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  • Did you know that 15 minutes of stress are enough to change the sex

  • of some regions of the brain?

  • From the male form to the female form or from the female form to the male form?

  • I didn't know that either, but when I discovered this fact

  • it transformed the way I was thinking about sex and brain.

  • It all started about four years ago

  • when I decided to give a course on the psychology of gender.

  • I stayed home for almost a year and read books and scientific papers

  • on the development of men and women from the moment of conception.

  • As a neuroscientist I was, of course, interested

  • in the relation between sex and brain.

  • I soon found out that many scientists, just like most of us,

  • believe that there are male brains and female brains,

  • and that this is the reason for the fundamental differences

  • between men and women.

  • According to a very popular version of this story,

  • the female brain has a large emotion center

  • and a large communications center; it is hard-wired for empathy.

  • The male brain, on the other hand, has a large aggression center,

  • and a large sex center; it is hard-wired for building systems.

  • Maybe you thought of something else but this is a scientific theory after all.

  • (Laughter)

  • This is a very popular theory or very popular story, because it gives us

  • a very simple explanation to the world we live in.

  • It explains why women are more sensitive and emotional

  • and men more aggressive and sexual.

  • Why most teachers are women and most engineers men.

  • Already in the womb, the story continues, the huge surge of testosterone

  • transforms the brain of the male fetus

  • from the default female form to the male form.

  • So boys are born with a male brain and girls are born with a female brain.

  • Whereas the notion of a male brain and a female brain

  • fits well the popular view of men from Mars, women from Venus,

  • it does not fit scientific data, which tell us that men and women

  • are remarkably similar.

  • In the past 50 years or so, over 50,000 papers have been published

  • on sex differences in psychology.

  • I haven't read them all, even a year is not enough,

  • but others have and their conclusion based on this enormous number of studies

  • is that men and women are highly similar

  • in almost everything psychologists can measure.

  • Intellectual abilities, cognitive abilities,

  • emotional abilities, personality characteristics,

  • interest and attitudes.

  • There are only a few domains in which consistent sex differences are found.

  • For example,

  • men are on average, not all of them, but on average, more aggressive

  • than women. So we call aggression a masculine trait.

  • Women are on average more compassionate than men,

  • so we call this the feminine trait.

  • But also in these domains men and women are highly similar,

  • and the differences are very small.

  • Even more important, we now know that each of us is a unique mosaic

  • of both masculine and feminine characteristics;

  • we are not all masculine and are not all feminine.

  • I guess you already knew that, not about me, but about yourself,

  • that you have a feminine side and a masculine side.

  • I will come back to this image of ourself as a unique mosaic

  • of masculine and feminine characteristics a little later.

  • But now let's go back to the brain.

  • Already at the end of the 19th century

  • scientists discovered a difference between the brains of men

  • and the brains of women.

  • They discovered that the brains of men were on average larger

  • than the brains of women.

  • Some scientists took this as evidence to support and explain

  • the then widely held belief that men are smarter than women.

  • One scientist even went as far as stating that women, because of the small brain,

  • do not have the intellectual and academic skills necessary for academic studies.

  • If this logic sounds familiar, this is not an accident.

  • This is the same belief we started with,

  • that men and women are fundamentally different

  • because men have male brains and women have female brains.

  • However this is an old version of the myth, so it sounds absurd.

  • Today, when women not only go to universities,

  • but outnumber men at all level of academic studies,

  • it sounds ridiculous that scientists could have believed

  • that women could not go to universities because their brains

  • were on average smaller than the brains of men.

  • Now don't get me wrong, women’s brains

  • are still on average smaller than men brains.

  • What has changed is not the size of the brain;

  • what has changed is social norms and laws that prohibited

  • and disencouraged women from study.

  • In the more than 100 years that have passed

  • scientists continue to discover differences

  • between the brains of males and females in both humans and animals.

  • For example, compared to men, women have a thicker cortex,

  • a higher proportion of grey matter, and a lower proportion of white matter.

  • Compared to women, men have larger ventricles.

  • These big holes you see in the brain.

  • (Laughter)

  • I see that some of you that were very happy to discover

  • about the fact that men have bigger brains than women

  • are not really happy with this discovery.

  • And I can understand this because if you believe,

  • like the scientists from the 19th century,

  • that the size of the brain matters,

  • then indeed you will be embarrassed to discover that your bigger brains

  • come together with the bigger -- what shall we call them? Empty spaces?

  • But I want to convey the message that this is all nonsense;

  • men do just fine with their larger ventricles.

  • (Laughter)

  • Just as women do just fine with their smaller brains.

  • We now know of hundreds of differences between the brains of men and women.

  • Not just differences in the size as I've just shown you,

  • but also differences in the microanatomy of the brain

  • and I'll show you an example shortly.

  • And as more and more differences have been discovered,

  • the belief that there is a male brain and a female brain

  • has become stronger and stronger

  • because everyone was taking for granted the assumption that these differences

  • were adding one to the other as I've depicted in this figure.

