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  • President Obama: (greets the audience in Chinese)

  • (applause)

  • Good afternoon.

  • It is a great honor for me to be here in Shanghai,

  • and to have this opportunity to speak with all of you.

  • I'd like to thank Fudan University's President Yang for

  • his hospitality and his gracious welcome.

  • I'd also like to thank our outstanding Ambassador,

  • Jon Huntsman, who exemplifies the deep ties and respect

  • between our nations.

  • I don't know what he said, but I hope it was good.

  • (laughter)

  • What I'd like to do is to make some opening remarks,

  • and then what I'm really looking forward to doing is taking

  • questions, not only from students who are in the

  • audience, but also we've received questions online,

  • which will be asked by some of the students who are here in the

  • audience, as well as by Ambassador Huntsman.

  • And I am very sorry that my Chinese is not as good as your

  • English, but I am looking forward to this chance to have a dialogue.

  • This is my first time traveling to China,

  • and I'm excited to see this majestic country.

  • Here, in Shanghai, we see the growth that has caught the

  • attention of the world -- the soaring skyscrapers,

  • the bustling streets and entrepreneurial activity.

  • And just as I'm impressed by these signs of China's journey

  • to the 21st century, I'm eager to see those ancient places that

  • speak to us from China's distant past.

  • Tomorrow and the next day I hope to have a chance when I'm in

  • Beijing to see the majesty of the Forbidden City and the

  • wonder of the Great Wall.

  • Truly, this is a nation that encompasses both a rich history

  • and a belief in the promise of the future.

  • The same can be said of the relationship between our two countries.

  • Shanghai, of course, is a city that has great meaning in the

  • history of the relationship between the United States and China.

  • It was here, 37 years ago, that the Shanghai Communique opened

  • the door to a new chapter of engagement between our

  • governments and among our people.

  • However, America's ties to this city -- and to this country --

  • stretch back further, to the earliest days of America's independence.

  • In 1784, our founding father, George Washington,

  • commissioned the Empress of China,

  • a ship that set sail for these shores so that it could pursue

  • trade with the Qing Dynasty.

  • Washington wanted to see the ship carry the flag around the

  • globe, and to forge new ties with nations like China.

  • This is a common American impulse --

  • the desire to reach for new horizons,

  • and to forge new partnerships that are mutually beneficial.

  • Over the two centuries that have followed,

  • the currents of history have steered the relationship between

  • our countries in many directions.

  • And even in the midst of tumultuous winds,

  • our people had opportunities to forge deep and even dramatic ties.

  • For instance, Americans will never forget the hospitality

  • shown to our pilots who were shot down over your soil during

  • World War II, and cared for by Chinese civilians who risked all

  • that they had by doing so.

  • And Chinese veterans of that war still warmly greet those

  • American veterans who return to the sites where they fought to

  • help liberate China from occupation.

  • A different kind of connection was made nearly 40 years ago

  • when the frost between our countries began to thaw through

  • the simple game of table tennis.

  • The very unlikely nature of this engagement contributed to its

  • success -- because for all our differences,

  • both our common humanity and our shared curiosity were revealed.

  • As one American player described his visit to China --

  • "[The] people are just like us...The country is very similar

  • to America, but still very different."

  • Of course this small opening was followed by the achievement of

  • the Shanghai Communique, and the eventual establishment of formal

  • relations between the United States and China in 1979.

  • And in three decades, just look at how far we have come.

  • In 1979, trade between the United States and China stood at

  • roughly $5 billion -- today it tops over $400 billion each year.

  • The commerce affects our people's lives in so many ways.

  • America imports from China many of the computer parts we use,

  • the clothes we wear; and we export to China machinery that

  • helps power your industry.

  • This trade could create even more jobs on both sides of the

  • Pacific, while allowing our people to enjoy a better quality of life.

  • And as demand becomes more balanced,

  • it can lead to even broader prosperity.

  • In 1979, the political cooperation between the United

  • States and China was rooted largely in our shared rivalry

  • with the Soviet Union.

  • Today, we have a positive, constructive and comprehensive

  • relationship that opens the door to partnership on the key global

  • issues of our time -- economic recovery and the development of

  • clean energy; stopping the spread of nuclear weapons and

  • the scourge of climate change; the promotion of peace and

  • security in Asia and around the globe.

  • All of these issues will be on the agenda tomorrow when I meet

  • with President Hu.

  • And in 1979, the connections among our people were limited.

  • Today, we see the curiosity of those ping-pong players

  • manifested in the ties that are being forged across many sectors.

  • The second highest number of foreign students in the United

  • States come from China, and we've seen a 50% increase in the

  • study of Chinese among our own students.

  • There are nearly 200 "friendship cities" drawing our communities together.

  • American and Chinese scientists cooperate on new research and discovery.

  • And of course, Yao Ming is just one signal of our shared love of

  • basketball -- I'm only sorry that I won't be able to see a

  • Shanghai Sharks game while I'm visiting.

