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  • MALE SPEAKER: Today we have the pleasure of having

  • Marc Goodman here with us.

  • Marc Goodman has spent a career in law enforcement

  • and technology.

  • He has served as a street police officer, senior advisor

  • to Interpol, and futurist in residence at the FBI.

  • As the founder of the Future Crimes Institute

  • and the chair for policy, law and ethics

  • at Silicon Valley's Singularity University,

  • he continues to investigate the intriguing and often

  • terrifying intersection of science and security,

  • uncovering nascent threats and combating

  • the darker sides of technology.

  • Let's give a warm welcome to Marc Goodman.

  • MARC GOODMAN: Thanks [INAUDIBLE].

  • Thank you very much.

  • Hi Google.

  • AUDIENCE: Hi.

  • MARC GOODMAN: Hey, how you guys doing?

  • Thanks so much for coming, I really appreciate it.

  • We need to also be thinking about the internet of things,

  • right, because we're going to be attaching a lot more things

  • to the internet.

  • So it's not just the internet of things,

  • it's just more crap to be hacked.

  • We're switching from IPv4 to IPv6,

  • that will mean that our network will grow from about 4

  • and a half billion simultaneous connections to 78 octillion,

  • or 78 billion billion billion.

  • To put it in perspective, today's internet

  • is the size of a golf ball, tomorrow's will

  • be the size of the sun.

  • That means every pet, plate, prisoner, knife, fork, chair,

  • every device will be going online with RFID and near field

  • communication, because they'll basically be free.

  • Our threat surface area is going to expand tremendously.

  • And guess who's excited about this?

  • General Petraeus of the CIA.

  • Right, we will spy on you through your dishwasher.

  • And you guys heard about this Samsung brouhaha?

  • Where Samsung-- who hasn't heard of this?

  • So right now, I have a smart television at home.

  • But in order to change the channel,

  • I have to push a button while I sit

  • my fat ass in a Barcalounger and might

  • burn a billionth of a calorie.

  • So Samsung has solved this problem

  • by allowing for voice interactive TVs.

  • But in order to do that, they had

  • to update their terms of service and say,

  • everything you say to your television

  • we're sending out to third parties.

  • We're processing it, we keep it, and the like.

  • It's in part of their terms of service.

  • And then they said, Samsung did, by the way,

  • if there's something sensitive you

  • want to discuss in your own home,

  • don't say it in front of the television

  • because we're listening.

  • Which didn't make people very happy,

  • so there's a big brouhaha about this.

  • "New York Times" talked about hacking everything

  • from vents to soda machines.

  • And do you guys remember that Target hack?

  • You remember how they got in?

  • Through the air conditioning.

  • Yeah, the HVAC system.

  • The HVAC was connected to the general network which

  • was connected to financial management which was connected

  • to the cash register which was connected

  • to the point of sale terminals.

  • When you have 78 octillion connections,

  • the system complexities are so great.

  • You have no idea what's connected to what.

  • And bad guys are good at finding this out.

  • Of course, refrigerators will be sending spam.

  • This has already happened.

  • This is already happening, right?

  • Oh, and by the way, this has happened too, I'm sorry to say.

  • So a lot of apps now have bitcoin mining malware in them.

  • This is from the Department of Things

  • Not to Connect to the Internet.

  • In Florida, they thought they'd save money

  • by connecting their prisons throughout the state online.

  • It turns out, somebody hacked them and they unlocked

  • all the doors at a maximum security prison in Miami,

  • leading to a riot.

  • Of course, cars are nothing more than computers on wheels,

  • right?

  • 200 chips.

  • And people have hacked those, there

  • was a guy in Austin, Texas that remotely disabled 100 cars.

  • Everything from the air bag to the brakes to the steering

  • can be hacked.

  • And of course, we're putting computers,

  • we're not just writing computers,

  • but we're computers inside ourselves.

  • There are 60,000 pacemakers in the United States

  • and have an IP address and connect to the network.

  • 300,000 implantable medical devices a year.

  • At hacker conferences like Black Hat and DEFCON

  • they're talking about how to hack them.

  • Diabetic pumps.

  • This is something called the Bluetooth Cannon.

  • From a distance of 300 feet, it can

  • find people that have got diabetic pumps

  • and take 45 days worth of insulin

  • and release it in five minutes.

  • Resulting in a condition known as--

  • AUDIENCE: Death.

  • MARC GOODMAN: That's very good.

  • Mostly irreversible, very hard to change.

  • This is my friend Bertolt Meyer.

