  • I only recently, which means like two or three years, started using it, I came to it very

  • late. I --

  • I still haven't developed an addiction to it as many people have.

  • There is incredible possibilities here with that technology and there's also a great danger

  • with that technology. It could lead to contribute to the awakening, and an example of that is

  • our gathering here which people can apparently see on their screen. So this is just one example

  • of how this technology can contribute to spreading a vital message. It goes far beyond any ideology

  • or anything like that. Same thing the work I did with Oprah some years ago for the first

  • time, the Webinar as they call it, went out and the first time the whole system broke

  • down because so many people tuned in and then second week it started to work.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: We don't have that problem.

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • So there are incredible possibilities also for humans to connect with each other, well

  • that's another topic whether they're really connecting as human beings. But also the fact

  • that the flow of information is no longer monopolized by the powerful few corporations

  • but everybody can participate in that free flow of information, having led already to

  • all these things the Arab Spring and all those things that have been happening recently;

  • all that is potentially good.

  • The danger of course is, and again that connects with what I've been talking about earlier,

  • that you get more and more inundated with information, with knowledge, with mind stuff

  • so that you more and more lose a deeper sense of connectedness with being, with presence,

  • that deeper level that I talked about just now. And that would then lead to increasing

  • confusion in your mind and an inability really to create anything new anymore; you would

  • be just trapped in the mental, continuously increasing mental noise.

  • And if you look at people in this field who do come up with something really creative

  • that is new they all have some access to that deeper level in themselves as I'm sure many

  • of you have, and quite a few people don't even know that they have access to that, it

  • just happens. They become still and they go for a moment or a few, they go --

  • and you connect with a power inside you. You can actually feel the power of consciousness

  • inside you as you become still. And there's no mind movement in that it's a kind of listening

  • that opens up.

  • And then after while the mind starts working again and it's very often then you have an

  • answer or then you have the creative solution or some new insight. But if you don't go there

  • anymore, if you get continuously drawn only into the noise, the mental noise, then you

  • lose touch with your own power and you become more and more confused. And it could easily

  • happen that what now looks like miraculous technology could, within two generations,

  • could lead, I'm not saying that it will and we are here now so there's hope, it could

  • lead to a complete breakdown of civilization. [chuckles]

  • So here you have this miraculous technology and two generations later all humans walk

  • around like zombies --

  • [laughter]

  • It could happen, it's an idea for a science fiction novel perhaps, but it could happen

  • because it's neither good nor bad. If we are not careful it could draw us in to such an

  • extent that we lose ourselves in our own creation; that we have created something that's an old

  • mythological theme. We create a kind of entity that becomes a monster and then our own creation

  • devours us; that could happen, it doesn't have to happen.

  • So this is I believe why I've come here as a little warning: [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • if you're not careful then what looks so wonderful here could turn out to be a monster, but it

  • doesn't have to be; it could turn into something wonderful that contributes to the awakening

  • of humanity. We need to recognize its dangers; the danger is that this screen that you look

  • at of course connects with your mind, it links into your mind and then you link into the

  • collective mind on the screen and it grows and grows, the noise grows and grows and you

  • become more and more confused and completely uncentered.

  • [laughter]

  • You walk around, I mean youngsters who are so addicted to their screen, they can't give

  • attention anymore to another human being: to their parents or others. There's always

  • something okay --

  • what?

  • [laughter]

  • I have an iPhone I have to hide this here.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: What?

  • That's see why it's so vital for humans if you work with your screen all the time then

  • what do you do? You have to recognize the danger and you have to give yourself some

  • space many times during the day even if it's just for one minute at a time. Give yourself

  • space so that a balance arises between that interaction with the screen, which is the

  • collective mind, and connectedness with being is a way we could put it.

  • So I suggest, I sometimes suggest to people to put a flower or a potted flower next to

  • their computer screen so that from time to time they look at that for half a minute,

  • even a few seconds, and really look or learn to take a breath, a conscious in and out breath,

  • let's call that a mini meditation.

  • Meditation is very helpful for many people, not for everybody. If you find it hard to

  • meditate use mini meditations; one mini meditation is one conscious breath. What does that mean,

  • conscious breath? It means you look away from the screen, if you can look at something natural,

  • a plant or the sky, but if not that's fine, look at a light, artificial light whatever

  • it is, and breathe in and follow the breath with your attention into the body and then

  • follow it with your attention as it flows out of the body. What does that do? It takes

  • attention away from thought and puts it into the body. In other words, it creates a space

  • in your consciousness because while you are following the breath with your attention you're

  • not thinking and when you're not thinking but you haven't gone to sleep, you've created

  • a space in your consciousness and there, that's it. So that's just one conscious breath occasionally,

  • two is even better or three, but that's fine --

  • [laughter]

  • that's enough. And of course that's the oldest, one of the oldest forms of meditation is conscious

  • breaths, probably already recommended by the Buddha who is supposed to have said, "Just

  • be conscious of your breaths for one hour and you'll be totally enlightened." But if

  • you miss just one you have to go back to the beginning.

