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>>> BACK NOW WITH OUR
>>> BACK NOW WITH OUR NBC NEWS
>>> BACK NOW WITH OUR NBC NEWS INVESTIGATION.
NBC NEWS INVESTIGATION. A MAJOR VOTE IN
INVESTIGATION. A MAJOR VOTE IN CALIFORNIA THIS WEEK
A MAJOR VOTE IN CALIFORNIA THIS WEEK COULD ALLOW MORE
CALIFORNIA THIS WEEK COULD ALLOW MORE DRIVERLESS CARS ON THE
COULD ALLOW MORE DRIVERLESS CARS ON THE ROAD IN SAN FRANCISCO.
DRIVERLESS CARS ON THE ROAD IN SAN FRANCISCO. BUT WE HAVE NEW
ROAD IN SAN FRANCISCO. BUT WE HAVE NEW DETAILS TONIGHT IN THE
BUT WE HAVE NEW DETAILS TONIGHT IN THE DANGERS THEY MAY POSE.
DETAILS TONIGHT IN THE DANGERS THEY MAY POSE. BIGAD SHABAN FROM OUR
DANGERS THEY MAY POSE. BIGAD SHABAN FROM OUR NBC BAY AREA STATION
BIGAD SHABAN FROM OUR NBC BAY AREA STATION KNTV EXPLAINS.
NBC BAY AREA STATION KNTV EXPLAINS. >> Reporter: NOW HANDS
KNTV EXPLAINS. >> Reporter: NOW HANDS ON THE WHEEL.
>> Reporter: NOW HANDS ON THE WHEEL. NO HANDS AT ALL.
ON THE WHEEL. NO HANDS AT ALL. OKAY, I JUST REQUESTED
NO HANDS AT ALL. OKAY, I JUST REQUESTED OUR RIDE, AND IT'S
OKAY, I JUST REQUESTED OUR RIDE, AND IT'S THREE MINUTES AWAY.
OUR RIDE, AND IT'S THREE MINUTES AWAY. >> Reporter: MORE THAN
THREE MINUTES AWAY. >> Reporter: MORE THAN 2,000 SELF-DRIVING
>> Reporter: MORE THAN 2,000 SELF-DRIVING CARS ARE ON THE ROAD
2,000 SELF-DRIVING CARS ARE ON THE ROAD IN CALIFORNIA.
CARS ARE ON THE ROAD IN CALIFORNIA. MOST HAVE A TEST
IN CALIFORNIA. MOST HAVE A TEST DRIVER INSIDE WHO CAN
MOST HAVE A TEST DRIVER INSIDE WHO CAN TAKE OVER WHEN NEEDED.
DRIVER INSIDE WHO CAN TAKE OVER WHEN NEEDED. BUT HUNDREDS OF CARS
TAKE OVER WHEN NEEDED. BUT HUNDREDS OF CARS HAVE NO ONE IN THE
BUT HUNDREDS OF CARS HAVE NO ONE IN THE FRONT SEAT AS THEY
HAVE NO ONE IN THE FRONT SEAT AS THEY MAKE DELIVERIES AND
FRONT SEAT AS THEY MAKE DELIVERIES AND SHUTTLE PASSENGERS.
MAKE DELIVERIES AND SHUTTLE PASSENGERS. WE TRIED A RIDE WITH
SHUTTLE PASSENGERS. WE TRIED A RIDE WITH CRUISE.
WE TRIED A RIDE WITH CRUISE. OWNED BY GM, IT'S ONE
CRUISE. OWNED BY GM, IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST RIDE
OWNED BY GM, IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST RIDE DRIVERLESS RIDE SHARES
OF THE LARGEST RIDE DRIVERLESS RIDE SHARES IN AMERICA, ALONG WITH
DRIVERLESS RIDE SHARES IN AMERICA, ALONG WITH ITS COMPETITOR WAYMO.
