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  • you were in iraq you should have never left  the way the point is is going to be iran well  

  • you know once again uh donald is implying that  he didn't support the invasion of iraq i said  

  • it was a mistake i said that years ago he has  consistently denied what is a very clear fact that  

  • before the invasion he supported it and you knowjust want everybody to go google it google donald  

  • trump iraq and you will see the dozens of sources  which verify that he was for the invasion of iraq  

  • and you can actually hear the audio of  him saying that now why does that matter  

  • well it matters because he has not told the truth  about that position i guess he believes it makes  

  • him look better now to contrast with me becausedid vote for it but what's really important here  

  • is to understand all the interplay mosul is  a sunni city mosul is on the border of syria  

  • and yes we do need to go after baghdadi and just  like we went after bin laden uh while you were  

  • doing celebrity apprentice and we brought him  to justice we need to go after the leadership  

  • but we need to get rid of them get rid of their  fighters their estimated several thousand fighters  

  • in mosul they've been digging underground they've  been prepared to defend it's going to be tough  

  • fighting but i think we can take back mosul and  then we can move on into syria and take back raqqa  

  • this is what we have to do i'm i'm just amazed  that he seems to think that the iraqi government  

  • and our allies and everybody else launched uh  the attack on mosul to help me in this election  

  • but that's how donald thinks you know he always  looking for something chris we don't gain anything  

  • iran is taking over iraq secretary  clinton iran is taking over

  • the one that's in fit you know wikileaks just  actually came out john podesta said some horrible  

  • things about you and boy was he right he said  some beauties and you know bernie sanders  

  • uh he said you have bad judgment you do and if you  think that going into mosul after we let the world  

  • know we're going in and all of the people that we  really wanted the leaders they're all gone if you  

  • think that was good then you do now john podesta  said you have terrible instincts bernie sanders  

  • said you have bad judgment i agree with both well  you should ask bernie sanders who he's supporting  

  • for president and he has said which is pain for  me around the country you are the most dangerous  

  • person to run for president in the modern history  of america i think he's right let's turn to aleppo  

  • mr trump in the last debate you were both asked  about the situation in the syrian city of aleppo  

  • and i want to follow up on that because you  said several things in that debate which  

  • were not true sir you said that aleppo has  basically fallen in fact there in fact there are  

  • it's a catastrophe it is a catastrophe but there  are a quarter have you seen it have you seen it  

  • so have you seen what's happened to elephantsmight finish my question okay so it hasn't fallen  

  • take a look at it well there are a quarter  of a million people still living there and  

  • being slaughtered that's right and they are  being slaughtered because of bad decisions  

  • if i may just finish here and you also said  that isis that syria and russia are busy  

  • fighting isis in fact they have been the ones  who've been bombing and shelling eastern aleppo  

  • uh and they just announced a humanitarian pause  in effect admitting that they have been bombing  

  • and shelling aleppo would you like to clear that  up well aleppo is a disaster it's a humanitarian  

  • nightmare but it has fallen from the state  from any standpoint i mean what do you need  

  • a signed document take a look at aleppo  it is so sad when you see what's happened  

  • and a lot of this is because of hillary clinton  because what's happened is by fighting assad who  

  • turned out to be a lot tougher than she thought  and now she's going to say oh he loves assad  

  • she's he's just much tougher and much smarter than  her and obama and everyone thought he was gone two  

  • years ago three years ago he lined he aligned  with russia he now also aligned with iran who  

  • we made very powerful we gave them 150 billion  dollars back we give them 1.7 billion in cash  

  • i mean cash bundles of cash as big as this  stage we gave them 1.7 billion dollars now  

  • they have lined he has aligned with russia and  with iran they don't want isis but they have other  

  • things because we're backing we're backing rebels  we don't know who the rebels are we're giving them  

  • lots of money lots of everything we don't know who  the rebels are and when and if and it's not going  

  • to happen because you have russia and you have  iran now but if they ever did overthrow assad  

  • you might end up with as bad as assad is and he's  a bad guy but you may very well end up with worse  

  • than assad if she did nothing we'd be in much  better shape and this is what's caused the great  

