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  • So I'm a doctor, but I kind of slipped sideways into research,

  • and now I'm an epidemiologist.

  • And nobody really knows what epidemiology is.

  • Epidemiology is the science of how we know in the real world

  • if something is good for you or bad for you.

  • And it's best understood through example

  • as the science of those crazy, wacky newspaper headlines.

  • And these are just some of the examples.

  • These are from the Daily Mail. Every country in the world has a newspaper like this.

  • It has this bizarre, ongoing philosophical project

  • of dividing all the inanimate objects in the world

  • into the ones that either cause or prevent cancer.

  • So here are some of the things they said cause cancer recently:

  • divorce, Wi-Fi, toiletries and coffee.

  • Here are some of the things they say prevents cancer:

  • crusts, red pepper, licorice and coffee.

  • So already you can see there are contradictions.

  • Coffee both causes and prevents cancer.

  • And as you start to read on, you can see

  • that maybe there's some kind of political valence behind some of this.

  • So for women, housework prevents breast cancer,

  • but for men, shopping could make you impotent.

  • So we know that we need to start

  • unpicking the science behind this.

  • And what I hope to show

  • is that unpicking dodgy claims,

  • unpicking the evidence behind dodgy claims,

  • isn't a kind of nasty carping activity;

  • it's socially useful,

  • but it's also an extremely valuable

  • explanatory tool.

  • Because real science is all about

  • critically appraising the evidence for somebody else's position.

  • That's what happens in academic journals.

  • That's what happens at academic conferences.

  • The Q&A session after a post-op presents data

  • is often a blood bath.

  • And nobody minds that. We actively welcome it.

  • It's like a consenting intellectual S&M activity.

  • So what I'm going to show you

  • is all of the main things,

  • all of the main features of my discipline --

  • evidence-based medicine.

  • And I will talk you through all of these

  • and demonstrate how they work,

  • exclusively using examples of people getting stuff wrong.

  • So we'll start with the absolute weakest form of evidence known to man,

  • and that is authority.

  • In science, we don't care how many letters you have after your name.

  • In science, we want to know what your reasons are for believing something.

  • How do you know that something is good for us

  • or bad for us?

  • But we're also unimpressed by authority,

  • because it's so easy to contrive.

  • This is somebody called Dr. Gillian McKeith Ph.D,

  • or, to give her full medical title, Gillian McKeith.

  • (Laughter)

  • Again, every country has somebody like this.

  • She is our TV diet guru.

  • She has massive five series of prime-time television,

  • giving out very lavish and exotic health advice.

  • She, it turns out, has a non-accredited correspondence course Ph.D.

  • from somewhere in America.

  • She also boasts that she's a certified professional member

  • of the American Association of Nutritional Consultants,

  • which sounds very glamorous and exciting.

  • You get a certificate and everything.

  • This one belongs to my dead cat Hetti. She was a horrible cat.

  • You just go to the website, fill out the form,

  • give them $60, and it arrives in the post.

  • Now that's not the only reason that we think this person is an idiot.

  • She also goes and says things like,

  • you should eat lots of dark green leaves,

  • because they contain lots of chlorophyll, and that will really oxygenate your blood.

  • And anybody who's done school biology remembers

  • that chlorophyll and chloroplasts

  • only make oxygen in sunlight,

  • and it's quite dark in your bowels after you've eaten spinach.

  • Next, we need proper science, proper evidence.

  • So, "Red wine can help prevent breast cancer."

  • This is a headline from the Daily Telegraph in the U.K.

  • "A glass of red wine a day could help prevent breast cancer."

  • So you go and find this paper, and what you find

  • is it is a real piece of science.

  • It is a description of the changes in one enzyme

  • when you drip a chemical extracted from some red grape skin

  • onto some cancer cells

  • in a dish on a bench in a laboratory somewhere.

