Turner and Hooch.

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I'm really excited to have a discussion about being black artists and professionals and creator and all our, our shared experiences.

黒人のアーティスト、プロフェッショナル、クリエイター、そして私たちが共有するすべての経験について話し合うことができ、とても嬉しく思っています。

So yeah, let's let's go ahead, let's do it.

そうそう、やってみよう、やってみよう。

So Cara, how did you get started in in enacting?

では、カーラさんはどのようにしてエンタメを始めたのでしょうか？

I always loved it as a child, but my mom was, she was a single parent and I wasn't able to be exposed to her much, she wasn't able to put me in all the classes and do all that stuff.

でも、母は片親で、あまり母に接することができず、すべてのクラスに入れてもらったり、そういうことはできませんでした。

So I didn't really get a chance to really explore it until high school.

だから、高校生のときまで、本格的に探求する機会はなかったんです。

I was really kind of thinking it was a hobby because I didn't really feel brave enough to say I wanted to really be an actor.

本当に役者になりたいと言う勇気もなく、趣味でやっているようなものだと思っていたんです。

I was just like, this is my hobby is something I would do on the side.

趣味は副業でやるものという感じでした。

It was really some teachers that took me under their wing and really gave me the courage to go at it full force and I've been doing it, everything I actually started out doing commercials.

ある先生方が私を受け入れてくださり、本格的に取り組む勇気を与えてくださったので、ずっと続けています。

My mom, uh I was 12 and my mom there was an ad on the radio saying they needed ethnic kids to uh to audition for commercials.

母が......私が12歳のとき、ラジオからコマーシャル用のオーディションを受ける民族の子供が必要だという広告が流れたんです。

So my mom came home one day and she was like, yo I heard this out on the radio, do you wanna do you want to audition for commercials?

ある日、母が帰ってきて、「ラジオで聞いたんだけど、コマーシャルのオーディションを受けてみないか？

And I was like, yeah, sure.

そして、私は、ええ、確かにという感じでした。

I do understand like when you say it does take courage to be able to tell people like, hey, like I wanted to do this as a profession and I don't know if there's like, like, I don't know, like I know like my, both my parents are immigrants too, so it was really hard for them to kind of understand that like, you know, you know, like that was definitely a part of like me, like taking longer to sort of admit to myself and everybody else and I want to do this, you know, as a job and my mom is from Trinidad and my dad's from Grenada and I know that they really wanted to afford their Children the opportunity that they felt that they didn't have.

私はこれを仕事としてやりたかったんです、と言うのは勇気がいることだと思いますが、私の両親も移民なので、それを理解してもらうのは大変でした。私の母はトリニダード出身で、父はグレナダ出身なんですが、彼らは自分たちが持っていないと思っていた機会を子どもたちに与えたいと思っていたんです。

Um and so I think that's also maybe the reason why there was so kind of hesitant about me going into acting, they were just scared and then they wanted they just wanted, you know, security for their kid.

それが、私が女優になることをためらった理由でもあると思うんです。

I think.

と思っています。

Absolutely, have you ever had to change anything about yourself to get a role?

もちろんです。役を得るために自分のどこかを変えなければならなかったことはありますか？

I had to learn how to be myself because there was a difference between how the industry saw me versus how I saw myself, I've definitely been guilty of like trying to be what I felt like I was expected of me and but I don't think that I got very far doing that, it doesn't go well and when I'm like, listen, this is my interpretation of this character, this is what I bring to it and really embrace my authenticity.

業界が私をどう見ているかということと、私が自分をどう見ているかということに違いがあったので、私は自分自身でいる方法を学ばなければなりませんでした。私は確かに、自分が期待されていると感じるものになろうとすることに罪悪感を感じていましたし、でもそんなことをしていると、あまりうまくいきません。

That's when I've been rewarded the most.

それが一番報われた時ですね。

What about you?

あなたはどうですか？

Have you ever felt like you needed to?

必要だと感じたことはありますか？

I mean, you know, for me, like oftentimes like my my dreads has been an issue.

つまり、私の場合、ドレッド髪が問題になることがよくあるんです。

I've definitely not gotten roles because I refused to cut my hair.