  • It is no coincidence that the relationship between our

  • countries has accompanied a period of positive change.

  • China has lifted hundreds of millions of people out of

  • poverty -- an accomplishment unparalleled in human history --

  • while playing a larger role in global events.

  • And the United States has seen our economy grow along with the

  • standard of living enjoyed by our people,

  • while bringing the Cold War to a successful conclusion.

  • There is a Chinese proverb: "Consider the past,

  • and you shall know the future."

  • Surely, we have known setbacks and challenges over the last 30 years.

  • Our relationship has not been without disagreement and difficulty.

  • But the notion that we must be adversaries is not predestined

  • -- not when we consider the past.

  • Indeed, because of our cooperation,

  • both the United States and China are more prosperous and more secure.

  • We have seen what is possible when we build upon our mutual

  • interests, and engage on the basis of mutual respect.

  • And yet the success of that engagement depends upon

  • understanding -- on sustaining an open dialogue,

  • and learning about one another and from one another.

  • For just as that American table tennis player pointed out --

  • we share much in common as human beings,

  • but our countries are different in certain ways.

  • I believe that each country must chart its own course.

  • China is an ancient nation, with a deeply rooted culture.

  • The United States, by comparison, is a young nation,

  • whose culture is determined by the many different immigrants

  • who have come to our shores, and by the founding documents that

  • guide our democracy.

  • Those documents put forward a simple vision of human affairs,

  • and they enshrine several core principles --

  • that all men and women are created equal,

  • and possess certain fundamental rights;

  • that government should reflect the will of the people and

  • respond to their wishes; that commerce should be open,

  • information freely accessible; and that laws,

  • and not simply men, should guarantee the administration of justice.

  • Of course, the story of our nation is not without its

  • difficult chapters.

  • In many ways -- over many years --

  • we have struggled to advance the promise of these principles to

  • all of our people, and to forge a more perfect union.

  • We fought a very painful civil war,

  • and freed a portion of our population from slavery.

  • It took time for women to be extended the right to vote,

  • workers to win the right to organize,

  • and for immigrants from different corners of the globe

  • to be fully embraced.

  • Even after they were freed, African Americans persevered

  • through conditions that were separate and not equal,

  • before winning full and equal rights.

  • None of this was easy.

  • But we made progress because of our belief in those core

  • principles, which have served as our compass through the darkest of storms.

  • That is why Lincoln could stand up in the midst of civil war and

  • declare it a struggle to see whether any nation,

  • conceived in liberty, and "dedicated to the proposition

  • that all men are created equal" could long endure.

  • That is why Dr. Martin Luther King could stand on the steps of

  • the Lincoln Memorial and ask that our nation live out the

  • true meaning of its creed.

  • That's why immigrants from China to Kenya could find a home on

  • our shores; why opportunity is available to all who would work

  • for it; and why someone like me, who less than 50 years ago would

  • have had trouble voting in some parts of America,

  • is now able to serve as its President.

  • And that is why America will always speak out for those core

  • principles around the world.

  • We do not seek to impose any system of government on any

  • other nation, but we also don't believe that the principles that

  • we stand for are unique to our nation.

  • These freedoms of expression and worship --

  • of access to information and political participation --

  • we believe are universal rights.

  • They should be available to all people,

  • including ethnic and religious minorities --

  • whether they are in the United States, China, or any nation.

  • Indeed, it is that respect for universal rights that guides

  • America's openness to other countries;

  • our respect for different cultures;

  • our commitment to international law;

  • and our faith in the future.

  • These are all things that you should know about America.

  • I also know that we have much to learn about China.

  • Looking around at this magnificent city --

  • and looking around this room -- I do believe that our nations

  • hold something important in common,

  • and that is a belief in the future.

  • Neither the United States nor China is content to rest on our achievements.

  • For while China is an ancient nation,

  • you are also clearly looking ahead with confidence, ambition,

  • and a commitment to see that tomorrow's generation can do

  • better than today's.

  • In addition to your growing economy,

  • we admire China's extraordinary commitment to science and

  • research -- a commitment borne out in everything from the

  • infrastructure you build to the technology you use.

  • China is now the world's largest Internet user --

  • which is why we were so pleased to include the Internet as part

  • of today's event.

  • This country now has the world's largest mobile phone network,

  • and it is investing in the new forms of energy that can both

  • sustain growth and combat climate change --

  • and I'm looking forward to deepening the partnership

  • between the United States and China in this critical area tomorrow.

  • But above all, I see China's future in you --

  • young people whose talent and dedication and dreams will do so

  • much to help shape the 21st century.

  • I've said many times that I believe that our world is now

  • fundamentally interconnected.

  • The jobs we do, the prosperity we build,

  • the environment we protect, the security that we seek --

  • all of these things are shared.