IN AMERICA, ALONG WITH ITS COMPETITOR WAYMO. BOTH HAVE ASKING FOR
ITS COMPETITOR WAYMO. BOTH HAVE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO EXPAND
BOTH HAVE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO EXPAND THEIR ROBOTAXI
PERMISSION TO EXPAND THEIR ROBOTAXI SERVICES INSIDE THE
THEIR ROBOTAXI SERVICES INSIDE THE STATE'S LARGEST
SERVICES INSIDE THE STATE'S LARGEST TESTING GROUNDS, SAN
STATE'S LARGEST TESTING GROUNDS, SAN FRANCISCO.
TESTING GROUNDS, SAN FRANCISCO. SO PASSENGERS CAN
FRANCISCO. SO PASSENGERS CAN REQUEST RIDES 24 HOURS
SO PASSENGERS CAN REQUEST RIDES 24 HOURS A DAY RIGHT FROM THEIR
REQUEST RIDES 24 HOURS A DAY RIGHT FROM THEIR PHONES.
A DAY RIGHT FROM THEIR PHONES. ONCE YOU ENTER YOUR
PHONES. ONCE YOU ENTER YOUR DESTINATION, THE CAR
ONCE YOU ENTER YOUR DESTINATION, THE CAR DOES THE REST.
DESTINATION, THE CAR DOES THE REST. YOU CAN'T TELL IT WHAT
DOES THE REST. YOU CAN'T TELL IT WHAT ROUTES TO TAKE OR
YOU CAN'T TELL IT WHAT ROUTES TO TAKE OR STREETS TO AVOID.
ROUTES TO TAKE OR STREETS TO AVOID. SO IF YOU'RE USED TO
STREETS TO AVOID. SO IF YOU'RE USED TO BEING A BACK SEAT
SO IF YOU'RE USED TO BEING A BACK SEAT DRIVER, YOU MIGHT WANT
BEING A BACK SEAT DRIVER, YOU MIGHT WANT TO FIND A CAR WITH A
DRIVER, YOU MIGHT WANT TO FIND A CAR WITH A FRONT SEAT DRIVER.
TO FIND A CAR WITH A FRONT SEAT DRIVER. AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES
FRONT SEAT DRIVER. AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES CAN DETECT CLOSED
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES CAN DETECT CLOSED STREETS, DRIVE AROUND
CAN DETECT CLOSED STREETS, DRIVE AROUND DOUBLE-PARKED CARS,
STREETS, DRIVE AROUND DOUBLE-PARKED CARS, AND EVEN PULL OVER FOR
DOUBLE-PARKED CARS, AND EVEN PULL OVER FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
AND EVEN PULL OVER FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES. BUT GETTING
EMERGENCY VEHICLES. BUT GETTING CHAUFFEURED BY A ROBOT
BUT GETTING CHAUFFEURED BY A ROBOT ISN'T ALWAYS A SMOOTH
CHAUFFEURED BY A ROBOT ISN'T ALWAYS A SMOOTH RIDE.
ISN'T ALWAYS A SMOOTH RIDE. STATE TRANSPORTATION
RIDE. STATE TRANSPORTATION RECORDS OBTAINED BY
STATE TRANSPORTATION RECORDS OBTAINED BY NBC NEWS SHOW
RECORDS OBTAINED BY NBC NEWS SHOW SELF-DRIVING CARS HAVE
NBC NEWS SHOW SELF-DRIVING CARS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN 280
SELF-DRIVING CARS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN 280 CRASHES ACROSS
BEEN INVOLVED IN 280 CRASHES ACROSS CALIFORNIA OVER THE
CRASHES ACROSS CALIFORNIA OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
CALIFORNIA OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS. RESULTING IN AT LEAST
PAST FIVE YEARS. RESULTING IN AT LEAST 64 INJURIES AND A DEAD
RESULTING IN AT LEAST 64 INJURIES AND A DEAD DOG.
64 INJURIES AND A DEAD DOG. THAT INCLUDES
DOG. THAT INCLUDES COLLISIONS WITH OTHER
THAT INCLUDES COLLISIONS WITH OTHER VEHICLES, BICYCLISTS,
COLLISIONS WITH OTHER VEHICLES, BICYCLISTS, AND CITY BUSES.