  • [laughter]

  • And feeling the inner body, if you don't have, nature is very helpful to take you out of

  • your mind although many people walk around nature and they're still in their minds, but

  • if you can interact with the natural world: the trees, the park, the beach, the mountain,

  • the forest walking occasionally and pay attention, truly pay attention to what you see without

  • interpreting, that can bring you into connectedness with being and into the present moment.

  • Your dog, wonderful thing I noticed here is people are allowed to bring their dogs. That

  • makes an enormous difference to the energy field, not to every home and to the company

  • when you interact with a dog there's a moment when you're not actually thinking that's why

  • it feels so good because you know the dog is not thinking about you.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: [laughs]

  • Although you might have heard the saying, "Please, God, make me into the person that

  • my dog thinks I am."

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: The fact is the dog isn't thinking --

  • [laughter]

  • that's why the dog relates to you with unconditional love because a dog doesn't judge you and you

  • know that the dog doesn't judge you and therefore the dog does not stimulate your thinking mind,

  • it actually frees you for a moment from your thinking mind.

  • That's why people love, many people unless you have a phobia that's a different matter,

  • most people love interacting with a dog, cats also, but let's talk about dogs because they're

  • here in the company.

  • So when you pet a dog or even just look at a dog and their tail wags there's something

  • liberating there for a moment and that's why humans respond to the dog and you go, "Ah."

  • If you look very closely inside yourself at that moment, there's a moment when you're

  • not thinking when you're interacting with a dog, unless you're so obsessed with your

  • mind that you immediately judge the dog.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: That can happen too --

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: I've met people like that. But for most people, it's a liberating thing

  • because the dog is nature; in its beauty and aliveness has not arrived yet at the stage

  • of thought that humans have had to go through so you experience that aliveness of nature

  • in the dog.

  • So okay you have that and if you don't have a dog that's fine too, you can feel nature

  • as the inner energy field in your body, and you can even practice on the computer screen.

  • While you're looking at something, see if you can be in two dimensions at the same time:

  • while you are looking, don't do it at first with something extremely demanding, but just

  • when there's something kind of routine thing you're checking on the screen, and see if

  • while you're looking you can feel the inner energy field of your body as you do perhaps

  • now in the background so to speak.

  • I recommend it as a kind of meditation; you can practice it when the screen, nothing's

  • happening on the screen first or put a flower on the screen [chuckles] and look at that

  • and see if you can at the same time feel the aliveness in your energy field that keeps

  • you rooted in being and then you don't lose yourself totally in the collective minds that

  • comes at your through the screen.

  • That's a beautiful, I highly recommend that; put a little reminder on your computer screen,

  • a little thing that says, "Inner body," or whatever else you want to call it so that

  • you remember and you will find you're more energized, it's extremely energizing to sense

  • that, to be connected with that. So one could call that the balance between doing and being

  • in your life because thinking is part of doing; doing is not just what you do physically,

  • doing, thinking is also a kind of doing but the human needs the two dimensions being and

  • doing and if balance is lost you could lose it in being but that's not the danger of our

  • civilization.

  • There may be some Indian yogis who get lost in being and don't want to get up anymore

  • because they're so happy in being that there's no need to get up anymore even put food in

  • their mouths, that's fine. I'm not talking to them, I would have to have a different

  • message for them.

  • [laughter]

  • But I'm talking to this civilization people who are lost or who get too much doing, which

  • really is thinking, there the balance is between being and doing, doesn't have to be 50/50,

  • 20 percent [chuckles] it's hard put a figure to it but --

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: We like to measure things.

  • [laughter]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: I know, yeah.

  • [laughter]

  • So 25 percent being, 75 percent doing and you're doing very well.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: [laughs]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Even 10 percent being would make your life much easier and much more enjoyable.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: I wanna remind the Googlers this dual presence technique of being and

  • doing, please don't do that while coding on the GFS, BigTable, or Megastore systems.

  • [laughter]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: I don't know what you're talking about.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: Inside joke.

  • [laughter]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: [laughs]

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: I do have a question: you've talked, I think most of us are engineers

  • and technologists and we live a lot in the realm of thoughts and ideas and in our head

  • and not necessarily in our being. My wife has also described to me these things called

  • feelings --

  • [laughter]

  • that some people have as well. [chuckles] Could you speak about feelings of anger and

  • frustration and happiness and how they relate to this experience of being?

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Yes. Sometimes words are used in a loose way and sometimes what I just

  • described, I sometimes call it feeling the inner body, that word is a very vague word

  • so it can be used to describe what we were just talking about, feeling the inner body.

  • But then there's a different kind of feeling and that's feeling an emotion for example

  • that arises. So there's basically there's thoughts, let's look at your entire life,

  • your entire life consists of basically sense perceptions, thoughts, and emotions. I think

  • that's about it, right? Sense perceptions, thoughts, emotions put them together and mix

  • them up, that's my life.

  • [laughter]

  • Okay. So that applies to everybody. Now the particular mixture differs from person to

  • person. What exactly goes into the sense perceptions and the thoughts and emotions varies slightly

  • from person to person, but basically that's the mixture.