  • And that's a really useful thing to describe

  • in a scientific paper,

  • but on the question of your own personal risk

  • of getting breast cancer if you drink red wine,

  • it tells you absolutely bugger all.

  • Actually, it turns out that your risk of breast cancer

  • actually increases slightly

  • with every amount of alcohol that you drink.

  • So what we want is studies in real human people.

  • And here's another example.

  • This is from Britain's leading diet and nutritionist in the Daily Mirror,

  • which is our second biggest selling newspaper.

  • "An Australian study in 2001

  • found that olive oil in combination with fruits, vegetables and pulses

  • offers measurable protection against skin wrinklings."

  • And then they give you advice:

  • "If you eat olive oil and vegetables, you'll have fewer skin wrinkles."

  • And they very helpfully tell you how to go and find the paper.

  • So you go and find the paper, and what you find is an observational study.

  • Obviously nobody has been able

  • to go back to 1930,

  • get all the people born in one maternity unit,

  • and half of them eat lots of fruit and veg and olive oil,

  • and then half of them eat McDonald's,

  • and then we see how many wrinkles you've got later.

  • You have to take a snapshot of how people are now.

  • And what you find is, of course,

  • people who eat veg and olive oil have fewer skin wrinkles.

  • But that's because people who eat fruit and veg and olive oil,

  • they're freaks, they're not normal, they're like you;

  • they come to events like this.

  • They are posh, they're wealthy, they're less likely to have outdoor jobs,

  • they're less likely to do manual labor,

  • they have better social support, they're less likely to smoke --

  • so for a whole host of fascinating, interlocking

  • social, political and cultural reasons,

  • they are less likely to have skin wrinkles.

  • That doesn't mean that it's the vegetables or the olive oil.

  • (Laughter)

  • So ideally what you want to do is a trial.

  • And everybody thinks they're very familiar with the idea of a trial.

  • Trials are very old. The first trial was in the Bible -- Daniel 1:12.

  • It's very straightforward -- you take a bunch of people, you split them in half,

  • you treat one group one way, you treat the other group the other way,

  • and a little while later, you follow them up

  • and see what happened to each of them.

  • So I'm going to tell you about one trial,

  • which is probably the most well-reported trial

  • in the U.K. news media over the past decade.

  • And this is the trial of fish oil pills.

  • And the claim was fish oil pills improve school performance and behavior

  • in mainstream children.

  • And they said, "We've done a trial.

  • All the previous trials were positive, and we know this one's gonna be too."

  • That should always ring alarm bells.

  • Because if you already know the answer to your trial, you shouldn't be doing one.

  • Either you've rigged it by design,

  • or you've got enough data so there's no need to randomize people anymore.

  • So this is what they were going to do in their trial.

  • They were taking 3,000 children,

  • they were going to give them all these huge fish oil pills,

  • six of them a day,

  • and then a year later, they were going to measure their school exam performance

  • and compare their school exam performance

  • against what they predicted their exam performance would have been

  • if they hadn't had the pills.

  • Now can anybody spot a flaw in this design?

  • And no professors of clinical trial methodology

  • are allowed to answer this question.

  • So there's no control; there's no control group.

  • But that sounds really techie.

  • That's a technical term.

  • The kids got the pills, and then their performance improved.

  • What else could it possibly be if it wasn't the pills?

  • They got older. We all develop over time.

  • And of course, also there's the placebo effect.

  • The placebo effect is one of the most fascinating things in the whole of medicine.

  • It's not just about taking a pill, and your performance and your pain getting better.

  • It's about our beliefs and expectations.

  • It's about the cultural meaning of a treatment.

  • And this has been demonstrated in a whole raft of fascinating studies

  • comparing one kind of placebo against another.

  • So we know, for example, that two sugar pills a day

  • are a more effective treatment for getting rid of gastric ulcers

  • than one sugar pill.

  • Two sugar pills a day beats one sugar pill a day.

  • And that's an outrageous and ridiculous finding, but it's true.