VEHICLES, BICYCLISTS, AND CITY BUSES. >> A SELF-DRIVING CAR
AND CITY BUSES. >> A SELF-DRIVING CAR RAN INTO ME, NO
>> A SELF-DRIVING CAR RAN INTO ME, NO DRIVER.
RAN INTO ME, NO DRIVER. >> Reporter: SOME
DRIVER. >> Reporter: SOME ACCIDENTS WERE CAUSED
>> Reporter: SOME ACCIDENTS WERE CAUSED BY OTHER PEOPLE ON THE
ACCIDENTS WERE CAUSED BY OTHER PEOPLE ON THE ROAD, ACCORDING TO
BY OTHER PEOPLE ON THE ROAD, ACCORDING TO CRASH REPORTS.
ROAD, ACCORDING TO CRASH REPORTS. HOW MANY IS UNCLEAR
CRASH REPORTS. HOW MANY IS UNCLEAR FROM THE DATA.
HOW MANY IS UNCLEAR FROM THE DATA. BUT THE CARS HAVE BEEN
FROM THE DATA. BUT THE CARS HAVE BEEN CONFUSED BY EMERGENCY
BUT THE CARS HAVE BEEN CONFUSED BY EMERGENCY SCENES, SOMETIMES
CONFUSED BY EMERGENCY SCENES, SOMETIMES PLOWING INTO CAUTION
SCENES, SOMETIMES PLOWING INTO CAUTION TAPE OR BLOCKING FIRE
PLOWING INTO CAUTION TAPE OR BLOCKING FIRE TRUCKS.
TAPE OR BLOCKING FIRE TRUCKS. WAYMO DIDN'T COMMENT,
TRUCKS. WAYMO DIDN'T COMMENT, BUT CRUISE TELLS US
WAYMO DIDN'T COMMENT, BUT CRUISE TELLS US AUTOMATION HAS SAFETY
BUT CRUISE TELLS US AUTOMATION HAS SAFETY BENEFITS.
AUTOMATION HAS SAFETY BENEFITS. >> OUR CARS DON'T
BENEFITS. >> OUR CARS DON'T DRIVE DRUNK.
>> OUR CARS DON'T DRIVE DRUNK. THEY DON'T GET
DRIVE DRUNK. THEY DON'T GET DISTRACTED.
THEY DON'T GET DISTRACTED. >> Reporter: ONE OF
DISTRACTED. >> Reporter: ONE OF THE LEADERS AT CRUISE.
>> Reporter: ONE OF THE LEADERS AT CRUISE. >> OUR VEHICLES ARE
THE LEADERS AT CRUISE. >> OUR VEHICLES ARE DESIGNED TO WHEN THEY
>> OUR VEHICLES ARE DESIGNED TO WHEN THEY APPROACH A SITUATION
DESIGNED TO WHEN THEY APPROACH A SITUATION THAT THEY AREN'T SURE
APPROACH A SITUATION THAT THEY AREN'T SURE ABOUT, THEY'RE
THAT THEY AREN'T SURE ABOUT, THEY'RE DESIGNED TO COME TO A
ABOUT, THEY'RE DESIGNED TO COME TO A SAFE STOP.
DESIGNED TO COME TO A SAFE STOP. >> BUT YOU WILL
SAFE STOP. >> BUT YOU WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EVEN
>> BUT YOU WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EVEN COMING TO A FULL STOP
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EVEN COMING TO A FULL STOP CAN CREATE SAFETY
COMING TO A FULL STOP CAN CREATE SAFETY ISSUES TOO.
CAN CREATE SAFETY ISSUES TOO. >> Reporter: THE
ISSUES TOO. >> Reporter: THE TRAFFIC BLOCKAGES ARE
>> Reporter: THE TRAFFIC BLOCKAGES ARE NOT SOMETHING WE WANT
TRAFFIC BLOCKAGES ARE NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN.
NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN. >> Reporter: JUST
TO HAVE HAPPEN. >> Reporter: JUST HOURS AFTER THAT
>> Reporter: JUST HOURS AFTER THAT INTERVIEW, IT DID
HOURS AFTER THAT INTERVIEW, IT DID HAPPEN, TO US.