  • Now the question is you can't escape that of course that's normal life. Is there anything

  • else? Sense perceptions, thoughts, emotions, okay, let's see; there must be something else

  • because how do I know that there's sense perceptions, thoughts, and emotions? Is the ability to

  • recognize, to have a sense perception based on thinking? No, because to have a sense perception

  • you don't really need to think you can just look and see.

  • So what else is there and this is a key thing, there is something else about sense perceptions,

  • thoughts, and emotions which is we could call it an awareness that there is a sense perception,

  • there is an emotion, there is a thought and that is, we could call that pure consciousness.

  • Otherwise, how could you have a sense perception?

  • So there is something there that enables sense perceptions to be there, that enables a thought

  • to be there, that enables an emotion to be there and that is the thing that in most humans

  • is hidden, in order words, they don't know it's there [chuckles] because that is presence

  • which we could also call consciousness, which we could also call awareness.

  • And that is the spiritual dimension and that is the awakening once you realize that that

  • is there, we could also describe that as the space for all those other things.

  • So let's say, let's compare this room to your consciousness and then we say, "Okay, there's

  • the furniture in the room, there's the bodies in the room, and there are the other lights

  • in this room; those things are in this room. So if I asked you to describe the room you

  • would probably describe it in terms of the furniture in it, the walls, the ceiling, whatever

  • you see. Yet, when you describe that room you would miss the most essential thing about

  • this room because it's so obvious that you miss it which is the space that really is

  • the essence of this room isn't the walls or the ceiling or the floor, the furniture or

  • the bodies in this room; the essence of this room is the space in this room. [chuckles]

  • But space is not something tangible that you can say, "Ah there it is." Where?

  • And the same thing applies to inside. The space of consciousness is the very thing that

  • enables everything else to be but it's very much like the fish in water that says, "Why

  • are you always talking about water, you haven't shown it to me yet," says one fish to the

  • other. The other fish is a spiritual teacher.

  • [laughter]

  • "So what water are you talking about? Where? What water?" And of course you can't, it's

  • everywhere; it's inside you, it's outside you. [chuckles] But the amazing thing is you

  • can be aware of it but not as an object but as the awareness itself.

  • "Ah.

  • I got it now, I got it." But you can't say what it is. You can't say, "There it is."

  • That reminds me of something I read in the New Testament where He said, "The Kingdom

  • of Heaven does not come with signs to be perceived. You cannot say, 'It's over here,' or 'It's

  • over there.' But truly I tell you the Kingdom of heaven is within you." Somebody said that

  • 2,000 years ago, but very few people in the churches understand the depth of it. [chuckles]

  • It gets completely misinterpreted. [chuckles] But that's the deepest spiritual teaching.

  • Now that Kingdom of Heaven, that's spaciousness that's in you, it cannot be observed as if

  • it were a chair because it is the observing agent, it is that which makes all observation

  • possible. So it cannot become an object to itself because it is the eternal subject,

  • the I; consciousness itself, the light of the source you could call it; the light of

  • God, the light of the One. The ancient Greek philosopher called it the One.

  • It's a beautiful term. And the Buddha didn't call it anything because he said, "If I call

  • it something people will make it into some idol, so better not call it anything." So

  • when they asked the Buddha, "What about God?" What they say when he was asked that question

  • he kept noble silence. And of course then noble silence itself is the state of presence.

  • So they asked the Buddha, "Tell us about God." And he went --

  • And that's the answer. [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: So you've given us some clues on how to explore this within ourselves.

  • You mentioned changing the balance and things we could do with the breath and a note on

  • our computer monitor and looking at nature, these are some very practical suggestions.

  • I often find for myself that the time when I would probably most benefit from connecting

  • to that part of myself is the time when I'm least able to. It's the time when I'm very

  • activated and I'm either emotional about something or lost in thought or in the heat of the moment.

  • Do you have any suggestions for how to sort of find that even in the midst of these sort

  • of challenges that come along throughout life?

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: First I recommend that you practice when you're not being challenged

  • because if you can't do it then, then when you're being challenged it's impossible. So

  • first you practice when you're relatively undisturbed and there's a moment after getting

  • up or you take a short break in your normal daily routine or several short breaks, one

  • minute breaks, half minute breaks.

  • So when you're not being challenged then you bring in that awareness, you become the awareness,

  • you go into the present moment perhaps as I described just now starting with sense perceptions;

  • become alert. An alertness is required to truly perceive things, and immediately things

  • become more alive and less problematic when you go into sense perception because the problematic

  • dimension is in the head. And you go into sense perception suddenly you have into the

  • present moment and in the present moment problems disappear. Isn't that strange? The mind says,

  • "Well, I still have them." Yeah, when you start thinking about them you have them again.

  • But when you're not thinking about them you have no problems. Now some of you will argue

  • with that but let me explain.

  • You have situations in your life that can be challenging and you have to deal with these

  • situations but the only place where you can deal the challenging situations is in the

  • present moment. And dealing with a challenging situation in the present moment is not a problem,

  • you're dealing with a challenging situation, you're facing it, you're looking at it, and

  • that looking is important what I call looking really is putting your attention on it which

  • is the power of consciousness. And while you're looking, you're not thinking.

