Alex is standing by with California governor Gavin Newsom.

アレックスはカリフォルニア州知事のギャビン・ニューサムとスタンバイしている。

Alex Thanks, Rachel Just a few minutes ago governor Donald Trump entered the spin room Yeah, there had been some speculation some rumor rumors earlier in the day that he might pull a trick like that I actually was skeptical because I was able to enter this arena with a large hoagie wrapped in brown paper This was not a highly secure facility for someone who has just survived an assassination attempt.

アレックス ありがとう、レイチェル つい数分前、ドナルド・トランプ知事がスピンルームに入ったんだ。ああ、その日のうちに、彼がそんなトリックを使うかもしれないという憶測がいくつか噂されていた。

Nonetheless He was just here Spinning his spin.

それにもかかわらず、彼はここでスピンをしていた。

What do you think that represents in terms of his assessment an act of desperation?

彼の評価という点では、これは自暴自棄の行為だと思うが？

He knows he got his clock clean from the moment She came out on stage when she introduced himself She had the courage to go over to him shake his hand clearly was uncomfortable and introduced herself as Kamala Harris Kamala Harris She commanded the room from the second.

彼は、彼女が自己紹介でステージに出てきた瞬間から、自分の時計がきれいになったことを知っている。彼女は勇気を出して彼のところへ行き、彼の手を握った。

She came out She was a commander-in-chief and she had him on the defense the entire night If this was a prize fight would have been TKO in the second round She did as well or better than any of us could have hoped for and I know her well enough to know this The best is yet to come she can do that even more with more experience more time on the campaign trail You're going to see the quality of her performance only improve, you know We just played that sound of the exchange she had with Donald Trump on his role in overturning Roe v Wade something at at one point he said he had done a great service to the country by appointing the Supreme Court justices who overturned Roe and Then said it was what everybody wanted When you think about the issue that could decide the election that could be the whole ballgame Well the way she was able to humanize that and talk about 12 and 13 year olds that have been raped that are clutching Teddy bears as they're giving birth to the rapist babies I mean what she didn't say is those same 12 and 13 year olds in Mississippi There was one girl that had to bring her kid to seventh grade.

もしこれが賞金首決定戦なら、彼女は第2ラウンドでTKOだっただろう。彼女は私たちの誰もが期待した通り、あるいはそれ以上の結果を残した、ロー対ウェイド裁判を覆す役割を果たしたドナルド・トランプと彼女が交わしたやりとりの音声を流しましたが、彼はロー対ウェイド裁判を覆した最高裁判事を任命することで、国に大きな貢献をしたと述べました。彼女は、レイプされた12歳や13歳の子どもたちがテディベアを握りしめながらレイプ犯の赤ん坊を産んでいることを話し、それを人間らしく表現した。

That's Donald Trump's America She was able to bring that to light and in a deeply emotional way that was the the most significant and consequential moment of the debate because she spoke for millions and millions and millions of women and Parents like me with two daughters.

それがドナルド・トランプのアメリカなのです。彼女はそれを明るみに出すことができ、深く感情的な方法で、討論会で最も重要で結果的な瞬間となりました。

That was a significant significant moment And here's why it was significant as well, and it's not an indictment of Joe Biden by any stretch of the imagination But it shows the differentiator.

ジョー・バイデンを非難するものではないが、差別化を示すものだ。

Yeah, it shows what she is able to bring in terms of her communication particularly on issues like that to a whole nother level and now to this new and Expanded audience and that goes back to why Donald Trump was in the spin room.

そしてそれは、ドナルド・トランプがスピンルームにいた理由にもつながる。

It was a bad night for him Yeah her ability to talk about abortion in a deeply emotional way is resonant enough that I think it's not just about fathers of daughters or women but men people all over the country Understand the gravity of those situations people are sick sick of the way women have been treated in this country sick of the way the LGBTQ community has been treated in this country sick of how immigrants have been treated in this country the african-american community They're sick of it That was another great part of this debate near the end when we talked about the issues of race and she elevated that in a Way that gave it I saw there was a young girl a young african-american girl in the spin room She walked from the back of the room to the front of the room I'm not I'm almost getting emotional about this and she was looking at that screen because she saw herself I mean that was a different level of attachment.

中絶について深く感情的に語る彼女の能力は、娘を持つ父親や女性だけでなく、国中の男性に十分響くものだ。アフリカ系アメリカ人のコミュニティ 彼らはそれにうんざりしている それがこの討論会のもう一つの素晴らしいところだった 私たちが人種の問題について話したとき、彼女はそれをある意味で高めた。

It didn't come from here that came from here and that's what she brought tonight I I this was this was not a great night for her This is a great night for this country for freedom for democracy the rule of law for social justice and racial justice This is I'm just filled with pride and I'm also filled with pride because that's the Kamala Harris.

それはここから来たのではなく、ここから来たものであり、それが今夜彼女がもたらしたものだ。これは彼女にとって素晴らしい夜ではなく、この国にとって素晴らしい夜なのだ。

I've known for 30 years We've been saying this I know people go I would I'm telling you that Kamala Harris I've known for 30 years and this levity she's back in a profound and deep way and I think this is a tough tough night for the campaign for the Trump campaign in another way how they react to this or how they overreact Yes will be more determinative than the punditry in the moment and how the first flash poll moves I think this was shape-shifting in a deeper way and it will show itself over the course of the next few weeks Well, you know, it's the Kamala Harris that you've known for the last 30 years It's also the Donald Trump that the country's known for the last nine Maybe even a worse version of the version that talks about pets being barbecued for lunch She didn't see these cats being eaten by cat dogs and cats.