INTERVIEW, IT DID HAPPEN, TO US. OUR FIRST RIDE WITH
HAPPEN, TO US. OUR FIRST RIDE WITH CRUISE WENT AS
OUR FIRST RIDE WITH CRUISE WENT AS PLANNED.
CRUISE WENT AS PLANNED. BUT WE THEN INVITED A
PLANNED. BUT WE THEN INVITED A LONG-TIME DRIVING
BUT WE THEN INVITED A LONG-TIME DRIVING INSTRUCTOR, EUGENIA
LONG-TIME DRIVING INSTRUCTOR, EUGENIA BORGES TO JOIN US.
INSTRUCTOR, EUGENIA BORGES TO JOIN US. ON A SECOND RIDE.
BORGES TO JOIN US. ON A SECOND RIDE. ABOUT ONE MINUTE IN,
ON A SECOND RIDE. ABOUT ONE MINUTE IN, OUR CAR WAS AT A GREEN
ABOUT ONE MINUTE IN, OUR CAR WAS AT A GREEN LIGHT BUT WOULDN'T
OUR CAR WAS AT A GREEN LIGHT BUT WOULDN'T BUDGE.
LIGHT BUT WOULDN'T BUDGE. >> IT'S A VERY SAFE
BUDGE. >> IT'S A VERY SAFE SITUATION FOR THE CAR
>> IT'S A VERY SAFE SITUATION FOR THE CAR TO TURN, AND IT'S JUST
SITUATION FOR THE CAR TO TURN, AND IT'S JUST STAYING HERE.
TO TURN, AND IT'S JUST STAYING HERE. I'M NOT SURE WHY.
STAYING HERE. I'M NOT SURE WHY. >> Reporter: THE CAR
I'M NOT SURE WHY. >> Reporter: THE CAR EVENTUALLY INCHED
>> Reporter: THE CAR EVENTUALLY INCHED FORWARD BUT KEPT
EVENTUALLY INCHED FORWARD BUT KEPT STOPPING.
FORWARD BUT KEPT STOPPING. >> WE'RE KIND OF
STOPPING. >> WE'RE KIND OF RIDING IN TWO LANES.
>> WE'RE KIND OF RIDING IN TWO LANES. >> Reporter: THEN ALL
RIDING IN TWO LANES. >> Reporter: THEN ALL OF THE SUDDEN IT HIT
>> Reporter: THEN ALL OF THE SUDDEN IT HIT THE GAS.
OF THE SUDDEN IT HIT THE GAS. >> OH.
THE GAS. >> OH. >> OKAY.
>> OH. >> OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S
>> OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S DOING NOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S DOING NOW. >> Reporter: OUR CAR
DOING NOW. >> Reporter: OUR CAR DROVE STRAIGHT TOWARDS
>> Reporter: OUR CAR DROVE STRAIGHT TOWARDS THE MEDIAN AND JUST
DROVE STRAIGHT TOWARDS THE MEDIAN AND JUST STOPPED, TAKING UP
THE MEDIAN AND JUST STOPPED, TAKING UP ALMOST TWO FULL LANES.
STOPPED, TAKING UP ALMOST TWO FULL LANES. >> THIS IS NOT GOOD.
ALMOST TWO FULL LANES. >> THIS IS NOT GOOD. YEAH.
>> THIS IS NOT GOOD. YEAH. PEOPLE ARE HONKING AT
YEAH. PEOPLE ARE HONKING AT US.
PEOPLE ARE HONKING AT US. >> Reporter: SOON CAME
US. >> Reporter: SOON CAME THE LOOKS FROM OTHER
>> Reporter: SOON CAME THE LOOKS FROM OTHER DRIVERS.
THE LOOKS FROM OTHER DRIVERS. HOW DOES THIS COMPARE
DRIVERS. HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO THE WORST DRIVING
HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO THE WORST DRIVING STUDENT YOU'VE EVER
TO THE WORST DRIVING STUDENT YOU'VE EVER HAD?