  • Every person who has achieved mastery in any field knows what I mean by looking because

  • there's an absolute presence and then that person does what he or she does. It flows

  • from that presence. So you look, there's no problem; problem is when you dwell mentally

  • on something that will happen, could happen, might happen; a problem is something I have

  • to face next week but not now and you're totally absorbed in that, that's problem.

  • An interesting thing I may have even written that in The Power of Now, if you think you

  • have problems ask yourself, "What problem do I have at this moment?" But this moment

  • really means this moment. And then you have to go, "Hum, well I've got my wife, my ex-wife

  • is suing me, I'm about to lose my home, uh --

  • a person close to me is ill, I might lose my job, I have to look for a new job." Okay

  • what problem do you have at this moment?

  • You're breathing, feeling the aliveness in the body, looking around, well at this moment

  • I don't actually have a problem. You have to then admit, if you really go into the present

  • moment the problem cannot survive in the present moment. [chuckles] That's an amazing realization.

  • Doesn't mean that you no longer deal with what you need to deal with, you deal with

  • it when the moment comes more effectively when you don't waste your life energy in the

  • mental realm of creating problems that you cannot be dealt with at this moment.

  • And if you wake up in the middle of the might thinking about your problems and what you

  • can do about them it's extremely unlikely that you find any solution by worrying at

  • four o'clock in the morning about it. But if you became still at four o'clock in the

  • morning and wake up and go into the inner energy field of the body rather than thinking

  • about your problems, in other words, leave the dimension of problems, come deeply into

  • the present moment, then perhaps the next morning when you wake up you suddenly say,

  • "Oh I know what I have to do now. I know how I can deal with it now." And the right course

  • of action happens because you've gone there but not through the problem making faculty

  • in the human mind.

  • So again coming back to your question when things are, when you're not being challenged

  • practice it and then when you are being challenged by little things that goes wrong so to speak

  • in daily life tends to happen, you might have noticed things don't always go according to

  • your expectations, sometimes you miss the bus or something you miss the plane or something

  • else goes wrong, it tends to happen actually quite a lot; it seems to be part of life.

  • By the way it's the reason why people go to see movies because the substructure of every

  • movie that you see we could call it, it applies to virtually every movie you see if you can

  • examine any movie you see what actually happens in the movie, in fact I can describe every

  • movie to you in three words, "Something goes wrong."

  • [laughter]

  • [chuckles] Because there wouldn't be a movie otherwise,

  • [laughter]

  • nothing would happen. Nobody would evolve, everything would be dead.

  • But in your own life you complain so you see movies to see something go wrong but when

  • it happens in your own life you complain, not you personally you've transcended it perhaps

  • already --

  • [laughter]

  • but so the strange thing is things are not meant not to go wrong; going wrong is part

  • of the totality of how life experiences itself. If things didn't go wrong it would be very

  • uninteresting and nobody would evolve because people only evolve through the challenges

  • that they encounter.

  • And in a good movie the protagonist or the character changes as he or she faces that

  • which goes wrong in the movie. In a bad movie the character does not go through any changes,

  • that which goes wrong is only solved on an external level, in the end the bad guy is

  • killed and that's the end of the movie but nothing else happens. [chuckles]

  • So something going wrong is part of how life experiences itself. And again you can then

  • bring awareness to that so that you don't always fall into reactivity when something

  • goes wrong, but you immediately align with it.

  • Or when people behave in a way that you find offensive or they behave in a way that they

  • create difficulties for you because you wanted this and they want something else, you don't

  • have to go into hostility or opposition. You can immediately say, "Oh that seems to me,

  • this is what is and then how can I approach that without the negativity and just accept

  • that something has gone wrong?" It's not wrong at all, it's called life. [chuckles] So, something

  • going wrong really what it means is it's called life.

  • So you welcome every little challenge so it's a shift in attitude and then your practice

  • becomes easier when you see you can almost, almost welcome when things happen --

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: [chuckles]

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: that before you called things going wrong; little things and later big things.

  • "Oh okay." And then you evolve just as a character in a good movie.

  • I gave a talk, I'm talking about this now because a week ago I was in L.A. and I gave

  • a talk about transformational movies bringing consciousness into the movie industry. I gave

  • as an example two movies by Clint Eastwood: an early one I think it was called Dirty Harry

  • and that's the, oh that's a very entertaining movie, it's quite satisfying to watch because

  • the bad guy gets killed in the end, nevertheless it's not a transformational movie. In the

  • end you might remember the memorable lines, "Make my day," --

  • [laughter]

  • when he is about to shoot the bad guy, "Make my day, punk." And that's the most satisfying

  • moment in the movie for the viewer.