  • And given that interconnection, power in the 21st century is no

  • longer a zero-sum game; one country's success need not come

  • at the expense of another.

  • And that is why the United States insists we do not seek to

  • contain China's rise.

  • On the contrary, we welcome China as a strong and prosperous

  • and successful member of the community of nations --

  • a China that draws on the rights, strengths,

  • and creativity of individual Chinese like you.

  • To return to the proverb -- consider the past.

  • We know that more is to be gained when great powers

  • cooperate than when they collide.

  • That is a lesson that human beings have learned time and

  • again, and that is the example of the history between our nations.

  • And I believe strongly that cooperation must go beyond our government.

  • It must be rooted in our people --

  • in the studies we share, the business that we do,

  • the knowledge that we gain, and even in the sports that we play.

  • And these bridges must be built by young men and women just like

  • you and your counterparts in America.

  • That's why I'm pleased to announce that the United States

  • will dramatically expand the number of our students who study

  • in China to 100,000.

  • And these exchanges mark a clear commitment to build ties among

  • our people, as surely as you will help determine the destiny

  • of the 21st century.

  • And I'm absolutely confident that America has no better

  • ambassadors to offer than our young people.

  • For they, just like you, are filled with talent and energy

  • and optimism about the history that is yet to be written.

  • So let this be the next step in the steady pursuit of

  • cooperation that will serve our nations, and the world.

  • And if there's one thing that we can take from today's dialogue,

  • I hope that it is a commitment to continue this dialogue going forward.

  • So thank you very much.

  • And I look forward now to taking some questions for all of you.

  • Thank you very much.

  • (applause)

  • So the --

  • (President Obama touches the microphone)

  • I just want to make sure this works.

  • This is a tradition, by the way, that is very common in the

  • United States at these town hall meetings.

  • And what we're going to do is I will just --

  • if you are interested in asking a question,

  • you can raise your hands.

  • I will call on you.

  • And then I will alternate between a question from the

  • audience and an Internet question from one of the

  • students who prepared the questions,

  • as well as I think Ambassador Huntsman may have a question

  • that we were able to obtain from the Web site of our embassy.

  • So let me begin, though, by seeing --

  • and then what I'll do is I'll call on a boy and then a girl

  • and then -- so we'll go back and forth, so that you know it's fair.

  • All right?

  • So I'll start with this young lady right in the front.

  • Here, why don't we wait for this microphone so everyone can hear you.

  • And what's your name?

  • Audience Member: My name is -- (inaudible) -- and I'm a student from

  • Fudan University.

  • Shanghai and Chicago have been sister cities since 1985,

  • and these two cities have conduct a wide range of

  • economic, political, and cultural exchanges.

  • So what measures will you take to deepen this close

  • relationship between cities of the United States and China?

  • And Shanghai will hold the World Exposition next year.

  • Will you bring your family to visit the Expo?

  • Thank you.

  • President Obama: Well, thank you very much for the question.

  • I was just having lunch before I came here with the Mayor of

  • Shanghai, and he told me that he has had an excellent

  • relationship with the city of Chicago -- my home town --

  • that he's visited there twice.

  • And I think it's wonderful to have these exchanges between cities.

  • One of the things that I discussed with the Mayor is how

  • both cities can learn from each other on strategies around clean

  • energy, because one of the issues that ties China and

  • America together is how, with an expanding population and a

  • concern for climate change, that we're able to reduce our carbon footprint.

  • And obviously in the United States and many developed

  • countries, per capita, per individual,

  • they are already using much more energy than each individual here

  • in China.

  • But as China grows and expands, it's going to be using more

  • energy as well.

  • So both countries have a great interest in finding new strategies.

  • We talked about mass transit and the excellent rail lines that

  • are being developed in Shanghai.

  • I think we can learn in Chicago some of the --

  • and the United States -- some of the fine work that's being done

  • on high-speed rail.

  • In the United States, I think we are learning how to develop

  • buildings that use much less energy,

  • that are much more energy-efficient.

  • And I know that with Shanghai, as I traveled and I saw all the

  • cranes and all the new buildings that are going up,

  • it's very important for us to start incorporating these new

  • technologies so that each building is energy-efficient

  • when it comes to lighting, when it comes to heating.

  • And so it's a terrific opportunity I think for us to

  • learn from each other.

  • I know this is going to be a major focus of the Shanghai

  • World Expo, is the issue of clean energy,

  • as I learned from the Mayor.

  • And so I would love to attend.

  • I'm not sure yet what my schedule is going to be,

  • but I'm very pleased that we're going to have an excellent U.S.

  • pavilion at the Expo, and I understand that we expect as

  • many as 70 million visitors here.

  • So it's going to be very crowded and it's going to be very exciting.

  • Chicago has had two world expos in its history,

  • and both of those expos ended up being tremendous boosts for the city.

  • So I'm sure the same thing will happen here in Shanghai.

  • Thank you.