  • We know from three different studies on three different types of pain

  • that a saltwater injection is a more effective treatment for pain

  • than taking a sugar pill, taking a dummy pill that has no medicine in it --

  • not because the injection or the pills do anything physically to the body,

  • but because an injection feels like a much more dramatic intervention.

  • So we know that our beliefs and expectations

  • can be manipulated,

  • which is why we do trials

  • where we control against a placebo --

  • where one half of the people get the real treatment

  • and the other half get placebo.

  • But that's not enough.

  • What I've just shown you are examples of the very simple and straightforward ways

  • that journalists and food supplement pill peddlers

  • and naturopaths

  • can distort evidence for their own purposes.

  • What I find really fascinating

  • is that the pharmaceutical industry

  • uses exactly the same kinds of tricks and devices,

  • but slightly more sophisticated versions of them,

  • in order to distort the evidence that they give to doctors and patients,

  • and which we use to make vitally important decisions.

  • So firstly, trials against placebo:

  • everybody thinks they know that a trial should be

  • a comparison of your new drug against placebo.

  • But actually in a lot of situations that's wrong.

  • Because often we already have a very good treatment that is currently available,

  • so we don't want to know that your alternative new treatment

  • is better than nothing.

  • We want to know that it's better than the best currently available treatment that we have.

  • And yet, repeatedly, you consistently see people doing trials

  • still against placebo.

  • And you can get license to bring your drug to market

  • with only data showing that it's better than nothing,

  • which is useless for a doctor like me trying to make a decision.

  • But that's not the only way you can rig your data.

  • You can also rig your data

  • by making the thing you compare your new drug against

  • really rubbish.

  • You can give the competing drug in too low a dose,

  • so that people aren't properly treated.

  • You can give the competing drug in too high a dose,

  • so that people get side effects.

  • And this is exactly what happened

  • which antipsychotic medication for schizophrenia.

  • 20 years ago, a new generation of antipsychotic drugs were brought in

  • and the promise was that they would have fewer side effects.

  • So people set about doing trials of these new drugs

  • against the old drugs,

  • but they gave the old drugs in ridiculously high doses --

  • 20 milligrams a day of haloperidol.

  • And it's a foregone conclusion,

  • if you give a drug at that high a dose,

  • that it will have more side effects and that your new drug will look better.

  • 10 years ago, history repeated itself, interestingly,

  • when risperidone, which was the first of the new-generation antipscyhotic drugs,

  • came off copyright, so anybody could make copies.

  • Everybody wanted to show that their drug was better than risperidone,

  • so you see a bunch of trials comparing new antipsychotic drugs

  • against risperidone at eight milligrams a day.

  • Again, not an insane dose, not an illegal dose,

  • but very much at the high end of normal.

  • And so you're bound to make your new drug look better.

  • And so it's no surprise that overall,

  • industry-funded trials

  • are four times more likely to give a positive result

  • than independently sponsored trials.

  • But -- and it's a big but --

  • (Laughter)

  • it turns out,

  • when you look at the methods used by industry-funded trials,

  • that they're actually better

  • than independently sponsored trials.

  • And yet, they always manage to to get the result that they want.

  • So how does this work?

  • How can we explain this strange phenomenon?

  • Well it turns out that what happens

  • is the negative data goes missing in action;

  • it's withheld from doctors and patients.

  • And this is the most important aspect of the whole story.

  • It's at the top of the pyramid of evidence.

  • We need to have all of the data on a particular treatment

  • to know whether or not it really is effective.

  • And there are two different ways that you can spot

  • whether some data has gone missing in action.

  • You can use statistics, or you can use stories.

  • I personally prefer statistics, so that's what I'm going to do first.

  • This is something called funnel plot.

  • And a funnel plot is a very clever way of spotting

  • if small negative trials have disappeared, have gone missing in action.

  • So this is a graph of all of the trials

  • that have been done on a particular treatment.