  • [laughter]

  • Not a transformational but entertaining movie. And then many 30 years later Clint Eastwood

  • made a movie again about bad guys and that movie was called Gran Torino. If you haven't

  • seen it I recommend that you see it. And that perhaps shows a shift in his own evolution,

  • because again we are faced with bad guys but how that is resolved in the end is very different

  • from the early movie. I'm not telling you how here because if you haven't seen it, you

  • want to experience it for yourself. So that's transformational: Gran Torino. It's the same

  • actor and I think Clint Eastwood directed the Gran Torino one that probably shows his

  • own evolution of his own consciousness from the early stage to the later stage. But here

  • this really is a reflection of life --

  • you can resist continuously life or you can internally align yourself with life so that

  • your life becomes a good movie rather than a bad movie. [chuckles]

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: So if there's hope for the movie industry there's certainly hope

  • for us I think.

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: [laughs]

  • [laughter]

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: So we're gonna take the time we have left and take questions both

  • from the Google Moderator online system as well as live in the room here. There is one

  • mic in the center and so if you have a question you can approach that mic, and if the technicians

  • could get the Google Moderator questions up on the monitor here too that would be helpful.

  • And why don't you introduce yourself and maybe what you do at Google and then ask the question.

  • >>Unika: Sure. My name is Unika and I do marketing so I'm one of the, you mentioned there's lots

  • of engineers, I'm one of those people that agrees with you and all those codes and terms

  • you mentioned I have no clue what you meant earlier.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: [chuckles]

  • >>Female #1: So I just wanted to know about your journey. You had explained a little bit

  • in The Power of Now about the nightmare waking up when you were 29, 30 and I just would love

  • to hear about it. How you went from that state of anxiety into where you are right now.

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Well as I, for most people the shift is a gradual process from one state

  • of consciousness to another and occasionally it happens in some people as it happened to

  • me that it happened virtually overnight, the shift from one state of consciousness to another.

  • And I was deeply depressed for many years and close to suicide several times and that

  • night as I describe in The Power of Now at the beginning, I dis-identified from the thinking

  • mind. I didn't know that that was what was happening, it just happened. "I can't live

  • with myself any longer," I thought, "It's so dreadful; I can't live with myself any

  • longer." And then suddenly an awareness came in, I didn't know it was called awareness,

  • an awareness came in and looked at the thought and the thought seemed suddenly looked very

  • strange; the thought seemed to consist of two people, I and myself. [chuckles] "I can't

  • live with myself." So then another thought came, "Am I one or two and who am I and who

  • is that self that I can't live with?"

  • That's almost a Zen-like question.

  • [laughter]

  • And like all Zen questions, it didn't really have an answer on the conceptual level. So

  • on the conceptual level, I didn't get an answer but the answer was that the myself and the

  • I suddenly separated. And I realized, although I couldn't have explained it then, that the

  • myself was a mind-created entity, the me, the poor little unhappy me, it was consisted

  • of mind movement, and identity, a mental identity of an unhappy human being with an unhappy

  • history and a very uncertain future. That probably applies to many humans, not if you

  • work at Google, but --

  • [laughter]

  • There was a separation and what was, there was an I suddenly that saw that and that I

  • years later I realized what that I was, it was consciousness itself.

  • So before there was consciousness and thinking forming a unity; my consciousness was trapped

  • in my thinking. Through the suffering at that night and looking at that sentence the consciousness

  • separated itself from the movement of thinking and the self that I couldn't live with was

  • not being sustained anymore by consciousness and it kind of crumbled. That was a false

  • self that crumbled and what was left was simply a space of awareness.

  • And the next morning I felt very peaceful, never felt that peaceful before, nothing had

  • changed in my environment and I couldn't understand it. It took probably at least three, four

  • years before I could begin to understand what had happened. All I realized I'm suddenly

  • so peaceful, the whole world is peaceful, what's happened? [chuckles]

  • So the mind itself had dissolved and later I talked to some Buddhist monks and others

  • and through listening to them I realized when they talked about the teaching of the Buddha,

  • later I also realized that Jesus was talking about the same thing, but I realized the Buddha

  • talked about the delusional self, the unreality of the self, that the self is not real as

  • it's called, he taught there is no self really. Anatta is the word in the Pali language in

  • the Buddhist teaching; it's an illusion that self is an illusion. And so when I talked

  • to Buddhist monks I began to realize, it was three years later, "Oh that must be what happened,

  • this must be why I feel so peaceful." [chuckles]

  • So understanding came much later, it kind of just happened. And then it became a teaching.

  • So I'm now showing to people this is something that you can, that can happen in your life.

  • But for most people it's a gradual process of dis-identification from the thinking mind

  • which doesn't mean you don't think anymore; it just means your identity or your self is

  • isn't trapped in it so the thinking is free of self and it's very liberating. And you,

  • essentially, who you feel yourself to be and who I feel myself to be is not to do with

  • the physical form or my personal history or what I have achieved in life, fortunately,

  • because otherwise you get unhappy.

  • For many years, before I wrote The Power of Now and it became successful, I was basically

  • a failure [chuckles] in the eyes of the world. So he's already almost 50 and what has he

  • achieved? My Mom said, "You have thrown away your life. You had so many possibilities in

  • your life. You walked out of graduate school in Cambridge. Why did you walk out of there?"