  • (applause)

  • Why don't we get one of the questions from the Internet?

  • And introduce yourself, in case --

  • Translator: First shall I say it in Chinese, and then the English, okay?

  • President Obama: Yes.

  • Online Question (as translated): I'm -- (inaudible) -- from Shanghai --

  • (inaudible) -- University.

  • I want to pose a question from the Internet.

  • I want to thank you, Mr. President,

  • for visiting China in your first year in office,

  • and exchange views with us in China.

  • I want to know what are you bringing to China,

  • your visit to China this time, and what will you bring back to

  • the United States?

  • (translation made to President Obama)

  • President Obama: Okay.

  • The -- well --

  • (applause)

  • The main purpose of my trip is to deepen my understanding of

  • China and its vision for the future.

  • I have had several meetings now with President Hu.

  • We participated together in the G20 summit that was dealing with

  • the economic financial crisis.

  • We have had consultations about a wide range of issues.

  • But I think it's very important for the United States to

  • continually deepen its understanding of China,

  • just as it's important for China to continually deepen its

  • understanding of the United States.

  • In terms of what I'd like to get out of this meeting,

  • or this visit, in addition to having the wonderful opportunity

  • to see the Forbidden City and the Great Wall,

  • and to meet with all of you -- these are all highlights --

  • (microphone feedback)

  • Oh -- these are all highlights, but in addition to that,

  • the discussions that I intend to have with President Hu speak to

  • the point that Ambassador Huntsman made earlier,

  • which is there are very few global challenges that can be

  • solved unless the United States and China agree.

  • So let me give you a specific example,

  • and that is the issue we were just discussing of climate change.

  • The United States and China are the world's two largest emitters

  • of greenhouse gases, of carbon that is causing the planet to warm.

  • Now, the United States, as a highly developed country,

  • as I said before, per capita, consumes much more energy and

  • emits much more greenhouse gases for each individual than does China.

  • On the other hand, China is growing at a much faster pace

  • and it has a much larger population.

  • So unless both of our countries are willing to take critical

  • steps in dealing with this issue,

  • we will not be able to resolve it.

  • There's going to be a Copenhagen conference in December in which

  • world leaders are trying to find a recipe so that we can all make

  • commitments that are differentiated so each country

  • would not have the same obligations --

  • obviously China, which has much more poverty,

  • should not have to do exactly the same thing as the United

  • States -- but all of us should have these certain obligations

  • in terms of what our plan will be to reduce these greenhouse gases.

  • So that's an example of what I hope to get out of this meeting

  • -- a meeting of the minds between myself and President Hu

  • about how together the United States and China can show leadership.

  • Because I will tell you, other countries around the world will

  • be waiting for us.

  • They will watch to see what we do.

  • And if they say, ah, you know, the United States and China,

  • they're not serious about this, then they won't be serious either.

  • That is the burden of leadership that both of our countries now carry.

  • And my hope is, is that the more discussion and dialogue that we

  • have, the more we are able to show this leadership to the

  • world on these many critical issues.

  • Okay?

  • All right, it's a --

  • (applause)

  • I think it must be a boy's turn now.

  • Right?

  • So I'll call on this young man right here.

  • Let me get my --

  • Audience Member (as translated): Mr. President, good afternoon.

  • I'm from Tongji University.

  • I want to cite a saying from Confucius: "It is always good to

  • have a friend coming from afar."

  • In Confucius books, there is a great saying which says that

  • harmony is good, but also we uphold differences.

  • China advocates a harmonious world.

  • We know that the United States develops a culture that features diversity.

  • I want to know, what will your government do to build a

  • diversified world with different cultures?

  • What would you do to respect the different cultures and histories

  • of other countries?

  • And what kinds of cooperation we can conduct in the future?

  • President Obama: This is an excellent point.

  • The United States, one of our strengths is that we are a very

  • diverse culture.

  • We have people coming from all around the world.

  • And so there's no one definition of what an American looks like.

  • In my own family, I have a father who was from Kenya;

  • I have a mother who was from Kansas,

  • in the Midwest of the United States;

  • my sister is half-Indonesian; she's married to a Chinese

  • person from Canada.

  • So when you see family gatherings in the Obama

  • household, it looks like the United Nations.

  • (laughter)

  • And that is a great strength of the United States,

  • because it means that we learn from different cultures and

  • different foods and different ideas,

  • and that has made us a much more dynamic society.

  • Now, what is also true is that each country in this

  • interconnected world has its own culture and its own history and

  • its own traditions.

  • And I think it's very important for the United States not to

  • assume that what is good for us is automatically good for

  • somebody else.

  • And we have to have some modesty about our attitudes towards

  • other countries.

  • I have to say, though, as I said in my opening remarks,

  • that we do believe that there are certain fundamental

  • principles that are common to all people,

  • regardless of culture.

