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CHINA.
ONE BIG WAY TO DO IT, MAYBE THE
BIGGEST, IS KRANESHARES.
KWEB ETF
BRING IN BRENDAN AHERN
HE IS CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER
AT KRANESHARES
GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON.
YOU PROBABLY HEARD MANY OF OUR
CONVERSATIONS.
WHAT MAKES YOU CONFIDENT ABOUT
INVESTING IN CHINA GIVEN ALL
THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT AND
ADDRESSED TONIGHT?
>> ONE THING, BRIAN, WE ALWAYS
WANT TO POINT OUT TO INVESTORS
IS THAT IF WE LOOKED AT THE
DEFINITION OF CHINA, MSCI CHINA,
TEN YEARS AGO MSCI CHINA WAS 50%
FINANCIALS AND ENERGY.
NOW, I DON'T THINK ANYONE THINKS
50% OF THE CHINESE POPULATION
WORKS IN FINANCIALS AND ENERGY
BUT THAT'S HOW PEOPLE WERE
INVESTED
AND I THINK WE THEN WENT ON A
GREAT DECADE OF GROWTH INVESTING
AND YET MSCI CHINA ONLY HAD 2%
IN TECHNOLOGY.
THAT 2% OF MSCI CHINA TECHNOLOGY
ACTUALLY WENT UP NEARLY 2,000%,
ALMOST THREE TIMES BETTER THAN
THE S&P 500.
SO PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
DO AT KRANESHARES IS GIVE PEOPLE
ACCESS TO THE SEGMENTS OF
CHINA'S POPULATION THAT ARE
GROWING VERY RAPIDLY SUCH AS WE
DO WITH KWEB
>> AND CLEARLY YOU TRUST
INVESTING IN CHINA BECAUSE I
SAID IN THE PREVIOUS SEGMENT
PARTS OF THEIR MARKET FELT
RIGGED
I SAID THAT BECAUSE YOU CANNOT
SHORT STOCKS IN THE DOMESTIC
MARKET AND I COULD NOT BUY
DOMESTIC SHARES ON THE SHANGHAI
EXCHANGE AS AN AMERICAN LIVING
IN AMERICA
SO IT'S KIND OF A CLOSED MARKET
OUTSIDE OF THE HANG SENG
>> YEAH, DEFINITELY, BRIAN
YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT.
YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT, SAY, KWEB
IS OFFSHORE CHINA.
IT'S WHAT FOREIGNERS DEFINE
CHINA.
HONG KONG AND U.S. CHINA ADRs.
SO IT'S MORE REFLECTIVE OF WHAT
DO FOREIGN INVESTORS THINK ABOUT
CHINA.
WE CAN CONTRAST THAT WITH THE
SHANGHAI AND THE SHENZHEN, WHICH
IS 95% OWNED BY INVESTORS IN
CHINA.
AND WITHIN KRANESHARES WE GIVE
PEOPLE ACTION THROUGH THE ETF
KBA.
IT'S 50 MEGA CAP CHINESE
SHANGHAI SHENZHEN NAMES.
BUT WHAT THE CHINESE THINK ABOUT
CHINA AND WHAT FOREIGNERS THINK
ABOUT CHINA CAN BE DO REALLY
DIFFERENT THINGS
AND THEY'RE NOT SYNCHRONIZED
THEY MOVE VERY DIFFERENTLY
SO JUST TO YOUR POINT, BRIAN,
IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO GET
ACCESS TO THESE CHINESE --
SOMETHING WE DOAR TO INVESTORS
AT KRANESHARES
>> WE HAVE TWO MARKETS, NASDAQ
AND NYSE
I KNOW THERE'S OTHERS BUT THAT'S
REALLY OUR THING
THEY REALLY HAVE THREE
SHANGHAI, SHENZHEN AND THEN
THEY'VE GOT HONG KONG.
HOW DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE THE
THREE?
EXPLAIN IT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS
QUICKLY FOR OUR AUDIENCE, WHY
THEY ARE DIFFERENT
AND THEY ARE
>> YEAH.
SHANGHAI, LARGE CAP, MEGA CAP,
VALUE SECTORS.
FINANCIALS, ENERGY, MATERIALS,
INDUSTRIALS.
SHENZHEN, MORE LIKE NASDAQ
PRIVATE COMPANIES.
MID-CAP, SMALL COMPANY
HONG KONG, LARGE CAP NAMES
BUT HONG KONG REALLY REFLECTIVE
OF WHAT DO FOREIGNERS THINK
ABOUT CHINA VS. SHANGHAI
SHENZHEN, WHAT DO THE CHINESE
THINK ABOU