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  • Transcript of Chair Powell's Press Conference March 20,

  • 2019 CHAIR POWELL.

  • Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome.

  • I will begin with an overview of economic conditions

  • and an explanation

  • of the decisions the Committee made at today's meeting.

  • My colleagues and I have one overarching goal:

  • to sustain the economic expansion,

  • with a strong job market and stable prices, for the benefit

  • of the American people.

  • The U.S. economy is in a good place, and we will continue

  • to use our monetary policy tools to help keep it there.

  • The jobs market is strong, showing healthier wage gains

  • and prompting many people to join or remain in the workforce.

  • The unemployment rate is near historic lows,

  • and inflation remains near our 2 percent goal.

  • We continue to expect that the American economy will grow

  • at a solid pace in 2019, although likely slower

  • than the very strong pace of 2018.

  • We believe that our current policy stance is appropriate.

  • Since last year, however, we have noted some developments

  • at home and around the world that bear close attention.

  • Given the overall favorable conditions in our economy,

  • my colleagues and I will be patient in assessing what,

  • if any, changes in the stance of policy may be needed.

  • Let me explain in more detail how incoming data warrant our

  • current stance and a wait and see approach to changes.

  • With the benefit of fiscal stimulus and other tailwinds,

  • growth in 2018 was strong-in fact, at 3.1 percent,

  • the strongest year in more than a decade.

  • For some time, most forecasts have called for growth

  • to continue in 2019 at a somewhat lower

  • but still healthy pace.

  • For example, last September,

  • Committee participants saw growth coming in at

  • about 2.5 percent this year.

  • Data arriving since September suggest

  • that growth is slowing somewhat more than expected.

  • Financial conditions tightened considerably

  • over the fourth quarter.

  • While conditions have eased since then,

  • they remain less supportive of growth than during most of 2018.

  • Growth has slowed in some foreign economies-notably,

  • in Europe and China.

  • While the U.S. economy showed little evidence of slowdown

  • through the end of 2018, the limited data we have

  • so far this year have been somewhat more mixed.

  • Unusually strong payroll job growth in January was followed

  • by little growth at all in February.

  • Smoothing through these variations,

  • average monthly job growth appears to have stepped

  • down from last year's strong pace, but job gains remain well

  • above the pace necessary to provide jobs

  • for new labor force entrants.

  • Many other labor market indicators continue

  • to show strength.

  • Weak retail sales data

  • for December bounced back considerably in January but,

  • on balance, seem to point

  • to somewhat slower growth in consumer spending.

  • Business fixed investment also appears to be growing

  • at a slower pace than last year.

  • Inflation has been muted, and some indicators

  • of longer-term inflation expectations remain

  • at the low end of their ranges in recent years.

  • Along with these developments, unresolved policy issues,

  • such as Brexit and the ongoing trade negotiations,

  • pose some risks to the outlook.

  • Much of the discussion at our meeting focused

  • on what we should make of the varied indicators.

  • Today's Summary of Economic Projections, the SEP,

  • reflects the assessments

  • of individual Committee participants.

  • And these views are in line with a broad range of other forecasts

  • and point to a modest slowdown,

  • with overall conditions remaining favorable.

  • FOMC participants sought-now see 2019 growth

  • at roughly 2 percent, with the unemployment rate remaining

  • below 4 percent.

  • Core inflation, which omits the effects of volatile food

  • and energy prices, remains close to 2 percent.

  • Declines in oil prices since last fall are expected

  • to push headline inflation below 2 percent for a time,

  • but this effect is likely to be temporary.

  • Now, I'm describing views of the most likely outcomes,

  • but historical experience reminds us that growth

  • and inflation this year could be stronger or weaker

  • than what we now project.

  • The federal funds rate is now in the broad range of estimates

  • of neutral-the rate that tends neither to stimulate nor

  • to restrain the economy.

  • As I noted, my colleagues and I think

  • that this setting is well suited to the current outlook

  • and believe that we should be patient in assessing the need

  • for any change in the stance of policy.

  • "Patient" means that we see no need to rush to judgment.

  • It may be some time before the outlook for jobs

  • and inflation calls clearly for a change in policy.

  • In discussing the Committee's projections,

  • it's useful to note what those projections are,

  • as well as what they are not.

  • The SEP includes participants' individual projections

  • of the most likely economic scenario, along with their views

  • of the appropriate path

  • of the federal funds rate in that scenario.

  • Views about the most likely scenario form one input

  • into our policy discussions.

  • We also discuss other plausible scenarios, including the risk

  • of more worrisome outcomes.

  • These and other scenarios and many other considerations go

  • into policy but are not reflected in projections

  • of the most likely case.

  • Thus, we always emphasize that the interest rate projections

  • in the SEP are not a Committee decision.

  • They are not a Committee plan.

  • As Chair Yellen noted some years ago, the FOMC statement,

  • rather than the dot plot, is the device that the Committee uses

  • to express its opinions about the likely path of rates.