  • My Mom and many other people said, "This person has failed in life; he has no job, he has

  • no insurance policies --

  • [laughter]

  • nothing; no pension plan --

  • [laughter]

  • just almost nothing in the bank. Failure"

  • And then a few years later as people bought The Power of Now and became a bestseller,

  • "Oh, a big success."

  • Okay, if I had derived my identity at that time from what the world was telling me or

  • my mind would have told me if I had been listening to my mind, I would have been very unhappy

  • and I didn't so I was fine because my identity wasn't derived from that anymore.

  • And fortunately even when in the eyes of the world I suddenly became a success I don't

  • want to derive my identity from that, it's a cheap substitute for who I really am. So

  • I don't see, I don't derive, the satisfaction that comes is the satisfaction that the work

  • that's happening, the teaching that's happening is transforming people's lives; that's very

  • satisfying. I don't get any personal satisfaction though because I don't feel it as this separate

  • me produced it.

  • >>female #1: Thank you.

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Thanks.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: I have a question about that. You mentioned for you the transformation

  • came quite suddenly and for others it happens more gradually. Do you have any sense of why

  • that is? Is it because you had bottomed out and were having these feelings or is it because

  • of a certain ripeness that had brought you to that moment or --

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Yes.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: is it just inexplicable?

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: I don't have the answer to that. I don't know why some people have said,

  • "Well, it must have something to do with past lifetimes," maybe, or whatever it is but I

  • don't have, or maybe I suffered more deeply than others, I don't know. I think there are

  • many people who suffered deeply so I don't have the answer to that.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: Thank you.

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: I'm quoting the Dalai Lama who loves saying, "I don't know."

  • [laughter]

  • But usually after he says that he starts talking and then the answer's actually quite meaningful.

  • [laughter]

  • But the wonderful thing is, really what he's starting with is a space, "I don't know."

  • And then something comes.

  • [laughter]

  • But he doesn't say, "Yeah, I know."

  • Probably Socrates, if you have read any Plato, ancient Greek philosophy, Socrates also taught

  • in that way. Although in Plato, perhaps I'm only talking to a few people here, [chuckles]

  • in Plato, Socrates, the way he teaches is, he continuously when reported by Plato he

  • teaches as if he didn't know. So he asks these questions, people ask him a question then

  • he asks, "Well, what do you think, how is this?" In Plato, Socrates pretends not to

  • know but I believe the real Socrates, who never wrote anything, the real Socrates actually

  • came from that place of not knowing but that was misinterpreted by Plato as if Socrates

  • were pretending not to know. But let's not go into deeply into that.

  • [laughter]

  • >>Female #2: Hello.

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Hello.

  • >>Mary: My name's Mary, I work in HR.

  • So here at Google they have this really wonderful class called Search Inside Yourself, created

  • by Meng, whom I believe you met with. And yesterday was our last class and we talked

  • about compassion and having compassion for the world. So I work in HR so all us HR people

  • have lots of compassion for other people because it's our job.

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: [chuckles]

  • >>Mary: [laughs] But we also work at Google and Googlers are sort of a high achieving

  • bunch. Not only high achieving in the eyes of the world but high achieving to ourselves,

  • meaning did I get up out of bed today and what did I accomplish? If I didn't accomplish

  • anything I'm a failure to myself. So I was wondering if you had any advice for those

  • of us who don't have as much compassion for ourselves?

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Okay, thanks.

  • Well, yes, compassion for yourself of course is as important as compassion for others.

  • Often I get asked questions like people who did something that they now realize was deeply

  • wrong in the past, sometimes people ask questions about they brought up their children in a

  • way that they now realize was not very conscious, and so they may have caused suffering to their

  • children or other people find they have caused suffering to loved ones and they now realize

  • that what they did was wrong. And again, I say, this is an example where you need to

  • be compassionate with yourself because no human being can act beyond their level of

  • consciousness; so that was your level of consciousness at the time and you could not go beyond that.

  • And again here to make demands upon yourself up to a point it might be a good thing as

  • long as you enjoy it, it's a wonderful thing. When the enjoyment of what you're doing is

  • lost then you have to be careful because there you have to come to a stop and say, "Okay

  • there's something here that's not right because I'm no longer enjoying what I'm doing." That

  • really, that's the danger and so as long as you enjoy you don't even need compassion.

  • Some people have a very active mind, maybe that's what Freud called the super ego or

  • some other entity that criticizes you. Some people have a particular function in their

  • minds that's very critical of themselves. [chuckles] Perhaps everybody has it to some

  • degree but some people have it to a high degree and that's a dreadful thing to live with;

  • living with a voice in your head that continually criticizes you and tells you, "You haven't

  • done well enough, you're not good enough, you should have done better." I mean if you

  • had to live with a person like that you would leave.

  • [laughter]

  • I mean it would be horrible to live with a person who continuously tells you these things

  • but if that thing is stuck in your head what can you do?

  • [laughter]

  • Now what you can do is to become aware that all that it is it's a particular pattern in

  • your mind, it's a particular way in which your mind works. And so you could call it

  • a sub personality but what it really is it's a mind pattern that operates in you and when

  • you bring awareness to it you can recognize it as a mind pattern in you. In other words

  • you no longer believe every thought that arises that it says; you recognize it's an old pattern

  • that says the same thing that it said five years ago or ten years ago and it says that

  • all the time and you recognize it.

