Name: Dovewing & Ivypool – Sunny's Spiel | Warriors Analysis
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I should have known what I was getting into immediately when I put up this poll.

Dovewing and Ivypool, both as individual characters and in their relationship, have been hot and

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controversial topics just about since the characters were introduced back in 2012.

The general fandom opinions of both characters have oscillated in waves across the last decade,

and there are still wide divides in how Dovewing and Ivypool, as individuals and a pair, are

perceived in different nooks of the fandom.

I'll be honest up front as I always try to be that I have some serious bias in this

area because I have been thinking about and writing from the perspective of these characters

for years, and I have nearly finished getting each of them to the conclusions of their arcs,

ones that don't quite align with what they were given in canon.

That said, considering how heavily this topic has been covered in all corners of the fandom,

I also feel more freedom to spend some time in this video diving straight out of canon

to talk about what elements I see their potential in, and where that potential could lead.

First though, let's go through the basic facts and arguments around these characters

Dovewing and Ivypool are sisters born at the very end of Sunrise, the last book in the

Power of Three arc, but they are most prominent in Omen of the Stars, where both of them are

They're the daughters of Whitewing and Birchfall, but that relationship isn't as important

to them or their story as it is to many other Warriors protagonists.

By and large they have a fine but hardly-touched-on relationship with their parents and no mentioned

connection with any other more distant members of their family.

Their big conflict comes from their relationships with each other and some manipulative entities

in each of the sisters' social groups that drive their conflicts even further.

As kits, they were pretty close and really only hung out with each other, which likely

made it sting even more when, only a couple of days into their apprenticeship, Dovepaw

started being pulled away by her mentor Lionblaze as she was recognized as the third cat in

their prophecy with the power to hear, scent, and see things far away.

These insights and importance not only made her keep secrets from her sister and thrust

her into a scary and already-in-progress war that she was not prepared for as a brand new

apprentice, but also caused all four clans to launch a traveling mission in response

to her sights that ended up bringing back their water.

Ivypaw wasn't doing badly in her training by any means, but compared to her sister who

was very publicly special immediately, she didn't feel as though she stacked up, and

most notably, she didn't feel like they were a pair anymore like they had been as

Dovewing didn't either, mind you, but everyone from her leader to her mentor to the medicine

cat and Starclan were telling her that she was important and needed to join them in saving

the clans as quickly and secretly as possible, so she felt entirely without agency.

She did find some solace in Tigerheart, a warrior she met on the journey she spearheaded

who didn't seem to hate the other clans as much as most cats, but even that relationship

This divide left Ivypaw free to be taken in by her own external pressures: first from

the Dark Forest, and specifically her new mentor Hawkfrost.

Before they rapidly and without explanation transitioned into a boot camp, Ivypaw just

came to visit Hawkfrost to talk about her feelings regarding her sister and how she

felt like she was being left behind, fears that Hawkfrost stoked and provided saccharine

sympathy on as a means of manipulating her.

One big factor in the fandom perception of these characters was the way in which their

Because Ivypaw was constantly thinking of herself in comparison to Dovepaw and outright

berated her or tried to force her into a competition for most of their life, the fandom also began

to consider them as a one or the other situation.

Either you were on Dovewing's side and think Ivypaw was bullying her sister who wanted

nothing but to be with her and whose life was spiraling out of her control, or you were

on Ivypool's side and thought that Dovewing should have done more to stop Ivypool from

being taken in by the Dark Forest, shouldn't have kept the prophecy from her to begin with,

or should have avoided showing off in front of Ivypool along the way.

The animosity from these sides also stemmed into the perceptions of the characters, with

fans of Dovewing labeling Ivypool as petty, vindictive, and lacking in empathy and fans

of Ivypool labeling Dovewing as a frivolous, flawless, boring she-cat character while Ivypool

I can understand where this comes from, but I honestly believe that, had Dovewing and

Ivypool's arcs as individuals and with each other actually concluded, we wouldn't have

had as many wars about it over the last decade, and we might have a lot more people who appreciate

or even love both characters…you know, people like uh, me.

I think canon Ivypool definitely was petty and vindictive at points, and did treat her

I also think she was treated badly by Blossomfall and the Dark Forest, which didn't help.

I don't think Dovewing was flawless, but I do think her ideology wasn't tapped into

nearly as much as it could have been and it sometimes became frustrating to see her constantly

reach out to and think the best of cats who had long since stopped being nice to her.

I also think that being told she was important and had to save the world alongside two adults

she barely knew and having to actually suppress what she could see to put up a front of aggression

would put her in a very difficult position.

Neither of these characters were totally at fault for or totally separated from their

They are both, or at least both have the potential to be, sympathetic.

The key is in how the rest of the story resolves their turmoil and helps them come back to

appreciating each other again…which Omen of the Stars actually never did.

Ivypool started spying on the Dark Forest for the three but it didn't involve any

Jayfeather and Lionblaze just demanded that she work for them using her position as they

had been doing to Dovewing and Ivypool reluctantly agrees to work with them for the greater good

They avoided talking about their actual pasts and feelings enough to fix any of the personal

problems, and this led to a point where *to this day,* Ivypool still holds a grudge against

Dovewing and doesn't understand why she left Thunderclan to be with Tigerheartstar.

I could talk about how poorly their resolution is handled or how it impacts the perception

and identity of each character individually, but both of these topics have been discussed

extensively and I don't want to either retread well-covered ground or reignite any wars.

Instead, and because the biggest faults with both of these cats is in how their relationships

with and arcs around each other resolve, this is the point at which I must say I am diverging

From this point onward, I will be mainly discussing the potential they had and the diverging journey

I took them through and am taking them through in Paws of Stars.

Firstly, we need to clear up some very specific relationships.

On Ivypool's side, we first need to tackle her frenemy bully thing, Blossomfall.

The books both try to treat them as being each others' closest friends and have Blossomfall

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