  • Today the Committee released Balance Sheet Normalization

  • Principles and Plans-revised Balance Sheet Normalization

  • Principles and Plans.

  • We have long said that the size

  • of the balance sheet will be considered normalized

  • when the balance sheet is once again

  • at the smallest level consistent

  • with conducting monetary policy efficiently and effectively.

  • We have sought to make the normalization process

  • transparent, predictable, and gradual in order

  • to minimize disruption and risks to our dual-mandate objectives.

  • Today's announcement is the result of discussions

  • over the past four FOMC meetings about how best

  • to achieve these goals.

  • The plans have many technical details, and I'll be happy

  • to answer questions on those details.

  • But, for now, I'll summarize the key elements.

  • Since October 2017, we have been allowing our asset holdings

  • to decline by not reinvesting all of the payments we receive

  • as securities matured or were prepaid.

  • Today we announced that we intend to slow the runoff

  • of our assets starting in May and to cease runoff entirely

  • in September of this year.

  • In September, reserve balances may still be somewhat

  • above the level required

  • to conduct policy efficiently and effectively.

  • If this is so, we may hold the size

  • of our asset holdings roughly constant for a time.

  • During this time, ongoing gradual increases in currency

  • and our other nonreserve liabilities would imply very

  • gradual declines in reserve balances.

  • When the Committee judges

  • that reserves should not decline further,

  • securities holdings will again begin to rise,

  • as dictated by the growth of demand for our reserve

  • and nonreserve liabilities.

  • We believe that these plans will facilitate a predictable,

  • transparent, and smooth process,

  • and we will make additional adjustments

  • if conditions warrant.

  • The Committee will soon turn

  • to a few remaining normalization topics,

  • including the desired maturity composition of our portfolio

  • of Treasury securities.

  • We maintain our long-stated intention to return

  • to a portfolio consisting mainly of Treasury securities.

  • Thank you.

  • And I will be glad to take your questions.

  • HEATHER LONG.

  • Heather Long from the Washington Post.

  • On the broader economy, can you clarify how worried the FOMC is

  • about a steep slowdown?

  • Some of the actions today look like there is more worry.

  • And on the balance sheet, can you clarify:

  • Does the FOMC see the runoff as a form of monetary tightening?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • So, on the outlook, our outlook is a positive one.

  • So, as I mentioned, FOMC participants continue

  • to see growth this year of around 2 percent,

  • just a bit below what we saw back in-at the end of last year.

  • And part of that is seeing

  • that economic fundamentals-underlying economic

  • fundamentals are still very strong.

  • You have a strong labor market by most measures.

  • You have rising incomes.

  • You've got very low unemployment.

  • You have confidence surveys for households and also

  • for businesses that are at attractive levels,

  • and you also have financial conditions

  • that are more accommodative

  • than they were a couple of months ago.

  • So we see the outlook as a positive one.

  • As far as balance sheet-the balance sheet plan,

  • the answer to that is, you asked whether that's related

  • to our monetary policy, in effect,

  • and the answer is really "no."

  • We are-we still-we think of the interest rate tool

  • as the principal tool of monetary policy, and we think

  • of ourselves as returning the balance sheet to a normal level

  • over the course of the next six months.

  • And we're not really thinking of those

  • as two different tools of monetary policy.

  • STEVE LIESMAN.

  • Steve Liesman, CNBC.

  • Mr. Chairman, can you talk

  • about how global developments are affecting the U.S.?

  • What's the cause of the weakness over there?

  • How much is it responsible for the downgrade in GDP over here?

  • And what impact are tariffs, both in the United States

  • and retaliatory tariffs, having on both the U.S.

  • and the global economies?

  • Thank you.

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • So the global economy was a tailwind

  • for the United States in 2017.

  • That was the year of synchronized global growth.

  • And we began 2018 expecting and hoping for more of the same.

  • What happened instead is that the global economy started

  • to gradually slow, and now we see a situation

  • where the European economy has slowed substantially-and

  • so has the Chinese economy,

  • although the European economy more.

  • And just as strong global growth was a tailwind,

  • weaker global growth can be a headwind to our economy.

  • How big is that effect?

  • It's hard to be precise about it, but,

  • clearly, we will feel that.

  • It is an integrated global economy,

  • and global financial markets are integrated as well.

  • In terms of what's causing it,

  • it seems to be a range of different things.

  • In China, you have, you know,

  • factors that are very specific to China.

  • The main point, though, is that, I would say,

  • the outlook-let's look at the outlook.

  • Chinese authorities have taken many steps since the middle

  • of last year to support economic activity,

  • and I think the base case is that, ultimately,

  • Chinese activity will stabilize at an attractive level.

  • And in Europe, you know, we see some weakening, but, again,

  • we don't see-we don't see recession,

  • and we do see positive growth still.

  • You ask about tariffs.

  • I would say, tariffs may be a factor in China.