  • And as you go up towards the top of the graph,

  • what you see is each dot is a trial.

  • And as you go up, those are the bigger trials, so they've got less error in them.

  • So they're less likely to be randomly false positives, randomly false negatives.

  • So they all cluster together.

  • The big trials are closer to the true answer.

  • Then as you go further down at the bottom,

  • what you can see is, over on this side, the spurious false negatives,

  • and over on this side, the spurious false positives.

  • If there is publication bias,

  • if small negative trials have gone missing in action,

  • you can see it on one of these graphs.

  • So you can see here that the small negative trials

  • that should be on the bottom left have disappeared.

  • This is a graph demonstrating the presence of publication bias

  • in studies of publication bias.

  • And I think that's the funniest epidemiology joke

  • that you will ever hear.

  • That's how you can prove it statistically,

  • but what about stories?

  • Well they're heinous, they really are.

  • This is a drug called reboxetine.

  • This is a drug that I myself have prescribed to patients.

  • And I'm a very nerdy doctor.

  • I hope I try to go out of my way to try and read and understand all the literature.

  • I read the trials on this. They were all positive. They were all well-conducted.

  • I found no flaw.

  • Unfortunately, it turned out,

  • that many of these trials were withheld.

  • In fact, 76 percent

  • of all of the trials that were done on this drug

  • were withheld from doctors and patients.

  • Now if you think about it,

  • if I tossed a coin a hundred times,

  • and I'm allowed to withhold from you

  • the answers half the times,

  • then I can convince you

  • that I have a coin with two heads.

  • If we remove half of the data,

  • we can never know what the true effect size of these medicines is.

  • And this is not an isolated story.

  • Around half of all of the trial data on antidepressants has been withheld,

  • but it goes way beyond that.

  • The Nordic Cochrane Group were trying to get a hold of the data on that

  • to bring it all together.

  • The Cochrane Groups are an international nonprofit collaboration

  • that produce systematic reviews of all of the data that has ever been shown.

  • And they need to have access to all of the trial data.

  • But the companies withheld that data from them,

  • and so did the European Medicines Agency

  • for three years.

  • This is a problem that is currently lacking a solution.

  • And to show how big it goes, this is a drug called Tamiflu,

  • which governments around the world

  • have spent billions and billions of dollars on.

  • And they spend that money on the promise

  • that this is a drug which will reduce the rate

  • of complications with flu.

  • We already have the data

  • showing that it reduces the duration of your flu by a few hours.

  • But I don't really care about that. Governments don't care about that.

  • I'm very sorry if you have the flu, I know it's horrible,

  • but we're not going to spend billions of dollars

  • trying to reduce the duration of your flu symptoms

  • by half a day.

  • We prescribe these drugs, we stockpile them for emergencies

  • on the understanding that they will reduce the number of complications,

  • which means pneumonia and which means death.

  • The infectious diseases Cochrane Group, which are based in Italy,

  • has been trying to get

  • the full data in a usable form out of the drug companies

  • so that they can make a full decision

  • about whether this drug is effective or not,

  • and they've not been able to get that information.

  • This is undoubtedly

  • the single biggest ethical problem

  • facing medicine today.

  • We cannot make decisions

  • in the absence of all of the information.

  • So it's a little bit difficult from there

  • to spin in some kind of positive conclusion.

  • But I would say this:

  • I think that sunlight

  • is the best disinfectant.

  • All of these things are happening in plain sight,

  • and they're all protected

  • by a force field of tediousness.

  • And I think, with all of the problems in science,

  • one of the best things that we can do

  • is to lift up the lid,

  • finger around in the mechanics and peer in.

  • Thank you very much.

  • (Applause)

So I'm a doctor, but I kind of slipped sideways into research,

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TED】ベン・ゴルダクレア。悪しき科学との戦い (【TED】Ben Goldacre: Battling Bad Science)

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