  • At first this sounded completely logical to me;

  • there are many differences between the brains of males and females,

  • so there must be a male brain and a female brain.

  • But then I read the paper I told you about in the beginning,

  • the one that found that stress can change the sex of the brain,

  • and I realized that this logic was flawed.

  • Let's look at this study together.

  • In this study the researchers were interested in the effects of stress

  • on a brain region called the hippocampus.

  • They measured the density of dendritic spines.

  • You see here a neuron with its dendrite

  • and the small red dots are the dendritic spines.

  • And here we can see an actual dendrite

  • from a male rat and a dendrite from a female rat,

  • and I added red arrows so it is easier to detect the spines.

  • And we can clearly see a sex difference.

  • Males have have fewer spines compared to females.

  • Cherish this moment, this is the first time you actually get to see

  • the sex difference in the brain.

  • So we can say dendrites in this region have a male form

  • which is sparse spines and a female form which is dense spines.

  • There was another group of rats in this study;

  • these rats were stressed for 15 minutes;

  • as long as this talk, so you can think what is happening to my brain now.

  • (Laughter)

  • And here we can see a dendrite from a stressed male

  • and a dendrite from a stressed female.

  • Strangely enough, the dendrite from the stressed male

  • has what we have just termed the female form, that is, lots of spines.

  • And the dendrite from the stressed female

  • has what we have just termed the male form, which is few spines.

  • So we see that the form of dendrites in this region depends on sex;

  • it is different in males and in females. But it does not depend only on sex.

  • Knowing that the dendrite you are looking at is from a female

  • is not enough to predict the form of the dendrite.

  • whether you have few spines or lots of spines.

  • To predict this you also need to know

  • whether this female was under stress or wasn't.

  • So though sex is important it is interaction of sex and environment,

  • in this case stress, that determines the form of neurons in this region.

  • As you may imagine, I was very surprised by this study.

  • So I started to look for other similar studies.

  • It wasn't really hard to find them.

  • There were studies reporting similar effects of stress

  • when the stress was experienced in utero, just after birth and in adulthood.

  • There also similar effects following other manipulations.

  • For example, whether the rats were housed individually or in groups,

  • whether they had things to play with or didn't.

  • The different manipulations affected many brain regions, not just the hippocampus.

  • And many features of the brain such as the size, number of neurons

  • and dendritic morphology as I've just shown.

  • What was common to all of these studies

  • was the finding that, whatever the manipulation,

  • some features of the brain changed their sex and some didn't.

  • You may be wondering now, "So what is the meaning

  • of talking about the sex of a brain region,

  • if we see that simple manipulations can reverse what is male and what is female?"

  • You are absolutely right, it is meaningless

  • to talk of the male form and the female form.

  • It makes much more sense, it's much more reasonable

  • and rational to use informative terms such as sparse versus dense,

  • high versus low, long versus short.

  • But I will continue to use this male-female terminology,

  • because this will help me make my point clear.

  • Let's go back now to the male fetus,

  • and to the testosterone surge that is transforming his brain

  • from the female form to the male form, and not only one component, stress.

  • Picture the fetus mother during the long weeks of pregnancy.

  • She sometimes experiences stress,

  • not all the time, but sometimes she experiences stress.

  • Whenever she does some features of her fetus brain change their sex.

  • So when her boy is born, his brain is a mosaic

  • of both male and female characteristics.

  • This mosaic is uniquely his.

  • Molded by the complex interactions of his hormones

  • with the environment he has been living in up until now.

  • The same is true for the female fetus. Her brain is also molded

  • by complex interactions of hormones and environment,

  • so that the little girl is also born with the mosaic or brain mosaic

  • composed of female and male characteristics.

  • So we see that we are already born

  • with the brain which is neither male nor female.

  • It is intersex that is a mixture of both male and female characteristics.

  • This, or our, intersex brain will continue to change throughout our life

  • as a result of our unique experiences.

  • We can now add to the image of ourselves as a unique mosaic

  • of masculine and feminine characteristics,

  • our image of our brain being a unique mosaic

  • of male and female characteristics.

  • I will close with this.

  • Many people believe that there are male brains and female brains,

  • because this belief gives them an explanation

  • to why men and women are so different,

  • and why they should behave differently and be treated differently.

  • I have shown you today that it is meaningless

  • to talk of the sex of the brain.

  • Brains do not have sex.

  • If you must relate to the brain's sex, you can call it intersex,

  • a mixture of male and female characteristics.

  • There are no male brains and no female brains.

  • Therefore, their existence cannot explain fundamental differences

  • between men and women.

  • Which is not really a big problem considering the fact

  • that men and women are remarkably similar.

  • Be yourself. (Laughter)

  • Thank you.

  • (Applause)

Did you know that 15 minutes of stress are enough to change the sex

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TEDx】TEDxJaffa -- ダフナ・ジョエル -- 脳は男性か女性か? (【TEDx】TEDxJaffa -- Daphna Joel -- Are brains male or female?)

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    Li Chia Hung に公開 2021 年 01 月 14 日
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