  • I don't think they're the main factor.

  • I think the main factors are the delevering campaign

  • that the government undertook a couple of years ago

  • and also just the longer-term slowing

  • to a more sustainable pace of growth

  • that economies find as they mature.

  • In terms of our own economy,

  • the level of tariffs is relatively small in the size

  • of our economy-relative to the size of our economy.

  • We have, since the beginning of the year-and before,

  • really-been hearing from our extensive network

  • of business contacts a lot of concerns about tariffs,

  • concerns about material costs on imported products, and the loss

  • of markets and things like that, depending on which industry,

  • so there's a fair amount of uncertainty.

  • It's hard to say how much

  • of an effect that's having on our economy.

  • It's very hard to tease that apart.

  • But I will say, it's been a prominent concern among our

  • business contacts for some time now.

  • JAMES PUZZANGHERA.

  • Hi. Thank you, Chairman.

  • I want to switch gears temporarily to Wells Fargo.

  • Wells Fargo last week announced

  • that its chief executive received a 5 percent pay raise

  • last year, and this comes among continued settlements

  • by the bank of various consumer abuse and reports

  • that new consumer-unfriendly sales incentives are returning.

  • Do you have concerns about Wells Fargo's efforts

  • to fix its problems, and do you expect the asset cap to remain

  • in place beyond this year?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • Wells Fargo.

  • So what happened at Wells Fargo really was a remarkably

  • widespread series of breakdowns, really,

  • in their risk-management apparatus, which resulted

  • in significant consumer abuses, let's say.

  • And as it's gone on and on,

  • it's become clear that-I think some time ago it became clear

  • that these are deep problems that needed to be addressed

  • in a fundamental kind of a way.

  • So there's a lot of work to do on that.

  • And we put in place, really, an unprecedented sanction

  • in the form of an asset growth cap, and we will not lift

  • that until Wells Fargo gets their arms around this,

  • comes forward with plans, implements those plans,

  • and we're satisfied with what they've done.

  • And that's not where we are right now.

  • JAMES PUZZANGHERA.

  • Do you believe it's appropriate-do you believe it's

  • appropriate for the CEO to be getting a pay raise in light

  • of those conditions, in terms of corporate governance?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • You know, our main supervisory focus is

  • on the company fixing its risk-management approach

  • and fundamentally rebuilding that approach.

  • We don't approve individual pay packages.

  • We do supervise boards of directors for, you know,

  • for having a set of compensation practices

  • that don't reward short-term risk-taking

  • and that sort of thing.

  • And we will supervise based on that.

  • MICHAEL MCKEE.

  • Michael McKee with Bloomberg Radio and Television.

  • I wonder if you could discuss the balance of risks.

  • I know you said that the outlook among the Committee members is a

  • positive one, but since the end of the meeting,

  • the 3-month-10-year Treasury spread has fallen

  • to 7 basis points, and now,

  • according to fed funds futures trading,

  • there's a 50 percent chance of a rate cut by next January.

  • How far off are the markets?

  • What do you think the risks actually are?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • Well, first, the data are not currently sending a signal

  • that we need to move in one direction

  • or another, in my view.

  • I would say it this way: We see a positive outlook

  • for this year, a favorable outlook

  • for this year, as I mentioned.

  • So, in our SEP projections, Committee members, participants,

  • generally see growth of around 2 percent.

  • They see unemployment remaining below 4 percent.

  • They see inflation remaining close to target.

  • And they see growth, as I said, around 2 percent.

  • So, you know, that's a positive outlook.

  • It's a favorable outlook.

  • We're also very mindful-and we have been, of course,

  • all along-of what the risks are.

  • And you see-you mentioned some of them.

  • You know, you see slowing global growth.

  • You still have-there's no resolution of Brexit.

  • There's no resolution, really, of the trade talks.

  • These are ongoing risks.

  • We're also carefully monitoring what's happening

  • with U.S. growth.

  • We called that out in our statement.

  • You know, the limited data that we have do show a slowdown.

  • On the other hand, as I mentioned,

  • we see the underlying economic fundamentals

  • for growth this year as still very positive.

  • So that's really how we're thinking about it.

  • JIM TANKERSLEY.

  • Hi, Mr. Chairman.

  • Jim Tankersley, New York Times.

  • I'm curious, you're now a full percentage point-actually,

  • more than a percentage point-below the White House

  • in your projections for growth this year.

  • By my calculations, that's the largest spread we've seen

  • since the end of the recession

  • between the White House and the Fed.

  • Why, for one, do you see-do you think you see the economy

  • so differently than they do, and do you worry at all

  • about implications for policy from that?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • I haven't-I haven't seen their projection.

  • I wouldn't comment on their projection.

  • I would take it this way.

  • You can think of growth as being composed of two things.

  • And one is really growth in the workforce-more hours worked.

  • And the other is productivity-it's output

  • per hour.

  • You can really think of growth as those two things.

