Matthew it's horrible, I mean this would be one of those days that really changed the soul of Sweden, we're captured in violence and it's horrible and the news that 10 people have been victimised in this kind of violence is horrific and everybody is on their toes now, everybody, I mean citizens, police, hospitals, politicians, everybody, there's nothing else in the news in Sweden right now but about this.

マシュー 恐ろしいことだ。スウェーデンの魂が本当に変わるような一日になるだろう。暴力に取り込まれ、恐ろしいことだ。この種の暴力で10人が犠牲になったというニュースは、恐ろしいことだ。今、スウェーデンでは、市民、警察、病院、政治家、みんな、このニュース以外に何もない。

No I'm absolutely sure of that, just tell me some of the basic details that have been reported where you are.

いや、それは間違いない。ただ、あなたがいる場所で報告されている基本的な詳細を教えてほしい。

Well it happened right after lunch at about 12.30 that they started to hear sounds that turned out to be the man shooting, what is believed to be this 35 year old man shooting and I understand that the police was rather fast at the scene, remember this area where this school is, is a really peaceful, beautiful area of Örebro, I used to live there, I lived there for 10 years and something like this is just unimaginable and then all through the afternoon we've been following the news where they haven't really confirmed anything but that there had been the shooting and there were rumours that one person was killed and that the shooter had committed suicide and so forth, we heard that 6 people had been taken to the hospital and that was it until this press conference now when they confirmed that 10 people have died today, this afternoon.

昼食直後の12時30分頃だった。警察が現場に急行したそうですが、この学校があるこの辺りは、オレブロの中でも本当に平和で美しい地域で、私も以前住んでいました、このようなことは想像を絶することです。午後はずっとニュースを見ましたが、何も確認されていませんでした。しかし、銃撃があり、1人が死亡したとか、犯人は自殺したとか、いろいろな噂がありました。

Some of the details coming in as we're speaking now with police also saying they had no warning signs, what is being said about the perpetrator, what is known about him?

今話しているように、警察も警告の兆候はなかったと言っている。

Not much, what I understand is that they have raided his apartment in Örebro to find clues and motives and so far we haven't heard much at all.

私が理解しているのは、手掛りと動機を見つけるためにエーレブロにある彼のアパートを家宅捜索したということで、今のところ詳しい話は聞いていない。

You used to live in the town as you told us, you still have friends who are there, in terms of the conversations you've had, give me a sense of how people are taking in absorbing news like this because this is Sweden we're talking about, you know, I can't remember off the top of my head anything remotely like this happening in recent years.

あなたが以前その町に住んでいたこと、今もその町に友人がいること、あなたが交わした会話から、人々がこのようなニュースをどのように受け止めているのかを感じ取ってほしい。

No Matthew, this is unheard of in Sweden and yes of course I've talked to multiple friends this afternoon in Örebro and had contact with them and I know traumatised might be a strong word but we are in a sense because this is so, this is so scary that this is happening.

もちろん、今日の午後、エーレブロにいる複数の友人と話をしたし、彼らとも連絡を取った。トラウマになったという言葉は強いかもしれないが、ある意味、私たちはそうなんだ。

So I think we're traumatised and now they have a lot of conflict centres in Örebro where people who need to talk about it, relatives, neighbours, just anyone, you know, we need to take care of a lot of people who have been affected in one way or the other by this and they have a lot of centres in Sweden doing that, not just the church but also at the hospital.

だから、私たちは心に傷を負っていると思う。今、エーレブローには多くの紛争センターがあり、そこで話をする必要のある人たち、親族、隣人、誰でも、この件に関して何らかの影響を受けた多くの人たちのケアをする必要がある。

A brief final thought then, the Prime Minister has already put out a statement but I'm sure there'll be updated statements given the developments of the last five or ten minutes, what do people want to hear from the Prime Minister?

首相はすでに声明を発表していますが、この5分か10分の進展を考えると、また新たな声明が発表されると思います。

I think they want to hear that the different political parties in Sweden are coming together to fight something like this, not making politics of it but making it on a national agenda to come together and discuss what needs to be done.

彼らは、スウェーデンのさまざまな政党が一丸となってこのようなことに立ち向かっていること、それを政治的に利用するのではなく、国家的な議題として取り上げ、一丸となって何をなすべきかを議論していることを聞きたいのだと思う。

Nina, we have to leave it there, Nina Jelmgren, a journalist who lived in that town until recently, thank you for joining us here and just to confirm what police have been saying in that news conference, it's still going on so we'll bring you more detail if it comes in that is significant but confirming that ten people have died in this school shooting, they believe that the man acted alone, they say that he is one of the fatalities and of course a number of other people have been taken to hospital and we knew that operations were going on earlier in the day so some of the latest painful details that have been emerging from that news conference.

ニーナ、この辺で失礼します。ニーナ・イェルムグレン、最近までその町に住んでいたジャーナリストです。記者会見で警察が話していることを確認するために、まだ続いているので、重要な情報が入ればもっと詳しくお伝えしますが、この学校での銃撃で10人が死亡したことを確認しました、もちろん、他の多くの人々が病院に搬送され、その日の早い段階で手術が行われていることは知っていました。