  • In order words, you're not trapped in the thoughts anymore, this is again the whole

  • thing we are talking about, you don't believe in every thought that comes into your head.

  • What that really means is there's an awareness beyond the thought and you realize there's

  • the voice in my head saying this again, that's all it is. And when you don't energize it

  • with your identification it begins to subside. In this way you become free of this dreadful

  • burden of having that thing in your head talking to you and making your life miserable.

  • But what matters is the awareness needs to be there that frees you because then you become

  • the awareness rather than being the thought or being trapped in the thought or possessed

  • by the thought.

  • Again there's a movie that many of you have probably seen called A Beautiful Mind; it's

  • about the scientist, it's actually based on a real person what happened to him, quite

  • a genius in his field but he developed delusions, he saw people that weren't there, whatever

  • it's called clinically schizophrenia whatever.

  • And the great thing about the movie is the viewer up to the point where the protagonists

  • realizes that these things are illusions the viewer of the movie doesn't know it either;

  • the viewer participates in the illusions of the protagonist, he believes these people

  • are real too until suddenly the protagonist realizes, "Oh my God, I'm seeing things that

  • are not there," and then he continues to see these things but suddenly there's an awareness

  • in him.

  • And so although these people still appear to him that are not really there there's an

  • awareness in him there that he's no longer totally reactive to them, he doesn't feed

  • them with his reaction and gradually they subside over years, it takes years for them

  • to subside. But the decisive point is, although the word is never mentioned, the decisive

  • point is the awareness, "Wow."

  • And that's the same thing that applies to any pattern in the human mind not just a totally

  • insane pattern; bring awareness to it so that you're not tortured by that. And real compassion

  • always arises out of awareness anyway. Yeah.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: My childhood violin teacher used to shake his finger at me and say, "You

  • hear but you don't listen."

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: [chuckles]

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: And he didn't mean it as a compliment but it seems like this may

  • be the technique for --

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Yes.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: dealing with the inner critic.

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Ah, yes, very good, yes.

  • [laughter]

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: [laughs]

  • Yes.

  • >>male #1: Hi, thank you first Eckhart for coming.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: Tip the microphone.

  • >>male #1: Oh.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: Yeah, thank you.

  • >>male #1: I wanted to ask you it seems like the state that you're talking about of being

  • at peace and being in the moment is, it's a very appealing state that you feel more

  • in touch, and I'm wondering why society or people, why is there this attraction to distraction?

  • And what is it about us that leads us to develop these systems that take us away from that?

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Distractions, excitement, stimulus are kinds of drugs or substitutes

  • for the true feeling of aliveness within yourself. So in the absence of that true feeling of

  • aliveness within yourself which we could call connectedness with being, connectedness with

  • source, you have to look, you look to the outside for something to make you feel more

  • alive because when you're totally trapped in your thinking mind there's a lack of aliveness,

  • there's a sense that something fundamental is missing in my life; it's an unconscious

  • sense for many people.

  • But that is the basis for many people's lives is actually a sense of lack and that's an

  • amazing thing if you really look at that, that the basis for your life is there's something

  • missing. And there are millions of people on the planet who live their lives on that

  • basis without even fully recognizing it as if continuously they were telling themselves

  • and certainly feeling, "Something missing here." [chuckles] So they always, "How can

  • I fill that thing that's missing," they don't know what's missing but there's, it may sound

  • familiar to some of you because it's such a prevalent mind pattern, "Something missing,

  • I need something."

  • And of course what's missing is the true senses of connectedness with being, with aliveness.

  • And then of course you look for, "Okay what's the next fix that I can get?" And then you're

  • kind of you become a little bit greedy and addictive for stimulus, that's why the bad

  • movies they produce more and more things that stimulated more and more into violence because

  • at least you get to substitute feeling of aliveness and then you look for the next fix;

  • some people get it in drugs or alcohol.

  • It's almost like needing to suck up something to fill that thing that's missing or you're

  • looking to another human being to fill it, sex, where is the next, or even the next affair,

  • the excitement that comes from you just starting into a love affair, "Wow now it's really happening."

  • Of course and then you start living together and then it goes downhill from there.

  • [laughter]

  • So that doesn't work and so always looking for something and not knowing that what you've

  • been looking for is actually already within, it's in you. It's taking attention instead

  • of out there looking for it, go in there.

  • This is why I start in The Power of Now giving the parable about a beggar sitting on an old

  • box holding his baseball cap, "Can you spare a dime, can you spare," and for years he sits

  • on this box, "Can you spare a dime," until finally somebody comes along and he doesn't

  • give him a dime and says, "What's in that box you're sitting on?" I'm telling that parable

  • in the book and he said, "Nothing I've been sitting on it for years, it's just an old

  • box." And the man says, "Well, look inside." And finally he gets, "Okay," and it's full

  • of gold, he's been sitting on it for years begging [chuckles]. It's just a little parable.