  • And I've been calling-often mentioning these days

  • that it would be great if we had national-level policies

  • to support higher labor force participation.

  • The United States is now one

  • of the lowest countries among the advanced economies,

  • in terms of our labor force participation

  • by prime-age workers.

  • And that's a place where we can grow faster.

  • If we can bring more people into the labor force

  • and give them a chance to contribute to and benefit

  • from our overall prosperity,

  • that will be a great thing for the country.

  • So I would like to see that.

  • Productivity is much harder.

  • It's very difficult to project productivity

  • over long stretches of time.

  • It's a function of evolving technology.

  • So, I guess I would say, what is the potential growth rate?

  • It's quite hard to know with any precision, and I just would

  • like to see us, you know, undertake an effort

  • to make it be as high as it can sustainably be.

  • JIM TANKERSLEY.

  • A quick follow-up on that.

  • Do you see the tax cuts-the 2017 tax cuts

  • as having provided a large boost to labor force participation

  • as the White House does?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • I would say so.

  • I think it's clear that the tax and spending policies

  • that were adopted early last year supported demand

  • in a significant way last year.

  • And it's also the case, I think,

  • that they should have some supply-side effects.

  • I think it's hard to know, it's hard to identify those

  • with any precision, and we hope they're-we hope they're

  • very large.

  • You know, the idea would be

  • that lowering corporate taxes would spur more corporate

  • investment, which would spur more productivity,

  • and lowering individual taxes would spur greater labor

  • force participation.

  • I wouldn't want to be handing-you know,

  • assigning credit or blame for that, but I do think

  • that the performance of labor force participation

  • over the last, really, three

  • or four years has been an upside surprise

  • that most people didn't see coming,

  • and it's extremely welcome.

  • MARTIN CRUTSINGER.

  • Marty Crutsinger with the Associated Press.

  • With the new dot plot today,

  • you've gone from two rate hikes in 2019 to zero.

  • You still have one showing for next year.

  • The fed funds futures trading, as has been alluded to,

  • is showing rate cuts at the end of this year.

  • Are they-is that a possibility in your mind,

  • given the sharp change you've made at this meeting?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • As I mentioned, the data

  • that we're seeing are not currently sending a signal

  • which suggests moving in either direction for me,

  • which is really why we're being patient.

  • We feel our policy rate is in the range of neutral.

  • The economy is growing at about trend.

  • Inflation is close to target.

  • Unemployment is under 3 percent.

  • It's a great time for us to be patient and watch and wait

  • and see how things evolve.

  • VICTORIA GUIDA.

  • Hi. Victoria Guida with Politico.

  • On stress testing, I wanted to ask, how do you respond

  • to criticism that the Fed's recent move

  • to remove the qualitative objection

  • from CCAR makes it less transparent

  • to the general public?

  • And then, also, Governor Brainard dissented

  • on that decision, and she's dissented

  • on some other decisions as well regulatorily recently.

  • Does it concern you, given

  • that the Fed has traditionally been a consensus-based

  • organization, if you keep having these decisions where, you know,

  • a Board member is not onboard with them?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • So you mentioned the qualitative aspect of CCAR.

  • And U.S.-the large U.S. financial institutions have made

  • significant progress there and are now much better

  • at the capital planning process.

  • And for, really, some time now, for a couple of years,

  • we've talked about moving supervision

  • of that process-moving to a supervisory approach

  • to that rather than having a pass/fail in the stress tests.

  • We've been talking about that for quite a while.

  • And I think, given the level that the banks have moved

  • to in capital planning, we did that.

  • It shouldn't be a big surprise-something we've been

  • talking about doing for a couple of years.

  • For banks that are newer to CCAR and haven't made that kind

  • of progress, then they're still going

  • to be part of-they're still going to have a qualitative test

  • until they can reach similar levels of achievement.

  • In terms of having disparate views, I-look,

  • we try-we are very much a consensus-driven organization.

  • We try very hard to reach consensus on things.

  • In the end, it's very healthy to have disparate views

  • and to state them publicly and put them on the record.

  • It's nothing but healthy from my standpoint.

  • We'll always be trying to reach consensus, and, you know,

  • I'm committed to that.

  • TREVOR HUNNICUTT.

  • Trevor Hunnicutt from Reuters.

  • Just-you mentioned that you have, kind of,

  • a positive outlook as it regards the economy

  • but also see slower growth on the household side

  • and the business side.

  • Given how big of a part of the U.S. economy that is,

  • what gives you, kind of,

  • confidence that both the slowdown we're seeing

  • is temporary?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • So on the household side, what we saw was a very weak reading

  • on retail sales in December and then a bounceback

  • in the January reading.

  • And, you know, it was a surprise, I would say,

  • and inconsistent

  • with a significant amount of other data.

  • We're not dismissing it in any way, but I would go back to,

  • what is it that supports consumer spending?

  • It's 70 percent of the economy, as you point out.