  • He was born without a left hand.

  • He has one of the most advanced bionic arms and hands

  • in the world.

  • I said, Bertolt tell me how do you control

  • your arm if you need to fix it.

  • He was like, oh, I have an app on my iPhone

  • that controls my hand.

  • I said cool, can I see your phone?

  • He hands me his phone, I start pushing buttons,

  • his hand starts doing this.

  • His body is online.

  • By the way, I didn't need to have the phone

  • because it's Bluetooth.

  • I could have just used Blue Snarf or anything else

  • to hack it.

  • So again, our threat surface area is expanding.

  • And it's not just today's technologies

  • with ones and zeros, but there are other technologies.

  • All the stuff we've been talking today,

  • they've been hacking silicon.

  • But there was another operating system, the original operating

  • system, DNA.

  • We only coded in ones and zeroes because we

  • didn't understand DNA.

  • Now we do.

  • We can write software code in DNA.

  • There are bio hackers.

  • And you can take somebody else's DNA

  • that you recover from a left tissue or a comb or a drinking

  • glass and replicate it.

  • And you can take that DNA and leave it at a crime scene.

  • And according to a study, the cops can't tell the difference.

  • So if you really really hate the guy in the cubicle next to you,

  • this is a fun trick to play on them.

  • Plant their DNA at the scene of a crime.

  • And of course we will have new bio weapons

  • that will be permitted through synthetic biology.

  • Aum Shinrikyo, you guys remember them, subway attack in Tokyo?

  • These guys had a bio program.

  • They had $10 million that they spent from '85 to '95

  • trying to launch a bio attack.

  • The biology wasn't there, so they

  • went with a chemical attack.

  • Today it is.

  • And so we're going to have all of these new issues

  • to deal with, ranging from cloning to discrimination

  • to new forms of identity theft.

  • If you find any this bio hacking stuff interesting,

  • I did an article for "Wired" magazine.

  • That's my ugly mug on the / so every crime

  • that we have today with silicon ones and zeroes,

  • we will have in the future with bio.

  • What's the bottom line?

  • With all of this computing, going golf ball to sun,

  • we're increasingly connected.

  • We're dependent upon these systems, and we're vulnerable.

  • Computers run all our critical infrastructures,

  • from electricity to health care to 911 system.

  • And they're all hackable.

  • There's never been built a computer

  • system that couldn't be hacked.

  • And we keep rushing, connecting more and more stuff to the net,

  • but more connections equals more vulnerability.

  • So what do we do?

  • I'm not saying technology is bad, right?

  • I'm in Silicon Valley.

  • I love tech.

  • Tech is awesome.

  • Fire was the first technology.

  • It could keep you warm at night.

  • It could cook food in your cave, or you

  • could use it to burn down the village next to yours.

  • It's just how we're using it.

  • But make no mistake, there is a war afoot

  • between people that want to use tech for good

  • and people that want to use tech for evil.

  • And in exponential times, the ability of one person

  • to reach out to 100 million or a billion people

  • is a growing problem that we haven't

  • solved how to handle yet.

  • When the entire world is becoming a computer,

  • Marc Andreessen famously said software is eating the world.

  • When maps become GPS devices, when music becomes

  • Spotify and Netflix is movies.

  • Every physical object is becoming a computer.

  • And all computers are run by code.

  • So if you can control the code, in a world where

  • computers run the world, then you can control the world.

  • And the biggest problem is, unlike other times,

  • most people have no idea that they're a victim.

  • If you go out your garage in the morning and look for your car

  • and it's missing, you're like, holy cow, my car was stolen.

  • But when bad guys break into your computer, you don't know.

  • According to a study by the US Secret Service and Verizon,

  • only 6% of hacks of data breaches

  • are picked up by the system administrator.

  • 94% of the time, it's because customers complain,

  • the FBI comes knocking at their door,

  • or a competitor was also hacked.

  • And this is a really scary statistic.

  • This is the time to discovery.

  • On average, it takes an American Fortune 500 company 211 days

  • to know that they're penetrated.

  • Which means that the bad guys are

  • living in your system for nearly seven months,

  • roaming around, putting in back doors,

  • leaving malware, watching and studying

  • everything that you're doing.

  • And in the same study, they said that 75%

  • of American corporations networks

  • could be penetrated in just 15 minutes.

  • So breaking into the information technologies of today

  • is a lot like a hot knife going through butter.

  • It's super easy.

  • And yet all of these computers are the foundations

  • of our modern world.

