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  • - So as the most successful musician of all time,

  • - (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

  • - could you tell me, why do people like music?

  • (guitar music)

  • (laughs)

  • - I mean, it's kind of like,

  • I don't know, why do people like eating food?

  • Or why do people like puppies and sunshine?

  • - [Craig] That's YouTuber and musician extraordinaire,

  • Rob Scallon.

  • He does things like play Slayer on banjo,

  • (intense banjo music)

  • create real life delay,

  • (guitar music)

  • the largest pedalboard,

  • and he makes pretty, pretty music,

  • which is why I asked him,

  • "Why do you like music?"

  • - Well, I mean, what was your answer?

  • - I don't have it, I'm looking for the answer!

  • Rob's reaction was pretty common among the people I asked.

  • Why do people like music?

  • (laughs)

  • Answer me this simple question.

  • Why do people like music?

  • - Um, it's kind of a weird question.

  • (laughs)

  • - [Craig] Yes, it is.

  • Sam and Nate are members of the quintessential rock band,

  • Driftless Pony Club.

  • I also talked to two other members,

  • Matt and Craig.

  • I'm really nervous about this interview

  • because you are a member of

  • one of my all-time favorite bands.

  • I know.

  • So, "Why do people like music," is a weird question

  • because music seems so innate in us.

  • Not Nate in us, innate.

  • But what is music?

  • I think in one of my interviews, Craig said it best.

  • Allow me to quote the 20th century French-born composer,

  • Edgard Varese.

  • "What is music but organized noise?"

  • Thanks, Craig, but I already knew that,

  • I'm a big Varese-head.

  • That music just gets me moving.

  • (snaps fingers) (discordant music)

  • So the reason I'm asking this question is because

  • I find it interesting that organized noise

  • is something that we like.

  • Like most ridiculous questions I ask

  • that I don't expect to find an answer to,

  • I just kind of want to ask it to learn about stuff.

  • Reasons why people like music, one.

  • - Music is the most efficient way

  • to communicate emotion.

  • - [Craig] Like, why do you, personally, like music?

  • - I think because of the expression of it.

  • I'm expressing myself and communicating.

  • I think that applies whether you're making music

  • or listening to it.

  • - Can you figure out what it is that makes a song

  • a good song?

  • - I think a good song puts together a feeling

  • that you know what it is,

  • but you never actually, like, put your finger on it before.

  • It helps crystallize maybe something you know,

  • but you don't know how to express.

  • - Music probably arose before we actually could speak.

  • - Oh, you think so?

  • - Because you can see music in the animal kingdom

  • all over the place.

  • Birds sing, (birds chirping)

  • whales sing. (whale groaning)

  • - [Craig Voiceover] Because I like nothing more

  • than proving Matt wrong, I did a bit of research

  • and I came to a very satisfying answer to the question,

  • "Did music predate language?"

  • Answer,

  • (singing fanfare)

  • no one knows for sure.

  • There is a 50,000 year old Slovenian bone flute,

  • my nickname in high school,

  • made from an extinct bear

  • thought to be the world's oldest known instrument,

  • which means music probably predated that by a lot.

  • But, there's debate as to whether it's actually

  • an instrument at all, also,

  • we don't even know when language began, so...

  • On the other hand, language probably started

  • with a series of grunts, and hums, and whistles.

  • That's just a theory of mine, (grunting and whistling)

  • or an excuse to just use this B-roll.

  • And since music is organized noise,

  • then music came before language.

  • And actually, by that definition,

  • language is music.

  • We use notes to convey different ideas, am I right?

  • Am I right?

  • I'm right.

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  • Can you feel ♪ (discordant piano playing)

  • The love tonight

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  • And it teaches you sheet music.

  • I'm a self-taught guitar player,

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  • I've always messed around with piano,

  • I can do this little ditty.

  • (playing ""Heart and Soul"")

  • Not very well, obviously.

  • My sister taught me this one.