  • Of course the real thing is not even close to you it's essentially part of who you are

  • so that's the reason why people, people also look, they even look for stimulus in drama

  • in relationships because it makes them feel, "well at least we're still alive, we're fighting

  • we must be alive." [laughs]

  • Thanks.

  • >>male #1: Thank you.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: I think we'll have time just for one more question.

  • >>Alex: Hey, my name is Alex, I am an equipment maintenance tech so I keep rooms like this

  • operational.

  • So you gave us some very practical things to try to rid ourselves of distraction. I'm

  • curious about another issue really strong emotion. For example, like right now I'm like

  • nervous, there's no reason to be nervous, nothing bad could possibly happen. How do

  • you overcome emotions like that and jealousy, hatred, any strong emotion? Do you have any

  • practical tips that we could try for that?

  • Thank you.

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: Well, first it's helpful to see the connection which is usually the

  • case between the particular thoughts that you are thinking and the emotion that you

  • feel. Most of the time the emotions are caused by particular patterns in your mind, for example,

  • anxiety is caused by thinking about possible future things that may happen or things that

  • you want to happen but they may not happen, you may not get what you want, you may not

  • get what you need, you may lose what you already have; these things are all mind patterns that

  • create fear.

  • So very often it is the thought that creates the emotion and the thought creates the emotion

  • because you are totally, you totally believe in the thought, in other words, you're totally

  • identified with the thought then the body responds as if the thought were reality. "I

  • might lose my job." If you think that you wake up in the middle of the night and then

  • you start thinking more thoughts on those lines, the body can't tell the difference,

  • the body kind of responds to the thoughts that go through your mind, they affect the

  • physiology of the body. I mean if you doubt that think of biting into a lemon and you'll

  • find saliva accumulating in your mouth, [chuckles] so what you think affects the body. The body

  • believes your thoughts to be real so when you think that you might lose your job, you've

  • lost your job already according to the body and you're destitute and that's how the body

  • reacts and that's how the emotion is created.

  • So it's often then by looking, seeing a thought as untrue that you actually begin to become

  • free. You can only see it as untrue if there's an awareness there that is aware that there

  • is a thought; without the awareness there's only the thought. The thought then swallows

  • up your entire consciousness and there's nothing else you can do then. But with awareness:

  • here's the awareness and here's the thought and then the thought may still operate for

  • a while but it's not empowered anymore and the emotion then is also going to weaken.

  • There may be times when there's not much thought as in this, when you just said when you came

  • up to the microphone, you felt nervous, perhaps you didn't have any particular thought on

  • this occasion, you just became nervous because many people when they go up to a microphone

  • and speak in public feel nervous. And again, in these cases the question of simply allowing,

  • acknowledging the emotion and allowing it to be there, as I sometimes put it you become

  • the space for it; you allow it to be there.

  • So you could step up to the microphone, it's actually what you said is very helpful when

  • you go to the mic and you start by saying, "I feel nervous, the palms of my hands are

  • sweaty because I'm here." It's a beginning of allowing it to be there without feeling

  • that I shouldn't be feeling nervous then you feel even more nervous.

  • But if you allow the emotion to be there, there comes a little space around it and there's

  • an aware space, yes, there's nervousness, but there is an awareness around it, so you're

  • not totally in the nervousness, you allow it. And when you share it with others it's

  • even, it's a lovely thing when you share any emotion in that way with others rather than

  • inflicting your emotion on them and saying, "You did that to me." But when you say, "When

  • you said that, this is what I felt," there's an awareness there rather than, "You make

  • me feel this." You can say, "When you said that, this is what I felt," or "At this moment,

  • this is what I feel."

  • Everybody loves that and there's an honesty with that rather than coming up to the microphone

  • and pretending not to be nervous; it's actually much more powerful and you connect more deeply

  • if you ever go into public speaking, perhaps you will --

  • [laughter]

  • you connect much more deeply to the audience when, instead of hiding the fact that you're

  • nervous you start off by saying, "I feel really nervous," then you connect with everybody.

  • If you're pretending you don't connect.

  • So again, just brief summary, see what thoughts are causing the emotion which is often the

  • case or in other cases, if an emotion just arises allow it to be, be the space for it,

  • and it's part of your experience of the present moment and you might as well say yes to it

  • because whatever arises in the present moment is as it is already, whether you argue with

  • it or not. The present moment is always as it is and that's the is-ness, and when you

  • become friendly with the is-ness that in itself is a transformation of consciousness.

  • >>Bradley Horowitz: So there's a lot of people to thank. I wanna start by thanking those

  • that tuned in on the webcast, I wanna thank all of you Googlers who chose to take your

  • afternoon and spend it here with us, I wanna thank Rich and the Learning and Development

  • Team here at Google who make events like this possible, and of course I wanna thank Eckhart

  • on behalf of all of us.

  • Thank you for your wisdom, thank you for your being, and also your doing in the world, your

  • choice to share this knowledge with us. You've given us a lot to think about and more importantly

  • the ability not to think at all.

  • >>Eckhart Tolle: [chuckles]

  • [laughter]

  • Thank you.

  • [applause]

>>Rich Fernandez: Hello everyone.

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