  • So, for example, in the United Nations we are very active in

  • trying to make sure that children all around the world

  • are treated with certain basic rights --

  • that if children are being exploited,

  • if there's forced labor for children,

  • that despite the fact that that may have taken place in the past

  • in many different countries, including the United States,

  • that all countries of the world now should have developed to the

  • point where we are treating children better than we did in the past.

  • That's a universal value.

  • I believe, for example, the same thing holds true when it comes

  • to the treatment of women.

  • I had a very interesting discussion with the Mayor of

  • Shanghai during lunch right before I came,

  • and he informed me that in many professions now here in China,

  • there are actually more women enrolled in college than there

  • are men, and that they are doing very well.

  • I think that is an excellent indicator of progress,

  • because it turns out that if you look at development around the

  • world, one of the best indicators of whether or not a

  • country does well is how well it educates its girls and how it

  • treats its women.

  • And countries that are tapping into the talents and the energy

  • of women and giving them educations typically do better

  • economically than countries that don't.

  • So, now, obviously different cultures may have different

  • attitudes about the relationship between men and women,

  • but I think it is the view of the United States that it is

  • important for us to affirm the rights of women all around the world.

  • And if we see certain societies in which women are oppressed,

  • or they are not getting opportunities,

  • or there is violence towards women, we will speak out.

  • Now, there may be some people who disagree with us,

  • and we can have a dialogue about that.

  • But we think it's important, nevertheless,

  • to be true to our ideals and our values.

  • And we -- and when we do so, though,

  • we will always do so with the humility and understanding that

  • we are not perfect and that we still have much progress to make.

  • If you talk to women in America, they will tell you that there

  • are still men who have a lot of old-fashioned ideas about the

  • role of women in society.

  • And so we don't claim that we have solved all these problems,

  • but we do think that it's important for us to speak out on

  • behalf of these universal ideals and these universal values.

  • Okay?

  • All right.

  • We're going to take a question from the Internet.

  • Internet Question Reader: Hello, Mr. President.

  • It's a great honor to be here and meet you in person.

  • President Obama: Thank you.

  • Internet Question Reader: My name's -- (inaudible) -- I'm from Shanghai International --

  • (inaudible) -- University.

  • I will be reading questions selected on the Internet to you,

  • and this question is from somebody from Taiwan.

  • In his question, he said: I come from Taiwan.

  • Now I am doing business on the mainland.

  • And due to improved cross-straits relations in

  • recent years, my business in China is doing quite well.

  • So when I heard the news that some people in America would

  • like to propose -- continue selling arms and weapons to

  • Taiwan, I begin to get pretty worried.

  • I worry that this may make our cross-straits relations suffer.

  • So I would like to know if, Mr. President,

  • are you supportive of improved cross-straits relations?

  • And although this question is from a businessman, actually,

  • it's a question of keen concern to all of us young Chinese

  • students, so we'd really like to know your position on this question.

  • Thank you.

  • President Obama: Thank you.

  • (applause)

  • Well, I have been clear in the past that my administration

  • fully supports a one-China policy,

  • as reflected in the three joint communiqués that date back

  • several decades, in terms of our relations with Taiwan as well as

  • our relations with the People's Republic of China.

  • We don't want to change that policy and that approach.

  • I am very pleased with the reduction of tensions and the

  • improvement in cross-straits relations,

  • and it is my deep desire and hope that we will continue to

  • see great improvement between Taiwan and the rest of --

  • and the People's Republic in resolving many of these issues.

  • One of the things that I think that the United States,

  • in terms of its foreign policy and its policy with respect to

  • China, is always seeking is ways that through dialogue and

  • negotiations, problems can be solved.

  • We always think that's the better course.

  • And I think that economic ties and commercial ties that are

  • taking place in this region are helping to lower a lot of the

  • tensions that date back before you were born or even before I was born.

  • Now, there are some people who still look towards the past when

  • it comes to these issues, as opposed to looking towards the future.

  • I prefer to look towards the future.

  • And as I said, I think the commercial ties that are taking

  • place -- there's something about when people think that they can

  • do business and make money that makes them think very clearly

  • and not worry as much about ideology.

  • And I think that that's starting to happen in this region,

  • and we are very supportive of that process.

  • Okay?

  • Let's see, it's a girl's turn now, right?

  • Yes, right there.

  • Yes.

  • Hold on, let's get -- whoops, I'm sorry, they took the mic back here.

  • I'll call on you next.

  • Go ahead, and then I'll go up here later.

  • Go ahead.

  • It's all right; please.

  • Audience Member: Thank you.

  • President Obama: I'll call on you later.

  • But I'll on her first and then I'll call on you afterwards.

  • Go ahead.

  • Audience Member: Okay, thank you.

  • Mr. President, I'm a student from Shanghai Jiao Tong University.

  • Since you have -- I have a question concerning the Nobel

  • Prize for Peace.

  • In your opinion, what's the main reason that you were honored the

  • Nobel Prize for Peace?