私は30年前からこう言ってきた。私は30年前から知っているカマラ・ハリスが、この平静さを取り戻し、深い深い意味で戻ってきたと。この結果は、今後数週間のうちに明らかになるだろう、この30年間、あなたが知っているカマラ・ハリスであり、この9年間、この国が知っているドナルド・トランプでもある。昼食にバーベキューされるペットについて語るバージョンのさらに悪いバージョンかもしれない。

I guess are breathing a sigh of relief tonight Yeah, at least one person Hannibal Lecter at least but but you know Trump really you talked before this we went into this that Trump has become kind of a bad imitation of himself and What we saw tonight was a vice president former prosecutor laying these traps repeatedly for Trump who kept walking into them whether it was his father's silver spoon or the size of his rallies or Him being a disgrace on the world stage each and every one of them.

今夜は安堵のため息をついていることだろう。少なくともハンニバル・レクターのような人物はいるが、しかし、トランプは本当に、この前に話したように、トランプは自分自身の悪い模倣のようなものになってしまった。

He responded to It was too easy It was too easy, I mean this just shows this this shows how consequential this election was she was She laid those traps and they I want to compliment her, but there wasn't even that complex They're just trigger words and you just watch you saw his physiology size I move you knew where he was gonna go, but it's also what the rest of the world does to Donald Trump She was absolutely right.

彼はIt was too easy It was too easyに反応した。つまり、これはこの選挙がいかに重大なものであったかを示している。

I've been in those rooms with elective with foreign leaders all around the I've met with dozens of them They all say exactly what she said tonight.

私は選挙で選ばれた世界中の指導者たちとその部屋にいたことがある。

They're laughing behind his mouth He's so prone to flattery and as she said favor how he's terrified of being humiliated how easy Manipulated he becomes because he's weak weakness Masquerading as strength and that weakness was exposed tonight in a pretty profound and consequential way because it was over 90 Minutes and he couldn't get off the mat Do you think this debate is the difference-maker that needs to happen for I guess that what it feels like, you know We're being told is gonna be the tightest election of our lifetimes that there needs to be some meaningful sort of Change to move the numbers in any sort of definitive way.

彼はお世辞を言うのが好きで、彼女が好意的だと言ったように、恥をかかされるのが怖くて、簡単に操られてしまう、私たちの生涯で最も緊迫した選挙になると言われていますが、決定的な数字を動かすには、何か意味のある変化が必要だと思います。

I think we all have to be careful not to overhype I think we can over Analyze over, you know too much punditry as I say, I think this unfolds over the force the next few weeks Examples I mean honestly, I think the Taylor Swift endorsement endorsement how Trump reacts to that and how that can create a few news cycles how he reacts in terms of his grievance and his pity party on those networks and how he goes out and does these large-scale events and how he just Consumed by how unfair this was and how rigged this was and all of a sudden that can expose itself is even more damaging Than just the punditry of the moment just the situation tonight.

私たちは皆、誇張し過ぎないように注意しなければならないと思う。過剰に分析し過ぎると、評論家的な見方が多くなってしまう、テイラー・スウィフトの支持表明にトランプがどのように反応し、それがいくつかのニュースサイクルを作り出し、彼がどのようにネットワーク上で不平不満や同情パーティーという点で反応し、どのように大規模なイベントに出かけ、どのように彼がただ、これがいかに不公平で、いかに不正であったかに心を奪われ、突然、それが露呈する可能性があることは、今夜の状況だけで、その瞬間の識者論よりもさらに有害だと思う。

So no, I think it was That said I'm a little subjective Candidly, but I cannot objectively Imagine in those 60 80 counties within those seven swing states that people truly were open argument interested in evidence They were really kicking the tire how anyone could have concluded That there wasn't just one commander-in-chief and her name was Kamala Harris on stage tonight Well, it was an eventful evening for both sides of the race.

だから、いや、私はそれがあったと思う率直に言って、私は少し主観的ですが、私は客観的に人々が本当に証拠にオープンな議論に興味を持っていたそれらの7つのスイング州内の60 80郡で想像することはできません 彼らは本当にタイヤを蹴っていた 誰もがちょうど一人の司令長官がいなかったと結論付けることができ、彼女の名前は今夜のステージでカマラ・ハリスだった まあ、それはレースの両側にとってイベントの多い夜だった。

Do you think there should be another debate?

もう一度、討論をすべきだと思いますか？

There will be another absolutely unequivocally there should be another debate and it should be coming it come in October He said anytime anywhere Let's do it.

また絶対に別の討論が行われるはずだし、10月には行われるはずだ。

Why wouldn't we?

なぜそうしないのか？

All right, Governor Gasman Newsom.

それでは、ガスマン・ニューサム知事。

I mean, I think we're just gonna take this show on the road Rachel just go sell cheese sandwiches out of the back of the VW and follow this follow this ride Miracle I'd pay good money.

つまり、このショーを路上でやるんだ。レイチェルがワーゲンの荷台からチーズサンドを売りに行って、この乗り物についていくんだ。

I'd buy the t-shirt.

Tシャツを買うよ。

I'd do the whole thing.

僕なら全部やるよ。

Thank you guys.

ありがとう。

It's great You

素晴らしいよ