  • It's strong economic underlying fundamentals, so, rising wages,

  • high levels of employment, low levels of unemployment,

  • high levels of job creation, confidence.

  • The household confidence surveys have moved back up to

  • where they were last summer.

  • So we look at those fundamentals, and we think

  • that looks like a setting

  • in which consumption will have support

  • from underlying economic fundamentals.

  • And that's really what we're thinking there.

  • So, you know, we're also patiently watching

  • and waiting and not assuming.

  • We're not taking no signal from the incoming data;

  • that's why we called it out in our statement.

  • So I think our eyes are open on this.

  • NICK TIMIRAOS.

  • Nick Timiraos of the Wall Street Journal.

  • Chair Powell, in 1998 the Fed eased policy in a way

  • that some say may have avoided a recession,

  • others say may have helped fuel the NASDAQ tech stock bubble.

  • And financial conditions have eased considerably this year

  • since the policy pivot that you made clear in January.

  • The S&P, for example, is just 3 percent below last

  • summer's peak.

  • And so, I wonder, does this episode from 20 years ago bear

  • at all on your thinking today about the risks posed

  • by rising asset values in an environment

  • of a shallower policy path?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • We're in a very different world today and post-crisis,

  • because we now very carefully monitor financial conditions

  • and financial stability concerns on an ongoing basis,

  • and we publish a report twice a year,

  • and we have quarterly Board meetings and briefings

  • where we look deeply into these things.

  • So this is something we have very much on our radar screen.

  • And I would say, overall,

  • we don't see financial stability vulnerabilities as high.

  • There are some aspects of the financial markets

  • that we're carefully monitoring, and those are in the nature

  • of things that might be amplifiers

  • to a downturn-as opposed to a financial stability concern,

  • which might lead to a financial crisis and that kind

  • of thing, which we don't see.

  • So we do monitor that.

  • And I would also say, you know, that the whole question

  • of monetary policy and financial stability is an unsettled

  • and difficult one in our world.

  • We do think that the principal tools for, you know,

  • for managing financial stability are regulation, supervision,

  • macroprudential tools, and those sorts of things as opposed

  • to changing the interest rate.

  • But we're certainly very mindful

  • of financial conditions and those risks.

  • NICK TIMIRAOS.

  • If I could ask a follow-up-if it's the case that we're

  • in a lower neutral interest rate world

  • where you could have more asset price appreciation,

  • do you think the Fed needs more macroprudential tools

  • so that it doesn't have to lean

  • on monetary policy to do so much?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • It's a very difficult question with a long answer.

  • We-in our system, we mainly rely on "through the cycle" tools

  • like high capital and stress tests.

  • Our financial stability system is built on those tools:

  • high capital, high liquidity,

  • resolution planning, stress testing.

  • So those are always on.

  • We also have some tools,

  • like the countercyclical capital buffer, which we can deploy

  • at times when vulnerabilities are meaningfully above normal.

  • But we do rely on those tools.

  • And I would say, our banks are well capitalized.

  • They're far better capitalized and better aware of their risks

  • and more liquid than they were before the financial crisis.

  • So they'll be more resilient in, you know,

  • in difficult states of the economy.

  • DONNA BORAK.

  • Donna Borak with CNN.

  • Included in the President's fiscal 2020 budget is a new

  • estimate that the nation's debt will balloon to more

  • than $31 trillion over the next decade, by 2029.

  • You've previously said that the country is

  • on an unsustainable fiscal path.

  • How alarming is that number to you?

  • And, while the United States might not be quite there yet,

  • when do you begin to worry about a possible credit crisis?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • I do think that deficits matter,

  • and I do think-I think it's not really controversial to say

  • that our debt can't grow faster than our economy indefinitely

  • and that's what it's doing now.

  • So this is something we will have to deal with,

  • and I think we can't really lose sight of that,

  • and I'd like to see a greater focus on that over time.

  • It's not in the nature of a near-term debt crisis

  • or anything like that, and I wouldn't want to try to predict

  • when that would happen, but it is something that it's important

  • that the public discussion really come back to,

  • if I can say that.

  • And we will have to deal with it eventually.

  • JAMES POLITI.

  • James Politi of the Financial Times.

  • There's huge uncertainty at the moment over the fate

  • of the Brexit negotiations.

  • How much of a factor has this been for the Fed

  • in turning towards a kind of patient approach

  • to monetary policy, and what's your base case on that?

  • And on the size of the balance sheet,

  • what's your-do you have a numerical estimate

  • for where it will be at the end

  • of September once the runoff is complete?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • So, of course, we're watching Brexit carefully and hoping

  • that it can be resolved in an orderly way.

  • From our standpoint, the part of it that we can control is

  • that we've been involved

  • with supervising our financial institutions

  • that are active either in the United Kingdom

  • or the European Union or both to make sure that they're ready

  • for the full range of possible outcomes to the-to Brexit.