  • migration where she's taken in tens of thousands  of syrian refugees who probably in many cases  

  • not probably who are definitely in many cases  isis-aligned and we now have them in our country  

  • and where do you see what is going to be  the great trojan horse and where do you see  

  • what happens in the coming years lots of luck  hillary thanks a lot for doing a great job  

  • secretary clinton you have talked about and in  the last debate and again today that you would  

  • impose a no-fly zone to try to protect the people  of aleppo and to stop the killing there president  

  • obama has refused to do that because he fears  it's going to draw us closer or deeper into the  

  • conflict and general joseph dunford the chairman  of the joint chiefs of staff says you impose a  

  • no-fly zone chances are you're going to get into  a war his words with syria and and russia so the  

  • question i have is if you impose a no-fly zone  first of all how do you respond to their concerns  

  • secondly if you impose a no-fly zone and a russian  plane violates that does president clinton shoot  

  • that plane down well chris first of all i thinkno-fly zone could save lives and could hasten the  

  • end of the conflict i am well aware of the really  legitimate concerns that you have expressed from  

  • both the president and the general this would  not be done just on the first day this would  

  • take a lot of negotiation it would also take  making it clear to the russians and the syrians  

  • that our purpose here was to provide safe zones  on the ground we've had millions of people leave  

  • syria and those millions of people uh inside syria  who've been dislocated so i think we could strike  

  • a deal and make it very clear to the russians  and the syrians that this was something that we  

  • believe was in the best interests of the people  on the ground in syria it would help us with our  

  • fight against isis but i want to respond to what  donald said about refugees he's made these claims  

  • repeatedly i am not going to let anyone into  this country who is not vetted who we do not  

  • have confidence in but i am not going to slam  the door on women and children i that picture  

  • of that little four-year-old boy in aleppo with  the blood coming down his face while he sat in  

  • an ambulance is haunting and so we are going to do  very careful thorough vetting that does not solve  

  • our internal challenges with isis and our need to  stop radicalization to work with american muslim  

  • communities who are on the front lines to identify  and prevent attacks in fact the killer of the  

  • dozens of people at the nightclub in orlando the  pulse nightclub was born in queens the same place  

  • donald was born so let's be clear about what the  threat is and how we are best going to be able  

  • to meet it and yes some of that threat emanates  from over in syria and iraq and we've got to keep  

  • fighting and i will defeat isis and some of it is  we have to up our game and be much smarter here  

  • i want to get into our final segment but i just  have to it's so ridiculous what you she will  

  • defeat isis we should have never let isis happen  in the first place and right now they're in 32  

  • countries wait one second they had aces fire three  weeks ago a ceasefire united states russia syria  

  • and during the ceasefire russia took over  vast swatches of land and then they said we  

  • don't want the ceasefire anymore we are  so outplayed on missiles on ceasefires  

  • they are outplayed now she wasn't there  i assume she had nothing to do with it  

  • but our country is so outplayed by putin  and assad and by the way and by iran  

  • nobody can believe how stupid our leadership is  mr trump secretary clinton no we need to move  

  • on to our final segment and that is the national  debt which has not been discussed until tonight  

  • our national debt is the share of the  economy our gdp is now 77 that's the highest  

  • since just after world war ii but the nonpartisan  committee for a responsible federal budget says  

  • secretary clinton under your plan debt would  rise to 86 percent of gdp over the next 10 years  

  • mr trump under your plan they say it would  rise to 105 of gdp over the next 10 years  

  • question is why are both of you ignoring this  problem mr trump you go first well i say they're  

  • wrong because i'm going to create tremendous jobs  and we're bringing gdp from really one percent  

  • which is what it is now and if she got in it'll  be less than zero but we're bringing it from one  

  • percent up to four percent and i actually think we  can go higher than four percent i think you can go  

  • to five or six percent and if we do you don't  have to bother asking your question because we  

  • have a tremendous machine we will have created  a trend tremendous economic machine once again  

  • to do that we're taking back jobs we're not going  to let our companies be rated by other countries  

  • where we lose all our jobs we don't make our  product anymore it's very sad but i'm going  

  • to create a the kind of a country that we were  from the standpoint of industry we used to be  