  • And will it give you more responsibility and pressure to

  • -- more pressure and the responsibility to promote world peace?

  • And will it bring you -- will it influence your ideas while

  • dealing with the international affairs?

  • Thank you very much.

  • President Obama: Thank you.

  • That was an excellent question.

  • I have to say that nobody was more surprised than me about

  • winning the Nobel Prize for Peace.

  • Obviously it's a great honor.

  • I don't believe necessarily that it's an honor I deserve,

  • given the extraordinary history of people who have won the prize.

  • All I can do is to, with great humility,

  • accept the fact that I think the committee was inspired by the

  • American people and the possibilities of changing not

  • only America but also America's approach to the world.

  • And so in some ways I think they gave me the prize but I was more

  • just a symbol of the shift in our approach to world affairs

  • that we are trying to promote.

  • In terms of the burden that I feel,

  • I am extraordinarily honored to be put in the position of President.

  • And as my wife always reminds me when I complain that I'm working

  • too hard, she says, you volunteered for this job.

  • (laughter)

  • And so you -- there's a saying --

  • I don't know if there's a similar saying in China --

  • we have a saying: "You made your bed,

  • now you have to sleep in it."

  • And it basically means you have to be careful what you ask for

  • because you might get it.

  • I think that all of us have obligations for trying to

  • promote peace in the world.

  • It's not always easy to do.

  • There are still a lot of conflicts in the world that are

  • -- date back for centuries.

  • If you look at the Middle East, there are wars and conflict that

  • are rooted in arguments going back a thousand years.

  • In many parts of the world -- let's say,

  • in the continent of Africa -- there are ethnic and tribal

  • conflicts that are very hard to resolve.

  • And obviously, right now, as President of the United States,

  • part of my job is to serve as Commander-in-Chief,

  • and my first priority is to protect the American people.

  • And because of the attacks on 9/11 and the terrorism that has

  • been taking place around the world where innocent people are

  • being killed, it is my obligation to make sure that we

  • root out these terrorist organizations,

  • and that we cooperate with other countries in terms of dealing

  • with this kind of violence.

  • Nevertheless, although I don't think that we can ever

  • completely eliminate violence between nations or between

  • peoples, I think that we can definitely reduce the violence

  • between peoples -- through dialogue,

  • through the exchange of ideas, through greater understanding

  • between peoples and between cultures.

  • And particularly now when just one individual can detonate a

  • bomb that causes so much destruction,

  • it is more important than ever that we pursue these strategies for peace.

  • Technology is a powerful instrument for good,

  • but it has also given the possibility for just a few

  • people to cause enormous damage.

  • And that's why I'm hopeful that in my meetings with President Hu

  • and on an ongoing basis, both the United States and China can

  • work together to try to reduce conflicts that are taking place.

  • We have to do so, though, also keeping in mind that when we use

  • our military, because we're such big and strong countries,

  • that we have to be self-reflective about what we

  • do; that we have to examine our own motives and our own

  • interests to make sure that we are not simply using our

  • military forces because nobody can stop us.

  • That's a burden that great countries, great powers, have,

  • is to act responsibly in the community of nations.

  • And my hope is, is that the United States and China together

  • can help to create an international norms that reduce

  • conflict around the world.

  • Okay?

  • All right?

  • (applause)

  • Jon -- I'm going to call on my Ambassador because I think he

  • has a question that was generated through the Web site

  • of our embassy.

  • This was selected, though, by I think one of the members of our

  • U.S. press corps so that --

  • Ambassador Huntsman: That's right.

  • And not surprisingly, "in a country with 350 million

  • Internet users and 60 million bloggers,

  • do you know of the firewall?"

  • And second, "should we be able to use Twitter freely" --

  • is the question.

  • President Obama: Well, first of all, let me say that I have never used Twitter.

  • I notice that young people -- they're very busy with all these electronics.

  • My thumbs are too clumsy to type in things on the phone.

  • But I am a big believer in technology and I'm a big

  • believer in openness when it comes to the flow of information.

  • I think that the more freely information flows,

  • the stronger the society becomes,

  • because then citizens of countries around the world can

  • hold their own governments accountable.

  • They can begin to think for themselves.

  • That generates new ideas.

  • It encourages creativity.

  • And so I've always been a strong supporter of open Internet use.

  • I'm a big supporter of non-censorship.

  • This is part of the tradition of the United States that I

  • discussed before, and I recognize that different

  • countries have different traditions.

  • I can tell you that in the United States,

  • the fact that we have free Internet --

  • or unrestricted Internet access is a source of strength,

  • and I think should be encouraged.

  • Now, I should tell you, I should be honest,

  • as President of the United States,

  • there are times where I wish information didn't flow so

  • freely because then I wouldn't have to listen to people

  • criticizing me all the time.