  • Doe, a deer, a female deer

  • Ray, a drop of golden sun

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  • (discordant piano playing)

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  • (discordant piano playing)

  • So music, other than spoken language,

  • may be an older and simpler, yet more fundamental

  • form of language that's better at expressing emotions

  • than words can.

  • Or it just may communicate emotions quicker.

  • Like, have you ever heard of the devil's tritone?

  • (clears throat loudly)

  • (plays dissonant chord)

  • Lovely, isn't it? (plays dissonant chord)

  • It's called a tritone because it's two notes

  • that are three whole steps apart.

  • It communicates tension, something unresolved.

  • It wants you to play this chord.

  • (plays chord)

  • Or maybe...

  • (plays chords)

  • And then it sounds complete.

  • And you probably feel that tension, don't you?

  • Which leads to number two.

  • Two, it affects moods.

  • (foghorn blowing)

  • If you were listening to the devil's tritone all day,

  • I don't think I'd want to be around you.

  • Luckily, there are other chords.

  • - Like major seventh chords, oh my God.

  • I love them so much.

  • I could live in a major seventh chord

  • for the rest of my life.

  • - Why is that?

  • - A perfect major chord is like,

  • (plays major chord)

  • "Look at this beautiful sunset!"

  • Look at this, like, impossibly perfect thing.

  • - Like my beard, right?

  • - Yeah, yeah, like your beard.

  • But this is more like

  • (plays major chord)

  • near perfect, but it's like something or someone

  • that you love who's not perfect,

  • but you love them unconditionally anyway.

  • It's still right, but you're loving it with its flaws.

  • Here's the major

  • (playing guitar)

  • That we got

  • It's very plain

  • And now we're onto major sevens

  • And I'm not feeling the same

  • Another major seventh. ♪

  • Oh

  • All right

  • (laughs)

  • Like, I just love that sound.

  • - It can lift your mood if you're sad or something,

  • and you listen to a sad song,

  • I think it makes you feel like someone else is feeling that,

  • which is comforting.

  • If you're going through sort of a strange period,

  • you can kind of write a song about it,

  • help you get those emotions out.

  • If you write a happy song, or like,

  • more energizing, like we have in our band,

  • it's kind of amazing to be able to share that with people.

  • - I asked you why you like music

  • on the beard lover subreddit

  • and many of you gave great answers, like this one.

  • "I find music to be a form of on-demand empathy."

  • That's great, NukesForGary!

  • Someone send that guy some nukes, he deserves it.

  • On-demand empathy.

  • Needing to queue up some kind of sound

  • that shares in the feeling that you're having.

  • I think a lot of this might have to do with

  • not wanting to feel alone.

  • When you're sitting around outside hearing nature sounds,

  • it can be nice and pretty, but also boring and lonely.

  • Put on some music, and suddenly you're hearing

  • something intentional, created by another human.

  • Scaramouche, scaramouche

  • Will you do the Fandango? ♪

  • Thunder-- ♪

  • Does music affect your mood, Craig?

  • Yeah, it helps get me amped when I'm working out.

  • It also helps me focus when I'm writing for videos.

  • You make videos?

  • Yep.

  • Oh my God, same!

  • You're my idol.

  • I know.

  • Wow, Craig and I really bonded just then.

  • Which brings us to number three,

  • it brings people together.

  • - The whole direction of my life

  • was sort of dependent on music.

  • In high school, I always felt, like,

  • nerdy or a little bit different from other people,

  • but I started going to punk rock shows.

  • It made me feel part of a larger community.

  • - Why do you like live performance?

  • - [Sam] It creates an atmosphere

  • where I think everyone is enjoying

  • one thing at the same time.

  • - And there's something so awesome

  • and powerful about playing an amplified drum kit

  • in a big venue, and when you hit that kick drum,

  • the whole room shakes.

  • Everyone in the room feels it.

  • - Music is probably the foundation of my friendship

  • with these guys, Nate, Sam, and Matt.