  • there we've given it up we've become very very  sloppy we've had people that are political hacks  

  • making the biggest deals in the world bigger than  companies you take these big companies these trade  

  • deals are far bigger than these companies and yet  we don't use our great leaders many of whom back  

  • me and many of whom back hillary i must say but  we don't use those people those are the people  

  • these are the greatest negotiators in the world  we have the greatest business people in the world  

  • we have to use them to negotiate our trade  deals we use political hacks we use people  

  • that get the position because they gave they  made a campaign contribution and they're dealing  

  • with china and people that are very much smarter  than they are so we have to use our great people  

  • but that being said we will create an economic  machine the likes of which we haven't seen  

  • in many decades and people chris will again go  back to work and they'll make a lot of money  

  • and we'll have companies that will grow and  expand and start from new secretary clinton well  

  • first when i when i hear donald talk like that  and know that his slogan is make america great  

  • again i wonder when he thought america was great  uh and before he rushes and says you know before  

  • you and president obama were there i think  it's important to recognize that he has been  

  • criticizing um our government for decades  you know back in 1987 he took out a 100  

  • 000 ad in the new york times during the  time when president reagan was president  

  • and basically said exactly what he just said  now that we were the laughing stock of the world  

  • he was criticizing president reagan this is the  way donald thinks about himself puts himself  

  • into you know the middle and says you know i alone  can fix it as he said on the convention stage  

  • but if you look at the debt which is the issue  you asked about chris i pay for everything i'm  

  • proposing i do not add a penny to the national  debt i take that very seriously because i do  

  • think it's one of the issues we've got to come to  grips with so when i talk about how we're going to  

  • pay for education how we're going to invest in  infrastructure how we're going to get the cost  

  • of prescription drugs down and a lot of the other  issues that people talk to me about all the time  

  • i've made it very clear we are going where the  money is we are going to ask the wealthy and  

  • corporations to pay their fair share and there is  no evidence whatsoever that that will slow down  

  • or diminish our growth in fact i think just the  opposite we'll have what economists call middle  

  • out growth we've got to get back to rebuilding  the middle class the families of america  

  • that's where growth will come from that's why  i want to invest in you i want to invest in  

  • your family and i think that's the smartest way  to grow the economy to make the economy fairer  

  • and we just have a big disagreement about this  it may be because of our experiences you know  

  • he started off with his dad as a millionairestarted off with my dad he's a small businessman  

  • we've heard this before i think it's you know it's  a difference that affects how we see the world and  

  • what we want to do with the economy time thank  you hillary could i just respond well not well no  

  • because i didn't agree with ronald reagan  very strongly on trade i disagreed with him  

  • we should have been much tougher on trade  even then i've been waiting for years  

  • nobody does it right and frankly now  we're going to do it right all right i  

  • the one last area i want to get into with you in  this debate is the fact that the biggest driver  

  • of our debt is entitlements which is 60 of all  federal spending now the committee for federal  

  • uh responsible federal budget has looked at  both of your plans and they say neither of you  

  • has a a serious plan that is going to solve the  fact that that medicare is going to run out of  

  • money in the 2020s social security is going to  run out of money in the 2030s and at that time  

  • recipients are going to take huge cuts in their  benefits so in effect the final question i want  

  • to ask you in this regard is and let me start with  you mr trump would president trump make a deal to  

  • save medicare and social security that included  both tax increases and benefit cuts in effect  

  • a grand bargain on entitlements i'm cutting taxes  we're going to grow the economy it's going to grow  

  • at a record rate but that's not going to help  entitlement it's going to totally help you and  

  • one thing we have to do repeal and replace the  disaster known as obamacare it's destroying our  

  • country it's destroying our businesses our small  business and our big businesses we have to repeal  

  • and replace obamacare you take a look at the kind  of numbers that that will cost us in the year 17  

  • it is a disaster if we don't repeal and replace  now it's probably going to die of its own weight  

  • but obamacare has to go it's the premiums are  going up 60 70 80 percent next year they're going  

  • to go up over a hundred percent and i'm really  glad that the premiums have started at least the  

  • people see what's happening because she wants to  keep obamacare and she wants to make it even worse  