  • So-and in doing so, we've also had-we've also worked alongside

  • regulators from the United Kingdom and the EU.

  • So we do, again, hope that that can be resolved well,

  • but we know that our banks are well capitalized and resilient

  • to different kinds of events.

  • In terms of the size of the balance sheet,

  • the balance sheet will be of a size of approximately 17 percent

  • of GDP around the end of this year, down from 25 percent

  • of GDP at the end of 2014-so,

  • significantly smaller relative to GDP than it was.

  • I'm guessing you're looking for a dollar number, though,

  • probably, and that would be-so, for the size

  • of the balance sheet, it looks like it'll be a bit

  • above $3.5 trillion then.

  • GREG ROBB.

  • Greg Robb from MarketWatch.

  • Chairman Powell, could you talk through your outlook

  • for inflation this year?

  • Aren't-you're not concerned about it?

  • And rising-why aren't rising wages feeding into inflation?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • Let me take wages first, if I can.

  • So wages have moved up in the last couple of years

  • and are now running at healthier, higher levels,

  • and that's a good thing.

  • In fact, a lot of the wage gains have been going

  • to lower-paid workers, as can happen late in the cycle,

  • which is also a good thing.

  • So-but that's not price inflation,

  • that's wage inflation.

  • Our mandate, sorry, is price inflation.

  • So what I see is inflation that's close to 2 percent

  • but that sort of keeps bumping up against 2 percent

  • and then maybe moving back down a little bit.

  • And I don't feel that we have kind

  • of convincingly achieved our 2 percent mandate

  • in a symmetrical way.

  • Now, what do we mean by "symmetrical"?

  • What we really mean is that we would look at-we know

  • that inflation will move around on both sides of the target,

  • and what we say is that we would be equally concerned

  • with inflation persistently

  • above as persistently below the target.

  • So that's really our framework.

  • And I don't think we've quite achieved that yet,

  • because we're really 10 years deep

  • in this-almost 10 years-in this expansion,

  • and inflation is still kind of, I'd say, not, you know,

  • clearly meeting our target.

  • So that's one of the reasons why we're being patient.

  • I think, as I've said before, I think inflation

  • that is a little bit below our target-particularly headline

  • inflation this year will be, you know,

  • meaningfully below our target for most of the year

  • because of lower oil prices, but we project

  • that core will be too-that gives us the ability to be patient

  • and not move until we see

  • that our target goals are being achieved.

  • GREG ROBB.

  • I just wanted to press a little bit about,

  • what is the story the Committee-you know, when you get

  • in the discussion today and yesterday about inflation,

  • what kind of is the story that emerges?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • So there are a bunch of different stories.

  • There's no real easy answer.

  • One of them is just that the natural rate

  • of unemployment is lower than people think.

  • That's one way to think about it,

  • that there's still more slack in the economy.

  • Another is that expectations play a very-inflation

  • expectations play a very key role in our framework

  • and other frameworks, and, you know, there is the possibility

  • that some people discuss

  • of expectations being anchored but below 2 percent.

  • And so, either way, inflation itself has kind of bounced

  • around a little below 2 percent.

  • That's the record.

  • PAUL KIERNAN.

  • Hi, Chairman Powell.

  • Thanks for the question.

  • Paul Kiernan from Dow Jones Newswires.

  • I'm just kind of curious-I mean,

  • this below-target inflation is a global phenomenon,

  • at least across advanced economies, and I'd just

  • like to kind of hear your thoughts about what kind

  • of challenges that poses to policymakers like yourself

  • and the global economy in general.

  • Yes, thanks.

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • It's a major challenge.

  • It's one of the major challenges of our time, really,

  • to have inflation-you know, downward pressure

  • on inflation, let's say.

  • It gives central banks less room to, you know,

  • to respond to downturns, right?

  • So if inflation expectations are below 2 percent,

  • they're always going to be pulling inflation down,

  • and we're going to be paddling upstream in trying to, you know,

  • keep inflation at 2 percent, which gives us some room to cut,

  • you know, when it's time to cut rates when the economy weakens.

  • And, you know, that's something that central banks face all

  • over the world, and we certainly face that problem too.

  • It's one of the-one of the things we're looking

  • into as part of our strategic monetary policy review

  • this year.

  • The proximity to the zero lower bound calls

  • for more creative thinking about ways we can, you know,

  • uphold the credibility of our inflation target, and, you know,

  • we're open minded about ways we can do that.

  • EDWARD LAWRENCE.

  • Edward Lawrence from Fox Business Network.

  • So I counted five downgrades in the first paragraph

  • of the FOMC statement.

  • What conditions do you need to see in order for a rate cut

  • or a rate hike on the other side of that then?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • Well, we-I think we were-we wanted to be careful to go ahead

  • and acknowledge the things.

  • I think it's relatively little hard data so far this year,

  • but we were careful to point

  • out lower retail sales-the weak November meeting-BFI,

  • all those things, and I think that was the right thing to do.