  • We played shows to full and empty rooms

  • across this great country for,

  • I guess you could say decades, now.

  • Yeah, and Rob and I also collaborated

  • on WheezyWaiter songs.

  • - Well, we did a ton of songs together.

  • - Yeah, we did ""This Is A Song""

  • This is a song

  • This is a song

  • Everybody knows the words

  • ♪ 'Cause I just said them all

  • The Miley Cyrus "I am corn."

  • Boy I am corn

  • ""Wrecking Bagel.""

  • Claiming everything bagel

  • Garlic onion is just not enough

  • - [Rob] The Halloween song was really good.

  • Halloween

  • Everybody loves Halloween

  • - [Craig] ""Craig With a Wig"" song.

  • Craig

  • With a wig

  • (sighs deeply)

  • (laughs)

  • And then there's dancing,

  • which literally brings people together,

  • and could be largely responsible

  • for the populating of the species.

  • According to the book, ""This Is Your Brain On Music,""

  • the archeological record shows an uninterrupted record

  • of music making everywhere we find humans,

  • and in every era.

  • You repeated record twice,

  • but music's about repetition.

  • He also pointed out that concert halls

  • actually arose only in the last several centuries.

  • The idea of splitting a performer and an audience

  • is a relatively new thing.

  • "Throughout most of the world and for most of human history,

  • "music making was as natural an activity

  • "as breathing and walking, and everyone participated."

  • When you think about it, before TVs, and radios,

  • and just electricity, there wasn't a whole lot else to do.

  • Sitting around a campfire, what could you be doing?

  • You could be eating, telling stories

  • that everyone's heard a million times,

  • punching each other,

  • maybe a game of "guess whose poop that is,"

  • or you could play an instrument or dance to music.

  • Everyone can make and enjoy the same thing,

  • strengthening your group identity.

  • Nowadays, you can also strengthen your group identity

  • by just sharing in what you listen to,

  • like juggalos, or Deadheads,

  • or Varese-heads. (discordant music)

  • It would be challenging to name them all,

  • which brings us to number four,

  • which is overcome challenges.

  • Transitions, oh yeah.

  • It's just fun to try to overcome challenges,

  • or watch people overcome challenges.

  • Playing instruments, and song writing,

  • and almost anything I do kind of began as

  • just seeing if I could do it.

  • I first got into making music when

  • one of the childhood friends got an electric guitar

  • and he showed me that he could play

  • ""Come As You Are"" by Nirvana,

  • and then I had to learn how to play it.

  • (playing ""Come As You Are"")

  • Yeah, still got it.

  • Knowing you, you also skate, you like a challenge.

  • - [Rob] I do, and with instruments,

  • you can express yourself in a different way.

  • You get a sonic outcome.

  • If you learn a trick,

  • (playing guitar)

  • you end up with a different sound

  • that you can use practically in songs, or videos in my case,

  • that you can express yourself.

  • I don't know, there's no musical reason

  • to do a hurricane top soul.

  • - [Craig] You can't really write a song with skate tricks.

  • - No, I mean maybe.

  • Andrew Huang probably could.

  • - [Andrew Voiceover] PPAP.

  • (tapping and whistling)

  • - Number five on the list is brought up by dave475.

  • It stores memories.

  • "I can listen to music from high school

  • "that I haven't thought about in 10 years

  • "and immediately have an awesome time,

  • "still knowing every word or nearly every chord."

  • Whenever I hear an old DPC song, like this one,

  • I'm reminded of practices we had when we were writing it,

  • performances, I remember the very first moment

  • that Matt introduced this riff.

  • It's like time travel.

  • Yeah, it's like I can almost feel what you're feeling.

  • Back to that book again, Daniel Levitin,

  • who is a neuroscientist and a musician,

  • says there's a very strong connection

  • between memory and music.

  • "It would not be hyperbole to say that

  • "without memory, there would be no music.

  • "Music works because we remember the tones

  • "that we have just heard and are relating them

  • "to the ones that are just now being played.