  • I think people naturally are -- when they're in positions of

  • power sometimes thinks, oh, how could that person say that about

  • me, or that's irresponsible, or --

  • but the truth is that because in the United States information is

  • free, and I have a lot of critics in the United States who

  • can say all kinds of things about me,

  • I actually think that that makes our democracy stronger and it

  • makes me a better leader because it forces me to hear opinions

  • that I don't want to hear.

  • It forces me to examine what I'm doing on a day-to-day basis to

  • see, am I really doing the very best that I could be doing for

  • the people of the United States.

  • And I think the Internet has become an even more powerful

  • tool for that kind of citizen participation.

  • In fact, one of the reasons that I won the presidency was because

  • we were able to mobilize young people like yourself to get

  • involved through the Internet.

  • Initially, nobody thought we could win because we didn't have

  • necessarily the most wealthy supporters;

  • we didn't have the most powerful political brokers.

  • But through the Internet, people became excited about our

  • campaign and they started to organize and meet and set up

  • campaign activities and events and rallies.

  • And it really ended up creating the kind of bottom-up movement

  • that allowed us to do very well.

  • Now, that's not just true in -- for government and politics.

  • It's also true for business.

  • You think about a company like Google that only 20 years ago

  • was -- less than 20 years ago -- was the idea of a couple of

  • people not much older than you.

  • It was a science project.

  • And suddenly because of the Internet,

  • they were able to create an industry that has revolutionized

  • commerce all around the world.

  • So if it had not been for the freedom and the openness that

  • the Internet allows, Google wouldn't exist.

  • So I'm a big supporter of not restricting Internet use,

  • Internet access, other information technologies like Twitter.

  • The more open we are, the more we can communicate.

  • And it also helps to draw the world together.

  • Think about -- when I think about my daughters,

  • Malia and Sasha -- one's 11, one is eight --

  • from their room, they can get on the Internet and they can travel

  • to Shanghai.

  • They can go anyplace in the world and they can learn about

  • anything they want to learn about.

  • And that's just an enormous power that they have.

  • And that helps, I think, promote the kind of understanding that

  • we talked about.

  • Now, as I said before, there's always a downside to technology.

  • It also means that terrorists are able to organize on the

  • Internet in ways that they might not have been able to do before.

  • Extremists can mobilize.

  • And so there's some price that you pay for openness,

  • there's no denying that.

  • But I think that the good outweighs the bad so much that

  • it's better to maintain that openness.

  • And that's part of why I'm so glad that the Internet was part

  • of this forum.

  • Okay?

  • I'm going to take two more questions.

  • And the next one is from a gentleman, I think, right?

  • Right here, yes.

  • Here's the microphone.

  • Audience Member: First, I'd like to say that it is a great honor for me to stand

  • here to ask you the questions.

  • I think I am so lucky and just appreciate that your speech is

  • so clear that I really do not need such kind of headset.

  • (laughter)

  • And here comes my question.

  • My name is -- (inaudible) -- from Fudan University School of Management.

  • And I would like to ask you the question --

  • is that now that someone has asked you something about the

  • Nobel Peace Prize, but I will not ask you in the same aspect.

  • I want to ask you in the other aspect that since it is very

  • hard for you to get such kind of an honorable prize,

  • and I wonder and we all wonder that --

  • how you struggled to get it.

  • And what's your university/college education

  • that brings you to get such kind of prizes?

  • And we are very curious about it and we'd like to invite you to

  • share with us your campus education experiences so as to

  • go on the road of success.

  • President Obama: Well, first of all, let me tell you that I don't know if there's

  • a curriculum or course of study that leads you to win the Nobel Peace Prize.

  • (laughter)

  • So I can't guarantee that.

  • But I think the recipe for success is the one that you are

  • already following.

  • Obviously all of you are working very hard,

  • you're studying very hard.

  • You're curious.

  • You're willing to think about new ideas and think for yourself.

  • You know, the people who I meet now that I find most inspiring

  • who are successful I think are people who are not only willing

  • to work very hard but are constantly trying to improve

  • themselves and to think in new ways,

  • and not just accept the conventional wisdom.

  • Obviously there are many different paths to success,

  • and some of you are going to be going into government service;

  • some of you might want to be teachers or professors;

  • some of you might want to be businesspeople.

  • But I think that whatever field you go into,

  • if you're constantly trying to improve and never satisfied with

  • not having done your best, and constantly asking new questions --

  • "Are there things that I could be doing differently?

  • Are there new approaches to problems that nobody's thought

  • of before, whether it's in science or technology or in the arts?"

  • -- those are usually the people who I think are able to rise

  • above the rest.

  • The one last piece of advice, though,

  • that I would have that has been useful for me is the people who

  • I admire the most and are most successful,

  • they're not just thinking only about themselves but they're

  • also thinking about something larger than themselves.

  • So they want to make a contribution to society.

  • They want to make a contribution to their country, their nation,

  • their city.

  • They are interested in having an impact beyond their own

  • immediate lives.