  • So when they fail, when they're hacked,

  • when that cyber crisis occurs, what is our backup plan?

  • We don't have one.

  • In effect, our modern society's is kind of

  • built on a digital house of cards

  • that can come falling down unless we start to care for.

  • This is how we handle cyber threats today.

  • We arrest people.

  • The problem is that NYPD officer cannot make an address right,

  • in Moscow, or in Canada.

  • Internet broke policing.

  • Policing only works city to city, country to country.

  • International law is horrible for these types

  • of investigations, and therefore we

  • will never investigate or arrest our way out of the cyber threat

  • problem.

  • The two systems are completely mismatched,

  • and yet this is the primary tool we use today.

  • Right, the cops, we're in charge.

  • We're going to handle this.

  • We need to break that paradigm of policing.

  • We need to get the public involved.

  • The bad guys have been really good at crowd sourcing offense.

  • We need to get crowd sourcing on defense on our own security.

  • There are some great examples of that.

  • This was highlighted at Google Ideas, organized crime

  • and corruption project.

  • These guys are crowd sourcing the investigation

  • of dictators and their funds.

  • And in Mexico, where over 50,000 narcotics

  • related homicides have occurred in the past six years,

  • people are using tools like Google Maps

  • to go out there and crowdsource where

  • the dope dealers are at great personal risk to themselves.

  • So open source tools like this, free tools like this,

  • can play a role in helping us to crowdsource our own security.

  • But I think we're going to need to take it a step further.

  • We have reserve Marines, reserve Army, reserve police officers.

  • We have FEMA for national disasters.

  • We have no national cybersecurity reserve corps.

  • And we're definitely going to need one.

  • And folks in this room are the exact type

  • of people that I would recruited into it, because we're

  • going to need your help.

  • Because that big cyber emergency is going to occur,

  • and we have no plan for when it does.

  • The other thing I would offer is that we

  • talk about cyber attacks.

  • We use the language of medicine.

  • We talk about computer infections.

  • We talk about viruses.

  • We use the language of medicine to describe the problem.

  • But we don't use the tools of medicine to solve the problem.

  • What could epidemiology bring to the table, right?

  • What would a World Health Organization for cyber

  • look like?

  • Public health models, epidemiological models I think

  • could go a long way in terms of helping

  • to protect the internet.

  • And by the way, what could we learn from bio-mimicry?

  • Right, nature for four billion years

  • has been building immune system's, resilient systems.

  • How could we learn from biology and nature

  • to drive this forward?

  • Another big challenge is human centered design.

  • Anybody every use like a Norton Utilities product.

  • When my mom uses her software firewall,

  • it says warning, error, MSCX DL3 DLL error at line code this.

  • Do you wish to proceed?

  • That is not helpful to my mom.

  • It's not helpful to me.

  • OK, think about all the beautiful products

  • we have in the world.

  • A Leica camera, a Porsche 911.

  • Whatever those beautiful things are,

  • where's the Johnny Ives of security?

  • The guy that's going to design the most beautiful, human

  • centered design for security.

  • We don't have that.

  • And so because of poor engineering

  • and a lack of designed thinking, we're

  • driving people to make poor security decisions.

  • We need to fix that.

  • And I also think that we need a Manhattan

  • Project for cyber security.

  • We need to get really, really, really intentional about this.

  • And we are not at all.

  • I think you guys about the XPRIZE Foundation?

  • Just a couple miles from here.

  • I'm working with them to launch a $20 million

  • cyber XPRIZE for cyber security.

  • Whether it's a 10-year-old kid in Chennai

  • that's got the answer or an 80-year-old woman in Montreal,

  • I don't care.

  • We need to build more resilient and redundant systems

  • to protect us.

  • The good news is, just to put it all in perspective,

  • we can fix this.

  • Right, President Kennedy said in the 1960s,

  • before this decade is out, we're going to put a man on the moon.

  • We did that, with way worse tech then we have available today.

  • If we could solve that problem, surely we

  • could solve this cyber security problem.

  • And we need to, because technology is awesome.

  • And it's going to bring billions of people out of poverty.

  • It's going to radically extend life.

  • It's going to reduce infant mortality.

  • It's going to educate millions of people they never had access

  • to education previously.

  • But in order to achieve that better future,

  • we're going to get really intentional

  • about protecting against these exponential undersides.

  • The downside of technology.

  • And that's what I'm hoping to do with this book,

  • and I hope you guys will join me in that fight.

  • Thank you so very much.

  • [APPLAUSE]

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