  • Notwithstanding that, we do have a positive outlook for the year

  • for the reasons I mentioned-you know,

  • solid underlying economic fundamentals, et cetera.

  • So, and in terms of what it would take, I'd say, again,

  • today we don't see any-we don't see data coming in that suggests

  • that we should move in either direction.

  • They suggest that we should remain patient

  • and let the situation clarify itself over time.

  • When the time comes, we'll act appropriately.

  • MATTHEW BOESLER.

  • Hi. Matthew Boesler at Bloomberg.

  • Fed Vice Chairman Rich Clarida has talked about how the decline

  • in labor's share of income

  • and the corresponding high profit margins might mean

  • that lower unemployment

  • and higher wage growth is not flowing

  • through to price inflation the way it used to.

  • But, so far throughout this tightening cycle,

  • the Fed has not allowed wage growth to rise

  • above longer-term interest rates until just very recently.

  • So I'm wondering if, going forward, given these insights

  • about the labor share and high profit margins and the linkage

  • between wages and prices, would you be in favor

  • of allowing wage growth to continue accelerating

  • without matching that with higher interest rates?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • Well, let me say that we've had, you know, a significant move

  • up in wages and compensation over the last few years,

  • and I-which does not trouble me

  • from the standpoint of inflation.

  • We've had-also had-in other cycles,

  • we've had situations where, you know,

  • unit labor costs were moving up above inflation,

  • and that didn't lead to price inflation.

  • It does-you know, in theory, it can squeeze corporate margins,

  • and, you know, that can't go on indefinitely.

  • But, nonetheless, I don't see the current wage picture

  • as concerning from an inflation standpoint.

  • MATTHEW BOESLER.

  • More generally, to the extent that wage growth in excess

  • of interest rates allows households to pay

  • down debt faster, whereas interest rates in excess

  • of wage growth risks a further buildup in debt,

  • how do you account for the sort

  • of financial stability consequences

  • of varying interest rates relative to wage growth?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • I don't think we look at-I understand what you're asking,

  • but we're looking at-our mandate is price inflation

  • and maximum employment, and that's what we're looking

  • at with setting interest rates.

  • And we also monitor financial stability very carefully

  • across all meaningful asset categories.

  • I don't think we tie it particularly

  • to the relationship you're talking about.

  • NANCY MARSHALL-GENZER.

  • Nancy Marshall-Genzer with Marketplace.

  • Just a quick follow-up on Brexit.

  • You mentioned that you're making sure

  • that U.S. financial institutions are ready for whatever outcome.

  • I'm wondering, can you be a little more specific about that?

  • And also, how are you preparing for any pressures

  • that a hard Brexit would put on the U.S. dollar?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • Well, as I mentioned, you know, with the stress tests

  • that the largest financial institutions-and those are the

  • ones that tend to be active internationally-that they

  • undergo every year, we put them

  • through very large financial shocks with large losses

  • and big changes in markets every year.

  • And we vary that every year.

  • So that's a pretty good-you know,

  • having done that for a number of years now,

  • that's-and having them be required

  • to have adequate capital and liquidity even

  • after all that happens.

  • So that's a good thing to have done, knowing that you're going

  • into something that's quite unknown,

  • which may prove stressful, it may not prove stressful,

  • depending on what the outcome is.

  • So I think all that has probably prepared our institutions well.

  • That said, nothing like this has happened in recent years,

  • and so it's really hard to be confident.

  • So we're very watchful about what's going on.

  • NANCY MARSHALL-GENZER.

  • And as far as the dollar goes?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • So we don't-you know, we-the dollar is really the business

  • of the Treasury Department.

  • It's certainly a financial condition unto itself that plays

  • into our models, but we don't, you know, seek or model

  • or attempt to affect the dollar directly with our policies.

  • JOHN HELTMAN.

  • Hi. John Heltman-John Heltman with American Banker.

  • I have a question about the Fed's proposal from October

  • of last year regarding enhanced prudential standards

  • for banks above $250 billion.

  • Some analysts have suggested

  • that that proposal could encourage consolidation mergers

  • and acquisition among banks, particularly

  • at the upper end of the range.

  • I'm curious if the Fed anticipated that outcome

  • and whether you have any reservations

  • or whether you-the Fed cares

  • about bank consolidation more generally.

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • We're not motivated by a particular view

  • of industry structure that we're trying to achieve

  • through our regulation.

  • I think we want to have banks of all different sizes

  • and with different business models out there carrying

  • out their functions in the economy.

  • So that's how we think about that.

  • I would also say, when banks merge and move

  • into a larger asset category, they get stronger regulation,

  • not weaker regulation.

  • So if you think about it, you know,

  • if you're a medium-sized bank and you merge

  • with another medium-sized bank, you wind up being more

  • than a medium-sized bank, you know.