STUDENT YOU'VE EVER HAD? >> OH, THIS IS MUCH
HAD? >> OH, THIS IS MUCH WORSE.
>> OH, THIS IS MUCH WORSE. >> Reporter: CRUISE
WORSE. >> Reporter: CRUISE DECLINED TO SIT DOWN
>> Reporter: CRUISE DECLINED TO SIT DOWN WITH US AGAIN, BUT IN
DECLINED TO SIT DOWN WITH US AGAIN, BUT IN A STATEMENT SAID THE
WITH US AGAIN, BUT IN A STATEMENT SAID THE CAR ENCOUNTERED AN
A STATEMENT SAID THE CAR ENCOUNTERED AN UNEXPECTED
CAR ENCOUNTERED AN UNEXPECTED CONSTRUCTION ZONE THAT
UNEXPECTED CONSTRUCTION ZONE THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED
CONSTRUCTION ZONE THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED SEVERAL LANE CHANGES.
WOULD HAVE REQUIRED SEVERAL LANE CHANGES. THE BETTER COURSE WAS
SEVERAL LANE CHANGES. THE BETTER COURSE WAS FOR THE AUTONOMOUS
THE BETTER COURSE WAS FOR THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE TO COME TO A
FOR THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE TO COME TO A SAFE STOP RATHER THAN
VEHICLE TO COME TO A SAFE STOP RATHER THAN PROCEED.
SAFE STOP RATHER THAN PROCEED. WHILE OTHER DRIVERS
PROCEED. WHILE OTHER DRIVERS CRUISED RIGHT PAST
WHILE OTHER DRIVERS CRUISED RIGHT PAST THAT CLOSED LANE, OUR
CRUISED RIGHT PAST THAT CLOSED LANE, OUR CAR SAT PARKED ON A
THAT CLOSED LANE, OUR CAR SAT PARKED ON A BUSY STREET FOR 20
CAR SAT PARKED ON A BUSY STREET FOR 20 MINUTES, CAUSING A
BUSY STREET FOR 20 MINUTES, CAUSING A TRAFFIC JAM FOR
MINUTES, CAUSING A TRAFFIC JAM FOR BLOCKS.
TRAFFIC JAM FOR BLOCKS. WHAT'S YOUR REACTION
BLOCKS. WHAT'S YOUR REACTION IT BEING A DRIVERLESS
WHAT'S YOUR REACTION IT BEING A DRIVERLESS CAR STUCK HERE?
IT BEING A DRIVERLESS CAR STUCK HERE? >> I'M NOT SURPRISED.
CAR STUCK HERE? >> I'M NOT SURPRISED. >> Reporter:
>> I'M NOT SURPRISED. >> Reporter: SELF-DRIVING CARS ARE
>> Reporter: SELF-DRIVING CARS ARE ALREADY BEING TESTED
SELF-DRIVING CARS ARE ALREADY BEING TESTED IN 25 STATES, BUT WITH
ALREADY BEING TESTED IN 25 STATES, BUT WITH NO FEDERAL REGULATION,
IN 25 STATES, BUT WITH NO FEDERAL REGULATION, AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE A
NO FEDERAL REGULATION, AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE A NATIONAL ROAD MAP FOR
AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE A NATIONAL ROAD MAP FOR SAFETY GUIDELINES.
NATIONAL ROAD MAP FOR SAFETY GUIDELINES. BACK INSIDE OUR CAR,
SAFETY GUIDELINES. BACK INSIDE OUR CAR, CRUISE CUSTOMER
BACK INSIDE OUR CAR, CRUISE CUSTOMER SERVICE CONTACTED US
CRUISE CUSTOMER SERVICE CONTACTED US TO SAY THEY DETECTED A
SERVICE CONTACTED US TO SAY THEY DETECTED A PROBLEM.
TO SAY THEY DETECTED A PROBLEM. THEIR SOLUTION?
PROBLEM. THEIR SOLUTION? THEY SENT US A DRIVER
THEIR SOLUTION? THEY SENT US A DRIVER TO GET BEHIND THE
THEY SENT US A DRIVER TO GET BEHIND THE WHEEL.