髪を切るのを拒んだから役がもらえなかったということは絶対にありません。

They were like, well sorry, like, well I'm not cutting it, you know, But I think that's getting better and sometimes that means saying no to things, you know what I mean, that you're not necessarily comfortable, but it's so funny you bring up hair because that has been a big issue as far as um in a big topic among black actresses as far as like the hair that we bring to a role because of my type when if, if the character was listed as beautiful or classy or elegant, that I couldn't wear my natural curly hair, I was like straightening my hair at first.

でも、だんだん良くなってきていると思うし、時には、必ずしも快適でないことを断ることも必要だと思うのよ。髪の話をするのは面白いわ 黒人の女優の間で大きな話題になっている 役柄にふさわしい髪の問題ね 私の場合、役柄が美しいとか上品とかエレガントと 言われると、自然な巻き髪ができないから 最初は縮毛矯正をしていたのよ。

So that was a part of when I was referencing, you know those times when I was trying to be what people expected of me over time as as it went on, I just realized like why can't my natural hair be considered beautiful and classy and why am I stressing myself out, I can't be my full self and it puts a lot of the focus on the external and just you know, really nitpicking myself and we get so much rejection, we just have to really be vigilant about not adding onto it and rejecting myself before I even, you know, get started.

そのため、人から期待されるような自分になろうとした時期があったのですが、そのうちに、なぜ私の地毛は美しく上品だと思われないのか、なぜ私は自分にストレスを与えているのか、私は完全な自分になれないのだと気づきました。

Yeah, there you go.

ああ、そうだったね。

You have like you never know what they're looking for, right?

相手が何を求めているのかわからないような、そんな感じでしょうか。

And you can never like and it's like it's such an exercise in futility trying to figure out what they want because a lot of times they don't even know what they want until they see it exactly.

そして、彼らが何を望んでいるのかを理解しようとするのは、無駄な努力のように思えます。

And even being rewarded by getting the job with my natural hair then there's the hurdle of the industry needs to catch up to that I don't have anxiety going to a set because there would never be like somebody who knows how to like cut my hair, I'd always have to bring in my own person or like go like on my own time to like my own bar.

そして、地毛で仕事をすることが報われたとしても、私の髪の切り方を知っている人がいないため、撮影現場に行くのが不安にならないように、業界が追いつかなければならないというハードルがあります。

And it's like guys like I shouldn't have to like, like I should be and what's not here is when you see white co stars and they're able to just sit there coffee and get into character and just like they're not and I'm in the mirror with my Home girl on Facetime, help me with my wig because this woman don't know how to do my leave out, right, you know, whatever.

白人のコ・スターが、コーヒーを飲みながらキャラクターになりきって、鏡に向かってFacetimeでホーム・ガールに「ウィッグの手入れを手伝って」と頼んでいるのを見ると、そうではないことがわかります。

So Brandon when it comes to acting, how important is it to have passion for the craft?

では、ブランドンが演技をする上で、情熱を持つことはどのくらい重要なのでしょうか？

I just love acting?

私は演技が好きなだけ？

I like like looking into somebody's eyes and being truthful.

私は、誰かの目を見て、正直に話すのが好きなんです。

Like I like the process of like reading um I like learning about the character and those are the things I think that that prop you up when you would not be working, right, when you're in between jobs, when you're, you know, you've done a billion auditions and nobody's biting what gets you through those times or is if you just actually love acting.

仕事と仕事の間にあるとき、何十億ものオーディションを受けたのに誰も応募してくれないとき、そんなときでも、演技が好きであれば、自分を支えてくれるものだと思います。

Um So yeah, I think it's really important if you had one piece of advice like piggyback on what I just said for young and upcoming actors and actresses of color, what would it be?

そうそう、私が今言ったことに乗っかって、有色人種の若手俳優や女優に何かひとつアドバイスがあるとしたら、それは何でしょう？

Well, I think just like what we've been saying is the number one is to own who you are and to speak up.

そうですね、私たちが今まで言ってきたことと同じで、一番大事なのは、自分らしさを持ち、声を出すことだと思います。

I was so grateful to just get an opportunity that I would just take anything.