  • But the sense of our tapering is that-"tailoring,"

  • sorry-our tailoring policy is

  • that the highest expectations fall upon the largest,

  • most systemically important, most complex institutions,

  • and then at every step along the way,

  • the expectations become more tailored to the risks

  • that that institution actually presents to the economy.

  • So- BRIAN CHEUNG.

  • Hi, Chair Powell.

  • Brian Cheung with Yahoo Finance.

  • Thanks for taking my question.

  • So as the Fed remains on pause,

  • does the central bank find the onus on fiscal policy

  • to extend its economic recovery and fend off a slowdown-as in,

  • is the Fed positioning itself to take on a reactionary role

  • to whatever fiscal policy is doing?

  • I'm asking because we're seeing the waning effect of tax reform

  • and no material news on infrastructure,

  • so just wondering kind

  • of how you feel the monetary policy-fiscal policy balance is

  • in swing right now.

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • So we take-we take fiscal policy as, you know,

  • as exogenous to what we do.

  • You know, in other words, whatever happens

  • with fiscal policy, we take that.

  • We don't evaluate it, we don't criticize it,

  • and we don't overreact to it either.

  • So I think it's just a fact.

  • It's just an external fact about the economy for us.

  • I mean, our policy is-the reason we're on hold is

  • that we think our policy rate is in a good place,

  • and we think the economy is in a good place,

  • and we're watching carefully as we see these events evolve

  • around the world and at home,

  • and we think that's what we need to be doing.

  • STEVEN BECKNER.

  • Steve Beckner, freelance journalist reporting

  • for NPR, Mr. Chairman.

  • The Fed has been allowing the average maturity of securities

  • in its bond portfolio to lengthen.

  • Is this aimed at-consciously aimed

  • at flattening the yield curve, and is that going to be part

  • of the Fed's longer-run balance sheet strategy?

  • And if flattening the yield curve is a conscious long-term

  • strategy, are you concerned about the side effect

  • of the heightening concerns about a flatter

  • or inverted yield curve being a harbinger of recession?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • The basic answer to your question is "no."

  • We are-the decision about the maturity composition

  • of the Fed's balance sheet in the longer run lies ahead of us.

  • We have not made that decision,

  • and we're-we really haven't begun to have a serious series

  • of discussions over a series of meetings to grapple with that.

  • That, I think, will be something we turn to reasonably soon,

  • but I think it will take some time.

  • It's a consequential decision and one that needs some thought.

  • We've had a lot of balance sheet discussions, as I mentioned,

  • over the last four meetings,

  • but this is the next big one that-big decision

  • that we'll face.

  • And, you know, I think we're not going to be in a rush

  • to resolve it, but we'll turn to it soon.

  • STEVEN BECKNER.

  • Can I just follow up, please?

  • Well, how do you account for the fact

  • that the average maturity has in fact been lengthening

  • and contributing to a flattening of the yield curve?

  • Is that-what's-what's causing that?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • I think, isn't it just that as securities roll off,

  • you wind up investing in-you know, as a 10-year rolls off,

  • you wind up investing in a 10-year, and automatically

  • that lengthens things.

  • It's not at all a plan to lengthen the balance sheet.

  • It's just been-we try to have a practice

  • that we don't deviate from, and it's transparent,

  • and-no policy message in that.

  • JEAN YUNG.

  • Hi, Jean Yung with Market News.

  • I wanted to ask, at what point do you expect to begin

  • to allow the balance sheet to grow slowly again?

  • What are-how will you make that decision?

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • So, as I-as I mentioned, the balance sheet runoff will stop

  • at about-at September 30.

  • And if it is our view at that time

  • that we're still a ways away from-a ways

  • above a balance sheet that is what we need to efficiently

  • and effectively conduct monetary policy,

  • at that time we will hold the balance sheet constant.

  • And then what'll happen is, organically, very gradually,

  • currency and other nonreserved liabilities will grow,

  • and reserves will shrink.

  • And the question you're asking is, how long will that go on?

  • The truth is, we don't know, and we don't really know

  • that we'll move past September 30th.

  • The level of reserve demand is something that we've put a lot

  • of effort and time into creating estimates,

  • based on market intelligence and surveys and that kind of thing.

  • The truth is, we don't know.

  • It may evolve over time.

  • So we'll just have to see.

  • I wouldn't want to put a time out there for that,

  • but-so I'll just leave it there.

  • COURTENAY BROWN.

  • Hi, Mr. Chairman.

  • Courtenay Brown from Axios.

  • Are you concerned at all what the market impact will be should

  • the Fed resume policy tightening somewhere down the line?

  • As I'm sure you know, the market listens

  • to you very, very closely.

  • CHAIR POWELL.

  • You know, I'm just going to say that I think we're

  • in a good place right now, which is, we're being patient,

  • we're watching, we don't see any data pushing us to move rates

  • in either direction, and we're going to watch carefully

  • and patiently as we allow events to evolve.

  • And when they do clarify, we will act appropriately.

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