  • I think so many of us, we get caught up with wanting to make

  • money for ourselves and have a nice car and have a nice house

  • and -- all those things are important,

  • but the people who really make their mark on the world,

  • it's because they have a bigger ambition.

  • They say, how can I help feed hungry people?

  • Or, how can I help to teach children who don't have an education?

  • Or, how can I bring about peaceful resolution of conflicts?

  • Those are the people I think who end up making such a big

  • difference in the world.

  • And I'm sure that young people like you are going to be able to

  • make that kind of difference as long as you keep working the way

  • you've been working.

  • All right?

  • All right, this is going to be the last question, unfortunately.

  • We've run out of time so quickly.

  • Our last Internet question, because I want to make sure that

  • we got all three of our fine students here.

  • Internet Question Reader: Mr. President, it's a great honor for the last question.

  • And I'm a college student from Fudan University,

  • and today I'm also the representative of China's Youth -- (inaudible).

  • And this question I think is from Beijing: Paid great

  • attention to your Afghanistan policies,

  • and he would like to know whether terrorism is still the

  • greatest security concern for the United States?

  • And how do you assess the military actions in Afghanistan,

  • or whether it will turn into another Iraqi war?

  • Thank you very much.

  • President Obama: I think that's an excellent question.

  • Well, first of all, I do continue to believe that the

  • greatest threat to United States' security are the

  • terrorist networks like al Qaeda.

  • And the reason is, is because even though they are small in

  • number, what they have shown is, is that they have no conscience

  • when it comes to the destruction of innocent civilians.

  • And because of technology today, if an organization like that got

  • a weapon of mass destruction on its hands --

  • a nuclear or a chemical or a biological weapon --

  • and they used it in a city, whether it's in Shanghai or New

  • York, just a few individuals could potentially kill tens of

  • thousands of people, maybe hundreds of thousands.

  • So it really does pose an extraordinary threat.

  • Now, the reason we originally went into Afghanistan was

  • because al Qaeda was in Afghanistan,

  • being hosted by the Taliban.

  • They have now moved over the border of Afghanistan and they

  • are in Pakistan now, but they continue to have networks with

  • other extremist organizations in that region.

  • And I do believe that it is important for us to stabilize

  • Afghanistan so that the people of Afghanistan can protect

  • themselves, but they can also be a partner in reducing the power

  • of these extremist networks.

  • Now, obviously it is a very difficult thing --

  • one of the hardest things about my job is ordering young men and

  • women into the battlefield.

  • I often have to meet with the mothers and fathers of the

  • fallen, those who do not come home.

  • And it is a great weight on me.

  • It gives me a heavy heart.

  • Fortunately, our Armed Services is --

  • the young men and women who participate,

  • they believe so strongly in their service to their country

  • that they are willing to go.

  • And I think that it is possible --

  • working in a broader coalition with our allies in NATO and

  • others that are contributing like Australia --

  • to help train the Afghans so that they have a functioning

  • government, that they have their own security forces,

  • and then slowly we can begin to pull our troops out because

  • there's no longer that vacuum that existed after the Taliban left.

  • But it's a difficult task.

  • It's not easy.

  • And ultimately I think in trying to defeat these terrorist

  • extremists, it's important to understand it's not just a

  • military exercise.

  • We also have to think about what motivates young people to become

  • terrorists, why would they become suicide bombers.

  • And although there are obviously a lot of different reasons,

  • including I think the perversion of religion,

  • in thinking that somehow these kinds of violence acts are

  • appropriate, part of what's happened in places like Pakistan

  • and Afghanistan is these young people have no education,

  • they have no opportunities, and so they see no way for them to

  • move forward in life, and that leads them into thinking that

  • this is their only option.

  • And so part of what we want to do in Afghanistan is to find

  • ways that we can train teachers and create schools and improve

  • agriculture so that people have a greater sense of hope.

  • That won't change the ideas of a Osama bin Laden who are very

  • ideologically fixed on trying to strike at the West,

  • but it will change the pool of young people who they can

  • recruit from.

  • And that is at least as important,

  • if not more important over time, as whatever military actions

  • that we can take.

  • Okay?

  • All right, I have had a wonderful time.

  • I am so grateful to all of you.

  • First of all, let me say I'm very impressed with all of your English.

  • Clearly you've been studying very hard.

  • And having a chance to meet with all of you I think has given me

  • great hope for the future of U.S.-China relations.

  • I hope that many of you have the opportunity to come and travel

  • and visit the United States.

  • You will be welcome.

  • I think you will find that the American people feel very warmly

  • towards the people of China.

  • And I am very confident that, with young people like

  • yourselves and the young people that I know in the United

  • States, that our two great countries will continue to

  • prosper and help to bring about a more peaceful and secure world.

  • So thank you very much everybody.

  • Thank you.

  • (applause)

President Obama: (greets the audience in Chinese)

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