チャンスをもらえるだけでありがたく、何でも受け入れていました。

And a lot of times, you know, it's so hard to get these jobs and then you get there and sometimes you get there, you see like, oh there's some of the same microaggressions that happen like at the office job or at my side job waiting tables and like favoritism and bias happens and like, and I'm still experiencing some of that and I'm like and you think that is everything when you're doing your passion, that everything's gonna be roses once you, all I gotta do is start working, but like I know you can be grateful and you can still speak up for yourself, what stories centered around people of color and filming tv do you feel like you aren't seeing, I wouldn't mind seeing sort of more like more like the celebration of of of us and and uh and and like accomplishment type stories instead of diving into sort of the trauma, what about you?

多くの場合、これらの仕事を得るのはとても難しいですし、そこに辿り着くと、オフィスワークや副業でやっているテーブルウェイでも同じようなマイクロアグレッションが起こっていて、えこひいきや偏見が起こっているのを見ることがあります。でも、感謝することはできるし、自分のために発言することもできます。有色人種を中心としたテレビ撮影の話で、見ていないと感じるものは何ですか？

I feel like more people need to tell their stories if that were to happen, we wouldn't get the same types of stories, all the nuances and all the think beautiful things that happen, you know, as a personal color as a black person because the resilience is important, not just the the trauma, the bounce back, we got to see the bounce back, I feel like my job and the reason why I do this with my life is to create a body of work that I feel like I'm telling uplifting and positive stories about the black experience and about that and I specifically am intentional about telling stories that shine a positive light on black women.

もしそうなってしまったら、同じようなタイプの物語、ニュアンス、そして、黒人としての個人的な色彩として起こる美しい出来事を知ることはできないでしょう。私の仕事であり、人生をかけてこれを行う理由は、黒人の経験について、高揚感とポジティブなストーリーを伝える作品群を作ることだと感じています。特に、黒人女性にポジティブな光を当てるストーリーを意図的に伝えるようにしています。

Yeah, I try to just do my part to create something that I can be proud of and then hopefully my family and kids and grandkids will be proud of.

そうですね、自分が誇れるものを作り、できれば家族や子供、孫たちにも誇りに思ってもらえるよう、自分の役割を果たそうと考えています。

Do you think about legacy?

レガシーについて考えていますか？

What do you think about, you know, I never had before until recently, you know I'll go to these cons and I think I was like the second black power and you have like the leader of the rangers and I go to these cons, these little black kids will be like, hey man, like you know, I watched you when I was nine and I didn't, I've never seen like a black, like a black person in a leadership role and then I saw you as a red ranger and so I've always kind of carried that on two.

最近になるまで、コンサートに行くと、私は2番目の黒人パワーで、あなたはレンジャーのリーダーみたいなもので、コンサートに行くと、小さな黒人の子供たちが、ヘイマン、私が9歳の時にあなたを見たけど、黒人がリーダーシップをとるのを見たことがなかった。

It's like I want to be, I want to I want to like open people's eyes up and look like me.

私は、私が人々の目を開いて、私のように見えるようにしたい、という感じです。

Like hey, like I can also exist in those spaces.

その空間に自分も存在できるような、ね。

There's room for me there too.

そこには、私の居場所もあるのです。

That's important for me.

それが私にとって重要なことなのです。

Representation is so important.

代理人はとても重要です。

And then that's a big reason why I was so excited that they wrote the pregnant, my pregnancy and I would hope that it would be inspiring to other black women and other black actresses that your life doesn't have to stop.

それから、妊娠中の私のことを書いてくれたことが大きな理由です。他の黒人女性や他の黒人女優に、「あなたの人生は止まる必要はない」というインスピレーションを与えるものになればいいなと思います。

So I think people need to see those images and say like, whoa, it is possible.

だから、そういう映像を見て、「ああ、これは可能なんだ」と思ってもらわなければならないと思うんです。

Um if he can do it, I can do it, you know, Oh awesome to connect with you today.

彼にできるなら、私にもできるはずです。

I am, I'm so glad that we have this opportunity to share our experiences together.

私は、このような機会に一緒に経験を共有できることをとても嬉しく思っています。

Thank you for joining me.

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