  • and it can't get any worse bad health care  at the most expensive price we have to repeal  

  • and replace obamacare and secretary clinton  same question because at this point social  

  • security and medicare are going to run out  the trust funds are going to run out of money  

  • will you as president entertain will you consider  a a grand bargain a deal that includes both tax  

  • increases and benefit cuts to try to save both  programs well chris i am on record as saying that  

  • we need to put more money in the social security  trust fund that's part of my commitment to raise  

  • taxes on the wealthy my social security payroll  contribution will go up as will donald's assuming  

  • he can't figure out how to get out of it uh but  what we want to do is to replenish the success  

  • trust fund by making sure that we have  sufficient resources and that will come from  

  • either raising the cap and or finding other  ways to get more money into it i will not cut  

  • benefits i want to enhance benefits for low-income  workers and for women who have been disadvantaged  

  • by the current social security system but what  donald is proposing with these massive tax cuts  

  • will result in a 20 trillion dollar  additional national debt that will have dire  

  • consequences for social security and medicare  and i'll say something about the affordable  

  • care act which he wants to repeal the affordable  care act extended the solvency of the medicare  

  • trust fund so if he repeals it our medicare  problem gets worse what we need to do is go ahead  

  • and disagree long-term health care drivers we've  got to get costs down increase value emphasize  

  • wellness i have a plan for doing that and i think  that we will be able to get entitlement spending  

  • under control by with more resources and  smarter decisions this is the final time  

  • probably to both of your delight that you're  going to be on stage together in this campaign  

  • i would like to end it on a positive note you  had not agreed to uh closing statements but it  

  • seems to me in a funny way that might make it more  interesting because you haven't prepared closing  

  • statements so i'd like you each to take it we're  going to put a clock up a minute as the final  

  • question and the final debate to tell the american  people why they should elect you to be the next  

  • president this is another new mini segment  secretary clinton it's your turn to go first  

  • well i would like to say to everyone watching  tonight that i'm reaching out to all americans  

  • democrats republicans and independents because  we need everybody to help make our country  

  • what it should be to grow the economy to make it  fairer to make it work for everyone we need your  

  • talents your skills your commitment your energy  your ambition you know i've been privileged to  

  • see the presidency up close and i know the awesome  responsibility of protecting our country and the  

  • incredible opportunity of working to try to  make life better for all of you i have made  

  • the cause of children and families really  my life's work that's what my mission will  

  • be in the presidency i will stand up for  families against powerful interests against  

  • corporations i will do everything that i can to  make sure that you have good jobs with rising  

  • incomes that your kids have good educations from  preschool through college i hope you will give  

  • me a chance to serve as your president secretary  clinton thank you mr trump she's raising the money  

  • from the people she wants to control it doesn't  work that way but when i started this campaign i  

  • started it very strongly it's called make america  great again we're going to make america great we  

  • have a depleted military it has to be helped has  to be fixed we have the greatest people on earth  

  • in our military we don't take care of our veterans  we take care of illegal immigrants people that  

  • come into the country illegally better than  we take care of our vets that can't happen our  

  • policemen and women are disrespected we need law  and order but we need justice too our inner cities  

  • are a disaster you get shot walking to the store  they have no education they have no jobs i will  

  • do more for african-americans and latinos than she  can ever do in 10 lifetimes all she's done is talk  

  • to the african-americans and to the latinos but  they get the vote and then they come back they  

  • say we'll see you in four years we are going to  make america strong again and we are going to  

  • make america great again and it has to start  now we cannot take four more years of barack  

  • obama and that's what you get when you get her  thank you both secretary clinton hold on just  

  • a moment folks secretary clinton mr trump i want  to thank you both for participating in all three  

  • of these debates that brings to an end this year's  debate sponsored by the commission on presidential  

  • debates we want to thank the university of  nevada las vegas and its students for having us  

  • now the decision is up to you while millions  have already voted election day november 8th  

  • is just 20 days away one thing everyone here  can agree on we hope you will go vote it is  

  • one of the honors and obligations of living  in this great country thank you and good night

  • guys

  • okay

you were in iraq you should have never left  the way the point is is going to be iran well  

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