  • "Music communicates to us emotionally

  • "through systematic violations of expectations."

  • Like if I just play this monotonous note,

  • (playing one note continuously)

  • Doesn't really feel like much.

  • But if I do this, (plays dissonant chord)

  • that's a stronger emotion.

  • But having expectations at all requires memory,

  • and Daniel has some stuff to say about it

  • involving the brain, which brings us to the next

  • thing.

  • Brain reasons!

  • "The amygdala, long considered the seat of emotions

  • "in mammals, sits adjacent to the hippocampus,

  • "long considered the crucial structure for memory storage.

  • "Every neuroimaging study that my laboratory has done

  • "has shown amygdala activation to music,

  • "but not to random collections of sounds or musical tones."

  • So basically, like, music makes us emotional

  • because of memory, or whatever, in theory.

  • There are many, many, many other brain reasons

  • why we like music that I'm not gonna go into here,

  • but here's a few tidbits that I didn't know were true

  • until I started making this video.

  • "Music listening, performance, and composition

  • "engage nearly every area of the brain

  • "that we have so far identified,

  • "and involve nearly every neural subsystem."

  • "Pitch is so important that the brain

  • "represents it directly;

  • "unlike almost any other musical attribute,

  • "we could place electrodes in the brain

  • "and be able to determine what pitches were being played

  • "to a person just by looking at the brain activity."

  • That's crazy, that's like we have a piano in our brain,

  • and I like to think that that piano

  • is being played by a monkey. (discordant piano playing)

  • Monkeys!

  • That brings us to the last thing on the list,

  • evolutionary reasons.

  • One reason sound causing emotions could be useful is that,

  • you know, you hear a lion roaring,

  • it's gonna cause fear, you're gonna run the other way,

  • you're gonna survive.

  • Or you hear a chicken clucking,

  • you're gonna run towards it to eat it.

  • Well, at least you would have before.

  • We have grocery stores now.

  • Or you might be vegan, the point is it helped for survival.

  • Some believe music doesn't have

  • an evolutionary purpose at all.

  • Psychologist Dan Sperber says that music is

  • an evolutionary parasite.

  • We just gain the ability to make

  • different pitches and sounds for communication,

  • and music just kind of happened alongside it.

  • Or it could be the equivalent of a giant peacock's tail,

  • if you're good at music, you're just gonna

  • attract more mates. (cartoon bouncing sound)

  • People could think, "Well, if this person was

  • "committed enough to get good at music,

  • "they will be committed to family."

  • And that's definitely true today.

  • Name one musician that isn't a dependable family member.

  • Another possibility is music's ability to

  • bring people together and strengthen bonds

  • could have helped societies work together and survive.

  • But I think the thing we can say for certain is that

  • no one knows for certain.

  • Regardless--

  • - It's a multifaceted tool.

  • - It really is.

  • Music's pretty great.

  • I think that's the conclusion I'll come to.

  • - It's pretty good!

  • - [Craig] Music's pretty good.

  • - Let's keep it going.

  • - There's a couple other things I want to mention

  • that I just couldn't fit in a list

  • that I just found interesting.

  • I found this video about how deaf people

  • can enjoy music just like anyone.

  • - My body feels like, when I dance,

  • it feels like an earthquake.

  • - And a commenter on my second channel, WheezyNews,

  • brought up musical anhedonia,

  • which involves an individual's incapacity

  • to enjoy listening to music.

  • Apparently affects 3-5% of the population,

  • so if you don't enjoy music,

  • that's fine.

  • And if you want to learn a lot more detail

  • that I just couldn't fit in this video,

  • you should check out the book,

  • ""This Is Your Brain On Music,""

  • also ""Musicophilia: Tales of Music and the Brain""

  • by Oliver Sacks, and David Byrne's book,

  • which Nate recommended, and many of you recommended,

  • ""How Music Works.""

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  • (high piano note)

- So as the most successful musician of all time,

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